Orion planet of STS souls after 2012.........a description (Page 1 of 2)

STS means Service-To-Self, as opposed to STO which means Service-To-Others. Orion is a constellation, not a planet. Your question seems somewhat strange to me, and I cannot answer it. As a matter of fact, your entire way of speaking (not just in this post) seems somewhat strange to me. I do not necessarily mean this in a negative way, it is just something I noticed and which makes me curious.

Moralman,
What sources are you referring to? As I have discussed with others of like interest, and I believe the Cassiopeans refer to this, souls will go to different places according to their level of growth. I will have to go back and check what it is that I read, but I have had some dreams about different planets souls will go to. I know there will be a 3D and a 4D Earth. Have you read any of the Cass material?

Well okay then! (from Raising Arizona) I was trying to determine  where you came up with the name of the planet. And I haven't discussed this with anyone on the forum, rather with people I know at home here. But, I wanted some kind of reference base from you before I discussed the subject. Like, did you read this, channel it, etc. What do you mean when you say you haven't bought forth any sources? You did mention "according to some sources." As far as my dreams go, the planets I've seen were futuristic and hostile with beings straight out of a sci-fi movie or comic. Large and powerful, armored and what not. The thing was that everyone was in a struggle for survival, no peace. I know not the name of this planet, but it was reference to questions in my mind pertaining to the future. Another was people enslaved and subjected to sexual, etc., experiments. They  were a while back. So the details are not there. Again, futuristic. Also, the STO planet was anything you could imagine. Freedom. My guess from the dreams I had was/is the STS planets will be very stressful, more than here. You don't want to go there. But, my knowledge is limited so that is all I can tell you, as those are just my impressions.

I'll give this a try.  First, I suggest that there are many STS planets.  Hundreds, thousands, millions - I don't know, but I'm pretty sure that it's not just one STS planet of Orion.  Also, I understand that Orion is a system or area of stars and planets, rather than just a single planet.

With regard to your "style", I liked your response "My style is ultimately mine and I don't pretend to be an expert in the subjects raised on this forum however I do have my own opinions.
I ask questions that are interesting to me and can be to others."

I have noticed your style, and I do have a comment and I hope that is OK with you if I mention it.  I think that you tend to ask direct, to-the-point questions with the intention of getting responses.  Initially, I think there may have been a question of "where you were coming from" because you didn't tend to offer your own point of view.  Over time, I have gathered the impression that your interest is genuine, and therefore I am interested in responding to your questions.

With regard to what life is like on a STS planet, I suggest the possibility of a strict corporate-military hierarchy.  Everyone is aware of the hierarchy and individuals are trying to improve their position.  The goal is to rise by dominating others.  Actually, I think that life here on Earth may give a pretty good outline of what a STS world is like.  A difference is that you may have to remove many of the artistic people as well as the people working for the betterment of humanity through various ways.

A think that the leaders of an effective STS planet would eventually get on the path of enslaving other planets.  Perhaps that is what we are seeing here with the attempted take over of the Earth.

I agree that a pure STS planet would be far worse than the world we live in today.
However, I will add that the question of worse/better is from my perspective.

To someone who leans STO, STS looks horrible and like something that would have to be endured.

However, to someone on the STS path, they very well may prefer that environment.  It may be better suited to their development and that may be why they end up there.

I like your description of the STS environment- it corresponds with how I see it.

Again, I suggest that those STS souls may not be wondering: "Why can't we all get along, it would be much more peaceful".  It may be closer to imagine them thinking: "How can I increase my power over others?"

Hi Moralman,

From what I understand, 3rd density Earth is a completely STS realm, versus an STS world "to a degree."   ALL beings who reside here do so because they are STS.

Now...........

There are certainly many individuals who are gravitating towards the STO path.  But as long as they are here in 3rd, that makes them STS.   Why?   Because they eat other creatures to survive.   Because this a realm full of struggle and survival.    As long as you're eating other creatures and have to struggle and survive, you're an STS being, in an STS realm, who for whatever reason, has yet to make it to a higher STO realm.

There could be many reasons for why someone is still here in STS 3rd despite their STO inclination.   With "wanderers", it is personal choice.    They supposed come here to help out, pitch in and play their part in this game, adding their STO frequency to the mix.   But while they're here -- eating creatures and surviving - they have (temporarily) made themselves STS again.  They will not be STO again until leaving this realm. 

For the other 3rd density non-wanderer dwellers, again, they may have STO leanings which sets them on a path for 4th density STO, but until they actually make the full transition to 4th STO, they are STS as long as they're here.

For many who have read up on the whole STO / STS thing it can be hard to digest that they are in actuality STS.   Many for some reason don't like to think of themselves that way or want to put themselves "above that".   But we have to face the facts --  We have incarnated in this zoo.   Now why would we do that, unless there is still some part of us that is STS inclined?   For many this could be their final incarnation in the zoo, the incarnation that puts them over the edge into 4th density STO once and for all.   For others, they've already been to the STO realms and have come back, like I mentioned.   Now we have to figure out which group we fit in to.   Are we a wanderer, or are we a brand new 4D STO candidate?   Sometimes it's hard to tell.   Look within to find the answers to that one.
 
This info. comes from the C's, and the Ra material, just to quote my sources. 

exactly what i was thinking;

also, if someone was a Vegan (vegatarian) does that make them STO ?

are u to say Jesus was an STS ? i do not think so.

What about Ghandi ? you consider him STS ?

Think about what your sources are saying.

I heard that the world's mass population is increasing in the percentage of STO entities.
And it is also claimed that after a certain % is hit (80% STO), the world can shift on its own, without solar flares or any cataclysms.

once again we find a conlfict between sources.

I dont understand why you think there cannot be STO entities here?
Don't YOU live your life in STO orientation ? I would sure hope you do.
STO is an orientation, and YOU decide this. not any "rules" or channels that say otherwise. it is a State of Mind, Body, and Soul.
Eating other creatures is NOT about STS/STO... it is about 3D life. we simply HAVE to consume for nutrients. in higher densities nourishment may come from the energy of the universe, and you would NOT have to eat animals... but does that mean a 4D who does not eat animals is automatically STO ??

just some thoughts.