the truth behind Montalk (Page 3 of 4)

Hmmm....

Looking at these two comments, it seemed to me that you were saying that I was ranting against Steiner, and therefore trying to show me how Steiner has validity and how I should check it out and "take a bit of time to read" it before ranting about him, when in fact my comment was merely about Druid citing Steiner. 

That's your interpretation, anyway.   I speak my mind in a clear way...it's not something a lot of people do.  If I disagree I say it, and I say why.  And it gets mistaken a lot of times for being mad or upset.  I already had to correct somebody recently about their misperception that I was upset when I totally wasn't.  And yup, I do have my rants...but so don't other NR posters. (And I love them for it, even if I don't always agree with their opinions or what they're saying.)  So, nothing unique there.  The vibe of a lot of NR posters is quite flat and lacks life force/vital energy.   With some posters it feels as if it's taking everything out of them just to post, that's how drained and flat and depressed their words sound. (which is again, why I love those (sane!) fiesty NR posters who speak their minds clearly with energy behind the words, not afraid to debate or rant or speak their opinions.)   But just like depression and lack of vital energy shouldn't be taken for being calm, strong energetic posts shouldn't be taken for "always" flying off the handle.  I got annoyed at somebody on NR last year and told them to f*ck off...now to me, THAT'S something. 

Now, back to our regularly scheduled confusion........

The hardest thing about internet conversation is that it is very difficult do discern tone.  Things like sarcasm are usually a complete waste unless painfully obvious (and even then, some places on the internet are so full of doofuses you can't be sure).  It is difficult to tell the difference between and angry rant and forceful expression without hearing the person's voice.

What a nightmare, being stuck in a virtual dead end loop... 
Reminds me of my worst LSD badtrip ever: hearing in loop the end of the song 'God save the queen'.
NO FUTURE! NO FUTURE! NO FUTURE FOR YOU!
NO FUTURE! NO FUTURE! NO FUTURE FOR ME!

Compassionate thoughts to Feritciva.

Transcix,
I don't think that there is anything that you are saying or quoting or responding to that indicates that the Montalk site is conveying non-truths. Most of your revelations involve using different words for the same concepts that are used on the site, you have a slightly different way of noting how OPs or whatever operate in this dimension, but you are still involved in the same hypothesis. So basically, you cannot refute the matrix theory using the matrix theory, wherever it and its componants originate from. See, Transcix, that is the way it works, you have to develop your own theory to refute a theory. Since the writings by Tom on this site are based on his own experiential research and builds on the work of others, it is obvious that he has done a lot of soul investigation on his own time, plus he knows how to organize thoughts into writing. That counts. What he has written and organized plus providing the forum is of value and service to people exploring hyperdimensional reality. However, because he is honing his critical thinking skills, your posts are useful to him, you are food (and I mean that literally because I do read the site) for thought.

In terms of Druid,,
Having hung out and studied with serious Anthroposophists who were very formal, Eurocentric and hierarchacal, I can say that I truly believe that Druid has taken the wisdom of Steiner and combined it with some very deep inner work and experimentation. Things on this site are way off of the Steiner chart, so a rigid Anthro. would never bother with it.  I would hate for him to be stifled in any way because I have learned so much from him (and others on this site). For instance, I have always wondered what he thought of the 2012 date and I saw it posted on this thread. People like Steiner, and Tom on Montalk, come through into these dimensions with some great gifts to share about the nature of perception and the realities that we expereince here. They are also put into situations where they develop both analytical and intuitive skills and moreover, have the ability to write and the means to publish so that they can get these teachings (and they are in my opinion, teachings) out to the public. Only someone whose basic amnesia has somewhat worn off is going to seek out, find and participate in these dialogues.-lala

If you say so.   Whatever works for you.

Ok, I'm just playing.  You guys rock and this is a great thread.  "The truth behind Montalk" is he's a cool guy.  The rest of it is up to personal interpretation. 

Karma only exists if you want it to.  If you want rid of the karma wheel then just forgive yourself and everyone else.  Done.

Steiner, never read him except what's been posted on here.  Can't form an accurate opinion from that and have no inclination to read his stuff.

OP's, who cares.  If there are energy vampires of any type they can only suck your energy if you allow it.  If you are unaware that you are allowing it, you are still allowing it.  If they don't have an "I" or a soul or what not then it would seem like the best thing is to attempt to show them the fruits of developing one instead of just labelling them and trying to avoid them.

Lyra, you are so right about a non-micromanaging higher self.  Micromanaging would actually be inefficient the way I see it.  So many more lessons can be learned by letting things happen in a free flow manner and then learning from all aspects of those situations.

And my appearance of flat energy is because I'm an only child and I don't like to share. 

When I said that the higher self 'planned' everything that happened and will happen to us, I didn't mean that in a fatalistic sense, as if we didn't have free will or freedom.

For sure, my higher self may not have planned that I am going to eat froot loops tomorrow morning, that's just insignificant.

I talk about the significant things in our lives. They all have a karmic basis. Our actions/talk/thoughts (karma measn action in sanskrit, but action in a wide sense), determines our fate, destiny.

This is our base, foundation. It determines our blood relationships such as family, genetics, heredity, and all relationships before the adult age.

Because of our attitudes, we attract or repell certain individuals.

On the other hand, there is free will. But i canot choose whether or not my karma will come back to me. there is not choice here. it happens, whether you want it or not. It's not true that karma comes back to you only if you believe it. Sheer nonsense.

What I can choose is my reaction towards these fateful events that come back to me: will I choose to become bitter or caring and forgiving? to be an egoist or altruist?

The hard things that hit us in live are karmically determined. Period. No choice involved there.

It is too simplistic to say there is "only freewill and no fate". as simplistic to say that "all is fate and there is no fre wiil nor freedom". I hope we can forget about these stupid points of view, the sooner the better.