Re: The Zoolander Cipher

lyra wrote:
Mencius wrote:

I get it. Seems kind of outlandish to me.

It's like learning a code or something.  It unlocks many things that are presented to us in the media.   The media is very.....neferious, at best.  Too many people naively believe that it's all just to entertain us.  Woe to them for their naivete!  There's this whole other not-so-hidden layer going on probably in MOST Hollywood movies, so, it's time people began waking up to this so they can watch these movies from a point of awareness, instead of being an alpha state sponge who just indiscriminately soaks up all the programming, symbolisms and triggers with no conscious understanding of what's going into their brain.  I used to be like that, so, I'm glad that I've gotten a little more aware about things.

I agree with this. I understand that Hollywood is out to program us, and I think they do a very good job of it.

But there is an extent to which the interpretation of symbols can go for my own comfort. I just don't believe the plot and script of the entire movie is all built up around sublte mind-control symbolism. One can certainly find possible meanings to very small details like the color of Mugatu's dog, but I have my doubts that such things are intended. The shot of Hansel leapfrogging over the woman and over the gas-pump just prior to the 'gas-fight', yeah, i'm sure that's the director's intention. and that this 'gas-war' is indeed a strage idea to have had before 9/11. hmm....

even if all this stuff *is* subtle mind-control, I don't the director is aware of it. could be he's mind-controlled too.

does anybody care to explain how this sort of conditioning is supposed to work?

Mencius

17 (edited by Bhang 2007-01-19 15:47:02)

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Shoogie:Here's what I've always wondered though, how far does the rabbit hole go? I mean how many actors and directors are aware, fully, of the occult symbology in movie studio logos, and elite mind control references. Who writes the screenplays and do they know? I mean not everyone who works on the movie could possibly be aware which suggests that everything has to be approved and tweaked before release by someone higher up. ... the director? Producer?

I would think those highest in the Writers/Actors Guild have gone through many classes on embedding subliminal themes. I would also guess Writers Guild members who are also part of a Masonic Lodge (or any nefarious, secret cult will do), would be willing to embed "super-rituals" into certain movies that appeal to them. If I believe that WILL can manifest material objects, I would make a film that has hidden images/programing so MILLIONS of minds would unconsciously will/desire the thing I implanted. Maybe my intent is to have you laugh when you see death. Maybe my intent is to have you think war is good. Maybe my intent is to have you think that population control is needed... all these things and more can easily be embedded in the text/dialog of a movie while I show you an image that has nothing to do with the text. This is a disassociation of information and on most minds, the real message is overlooked. I guess that Ben Stiller and George Clooney know more about this than most actors.

Lyra:Bhang, some of the pics seem to be missing now, possibly they were directly linked to other websites/sources, and those people removed them for bandwidth purposes?  If so one idea is to save the images to your computer or to your own website in some way and link directly to the saved file.  That's what I do.  I find an image, size it down in Photoshop, then save it to my website and create a link to the file on my website, versus linking to other sites....

The pics are hosted on my site. If they are not loading I can put them all in a file and send them off to whoever would like to host them. Or you can register and log in to see them. Like I said; I would post here but I m having text issues. Let me add attachments to my post and I'll upload the whole thing here.

Mencius: But there is an extent to which the interpretation of symbols can go for my own comfort. I just don't believe the plot and script of the entire movie is all built up around sublte mind-control symbolism. One can certainly find possible meanings to very small details like the color of Mugatu's dog, but I have my doubts that such things are intended. The shot of Hansel leapfrogging over the woman and over the gas-pump just prior to the 'gas-fight', yeah, i'm sure that's the director's intention. and that this 'gas-war' is indeed a strange idea to have had before 9/11. hmm....

Lol. I'm only a third of the way done with the post, wait to see the rest before you judge. That is a 20 page forum code in Microsoft Word. I have 61 pages of material to go through and have already messed up some code in the first post - this is a lot more work than it may seem. I'm telling you this movie was intended to portray certain folks involved with the NEW WORLD ORDER plan for New York and 9/11, the subsequent war and elite pedophilia/human trafficing/ritual abuse. At the top of the pyramid laughing at us all.  My interpretations may be a bit off here and there, but after watching this movie like 6 times in the past week, I'm convinced that most of what I'm saying is very accurate.

41 pages to go....

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18 (edited by lyra 2007-01-19 19:34:50)

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Mencius wrote:

But there is an extent to which the interpretation of symbols can go for my own comfort.

I hear you about this.  Sometimes it can go a bit too far.  wink  I don't agree with every interpretation found in the "Zoolander Cipher," but, I think that a lot of them may be spot on. 



Mencius wrote:

I just don't believe the plot and script of the entire movie is all built up around subtle mind-control symbolism.

Well, what if it actually is?   !  It seems pretty out there at first ponder....until you consider who many of these moviemakers are.  Seems that many of them are Freemasons for instance, from what I've learned, or else have ties to other groups and occult doings, be it Satanism and so on.

If a screenwriter or director (sometimes the roles overlap) are pretty high up there with ties to secret groups, and with access to esoteric knowledge, then yeah, I can totally see how it's feasible that an entire movie would be purposely laced with symbolisms and built around mind control themes or esoteric/occult stuff....while passing itself off as "harmless entertainment," "bread and circuses" for the unsuspecting, naive masses. 

And it all serves a multi-layered purpose:

1.  Generate $$ money $$ for the studios, first and foremost.  Of course. wink
2.  Provide distraction and diversion - keep people's focus away from that which matters the
     most so they are rendered ineffective;
3.  Program the people; trigger the ones that already have latent programming;
4.  Generate "loosh" (term that means energy, coined by Robert Monroe) for the non-physical
     realms
who have a need to feed on the negative, and/or sexual energy generated by
     humans.  Movies and TV provide ENDLESS amounts of loosh for stuff to feed on;
5.  Provide warnings about the schemes and plots that TPTB have up their sleeves.   I was
     just talking with somebody recently who said something that I agree with, that the way this   
     reality seems to work is that the negs who run things from behind the scenes have to "let us 
     know in advance" what they plan to do with us - possibly it's the occult workings of their realm,   
     that you have to let the victim know in advance what you plan to do to them to give them the
     (freewill....) chance and opportunity to do something about it.   However, them being well, who
     they are wink do it in the most subtle way possible.  They don't announce it from the rooftops, 
     (well...usually....haha)  But one way they do seem to do it is to embed it in our entertainment. 
     Problem is, everybody's so damn asleep and unaware (also courtesy of "them") that it doesn't
     register with most people.  Or if it does, then it does so too late, after the fact.  But hey...they
     technically fulfilled their end of the bargain, they technically let us know wink is how they look at 
     it.
6.  On a related note, some of these movies may also actually serve as an elaborate occult ritual   
     in themselves.  Combining together several of the above points - if a movie is about a
     particular meaningful (maybe occult) topic to them, and is released on a particular date,   
     (numerical/ritual significance) and generates mass amounts of energy from the movie-goers
     who are watching, then the entire thing as a whole is like an occult ritual in a way, serving
     these moviemakers' Gods.  Whoever they are.


.....All of which is getting into the hyperdimensional aspect of our reality.  Many of the things happening in this world, the incredible synchs and coincidences, the way in which things come together  and "line up" initially don't make any sense....until you consider the hyperdimensional aspect of things.  wink 


Mencius wrote:

even if all this stuff *is* subtle mind-control, I don't the director is aware of it. could be he's mind-controlled too.

Well, see above points.  Also, yeah, I think some of these moviemakers may be mind controlled themselves, or else being fed their ideas by stuff from other realms, not even aware of where they get their material from.  I wonder about Jim Henson for instance.  To have created "Labyrinth" and "Dark Crystal" I wonder, was he consciously "in the know" about stuff?  Or was something feeding him ideas, unbeknownst to him?   We'll never know.

Anyway, just my ideas on the matter!

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19 (edited by Bhang 2007-01-19 16:19:02)

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Nice list Lyra,

1.  Generate $$ money $$ for the studios,  first and foremost.  Of course. wink
2.  Provide distraction and diversion - keep people's focus away from that which matters the
     most so they are rendered ineffective;
3.  Program the people; trigger the ones that already have latent programming;
4.  Generate "loosh" (energy) for the non-physical realms who have a need to feed on the
     negative, and/or sexual energy generated by humans.  Movies and TV provide ENDLESS
     amounts of loosh for stuff to feed on;
5.  Provide warnings about the schemes and plots that TPTB have up their sleeves.   I was
     just talking with somebody recently who said something that I agree with, that the way this   
     reality seems to work is that the negs who run things from behind the scenes have to "let us
     know in advance" what they plan to do with us - possibly it's the occult workings of their realm,   
     that you have to let the victim know in advance what you plan to do to them to give them the
     (freewill....) chance and opportunity to do something about it.   However, them being well, who
     they are wink do it in the most subtle way possible.  They don't announce it from the rooftops,
     (well...usually....haha)  But one way they do seem to do it is to embed it in our entertainment.
     Problem is, everybody's so damn asleep and unaware (also courtesy of "them") that it doesn't
     register with most people.  Or if it does, then it does so too late, after the fact.  But hey...they
     technically fullfilled their end of the bargain, they technically let us know wink is how they look at it.
6.  On a related note, some of these movies may also actually serve as an elaborate occult ritual in
     themselves.  Combining together several of the above points - if a movie is about a particular
     meaningful (maybe occult) topic to them, and is released on a particular date, (numerical/ritual
     significance) and generates mass amounts of energy from the movie-goers who are watching,   
     then the entire thing as a whole is like an occult ritual in a way, serving these moviemakers'
     gods.  Whomever they are.

Can anyone tell me what is on that screen?
http://www.wachadoo.com/forum/files/zoo_desk_205.jpg

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Some thought provoking movie posters and their captions

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/6396 … er36hd.jpg

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6818/hostver63jt.jpg

here's an interesting ben stiller one, notice how he's walking towards the light-illuminated -more knowledge as he progresses through the halls, and the reptile [t-rex] over it all

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2772 … eum1jn.jpg

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/3889 … ate3so.jpg

Check this one out! This is for the kiddies

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/3038/doogal9kn.jpg


taking the world by storm indeed! yikes

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ok last one, I promise. This one deals with Moloch-owl demon and the plight of the children. Starring Owen Wilson's [Hansel in zoolander] brother, luke!

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3047/hoot3fs.jpg

the caption says: "its time to stand up for the little guys" sad

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22 (edited by sinaptix 2007-01-20 01:08:29)

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I had to go watch the movie after reading part 1. A couple random thoughts. A lot of artists have commented when they are in the creative zone, that ideas just flow, for example, "the song practically wrote itself". Like maybe the ideas are being channeled to a receptive writer, etc. That movie was really creepy. There's a bunch of things I would have missed and simple not known if it wasn't for Bhangs attentive commentary. Like time frames around WTC/9/11/Time Magazine. It really does look like the movie is tell a story on more than one level. I've at least talked to a couple musicians who have commented on fans who have written up deep analysis of lyrics for songs and their meanings. Where the artists have said it was nothing of the sort, and oh my where did they get that crazy left field concept from?!

As far as the conclusion with Derelicte, I hope Bhang is wrong. Even so, I think it's going wrong for TPTB. Some of the ideas/goals like the population control, seem like it's going all wrong. I thought they had targets to have the population more reduced by now. Designer diseases really haven't killed very many people. Bird Flu looks like it fizzled. I'd like to think more optimistically like in TPTB's dreams but that's where it stays.

Another minor thing, Milla Jovovich is in this one too (as Katinka). I thought it was notable considering she was in other interesting symbolic films like Resident Evil, The Fifth Element, and Ultra Violet. Sometimes I think these in depth reviews are just totally nuts. I can't really weave a consistent relevance of this thing like M.Jovovich into this story. And stuff like D.Z. into DMZ seems like a real stretch to me. But OTOH it seems like Bhang has a lot of hits, the mind control programming, genetics things, gas wars, etc. I enjoyed the write-up more than the movie. The movie was disgusting and left me with a sick feeling. Even more so thanks to elements of this article rolling around in my head. And then scanning over the article again after just seeing the movie, there's still a ton of stuff I missed, even though I read about it before I saw it.

And BTW, in that Magic Roundabout picture, is that a mushroom cloud in the background there? nuclear? taking the world by storm? or just a phallus?

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Bhang wrote:

Can anyone tell me what is on that screen?

Screen saver... tongue

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I know firsthand that 'profound' stuff authors don't even think about creep into what they do. Did a short silent film written by some friends, turned out a dissection of part of the Adam Kadmon. They had never read anything about that stuff, and didn't mean it (or much of anything at that) with the project. Were more interested in trying camera and montage techniques. Freaky when that happens.

When we've got a phenomenon though, have to postulate all possible sources:

Could be conspiracy to induce or facilitate events through resonance of symbols in numerous minds, OR conspiracy to warn 'those who have ears to hear' EITHER by concious, conspiratorial planning OR collective unconcious intervention (vide supra).

Could ALSO be reading too much into it OR that all can be read from anything IF you know how to look (Being one of the prime criticisms directed against qabalism, but rarely used against cannibalism. Coincidence!?)

The movie itself left me with the taste of lameness in my mouth. Bhang's write up is far more interesting.

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To me, it is just mind boggling that somebody could sit down and right a sreenplay or book and throw in all this symbolism and mind programming, just in one movie. Especially when you read Bhang's write up on Zoolander. 
We all pretty much know that the enternainment industry is under the spell of the TPTB, and most likely was instigated by them. What better way to reach a wide range of people.
I tend to lean towards one of Lyra's and Sinaptix's theories, that ideas are being channeled to the writers. I do believe that artists  are able to tap into some stream of consciousness. Who's to say that "stream" isnt somehow being manipulated by TPTB? I just cant believe somebody is going to take the time to try and write a script and cram in as much symbolism as possible and come out with a coherent storyline.
The real question is, how much is this hidden agenda really affecting people? I mean, I came away from the movie, (and personally, I like Ben Stiller's movies) viewing it as another slapstick, screwball comedy.

In man's analysis and understanding of himself, it is as well to know from whence he came as whither he is going.   Edgar Cayce

Beliefs are tools for social conditioning, rather than expressions of inner realization or inner truth.   unknown
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26 (edited by Bhang 2007-01-20 08:39:27)

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People....

The script of Zoolander is not just a script.

EVERY LINE, EVERY SHOT, EVERY ANGEL, IS PART OF A MAGIC RITUAL.

This is what is called a Great Work. I bet 98% of the people who worked on the film (a few hundred judging by the credits) had NO IDEA WHATSOEVER as to the significance of the movie they were making. They did not know that the Character Maury Ballstein is a Zionist working on a secret genetic "look". They just thought he was a rich Jewish, CEO/ "Fashion Designer" with funny lines and shady dealings.  Sometimes the Writers were FORCED to take the the time to ADD DIALOG or Extend A Scene because there are smart people out their who might figure this stuff out - You don't want, say,  Ten Thousand people like me saying something this awful about a product you had made; do you? They have to hide this stuff in plain sight and as some here mentioned: "they have to tell their plans, and intentions before they carry out the slaughter of the sheep. If the sheeple have been told for years and years, right in front of their faces, WHAT THE  PLAN IS and for years and years no one would actually read the signs, then when MAGNUM DROPS the Elite feels that you have no one to blame but your selves -

Just  like "taking the world by storm" obviously we have been warned for 3 or 4 decades about weather control, even as far back as Tesla, we were warned that weather control is possible and very dangerous . Look at the Tsunami, and look how Katrina wanted to work it's way up the East Coast then  suddenly went AROUND Florida, right next to the OIL FIELDS of Texas (putting pressure on prices) and "Cleaning out non MODELS from the area... now they are rebuilding in their image (same thing in Sri Lanka).

http://www.homelandsecurity.org/newjournal/Articles/images/Katrina_path.gif

We have been warned. I'm just focusing on one movie here - there are at least 20 that I can quickly think of that have this type of Embedded Messages. There or only 5 that I can ACTUALLY SEE - that is, CIPHER FULLY.

1. Ocean's 11 & 12 (12 is a very difficult one but it's about 9/11 and Tsunami)
2. Zoolander (9/11, Iraq War/War on Terror, SRA)
3. 12 Monkeys (also difficult, Time Travel/Viruses)
4. A Series of Unfortunate Events (Illuminati, Tsuanmi, Nuclear Strike, Underground Bases, Child Abductions, Aliens (snakes))

Those are the 5 that I can really see and could do "write ups" on. I would have not gone through the time and trouble if I thought just one moive was like this... they are all saying the same basic things...
I don't write these things just to entertain people...



Shoogie: I think you should start a movie poster thread of all the ones that strike you as odd.

Speaking of odd and storms... two nights ago a storm ripped a roof of a three story building and smashed into the building I was working in. The roof was so massive it covered the whole street, destroyed two medium sized tress, toppled and crushed a dumpster and my work is right next to a school... I was just out threre 10 minutes before it happened, I thank god no one was hurt.

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The abuser loves to tell the victim what they are going to do to them. That's how the occult ritual killing goes. They tell us through movies, tv, books, music, etc. They own everything and most people so they can push a button from the top and let it all come out.

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Bhang, believe me, I wasnt disagreeing with you at all. The point I was trying to make was that I dont believe that most of the people that write these scripts realize that they are being influenced, and have no clue whats behind a lot of the content.

In man's analysis and understanding of himself, it is as well to know from whence he came as whither he is going.   Edgar Cayce

Beliefs are tools for social conditioning, rather than expressions of inner realization or inner truth.   unknown
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29 (edited by lyra 2007-01-20 17:23:49)

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I'd be interested in a thread about revealing movie posters with innuendo taglines too, if Shoogie's interested in starting one.  My personal faves that Shoogie posted were the Charlotte's Web poster, "Help is coming from above," and The Magic Roundabout, with "Taking the World by Storm."  !   Also ties into the idea I had about programming trigger phrases in movie trailers and such.  For "Resident Evil 2" it was "My name is Alice...and I remember everything."  In mind control (MC) programming, "Alice in Wonderland" is a hugely popular theme.  So this particular line really jumped out at me when I first heard it, especially considering that in MC, photographic memory is a big thing that targets will have.  Also, it could be a trigger to get people to "remember" their programming.   Then there was the movie "Hard Candy," and at the end of the trailer the girl says, "Play time is over.  It's time to wake up."  Time to wake up would be a definite MC candidate trigger all the way.  It didn't even fit into the rest of the trailer, imo, making it that much more suspicious.  Then there was the Michael Douglas movie, The Sentinel, about an assasination plot on the Prez.  The tagline for that one was, "In 141 years there's never been a traitor in the Secret Service....Until now."  As noted in other thread and on my website, I've discovered that the number "141" seems to be used in MC.  Long story with all that, but this number was also featured in "Fight Club," and that's a MAJOR mind control programming/reinforcer movie for those with agent provocateur/assasin type programming and compartmentalized minds, blowing shit up, killing, and overall making mayhem in society.  And being that The Sentinel is about an asssination plot on the Prez and has 141 in the tagline, that certainly fits, imo.

Anyway, a movie posters/tagline thread could be cool. I'd link to it on my site too if it happened, because it's interesting.

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Greetings, all,

I'm finding this thread esp. fascinating since I used to work in the Industry as an actor & screenwriter (not very successful at either). I never took part in any "inner sanctum" meetings but I know a good deal about the system leading up to that, and the people you find there.

Re Bhang's analysis of "Zoolander": what you see in the film is "really there" as the other posters are confirming. But having observed & participated in the actual day-to-day production of films like this, I can say categorically that scripts are rarely adhered to in their original form (much to the writer's chagrin). The creative process involves input from every department converging on the director, whose decisions re a particular scene are often spontaneous, i.e., made on the fly, just before the cameras roll. Due to the sheer overload of details, the director simply has to delegate minutiae to the crew and focus on getting the best shots & performances within time & budget constraints.

Later, in the editing room, the director has another chance to rethink the scene. And again, when the execs (producers & those representing the money) see the work in progress, they'll give the director notes: usually stupid ideas, which clever directors find ways to ignore if possible. If the film requires help from the military, a liaison officer will collaborate, with considerable clout, from script approval onwards. If the Pentagon doesn't like what the film's saying, they can just take their toys and go home. Finally, studios will test-screen films to gauge audience reaction; based on the responses, scenes might have to be re-edited or re-shot before the film is released. And after all this trying to please everyone, nobody really knows if the film will succeed or tank. (A: Most tank.)

Given all this barely-controlled chaos, I lean towards the notion that the "inspiration" containing a hidden agenda or a "Revelation of the Method" does not usually reside in just one person working on a project, but is expressed through a multitude of persons, and mostly unconsciously. Rather than attributing it to a secret society, the real source may be "elsewhere", i.e., not this dimension. If you've ever felt the vibe in L.A., you might agree, it's very close to a David Lynch movie: a Hungry Ghost Realm (check out his "Mulholland Drive" for ex.) -- it took months to recover after I left.

A little story: Years ago, at a lunch meeting with a junior exec scouting for new talent, I met a wannabe writer who claimed to be a 33rd degree Mason -- a chiropractor, believe it or not. One of his stories centered on a bit of Masonic history, quite brazen propanganda, really; the other story involved Americans in the Spanish Civil War (1937) -- coincidentally, I was pitching a script on the same subject (mine was more accurate, his was more spectacular). I don't think his secret handshakes did him much good -- last I heard, he still had his day job. smile

Coming Soon: "The Number 23" starring Jim Carrey & Virginia Madsen. A guy slowly goes cuckoo from too much pattern recognition: seeing "23" everywhere (esp. numerologically). Hmm... makes you wonder.