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WTF-- was she taking it during the DAY?!!!!  That's got to be it, and that's just insane! 

But very interesting that she herself is invisible while in trance.   That' jibes with what I know about intentionality and focus.  The more present you are and the more aware, the more people are aware of you.  That's a generalization, but it seems to hold true.

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Lono, I don't know how she was taking it, she belongs to that Eckankaar soul travel group, so I think that she is dissociative anyway, and so anything will add to that is how I reckon.

Lyra,
I am reading your book and I think that it is quite good. I am especially fascinated by your relationship with your narcissistic mother because I have just had my own experiences with what I refer to as toxic narcissism, the dialogue I related about the Ambien was part of it. Narcissism seems to be like a psychic plague that is transmitted through hypnosis and trance inducing states of being. One really strong narcissist will permeate an entire group or family. A really strong narcissist is usually being controlled by dark entities or hyperdimensionals and such- do you think?
Also, your brother Joe is rendered really vividly and has captured my curiousity. He is the classic self-destructive sociopath in some ways, but of course has all the metaphysical weirdness surrounding him to boot. This is also part of my own wonderings on the way stuff works - why do sociopaths and psychopaths often have so much charisma and that false sense of "power" that is so magnetic and that gets others to do things for them? Is it the stuff working through them that is so affective? It seems like for some that dark energy source is self-consuming, but for others it seems to be a never-ending power supply. Thank you for your book and the website.-lala

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lala wrote:

This is also part of my own wonderings on the way stuff works - why do sociopaths and psychopaths often have so much charisma and that false sense of "power" that is so magnetic and that gets others to do things for them? Is it the stuff working through them that is so affective? It seems like for some that dark energy source is self-consuming, but for others it seems to be a never-ending power supply. Thank you for your book and the website.-lala

I once read an excellent book that goes in-depth into this.  It's called, "Sex, Power, Pleasure....How to Spiritually Emerge Without Going Nuts."  The author had dealings with a creepy, ugly little toad of a  man who was a sociopath... and had women throwing themselves at him left and right.  He broke their spirits and their hearts as a hobby.  She talks about how the sociopath has no true feelings, but emotes them in spades, and reflects them back to the receiver.  I don't know how on target she was with that, but it's interesting food for thought.

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A thread on sociopaths could be interesting. I myself had dealings with a sociopath about a year ago. He almost destroyed me. Since then I have learned a lot about them and what causes their behavior. Lono -what you said about how they reflect emotions is right on. The sociopath I knew fed off of my anxiety, fear and sadness; he was an avid psychic vampire as well. It seems these people are increasing in the world for some reason.

My People Were Fair And Had Sky In Their Hair...But Now They're Content To Wear Stars On Their Brows

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Shoogie wrote:

A thread on sociopaths could be interesting. I myself had dealings with a sociopath about a year ago. He almost destroyed me. Since then I have learned a lot about them and what causes their behavior. Lono -what you said about how they reflect emotions is right on. The sociopath I knew fed off of my anxiety, fear and sadness; he was an avid psychic vampire as well. It seems these people are increasing in the world for some reason.

This fits in VERY well with what that author said.  She pointed out that many sociopaths target grieving women because they were releasing energy so quickly!  Good way for a vampire to get a quick fix.

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Lono wrote:

She talks about how the sociopath has no true feelings, but emotes them in spades, and reflects them back to the receiver.  I don't know how on target she was with that, but it's interesting food for thought.

Shoogie wrote:

The sociopath I knew fed off of my anxiety, fear and sadness; he was an avid psychic vampire as well. It seems these people are increasing in the world for some reason.

Yes to both, I have had similar experiences, the socios keep getting more and more clever and seem all liberal and eco-minded, etc. etc. Thing is, I had many negative synchronicities with the last one including finding an article in Psychology Today about how extreme narcissism can be a really positive energy, and also how you don't need to have low self-esteem to by enraptured by them, they put out such strong self-confidence that it is attractive to everyone (I now see this as bullshit), also at the same time I found at the library by "accident" and took out the book "Loving the Self-Absorbed" (Question when you snap out of hypnosis: "Why would you want to?") which is a psychology book that talks all about making a marriage or relationship work with an extreme and destructive narcissist ("Don't take anything they say personally.") This is I guess, materialistic psychology justifying the culture of sociopathology as if it is normal. It's kind of like Kinsey (who is now a pop culture hero) coming up with the "research" statistics that 95% of all men are sexually deviant and then the porn culture rising up to meet that "statistic." It's manufactured psychology that creates the conditions for all of this increasing insanity. Appreciate the info-lala

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lala wrote:

Lyra,
I am reading your book and I think that it is quite good. I am especially fascinated by your relationship with your narcissistic mother because I have just had my own experiences with what I refer to as toxic narcissism, the dialogue I related about the Ambien was part of it. Narcissism seems to be like a psychic plague that is transmitted through hypnosis and trance inducing states of being. One really strong narcissist will permeate an entire group or family. A really strong narcissist is usually being controlled by dark entities or hyperdimensionals and such- do you think?
Also, your brother Joe is rendered really vividly and has captured my curiousity. He is the classic self-destructive sociopath in some ways, but of course has all the metaphysical weirdness surrounding him to boot. This is also part of my own wonderings on the way stuff works - why do sociopaths and psychopaths often have so much charisma and that false sense of "power" that is so magnetic and that gets others to do things for them? Is it the stuff working through them that is so affective? It seems like for some that dark energy source is self-consuming, but for others it seems to be a never-ending power supply. Thank you for your book and the website.-lala

I think you're probably the first person who accurately "got" what I was portraying....it's kind of amazing actually.  The whole thing about these charismatic sociopaths getting people to do things for them....the self destructive nature of them....the false sense of magnetic "power" they wield......(I take it you must have read "the vortex" which further elaborates on his situation) and then the strong narcissists (or whatever their deal is) permeating a family....you got it, all of it, and you got it without me even telling the entire story.  Pretty cool.  cool


Seeking The Truth wrote:

....Kudos to you!!

Thanks.  smile

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Lyra wrote:

I take it you must have read "the vortex" which further elaborates on his situation

Yes, I went directly to the vortex on your site when you mentioned it in the book, (I am doing a lot of backreading of things that people mention on these threads) I read parts of it. Could be that people like your brother, becasue they have so many open portals in their astral and etheric fields and tears and so forth, open up doors like that wherever they land. This story is good reading and instructional in oh so many ways. The description and the emotion is what lets the story come in and really be felt: there are many ways to be a paranormal researcher, and this type of writing I feel is one of them. I am coming to the conclusion that charisma is really a low-level emotional charge and almost always related to the lower fourth dimensional realms. The stuff comes through in the writing very strongly, keep writing, your voice is very strong in the style you've chosen.

Lono wrote:

This fits in VERY well with what that author said.  She pointed out that many sociopaths target grieving women because they were releasing energy so quickly!  Good way for a vampire to get a quick fix.

This is why sleazy ministers and pastoral counsellors are so insidious. They are basically church sanctioned sociopaths who feed on the vulnerable, widows and people in crisis and such. When someone tells me that they are going to school for some sort of ministry counselling degree or whatever my red flag immediately goes up.
-lala

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Thanks for mentioning "The Vortex." Hadn't got around to reading it yet, though I meant to after finishing Phantoms.
Fills in alot of...spaces!:lol: