Topic: Anyone read "Behold a Pale Horse"

Has anyone here read this particular book? If you have read this book, what were your impressions of it?

There is no such thing as a stupid question, just stupid people who ask them.

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Yup, good starter book. I gave my copy away but not sorry I did, this person was open for the info.

Icke has a lot more, it seems a good idea to explore many different knowledge sources to get a better grip as to what is really going on. 

Like so many of us say, "knowledge protects"-so many books, so little time!

If there is no time
      Then you have time for everything.
   You're never in a hurry.
That's true freedom.

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I thought Cooper seemed sincere in his words -- if not obsessively idealistic.  Some interesting research to read, and some to skim over.  It's more of a classic in conspiracy literature than a concisely documented source.

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The Wm. Cooper book? It was my first exposure to the protocols of the elders of sion (zion), and for that alone, I value the book. There was a LOT of stuff I'd never heard, but was later substantiated. I always thought, though, that the book needed editing (badly). Cooper assembled and wrote and produced the book himself. I saw it as a labor of love And a labor of desperation. Amateurish? Sure. But in the time since its release, it has become a landmark. I think that it really opened up a lot of people to Conspiracy Fact.

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I just happened to come upon a real audio interview with Bill Cooper. I was gratified to find that he sounded very normal, not the ranting lunatic I half expected. Worth a listen.

http://www.nardwuar.com/vs/william_cooper/

PS  Are you aware that Cooper was shot to death by the "authorities" not long ago?

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I may have to revisit "Behold a Pale Horse". I read it some years ago and it was indeed an introduction of sorts. I remember mostly 'not wanting to believe' a lot of it's material and the writing style seemed a little shaky, but it did have the effect of opening avenues of consideration. Any more info on how he was killed?

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http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/file … 110601.htm

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yes, this book is a great source, it started me off as well.

did u know this is the main book that opens people up to conspiracy theories, and that it is the most popular book suggested by "word of mouth" ?

this book is a huge compilation, its not even a book, thus the reading does turn out choppy, but it is good factual reading.

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yes, i heard he was shot down;

but did you notice this; the report make it seem like Cooper was dashing away and evading cops, yet HE IS MISSING ONE OF HIS LEGS, they "forget" to mention this. he lost a leg in war, i believe.
and the reason for them trying to arrest him was bullshit also.

but he left his mark, he sure did

i am always re-read this book everyday, i just open it to a random page and read it again, and it boggles my mind every time. like if im reading it for the first time. the information is critical. the documents are superb in information (sadly not in quality)

one question; what do u guys see out of the Protocols of the Wise Men of Scion ? i dont even like that part of the book, its seems like a bunch of hogwash to me, like made up (not that the ideals are made up, but the writing seems to be a 'front' )

whats so big about it ?

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are there any other parts of this book anyone wants to discuss ?

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

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The protocols are the blueprint for much that came along over the past two centuries. I view them as a major key to unlocking the "mysteries" of secret societies, and indeed, much of history. Maybe the single most valuable document in the pursuit of the understanding of hidden political and social realities.
You're correct in thinking they seem like a front. They were written in a way that makes them appear to have been written by Jews. While some Jews may have been involved, it goes much further than a racial thing.
I find reading them to be quite chilling, especially when they speak of their "king despot" to be installed at the fruition of their plans.
Think about it. The protocols are provably a few hundred years old. The intent to "create a filthy and abominable literature", and to distract the "goyim" with all kinds of competitions, to control the gold. These have come into existence in the time since the protocols' discovery. The predictive elements of the protocols cannot be ignored, any more than Albert Pike's "predictions" of three world wars (two of which happened right on schedule). The protocols were written by the entities who had the power to accomplish these things, and did so.

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All this talk about Cooper lately got my curiosity up just now so went rummaging for the old cooper tape of him in Sedona in 1989.  Amazing it is still floating around with all the things to come and go thru this place since then and things that had become animal chew toys etc over the years (barf tables, you get the idea)_…and my mindset when I first saw the tape…the thing sticking most was the missing minutes of the macgruder tape where it shows how kennedy was shot by the driver…

So popped the tape in, only watching a few min to see if it even still works…so far so good.  Will watch it tonight with thook and if the tape is viewable then can try and hook up to another vhs we have, see if that works, and make a copy.  Will be interesting to “see“? the tape after all these years.  I do remember when I saw the tape I was stuck by his common nature, his real person feel.  I was very sad when I learned he had been murdered…

If all goes well, offer, one copy to someone on the list who will copy it for another on the list, till it is passed around to anyone who wants to see it.  Time restraints prohibit making lots of copies and mailing…

Will let you know how the viewing goes, so let’s be cautious till we see if the whole thing will view.  This tape sitting around for about 14 years…will post late tonight after we view it.

It's all mind over matter. If you don't mind it doesn't matter...

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Just in time, palulukon. I've heard that the life of a VHS tape is around 15 years.

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yikes, copy making time...

It's all mind over matter. If you don't mind it doesn't matter...

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Fast forwarded to see if the tape could handle it…end of tape has Cleopatra with taylor and burton…earlier in the tape the news, so this tape age is 1992…took snippets of cooper and all seems to be okay.  Eerie at the end where it said if you want a copy of this tape mail to william cooper and his addy…just eerie.  This is not a high quality recording as my copy is a copy of a copy…the woman that gave it to me in 92 is interestingly enough working at the flower shop immediately next door to the supplement store thook works at on weekends…and her last name is pancake.  No conspiracy theroy there, just a little background.  I remember when she gave the tape to me, it was in relation to my searching for answers about ships etc…and she worked at the local co op, when it was still  a co op in practice as now it is only in name…she told me about cooper and they were definitely here but they were not the friendly search and reconnaissance team I was thinking they were…which is why she gave me a copy of the tape. 

So will let you know the review of the viewing…realizing this is something maybe no one wants and just has archive interest…however, we are interested to view it.

It's all mind over matter. If you don't mind it doesn't matter...

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im interested in acquiring a copy myself, and i will help out with reproduction and spreading if needed.

let me know. ive been wanting to see some of these films.

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

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William Cooper had sent his wife and children out of the country for their own safety a few years before he was murdered.  When you see what a "family man" he was you realize how tremendously hard that must have been for him, to send them off and stay behind.  I was so moved last night, so profoundly saddened…but will have to write a review later as there is much to do on “town day“?.  Thook was so exhausted he fell asleep before seeing the whole tape so when he finishes it will write his review later.  For sure anyone who thinks he was some crackpot acting off the wall…you must see this tape.  Knowing that he has now been murdered and his references to his on own removal by the govt…and his obvious LOVE for the american people and the constitution and his belief in moral principles…well…

More later, tape is intact although not high quality, but not terrible also, as it was a copy hand me down when I got it…something he encouraged…if you have any information he put out he says copy it and your friends copy it and give it freely.

And his explanation of the alien govt thing…well, more later…I do hope we can successfully get this circulated among the group of us that want to see it as I will be interested in hearing others reactions…this country does not deserve a William Cooper...


http://www.davidicke.net/emagazine/vol2 … ooper.html

In March of 1999, Cooper William Sent his family out of the United States for their security. He lived and worked alone with his two dogs, one rooster, and one chicken.

>From his Website:
"...God bless my family. I love my wife & children more than life itself. Everything I do is for the future of all my children. They may not understand why I have sacrificed so much, why I am so dedicated to this work; but someday they will. I want them to know they are the most important People in my life, and how very, very much I love them..." - William Cooper


http://www.americansovereign.com/news/2 … cooper.htm

Reports indicate that sometime close to midnight, Cooper was lured from his home by plainclothes officers who were making loud noises down the street. After driving down the hill and speaking with the offenders, Cooper, realizing that he had been hoodwinked, attempted to return to his home but was suddenly blocked from access by a previously hidden patrol car. In the ensuing shootout in which he shot an officer in the head, Cooper was fatally shot.
The Eagar police department and Apache County sheriff’s office were apparently working together. They claimed that they went to his house to serve 3 felony warrants, pertaining to allegations that Cooper had been brandishing semi-automatic weapons in public and threatening people. The alleged complainant’s identity remains anonymous.
It is murder precisely because Due Process of Law was circumvented.
Warrants must always be served during daylight hours so that the accused party can immediately be taken to a magistrate (Anderson, Treatise on Sheriffs, Coroners and Constables, Vol. 1, S. 131, p. 126). Otherwise, the entire process violates the Law.
Then there is the matter of warrants being issued based on anonymous complaints, which is another clear violation of Law, which requires a minimum of two independent allegations in order to proceed. Anonymous accusations are the tool of Nazi fascist pigs in their pursuit of tyranny. Those who shot William Cooper and those who ordered them to harass this Patriot, and those who supported, either by action or inaction, the activities of these “official“? lawbreakers, are guilty of treason, because they swore an oath to uphold the Law, then failed to do so.

It's all mind over matter. If you don't mind it doesn't matter...