type of aliens and their origins

ah, forgot about these;

Lyrans
Vegans
Siruis

who/what types originate from these star systems ?

Zonabi,

I find this topic interesting.  There is a thread on this topic called "Alien Politics" that is currently in the "Aliens/Channeling" section. I'll post a message to it to bring it to the top.

Also , I think that the  following section from the C's transcripts may be relevant:

C's session 950924 pg. 3

A: In this part of your 3rd and 4th density universe, specifically your "galaxy" it is the region known as Orion that is the one and only indigenous home of human type beings... reflect on this! Indigenous home base, not sole locator.  What you are most in need of review of is the accurate profile of "alien" data.
Q: (RC) I thought that humans originated in Lyra and then a war broke out there and they ended up in Orion.
A: Lyra is not inhabited. There have been homes in all places, but some were/are transitory, and some are not. Pay attention to Orion! This is your ancestral home, and your eventual destination. Here is the absolutely accurate profile of Orion to follow: This is the most heavily populated region of your Milky Way galaxy! This is a region that extends across 3rd and 4th density space for a distance as vast as the distance between your locator and it.  There are 3,444 inhabited "worlds" in this region.  Some are planets as you know them.  Some are artificially constructed planetoids.  Some are floating space barges.  And some are "satellites."  There are primary homes, traveling stations and incubator laboratories all in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th densities.  There are overseer zones in 5th and 6th densities.  Approximately one half is STO and one half is STS.  Together, along with many other colonies, located elsewhere, this is called, in translation, Orion Federation.  Orions created grays in 5 varieties, as cybergenetic beings, and installed them on Zeta Reticult 1, 2, 3, and 4, as well as 2 planets orbiting Barnard's Star.  The Reptilians also inhabit 6 planets in the Orion region in 4th density, and are owned by Orion STS as slaves, and, in some cases, pets!!!  The name "Orion" is the actual native name, and was brought to earth directly.  Study the legend of the "god" of Orion for parallels.
Q: (L) Are the Orion STS the infamous red-headed Nordic aliens?
A: Yes, and all other humanoid combinations.

Session 950924 pg. 4
Q: (L) Did the Dogon come from Sirius?
A: All humanoid types originated in the Orion region, there are and have been and will continue to be literally millions of colonies.

I think that in any information source, there is the potential for disinformation.
Even if one is aware of disinformation, it is still possible to look for clues in the information.

If a source says "Pay attention to Orion" it could mean several things.
It could mean that Orion is relevent.  It could mean that they are trying to place attention to Orion and hide something else.  It could be an attempt to inspire respect for Orion.

With regard to Lyra, saying it's not inhabited could mean several things.  Perhaps, you are saying: "How can they say it's not inhabited, when I know from other sources that it is inhabited."

Or maybe you are saying, "How can they say anything about Lyra at all."  In other words, how can they know anything about Lyra.

This leads to considering channeling as an information source in general.  There are people who think that it is not possible/not a valid source of information.  I can understand that perspective.  Is that part of what you are saying with the Lyra comment, or perhaps I mis-interpret?

Exactly, there's no shortcut to knowledge. You just chew through material and spit out what doesn't taste right

Regarding whether constellation Lyra is inhabited or not, if the only thing we can go on is channelled information, then the best we can do is compare sources and see what fits, what doesn't, what is more consistent and credible, what better resonates with our intuition and so on.

I don't know about Lyrans, but grays and reptilians are already well established as legit in UFO literature via abductee testimony and medical evidence. Combined with intuition and personal experience, I don't doubt their existence. But I have never come across much info about the Lyrans and can't get an intuitive lock on them either.

Is there a primary source of info about the Lyrans? Like a book, website, author, etc....? By examining their material, one can get a sense of how objective or fluffy it is.

the main source for me understanding of Lyrans and their inhabitants comes from the Channel Lyssa Royal, who authored the book Prism of Lyra,  amongst others.

I have also examined her transcripts of channels and what they say to her, which is available at http://www.galactic-server.org/planet/lyssa-royal.html - but her official website is www.lyssaroyal.com  i think.

now. i guess i should say what ive heard, so we can compare notes;

Lyssa seems to channel Zeta Reticuli Consciousness as her primary source. and they say things quite different than the reptilians would want you to believe;

- the Zetas were not originally 'manufactured' by the Reptilians, but this doesnt mean that some Zetas are not under reptilians control.

- the Zetas came from an underground civilisation that hid underground from an Orion Empire planet, way back when. they fleed underground to escape the Orion control (hey, that kind of ties in with the first note...interesting) and to avoid the wars goin on surface. supposedly the planet blew itself up in some kind of nuclear blast, and most of the surface perished. after generations of time, the undergrounders started a new race, and they did away with their emotions because they thought this was the cause of all the trouble on the planet. hence their hive mind and robotic nature.

(note: notice that them going underground can equate several aspects of Zeta Greys: their loss of pigmentation in skin, their pupils dialated across the entire eye, to see in dark. etc. their small stature to fit in small cavernous systems... so on)

it is said when the planet 'blew up' it shifted thru a dimension and ended up in a new location, which turned out to be in the Zeta Reticuli star system. this is a bit sketchy... but understandable. maybe the survivors shifted to a new place.. i dunno.

- they claim Lyra was the cradle of homonid life forms in this corner of the universe, and from there came Vegans and others. let me explain;

- Lyssa tends to be really into the "integration" theme, where as polarities (which we are familiar with) try to merge. this usually ends in conflict, and she states this is what happened on Lyra; STO and STS couldn't get along- thus it is said the conflict was moved. i think it went to Vega. the move was hoping to settle the conflict, perhaps by giving them a new place so the polarities can stick to their own. Nope. conflict again. this time it was worse. Now, the Forces that Be decided to give the STS (who were the real dominator-types) their own corner of space to continue their ways, and this was Orion. the cradle of STS life. Reptilians are based here too, as well as some other, different forms of "Greys"

- She claims that the Zeta Greys became very advanced in genetics (cloning) and technologies... at the loss of their own emotions and personalities. it is said that they (Zetas) cried out for help on this, and the Forces that Be pointed them to Earth. the prefect place for them to re-learn their emotions and what it is to be an individual, instead of a group mind.

she also stresses the point that we are helping the Zetas as well as they are Helping us. i think she refers to technologies that have been seeded into our world by aliens. also refers to how Aliens (greys) are advancing the human race faster thru genetic tampering and DNA manipulations thru abductions etc.

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its all quite interesting, her book The Prism of Lyra - it starts off by explaining what is called "the dimensional infusion" where all creation was born... and it fits what some of you have said ;

that the One (the One Spirit, "God" or whoever) at first was Whole, but wondered what it be like to be seperated (fragmented) into pieces. he did fragment portions of himself (or herself, or itself) to see if the pieces would remember their whole and be able to re-integrate back into one. (sounds like awakening and returning to the One spirit, right?)

[note; compare this to what is said in the book "Nothing in this Book is True, But it is Exactly How Things Are" by Bob Frissel-

he states that when the One fragmented, it created the 3 physical dimensions that we know so very well;

the One Spirit, in its place, fragmented. from here he could have only gone 6 ways;

-forward
-backward
-left
-right
-upward
-downward

this is what created the axis for 3d life, the 3 dimensions.

this also has to do with Sacred Geometry.]

just some short notes on what ive learned, i hope to get some feedback on all of this, and also to learn what you all know regarding this.

i do also agree with montalk in that Reptilians are Very Factual and Known throughout history, we can establish that they exist for sure- but what im saying is that they might be lying in saying there was no life on Lyra, and that they created the Greys....
they want people to believe they are superior, thats my feeling inside.

I am going to look thru the link posted "Blue Planet" then i will get back to this discussion.

thanks
z