Topic: Hello there! (First Post)

Hello everyone,

I accidentally discovered this site today while using the 'StumbleUpon' plugin for Firefox. I read a few articles from the main homepage, and became very interested in reading more. Then I discovered this forum!

I won't be so rude as to write a really long rambling first post, but I would very much like to have a chance to talk with some folks about some experiences I've had, and maybe some of you will have had similar experiences and discovered some explanation?

I will say that the articles regarding nonhuman entity interferance particularly hit home, as I have had a number of very peculiar incidents, especially when I was a little younger and more 'spiritually curious'. I'm not a total newbie: I was raised around occult literature, I had a 'born-again' experience and attended a pretty intense Christian church for several years, I've met with a Reiki Master/Psychic who was very gifted, I've read a great deal of Buddhist and Hindu literature, and most of the 'conspiracy' material from popular writers in recent years.

Thanks!

Re: Hello there! (First Post)

Well Met!!

It'll be great to hear your experiences and input...

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Re: Hello there! (First Post)

Thanks for the welcome!

I'm interested to hear what everyone's take is on the article in the main page related to the idea of our species being dominated/manipulated by another species who remain hidden. That's quite intense!

Simplified, I'll say that as a very young child I first became aware of the presence of something non-visible, and negative around me at times. My parents had a collection of books related to the occult, demonic possessions, ghost stories, UFO abductions, etc., so there was probably a pretty 'iffy' spiritual climate in the house. They both were probably attracting or producing a lot of negative energy too, which as a kid I was probably more sensitive to than they were.

As a young adult, I was doing a lot of reading and experimenting with pop-metaphysics...astral projection, lucid dreams, trying to see auras, etc. I was also reading and focusing a lot on the occult, and SRA, mostly out of morbid fascination, I suppose.

Sometime in my early 20's, a friend introduced me to Christianity, and that's when the craziest stuff began to happen. We, amongst a small group of close friends, began to experience some pretty hair-raising things (objects moving, conversing with entities through other people (very frightening information related to ancestry, bloodlines and permission), seeing 'clouds' of haze that would follow us, seeing 'back-lit' figures at night with abnormally skinny, angular bodies, light pools with no visible source, flashing blue red and gold 'sparkles' that would appear on people and things, lots of other stuff). As I would start to clean my life of negativity, there would always be periods of what I would call 'resistance'...usually causing a great deal of fear for me, like to make me stop trying. I had a couple of involuntary OBE's involving small child-like things with pure black eyes...horrible. I was never ever harmed though, and felt that I was protected and had stumbled on some kind of law that gave me a position of authority over these things, if I could somehow call it up. Somehow, invoking the name of Jesus Christ would cause all kinds of things to happen. I don't know if it was because we believed it, or because there's an entity named Jesus Christ, or what the case was. Some of the experiences were so intense, that a couple guys would 'block' out the experiences from their memories...and when you'd try to remind them or talk about the experiences, they'd become upset, start to remember then finally block it out again and not want to talk about it.

Eventually, I began to feel that Christianity was not the answer I was looking for (despite what I had seen), that it felt like an incomplete entry into something deeper. This was tough, because it was the primary influence for positivity in my life, and I had started to get conditioned to that particular style of thinking.

I spent a long while reading the so-called 'lost' Christian/Gnostic books, reading the books of Jiddu Krishnamurti, a lot of Zen-style Buddhist writing...and experienced several experiences where all I can describe is that my mind became 'wider' feeling...like I could see more of a larger picture clearly, and my sense of rationality became clearer. But I was also having a tough time putting all of the knowledge, and experiences into a meaningful or rational context.

Around this time, for whatever reason, I developed an obsession with UFO's and the whole alien experience. I've collected hours and hours of videos and a whole bookshelf of books on the subject. I've read about the whole tie-in with the biblical events and the interpretation of that. I've read about the parallels between angelic/demonic entities and the similarity with the alien experience, etc. I've read about native cultures' religions and what they described as gods teaching them. I've read the accounts in the Hindu literature regarding 'gods' visiting with humans, etc. I've read all about the contrails/chemtrails and I've even seen one of the 'black lines' from the nose of one of the planes, like it was following a laser-guide or something!

I went to meet with a lady who had a private practice as a Reiki master, whom I'd been introduced to by some friends. She was also a self-described 'psychic', and I saw/felt enough of her talent to feel that she was legit. She did a lot of 'body energy' manipulation and worked with crystals and remote-viewing/healing. She said I had a lot of negative energy attachments, and that my aura was like a 'sheet of black' when she first met with me. She did a lot of good for me, but it was like the work she was doing was stirring up something ugly in/around me and  I had to stop going to the sessions, I think it was more than she expected to have to deal with. She said she began to experience unusual things in her own private life as a result of seeing me in her practice, and went as far as to accuse me of being the cause.

So that's a very abbreviated history of the type of experiences I've had. I think to remain sane and functioning, I've also had to try to 'block' it all out and keep life as simple and mundane as possible. Doing this has put something good in me to sleep that I think should be awakening.

I would conclude that I have a definite sense of being manipulated and dominated by something that at the very least wants to keep me from growing as a positive human being. This 'something' is intelligent and separate from myself. It doesn't own or directly control me, but causes me to be be dulled or puts difficulty in my path when I need to do good. When I get close to figuring it out, or seeing it clearly, it uses intense fear to drive me back to sleep.

The article on the main page was the closest description to what I've been feeling and the conclusions I've come to from all the reading and studying, that I've come across...as crazy as it still seems to me.

Is anyone else experiencing anything like this?

Thanks to anyone who took the time to read all of this, it's tricky to keep it all coherant!

Cheers/Peace

4 (edited by ontrack24 2007-01-08 20:26:01)

Re: Hello there! (First Post)

Hi, Disorganism,
I could definitely relate fairly well to the part about

Disorganism wrote:

would conclude that I have a definite sense of being manipulated and dominated by something that at the very least wants to keep me from growing as a positive human being. This 'something' is intelligent and separate from myself. It doesn't own or directly control me, but causes me to be be dulled or puts difficulty in my path when I need to do good. When I get close to figuring it out, or seeing it clearly, it uses intense fear to drive me back to sleep.

I have had sneaking suspicions of similar things going on in my life. I can't help but to see this in relation to all the talk about victim mentality and such... But what if such a mentality is created in men, unknowingly getting into a symbiotic relationship with some type of entity? I've had the experience of "trying and trying" but never really getting anywhere, other than with a snails pace, for several years. The victim mentality "meme" says that the one engaging in victimizing thought patterns, are all to blame - that the culprit is all oneself.
But even if that may seem a nice solution to the problem, in some ways, I really feel like you, too - that there's "something" interacting here, wishing to not "allow" me/us to grow to more of our full potential.
Now, those ascribing to the aforementioned theory (victimization), will start talking about projecting, blaming others, and not taking full responsibility for oneself in all ways. But what if that is all wrong - at least for such cases as yours and mine - that they essentially differ from the typical victim mind-pattern problems? And if it is, that for the most part leaves those suffering from such problems as ours, with no one to contact to get through these issues, at least as far as the apparatus of "the system" goes.

I don't have time to write more right now, but I'll check back in later. Your story mostly made sense to me, though I see we've also had quite different paths into these "fringe" topics, like some would call them.
Well, there's only one thing to do and that's to keep going and keep your head up, above water, and never let setbacks drag you down too much. So keep it up and good luck! big_smile

Re: Hello there! (First Post)

Welcome Disorganism!
Funny nick big_smile

Bye, Pictus

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Re: Hello there! (First Post)

Thanks for the replies!

I like my nick enough to have named my band after it, haha.

I hope I didn't give the impression that I'm wallowing or feeling like a helpless victim in what I wrote. It's tough to have so much to say, and to get it down in writing in a single post without drifting! I'm doing fine, I'm healthy and still growing as best as anyone can hope to, I think.

I guess it all relates to the idea of the Matrix, and of non-visible 'spiritual machinery' operating hidden in the background of our regular day to day lives. It seems apparent to me that something very large is happening in the world, and that there's a lot of evidence of some manipulation going on. When you read a lot of the conspiracy material, and couple it with a lot of what's written in the religious/spiritual writings concerning an outside influence interfering with humanity's path, it looks like a larger picture starts to come together.

For example:

- The Chemtrails, and the possible effects on stunting human health
- Suppressed technological breakthroughs (free energy, etc), such as the work of Nikola Tesla, particularly the EM effects on human conciousness and developments by our own governments in using it for 'mind control' applications (ie. Montaulk)
- All of the alien and abduction stories, sightings and reports
- The very apparent corruption in world leadership and people in elite positions(outright bald-faced evil in many cases)
- The unusual rapid advancement in technology (media) that seems to dull or mislead the unaware majority
- All of the historical and recent accounts of non-humans, and people's interactions with them

The article on the main page described a 'pyramid' system of entities feeding from people's energy, and farming us for resource. There was mention of people acting in collusion with these entities to keep it hidden, and keep it going. Now, this is either completely crazy and wrong, or there's actually something to it. If there's something to it, and one is aware enough to recognize at least part of it (esp. through personal experiences), then it can't be all-powerful and can be better resisted - at least to improve the condition/quality of one's life.

My experiences have at least led me to believe that to resist it is to enter into a bigger (and frightening) struggle, whereas to simply ignore it is to be a willing blind sheep...which infers a compliance or 'permission' to be subjected to it.

This seems like a pretty big deal to me!

Re: Hello there! (First Post)

OK, well now I'm a bit embarrassed...

I just read the rest of the articles on the Montalk.net homepage, and pretty much every one of my questions/concerns was directly addressed. I guess I am a newb.

I'm a little bit blown away, actually. I suppose I should have continued reading first, before making a long post!

I also realized my posts may have been seen as fitting into the patterns ascribed to 'agents' who are looking for attention, or to grab energy...!

Sorry if that's the impression I made!

Cheers