Topic: Climate change make the headlines...

I work in a small hotel. Every morning i get about 10 different newspapers. Today ALL of them had one top thread: "CLOBAL WARMING CALLED 'UNEQUIVOCAL; DAMAGE WILL CONTINUE FOR CENTURIES" (this one is from "Herald Tribune"), other banner headlines going like "Our Earth is dying" etc. etc....
So, What the bleep?... I expect Chemtrails galore and more: Lyra wrote:

There are always ulterior agendas going on.  Things are never what they initially seem to be on a surface level.

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So i think "they" are about to start some big nasty thing under a cover for climate protection. But who knows, maybe it's really gonna be just for our own good.
X-zen

It is of prime importance to recognize that just about everything we've been taught to expect as "normal" in our lives is the stuff of fairy tales and unrealistic dreams.
Theodore Isaac Rubin M.D.

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First of all, "they" use environmental causes to justify land grabs (for more reserves, national parks, that kind of thing - or so "they" say). Each new such area limits the opportunity for free movement as well as for owning private property. Note, I'm all for "nature" and less pollution and all that - of course I am. The thing is, such reserves might seem benign and positive in the beginning, and for awhile. But might not seem as much so, when all people are lumped together in only a few "megacities" supposedly to allow nature's free regeneration, while food production probably will be nearly fully automatized (with only the occasional employee for vast numbers of what constitutes todays farms and fields). And the thing is, this is basically a part of "socialist" or "communist" takeover of lands and societies, very much similar to the way a central administration in the old Soviet forcefully "made its way" with a lot of countryside areas, displacing a lot of people and generally imposing its will (following a "larger plan") on the common man - interesting enough, a lot of conspiracy researches say that the aims of the so-called "illuminati" is essentially similar with socialism/communism - or, put in another way, that socialism/communism is another outgrowth, or face/mask, of these Powers That Be. According to my research, this seems pretty on point.

Secondly, might be "they're" planning to unleash something sinister (in a while) using their weather manipulation tech, and this is an advance warning (maybe to their own people, for the most part). But of course, they can't start it off tomorrow, or it will look suspect. But it might possibly take place in the course of this year.

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We've been talking about this subject in this thread: 

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=4443

Specifically the 180 change in attitude that the mainstream "powers that be" have done with regards to global warming - they used to deny it, or just flat out ignore it; now you see articles about it on a daily basis.  It's nuts.  And yes, there's definitely an agenda going on with the 180 change in attitude.  Things are not what they seem to be.

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I suspect global warming is part of a natural cycle, rather than entirely man-made as these headlines and "scientific" reports say. Global warming is how ice ages begin, and ice ages have come and gone in the past when there was no fossil fuel economy. I think rather than admit to this unstoppable cycle, the alien/human powers have capitalized on it by implementing and perpetuating our dependence on fossil fuels to not only reap them incredible profits and control, but also serve as a cover for what is really a natural phenomenon. It may be natural because earth isn't the only planet in the solar system undergoing radical changes at the moment, therefore either the sun or something beyond the solar system entirely is fundamentally at work here, and if so then that explains why it cannot be stopped.

The alien agenda requires that we feel so shitty about ourselves for polluting the planet that we accept their leadership over our own, nevermind that those humans most responsible for destroying the planet are psychopathic alien puppets themselves.

Weather manipulation technology is being used to strike shock into the mass consciousness (Hurricane Katrina and the recent "missing" winter across US and Europe both coincided with HAARP activity) in order to build up a fake "end of the world" scenario leading into a fake savior scenario, so that our planetary destiny can be manipulated and locked into place before the real counterparts to those scenarios ever take place.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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montalk wrote:

The alien agenda requires that we feel so shitty about ourselves for polluting the planet that we accept their leadership over our own, nevermind that those humans most responsible for destroying the planet are psychopathic alien puppets themselves.

Weather manipulation technology is being used to strike shock into the mass consciousness (Hurricane Katrina and the recent "missing" winter across US and Europe both coincided with HAARP activity) in order to build up a fake "end of the world" scenario leading into a fake savior scenario, so that our planetary destiny can be manipulated and locked into place before the real counterparts to those scenarios ever take place.

Well said. Yes, to me it looks like this.

It is of prime importance to recognize that just about everything we've been taught to expect as "normal" in our lives is the stuff of fairy tales and unrealistic dreams.
Theodore Isaac Rubin M.D.

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A couple things I'm trying to remember, Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth talked about ice core samples from Antarctica. He says based on this data methodology they have a climate record that dates back over 400,000 years in to the past. The temperature and CO2 levels now and the spike in the graph are unlike anything else in that record. The suggestion then is that this is entirely man-made.

I've read in several places, related to the global warming arguments, that a single large volcanic eruption can put more CO2 into the atmosphere than the last 100 years of human industrial activity. But unfortunately I don't have any numbers or data in front of me at the moment for comparison. But I have heard it repeated numerous times.

Then there is technological weather manipulation by human/alien forces to advance their agendas. Like oh look you humans screwed up the planet so bad you're going to be wiped out by the extreme weather caused by your own pollution. But us aliens are here and if you want to deal, we can help you solve it. Meanwhile behind the scenes they've been using their technology to cause/increase the extreme weather way beyond what would naturally occur in order to keep the whole TEOTWAWKI idea going in people's minds.

And I read the Cosmic Awareness's 2007 forecast which mentioned that there was artificial weather manipulation to keep things calm in the USA for political reasons. Also predicting more extremes in the first 1/2 of 2007 and then getting more improved after the summer solstice. Several places noted sometime between June-July which could be a sort of tie-in or related to the Mission Ignition/The Blue mentioned 777 trigger date (07/07/2007)...

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sinaptix wrote:

The temperature and CO2 levels now and the spike in the graph are unlike anything else in that record. The suggestion then is that this is entirely man-made.

What I meant to say is that global warming is not entirely man-made, but only partially, whereby the industrial revolution and the continued forced reliance on fossil fuels (via the suppression of alternative energy technologies) purposely coincides with a natural cycle in order to amplify it and cover it up. Because if temp and CO2 levels are now unlike anything previously, then it makes more sense for something already naturally peaking to be jacked up further artificially to create those unprecedented levels. But without that natural peaking, those man-made influences by themselves may not have created something so anomalous.

Also, there's the problem of climatologists not taking into account the catastrophic models of ice ages whereby glaciers and polar ice are formed in years rather than millennia. You know about the reports of mammoths being found frozen standing up with fresh food still in their mouths - that sort of thing.  How long did those ice sheets take to form? I think the scientists are going by relatively "normal" rates of snowfall similar to those happening nowadays, where maybe it grows a couple feet a year. But in the more catastrophic model, several hundred feet may accumulate in a few months before the climate stabilizes. That screws up the dating of how today's levels compare with those of the past. It's been over twelve thousand years since the ending of the last major ice age, within the timeframe of a new one starting up.

And that's another thing - none of these global warming reports or new stories talk about global warming leading into an ice age, that it dramatically increases ice cover on earth after the initial melting phase. Rising ocean temps increase the evaporation rate of ocean water, which adds more moisture to the atmosphere that gets dumped as rain and snow. If the arctic warms by five degrees, its average temperature may go from 10F to 15F, still below freezing, yet the temp increase may radically multiply precipitation there by X amount, thereby raising the rate of snow and ice formation. That is not counting any chaotic changes like what was shown in The Day After Tomorrow.

Whatever the case, I think it is too late for major cutbacks in carbon emissions to stop the process already in motion, and that if man had never gotten into fossil fuels to begin with, we'd still be facing an ice age even if delayed by a few decades.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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montalk,

Yeah that might make a lot of sense since there's been reports via Hoagland and maybe others that there is measured global warming on all of the planets and an increase in brightness of some. I recently read about another news item regarding warming on Saturn but the MSM doesn't put it all out there at once so that people don't connect the dots and see the bigger picture. No doubt there are likely flaws in scientific measurements or process and/or derived conclusions. They showed one picture in the Al Gore movie, of an ice cliff which appeared to have many visible layers. Saying each layer represents 1 year of compacted snow fall, and so therefore, see how obvious it is to count back the years, here's a picture. Now we're going to run off and do all this stuff based on those assumptions... And present it as incontrovertible fact.

The mention of riding the natural climate cycle and attributing it to something else, reminded me of something else: disease cycles and vaccination. I've seen bell curves that show natural outbreaks of disease, up to its peak, and then a natural falloff as people's bodies develop defenses and it fades back down to some low background level again. And then the drug companies would make a vaccine, introduce it on the trailing/falling/dissapating curve of the disease, and attribute the decline falsely, to their own vaccine rather than a known natural disease cycle. So it seems very reasonable that they would apply the same tricks and deceptions in other areas.

I am really really suspicious of the whole mankind and mankind only is responsible for global warming. It probably is a lie by the very fact that it's become a mainstream thing. It must serve somebody's agenda in order to allow it to be mainstream. If it was the truth, then it would probably be another fringe conspiracy thing where people would be laughing at you "Oh nonsense! You're crazy! Run, don't walk to your psychiatrist..."

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About the mammoths
http://wapedia.mobi/en/Mammoth
"Its death must have occurred very quickly after its fall, for we found half-chewed food still in its
mouth, between the back teeth and on its tongue, which was in good preservation. The food
consisted of leaves and grasses, some of the latter carrying seeds. We could tell from these that
the mammoth must have come to its miserable end in the autumn."

They may have fallen through frozen ice into small ponds or potholes, entombing them. Many
are certainly known to have been killed in rivers, perhaps through being swept away by river
floods. In one location, by the Berelekh River in Yakutia in Siberia, more than 9,000 bones from
at least 156 individual mammoths have been found in a single spot, apparently having been
swept there by the current.

To date, thirty-nine preserved bodies have been found, but only four of them are complete. In
most cases the flesh shows signs of decay before its freezing and later desiccation. Stories
abound about frozen mammoth corpses that were still edible once defrosted, but the original
sources (e.g. William R. Farrand's article in Science 133 [March 17, 1961]:729-735) indicate that
the corpses were in fact terribly decayed, and the stench so unbearable that only the dogs
accompanying the finders showed any interest in the flesh.


“As an important landmark in this direction, in December 2005, a team of German, UK &
American researchers were able to assemble a complete mitochondrial DNA of the mammoth,
which allowed them to trace the close evolutionary relationship between mammoths and the
Asian elephant. African elephants branched away from the woolly mammoth around 6 million
years ago, a moment in time intriguingly close to that of the similar split between chimps and
humans
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When something gets headlines with celebs, royals and some politicans behind it there is something wrong. This reality is all about cycles. Once this cycle closes with probably much death and misery they will solve all the problems afterwards and have the world the way they wanted it in the first place. Bring out the tech, weather control and people control that the battered survivors will of course take. Add some cosmic saviors and you have got gold. I mean come on do you actually think this is the first time we have done this? I can feel the replay button being pushed again. Climate change and ETs are being merged together in the media lately...that is not by accident.

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I'd like to add that infamous Coast to Coast AM call to Art Bell had a guy saying he worked for area 51 that there would be climate change disasters and that the government knew about it but wasn't going to tell people where they could go to be safe from it. That the ETs were not who they said that they come from outside this dimension. And once a lot of people were killed off the population left would be easier to control. A lot of people dismiss this call as a hoax but I can't forget the fear and desperation in his voice.

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The other things blaming C02 for global warming is its a cover that protects the real polluters and all their chemical garbage and to make money as they can you for tax us on our C02 "footprint"
There are far worse green house than C02 such as methane which is never mentioned and gases used in fridges.
Why not stop the cull of the rainforests that absorb a lot of C02, never gets mentioned either and all active volcanoes that can spew out as much C02 as millions of cars for a long period.
I think many of us can see through this demonisation of C02 and the agenda behind it, we should after all be running round in water powered cars by now and they try to make us feel guilty by saying "its all of our fault" no its not.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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Barefoot Doc wrote:

I think many of us can see through this demonisation of C02 and the agenda behind it, we should after all be running round in water powered cars by now and they try to make us feel guilty by saying "its all of our fault" no its not.

Or walking behind a mule while we plow the estates of our new feudal masters. For our own good, of course. mad

belljar wrote:

I'd like to add that infamous Coast to Coast AM call to Art Bell had a guy saying he worked for area 51 that there would be climate change disasters and that the government knew about it but wasn't going to tell people where they could go to be safe from it. That the ETs were not who they said that they come from outside this dimension. And once a lot of people were killed off the population left would be easier to control. A lot of people dismiss this call as a hoax but I can't forget the fear and desperation in his voice.

How are your preps? Check http://standeyo.com/News_Files/Hollys.html go to "long term".

We're all butterflies flapping our wings and changing the world.

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Not to mention why haven't we done anything about it til now? I remember when I was in 8th grade studying about global warming, that was 15 years ago! If it was that serious why weren't we looking for renewable energy sources back then? Why wasn''t/ isn't our considerable wealth being used for research into this sort of thing-the future of our planet, instead of war and defense spending!?


I totally agree that something is fishy about all of this.

My People Were Fair And Had Sky In Their Hair...But Now They're Content To Wear Stars On Their Brows

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sinaptix wrote:

I am really really suspicious of the whole mankind and mankind only is responsible for global warming. It probably is a lie by the very fact that it's become a mainstream thing. It must serve somebody's agenda in order to allow it to be mainstream.

This is often the hardest criteria of so many things that I read. The more people become aware of it, the more likely it seems that a concept is actually just an over-simplified ruse being used to deceive some section of the population. I felt this same way about What The Bleep and this new The Secret film. I feel the same way about yoga, reiki and all the mainstream "New Age"-oriented modalities purported to heal and relieve stress. The more popular something is, the more people who have heard of it... the less likely it is to actually be of any use to freedom-seekers, and the more likely it is to be an engineered deception. Observe how David Icke is now being given a "fair chance" with a new documentary on British Television "Was He Right?". Are we meant to believe that "perhaps the public is becoming more open to Icke's ideas?" Is anyone here that fancifully naive?? The public is "open" to whatever TPTB decide they will be opened to. So what's up with that?

I have been revisiting some of Barbara Hand Clowe's Pleiadian Agenda, which I bought a long time ago but never got around to as I had become very "turned off" to a lot of channeling in the past couple years. I don't have it with me to draw any quotes, but it also has a similar tone of "You humans have so ignorantly screwed up your environment, you all must work together to change it, its your fault, etc etc"

All the while, the Global Management Team (illuminati, TPTB, etc) is described as manipulating all aspects of our lives... from the DNA/biological level, to the emotional/mental level, to the spiritual level, over periods of thousands of years. It is explained how we have gotten seperated from our higher-density selves, and our energetic bodies are full of 2D elementals which are causing us to feel tremendous amounts of pain and disease. The book talks about how important it is to release the miasms of radioactivity, which is causing tremendous emotional blockages for humans. (I would like it to explain how to release these miasms by another way besides just meditating and asking for the "Sirian Federation of Light" or the "Pleiadian Healers" or any number of other beings to swoop in and bathe us in healing rays, which is basically all that Amorah Quan-Yin and Marciniak seem to be saying. I was even willing to ask them, but if shit doesn't change, I can't help but be skeptical that there is something else going on there. Did I just get myself some more negative entity attachments, thinking I was doing something positive?)

NOW, when one has been educated on the degree of manipulation and control on all aspects of our lives, how are we supposed to go from that to "Well, let's roll up our sleeves and start cleaning up the environment!" All along, when the book has been describing how humans' blocked emotions have "caused US to hurt the Earth", I cannot help but think "who is this US she is talking about?" It is nothing but the World Management Team implanting their own destructive, control-oriented desires into humans and forcing us to do their will! I can't see how the destruction of the Earth has anything to do with our free will as humans. It even presented the analogy that "You are angry when you hear about the Anunnaki eating you for food, and yet you continue to eat meat!" Well, guess what, I stopped eating meat a long time ago, for exactly those reasons not to mention others. I recycle, I conserve, I re-use. I want to make the change to a lifestyle that will be entirely sustainable to the Earth, however my personal power in this area is extremely limited. I think that people should have been making major lifestyle changes in the 60s and 70s, when there were tons of books published on the importance of sustainable agriculture, eco-building, conservation, etc. I was born in the 80s, and my parents were happy to have microwaveable "TV dinners" so we could watch StarTrek and eat off TV trays instead of having to actually talk or anything. Our culture is utterly OUT of the mindset that we need sustainability, that we need to grow our own foods instead of depending on markets, that we need to have food stored up in our cellars and supplies of fresh drinking water. It is still MY plan to do this, but without any money or community support, my plans have been placed on the backburner indefinitely, and if the power got shut-off tomorrow I would probably starve within a week.

Did you know that 70% of the grain grown in the US (and 1/3rd of the total world supply) goes to feed cattle? Someone mentioned methane emission before as contributing more to global warming, well we have an entire nation full of millions of methane-farting cows, taking up thousands of acres where we could instead be growing potentially 3X as much grains or vegetables. The cattle industry has to go before anything will be able to "turn around" environtally, but until people get over their queseomorphine addictions to the pain-relieving chemicals of dairy products, we're not gonna see ANYONE willing to make such a change.

SO what is to be done about the environment, when so much money and negative energy is working so aggresively to destabilize, rape and destroy. I appreciate that ETs such as the Pleiadians have given their assurances that "off-planet intervention" can bring new technologies that would heal and change the world in very short time frame (Messages From Matthew makes this reassurance from time to time). But obviously that is the same old "Please, we've been so good, won't someone better than us please come SAVE US now??" Which is totally a non-empowered mentality.

It seems as though we are demanded to become totally detached from the outcomes of everything we are doing, and yet it has been made extremely clear that we are in very dire, dangerous, extreme and unique circumstances. I don't assume to understand the overall agenda at all, I think all we can grasp at is these little books and documents that make their way to the public, combined with our own intuitive insights. And how good have those been so far, in terms of making a noticeable difference in the overall direction of the destructive path our Earth is on? If anything, for most of us I just see our "intuitions" guiding us from one failed modality to another, from one belief system to another, constantly trying to put together the big puzzle, never quite getting there, realizing that we've gone in circles. How many people are confusing their "intuition" for just another negative entity attachment? It seems clear that to our limited ego-mind, we cannot tell the difference, even if things feel "loving" "positive" or "uplifting" they can still be entirely negative and detrimental on a scale that we cannot perceive.

Montalk wrote:

The alien agenda requires that we feel so shitty about ourselves for polluting the planet that we accept their leadership over our own, nevermind that those humans most responsible for destroying the planet are psychopathic alien puppets themselves.

See, I'm not going to buy into that mentality and accept alien leadership. BUT, I am worried about the millions/billions of people on the planet who HAVE BEEN buying into that forever and are going to continue buying into it. What do we do about them? What does our awareness get us besides being able to see how screwed everyone is? Are we really still counting on the "hundredth-monkey" hypothesis?

Tim

Tim