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Re: John Lash: Countdown To 2012

Thanks for the spectacular posts once again Siri.
What is 2012?

Just a bunch of numbers...

Siri Arc wrote:

2012 isn’t a ‘date’

IT’s a Concept

And That Concept Has Everything To Do With:

The Ingression Of Novelty

Yeah, well articulated.  I'm feeling that this happens by being, which is simultaneous with self creation, together transforming the self/territory within the map/matrix?  If that makes sense. big_smile

Lately I've been contemplating just what is going on, kind of putting all the ideas and concepts into a pot and stirring them together to see what new recipes will arise.  In all it's beauty the world seems sick and polluted... the magic still remins but there is no doubt that this game we're playing has to end, and regardless of dates, change is growing.  There maybe a war in heaven, but there is also the war within.  And the only recipe is the present moment. 

Then the rememebering happens and the magic of being is as clear as still water.

We seem destined to live in fear
And some that would say Armageddon is near
But where there's a life while there's hope
That man won't self destruct

Why can't we treat our fellow men
With more respect and a shake of their hands
But anger and loathing is rife
The death on all sides is becoming a way of life

We live in an uncertain world
Fear understanding and ignorance is leading to death
Only the corpses are left
For vultures that prey on their bones

But some are just not wanting peace
Their whole life is death and misery
The only thing that they know
Fight fire with fire life is cheap

But if they do stop to think
That man is teetering right on the brink
But do you think that they care
They benefit from death and pain and despair

#5. Each of us has a divine counterpart unfallen who can reach a hand down to us to awaken us. This other personality is the authentic waking self; the one we have now is asleep and minor. We are in fact asleep, and in the hands of a dangerous magician disguised as a good god, the deranged creator deity. The bleakness, the evil and pain in this world, the fact that it is a deterministic prison controlled by the demented creator causes us willingly to split with the reality principle early in life, and so to speak willingly fall asleep in delusion.

Related too these lyrics...

They rule the land
They're in command
They all the strings in hand
They are invisible
Out of sight
They've designed
A secret place
To play their games
A world, they're in control
Divine law
Divine law
Be aware
Now
Mind your steps
We are uninvited guests,
They may find and catch us
Don't forget
Do what I say
Now connect
Don't even ask
Until we're out of it
Everything's at highest stake
Come take a look
We are in
Take a breath
But don't forget
It isn't real
It isn't true
An illusion
Nothing more

"Beyond the stars a new world awaits me now" - Wintersun

Re: John Lash: Countdown To 2012

http://forum.noblerealms.org/img/avatars/499.gif

Primo Correspondence !!!


Yonder,

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic. … 233#p51233

#13

http://forum.noblerealms.org/img/avatars/2.jpg shows a pic of Gregg Braden’s new book, ‘The Divine Matrix’


[This reference is posted Here for the Words and Concepts]:



From:

http://www.amazon.com/Divine-Matrix-Bri … mp;s=books

Book Description
Between 1993 and 2000, a series of groundbreaking experiments revealed dramatic evidence of a web of energy that connects everything in our lives and our world–the Divine Matrix. From the healing of our bodies, to the success of our careers, relationships, and the peace between nations, this new evidence demonstrates that we each hold the power to speak directly to the force that links all of creation. What would it mean to discover that the power to create joy, to heal suffering, and bring peace to nations lives inside of you? How differently would you live if you knew how to use this power each day of your life? Join Gregg Braden on this extraordinary journey bridging science, spirituality and miracles through the language of The Divine Matrix.

Reviewer: HB
Gregg Braden in his newest and to date finest work, The Divine Matrix, has offered a concise, scholarly, scientific, and visionary perspective on who we are, our undeniable connection to everything, and most importantly our powerful role in our present lives and thus the future of our existence.

Reviewer: D J Hancock
This latest text by him is presented in three parts:

Part I, ‘Discovering the Divine Matrix: The Mystery That Connects All Things,’
Part II, ‘The Bridge Between Imagination and Reality: How the Divine Matrix Works,’
Part III, ‘Messages from the Divine Matrix: Living, Loving, and Healing in Quantum Awareness

Reviewer: Barbara Rose
Here I wanted to share some quotes directly from this PHENOMENAL book for you:

‘The key is that the energy connecting everything in the universe is also a part of what it connects!’

‘There are more attributes that set the Divine Matrix apart from any other energy of its kind. First, it can be described as being everywhere all the time...it already exists. Unlike a broadcast from a TV or radio station that has to be created into one place before being sent and received somewhere else, this field seems to be everywhere already.’

‘The bottom line of what this experiment demonstrates is that the behavior of the particles when the experiment begins appears to be determined entirely by things that don't even happen until the experiment is finished. In other words, the present has the power to change what's already occurred in the past. And this is the so-called quantum-eraser effect: Things that happen after the fact can change ("erase") the way the particles behave at an earlier point in time.’

‘The common denominator of the investigations...is twofold:
1. They show us that we're a part of the Divine Matrix
2. They demonstrate that human emotion (beliefs, expectations, and feelings) are the language that the Divine Matrix recognizes.’

‘...For all intents and purposes, the operating system of a computer is fixed and doesn't change. In other words, it ‘is’ what it is. When we want to see our computer do something different, we don't change the operating system - WE CHANGE THE COMMANDS THAT GO INTO IT. (My caps, italics in the book.) The reason why this is important is that consciousness appears to work precisely the same way.’

And, From The Realm Of Large Grok,

Relayed Here:

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic. … 06&p=2   #s27, 29

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic. … 06&p=3

#31

http://forum.noblerealms.org/img/avatars/1038.gif Relates:

And the love was written in the sky!!!!!!!

The Love was written in the sky!!!!!!   Certainly looked good to me.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/siriarc/my.jpg

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Picking up on SiriArc, I note that JLL (whom I happen to know rather intimately!) likes to cite Octavio Paz (The Bow and the Lyre): "The past is a future that issues in the present." This and other phrases in Paz are totally relevant to our transtemporal hovering position relative to the defined moment, 2012.

Great to bring in the ingression of novelty idea. Lash has been going on about this madly for a good many years. More recently, he has phrased it in the Gnostic idiom of the monogenes, the singularity from the Pleroma that is encoded in human potential. Novelty is an essential element in the Sophia myth. There is a lot on this notion in the new book.  What he has to say specifically about novelty in the context of 2012 I can ´t guess, but I sense it's coming soon, with Xolotl lurking in the shadows.

"The myth contains human life in its totality: by means of rhythm it brings immediacy to an archetypal past, a past that is potentially a future ready to be reincarnated in the present." Paz again.

Cruisin ´in 5th, RR

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Ramunda Roe

Great to bring in the ingression of novelty idea. Lash has been going on about this madly for a good many years. More recently, he has phrased it in the Gnostic idiom of the monogenes, the singularity from the Pleroma that is encoded in human potential. Novelty is an essential element in the Sophia myth. There is a lot on this notion in the new book.

R R   (9 9) ,

Any Details YOU Could Bring Forth Would Be Deeply Appreciated.

Haven’t Read The Book Yet But Have Scoured MetaHistory For The Past Year And A Half  >>>>>>>To Current.......Xolotl (‘In Progress’).....


The myth contains human life in its totality: by means of rhythm it brings immediacy to an archetypal past, a past that is potentially a future ready to be reincarnated in the present.   -Paz-

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Sure, it ´s fairly elementary: monogenes, which Lash translates as "singularity," is the Gnostic term for the discrete potential of novelty encoded into the Anthropos, the human genome. (Scholars translate it "only-begotten" and spin a paternal avatar trip around it, but Lash claims that Gnostic seers saw through this scam, which is the basis of salvationist religion, the plague that grips our humble planet.)

The Sophia myth presents a version of directed panspermia in which the human species is seeded in various worlds - i.e., the Anthropos is not just US but many human strains that may arise in possible worlds. What ´s unique about our world, this planet, is that Sophia morphed into it. She became the planetary body we inhabit. For the Gnostics, she is the Aeon, goddess, divinity, whatever you like, who dreamed our world before it was created. So, the concept of novelty in Gnostic terms is intimately linked to the emanationist physics of Dreaming - as in the aboriginal Dreamtime, etc. Lash says that the Gnostic Aeons or cosmic divinities are identical to the Dreamtime ancestors of the Australian aborigines. He rates the Gnostic visionary scenario as the outgrowth of trained indigenous shamanism, a homegrown planetary myth.   

To get how novelty works, that is, how it is manifesting through human expressions - well, that's another huge glowing crumb of mythopoesis. Lash sets it out rather gingerly - like he doesn't want to lay down a riff that would appear to predetermine the process of discovery... Basically, though, he says that we bring forth the novelty that suits our species in expressions that are compatible with Sophia ´s dreaming, the imagination of the earth. Due to our  potential for novelty, we have a lot of evolutionary slack, but a lot of what we invent and innovate is deviant (so the Gnostics said), tending away from the optimal expressions we can achieve in coevolution with Gaia.

That ´s the key term, I guess: coevolution. Lash is saying that Gnostics detected the ingress of novelty, not just by unusual things that happen in society, fascinating gimmicks and ideas introduced in the course of history, but in the imaginative power we apply to coevolve with Gaia-Sophia (Lash's compound term for the goddess Sophia in her planetary body). Plastic teeth are a novelty, a feat of human innovation. But does such a novelty express how the human gift for novelty is aligned with the divine intelligence of nature, or it is just a way we mess around with nature?

Anyway, not to be tedious... This is the gist of it, the core concept. In his book and on site, Lash is just elaborating on this essential nexus: human novelty linked to, and perhaps reciprocating,  the divine intelligence of the planet. Of course, you have to believe, or at least consider, that the planet is intelligent, alive, even conscious in some way, a divine creature with its own mind and emotions, in order to entertain the Gnostic interpretation. We're talking planetary animism here. Interactive planetary animism.

Cruisin' in 5th, RR

Re: John Lash: Countdown To 2012

Ramunda Roe

Thanks For The Primo Response !!!


In his book and on site, Lash is just elaborating on this essential nexus: human novelty linked to, and perhaps reciprocating,  the divine intelligence of the planet.

Zact - A - Mundo

From This Zone, That’s The Tie-IN With All The Various Posts At N R:

That WE Have A Direct Correspondence With:

The High Magician, So Phi A


Because:

The Pleroma Cares

The Pleroma Knew

The Pleroma Designed

The Pleroma Sent


Maybe Like This:

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=4301


And Factored Deeply By This:

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic. … 34&p=2   #17

Deep Journeys of Discovery



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So,

Novelty: The Potential For Something Currently unDreamed, unImagined, unRe-Membered.......

Mentioned along with Blood Music in that Favorite Thread:

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/siriarc/better-angels_01a.jpg

Part of a Trilogy:

*Lightpaths (1997)

*Standing Wave (1998)

*Better Angels (1999)


[ Also consider: Empty Cities of the Full Moon (2001) ]


From:

http://www.amazon.com/Better-Angels-How … mp;s=books

From Kirkus Reviews

By 2014, a religion-obsessed government is repressing scientific endeavor. Some years previously, however, Jacinta Larkin discovered a South American Neanderthal population whose religion was based on ingesting a fungus that produced cosmic mental connections and eventually would transport them through a wormhole to meet the alien Allesseh. (When an Allesseh ship crashed on Earth millions of years ago, they left the fungus in case intelligence someday evolved.) Jacinta's skeptical brother Paul watches in disbelief as Jacinta and friends vanish into space. Eventually, he sells the fungus to Dr. Vang, who hopes to develop mind/machine linkages of such information density that a transcendental singularity will open. Others take the fungus drug with varying degrees of enlightenment. Meanwhile, researcher Lydia Farbro discovers an alien artifact in a California tar pit. Extraordinarily rich in ideas.


Locus Magazine, December 1999, p.19

Howard V. Hendrix is one of those abundantly talented writers, and BETTER ANGELS, a prequel to his two earlier books, LIGHTPATHS and STANDING WAVE, defies genre boundaries with great panache. . . . Matter and antimatter, Apollonian and Dionysian, Christ and Antichrist, Logos and Chaos -- all these opposites will come into play by the end of what is also a splendid adventure novel, equally at home in big-time transcendence and a very human scale where everyone does matter . . . Like the sciences themselves, SF and the sense of wonder have grown increasingly sophisticated over the years. Though purists may decry his refusal to stay within the boundaries of genre, Howard V. Hendrix can be claimed as one of our very best.


Reviewe: David Albert

Once again, Dr. Hendrix weaves technology and metaphysics into a spectacular tale of people trying to understand the world around them, and their ultimate confrontation with a Universal Consciousness that refuses to understand itself -- until its options run out. From the corporate and governmental greed and lust for power at the heart of the evil Tetragrammaton project to the (hopefully fictitious) rise and fall of the Christian States of America, we see how the events of the characters lives (and by implication, our own) are intertwined with cosmic destiny. Can the unvierse ever truly become conscious? Yes, but even after becoming fully conscious ourselves, there is yet one more demon to fight. The interplay of action and ideas in that final battle, so spectrally protrayed in the last chapter, challenges us to think to the limits of what can be thought -- and beyond. If you want a compelling story that will leave you thinking, this is your book. Oh yes, this is definitely a book you will want to buy for your children. I can guarantee that, having read it, they will NEVER give hitch-hiking another thought.



Reviewer: Midwest Book Review (Oregon, WI USA)

This complex plot is not for the light-hearted; virtual reality, space exploration and the nature of humanity are all topics which mesh and blend in an often-startling, fast-paced set of scenarios. An alien artifact reveals a possible religious overtone and sets the stage for challenges to human perceptions in this engrossing and detailed story.

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[Referring To # 17]

Well, Speaking Of:

http://www.unknowncountry.com/

DreamLand   (Top Right Corner)


Gregg Braden: the Divine Matrix
February 3, 2007

Gregg Braden is back from 39 days in the highlands of Central China where he has entered a monastery not reachable by road where he saw a painting that is normally concealed from view, that revealed secrets about the very latest scientific understanding of the human mind. Listen as William Henry interviews Gregg about his astonishing findings about the conscious matrix that it is at the core of all reality, and how we can use its power to actually change history and life on earth.

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Re: John Lash: Countdown To 2012

i just saw this perusing at my usual bookmarks.  sent to the group by a person who was involved in interviewing drunvalo.  i looked for a regular--just 2012 thread, and decided on this one.  wow-- we've been really goin at it i see with lots of stuff and this stuff looks "old" and its only days ago.  maybe its me.  anyway take it for the grain of salt under the tongue that it is, and we can just discard ole drunvalo, if u dont like him or hum with it.  what struck me was the same thing i just read that the earth is/will be a spaceship, and theres a possibility were taken her for a ride to "go home on/in/to"--that was neat.  and repeated here?   and that its going in 'waves'--like 3 of them, and ppl are exiting before, as they choose to, and that there are sub/offworlds for some, and theyll go to where they wanna be/conjure it up/vibrate with.  operation terra said this exactly too.  in cohoots?  even mentions the 3 days of darkness.  also says some indians say to lock urself up in ur house, and dont look outside or out the windows, or go out there, and dont have fear.  live in/from the heart.  what i thot was cool was that we figured that out already by ourselves.  kudos to us and were still workin on understanding more.  hints of not dying are in here too. and the physical changes.  pretty interesting, again, shedding light, no matter the source...

http://groups.msn.com/TheHolyGrail/gene … 6996524054

i hope that worked.  and ya know, we got about 7 threads or more? goin on 2012 stuff, intertwined in it.  and other stuff as this does, says 2007 is crucial.  info is repeating itself.  and showing up all over.  disinfo gang putting out their stuff in tandem, or real info?  doesnt matter if were staying in heart, but i agree with what lala says.  u have to keep going in and out of it, day by day, as the time winds by.  easy to fall, and get up and go back down again.  im doin alot of that lately.  tryin to make decisions.  rather not leave the house.  getting worse on that.  all the weirdo energies out there.  i dont get weird dream visitors coming to me.  instead, i have to run into weirdo dierdo humans who make my hair stand on end, and its 14 inches of it, standing straight up almost 24-7.  yikes.  going TO them.  i must do something on that.  really having a hard time staying neutral.  when i dont wanna be around them.  feel bad on it and have guilt but the energy drains OUT there r wicked these days.  if this is my test, im flunking.  and i KNOW it.  and swimming in water up to my neck sometimes.

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"

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zended!  No you're not!  You're not flunking!  But you are picking the
hardest rows to hoe by being on the front lines.  Or you can look at it
as training your discernment.
Reminds me of a discription of a civil war battle where the Southern
soldiers kept coming over the top of this hill to just be mowed down
by the Union soldiers and this went on continuously for hours on end.
The writer said that they were like wooden soldiers that kept popping
up over the hill to be shot down.  Maybe your discernment will be able
to separate the REAL people from the wooden ones which keep
appearing in your path to distract you from helping real people become
more aware and awake.

Re: John Lash: Countdown To 2012

Zenden, Honey, Get Yourself Some Flourite Round Your Neck, Or Something That Resonates, Crystal Like.  And Some Australian Bush Flower Essences For Pyschic Protection  http://www.ausflowers.com.au/shop/scdpr … d%20Violet ,  See Fringed Violet Or Angel Sword (Thanks Barefoot Doc - Works A Treat), Or Something That Resonates.

Zenden, Warrior Woman, And All That That Means, We Love You.

Seriously wink

When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. Jimi Hendrix 

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thanks u guys, so much.  u really help me, u really do.  u know i love u guys to death, too.  what would i do without u?  true friends in this world, and the next.  cant wait to party, be free of all of this.  meanwhile, i heed every word, and will take all suggestions, to serious heart, pronto!  u guys make me think an awful lot, and u'd be pleased to know, that i truly process what u say for days on end.  i keep workin on 'it' all the time.  ur words and thots are GREATLY APPRECIATED.  love always, from heart and soul.

PS! i just figured this out (at work now; i know, i know, with the lobby full of lost souls)--they want me to love & care for them, when they dont know nor love themselves, and thats what pisses me off.  i think i get that now.  they dont wanna do the work, but would have me do it.  i see that now.  ive got to bounce it/that back, rather than absorb it.  have absorbed way too much over the yrs (remember stuie's gut) but was trained to do that.  that i must now reject.  use that violet empath healer energy and cast it onward, bounce it about and give it all back, like a shield, reflecting back to them.  here......catch.  aha.  the awakening has to hit home, to be real, and personal.  thats been my intent.  to really APPLY it.  for real.   i see what must be worked on now, it will free me, eventually, out of this SERVICE CYCLE im stuck in, this life.  i must free myself from it, with love, not malice.  it's complicated.  im feeling/and getting it right now, closer than ive ever been to ther source of the dilemma.  if i am truly powerful, i will see what i must understand and do with this.  omg--if u only knew.  this is amazing.  how this just came.

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"

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I think most of us are constantly processing this stuff.  What we've read,
what we've thought.  What others are thinking...
And this is happening at WARP speed now.

Re: John Lash: Countdown To 2012

I think most of us are constantly processing this stuff.  What we've read,
what we've thought.  What others are thinking...
And this is happening at WARP speed now.

Last edited by Tom Paine (Today 11:55:00)

Yep, indeedydoody!!!!!  cool

When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. Jimi Hendrix 

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heres some follow up on that warp speed from TP and free*--

Once we begin to live authentically we are no longer concerned about the art and practice of manifestation, we simply observe how our thoughts unfold. This is important because, when we are free of conflict, we no longer attune to certain bands of thought; instead we connect with entire fields of thought. In this state, we become the joyful observer, in awe of how creation works.

Remember that all matter and consciousness is made from stringlets of energy and that everything is exactly the same at that level of existence – thought and form is exactly the same.

Once enlightened, we begin to originate thought as a radiance of our Soul. This original thought energy joins with harmonically similar existing particles, bands and fields of thought energy, revitalizing those energies.

Every sentient form of life is a “particle�  of thought energy projection from within a field of thought. Each species, with all its variables, is a complete projection of a given field of thought. When a variable within a species becomes extinct, the entire filed of thought begins to deteriorate. Enlightened humans can replenish the diminished energy within a thought field, virtually bringing back from extinction a vanished variable within a species, or a whole species itself.

Originating thought must manifest into form.

Since time is simultaneous, and we all have incarnations that are enlightened, we are naturally drawn to that lifetime’s energy of that enlightenment and its originating thought forms – example, if in that enlightened incarnation we revitalized the field of thought energy expressing as trees, we might well be a mega tree hugger in this incarnation. The more conflict we liberate in this incarnation, the more attuned we are to our incarnation of enlightenment. Our incarnation of enlightenment is wholly aware of us as an expression of itself, our conflict blocks our complete awareness of it. Once the conflict is gone, this incarnation integrates with that enlightenment and we are now completely aware of all incarnations, each as a variable within our own thought field.

The first step into this awareness is just as you stated, “…a knowing that something is about to come to me and then it does.�

It is very humorous – a very real cosmic joke; right up there with the notion that the only choice was the one we made or will make. It is our great desire for self-realization and enlightenment that compels us forward. To attain self-realization and enlightenment we must release the attachments – techniques and methods – that drove us forward toward knowing. Once enlightened we will not be aware that anyone isn’t. We witness their conflict as an interesting quirk.

Once you become the fairest...Mirror, mirror on the wall…wait a minute, what was that question I always used to ask?

omg! i did it i used html code thingies from montalk! my whole world changed when i learned to cut and paste so i could talk to u guys.  this just gets better and better.  seriously tho, i thot the part about conflict is/was interesting connected to enlightenment searches.  how the desire to get to the bottom of conflict, and to release attachments, (the earthly life, eh?) is the pathway to enlightenement and self-realization.  that's gorgeous.

We first get to fully know ourselves. This is difficult if we are always reacting to life through the filters of our conflicts. This is being in the world and of the world – everything you witness is in terms of how it affects you – you witnessing you. After a lifetime or two of conscious self discovery, we become sovereign. Knowing yourself as a sovereign being allows you to focus your inquiry away from yourself. Manifesting thought to hand is the most complete way to know yourself as sovereign, requiring a short amount of time and comparatively little effort. Once sovereign, you enter the state of selfless-self: individuated actualization focused into the world as a resource for all life – you radiate the joy of liberation into this realm from the First Moment. In this state you are no longer in the world and of it, you are observing the world as it responds to itself through all its forms. Nothing is personalized or objectified, just simply known as the fulfilling dynamics of the First Moment’s First Vision.

Manifesting thought to hand is the natural state for Souls. Instead of utilizing physical matter, etheric energy is commanded to form to satisfy a purposeful need.

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"