Topic: Strange way to send a message

Never had anything like this happen before.  Quick background.  When I close my eyes, even in the darkest of darkness, my visual field is not completely black.  Same with my eyes open in the dark.  There is always some ambient light in my visual field.  I'm sure others know what I mean.

Anyway, I'm napping yesterday off and on.  Not really hard sleeping.  Just resting and snoozing.  At one point I see a "4" imprinted on my visual field (eyes closed).  The "4" is black whereas the field is not quite black.  It was not a dream "4" or a visual "4" in any way.  It was like a section of my 'not quite black' visual field was replaced with the 4.  Pretty cool since I've never had anything happen like that before.

I tried to do a visual representation.  Not exact but close enough when taken with the above description.

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So a few minutes later I'm still dozing off and on.  And I see something else in my visual field just as the "4" had appeared.

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8603/untitled2tk4.gif

I'm like whoa.  What the heezy?!  Ok, a "4" ... meh ... that's cool.  But then a "see"?

Ok, so first thought of course was "forsee".  But then I remembered how I'm having a large increase in visual artifacts.  These started many months back.  They started with just a pinpoint of light that disappeared almost immediately.  Then after awhile the light stayed a few seconds longer.  Then more time passed and the pinpoint (say a pixel) become 4 pixels big.  More time, and there was a line.  Further along and there were a few pinpoints at one time.  Now, it's sometimes like a minature light show.  And this is with eyes closed or not.  But now the lights come maybe 10-20 at a time.  Flickering on and off.  Sometimes staying on for 5-7 seconds.

Anyway, I thought...   "4.  see?"

Anyone else ever get this type of thing?

2 (edited by Free_Your_Mind 2006-12-29 22:05:55)

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I've had the same thing happen to me, the "pinpoint of light" becoming a solid white "V" though. It hasn't re-occured in such a bold way like it did that time, but if I try I can see pin-points of light that I am experimenting on, trying to morph it, change or move it etc.

Now I'm wondering if it is a method to inhibit lucid dreaming or states of conciuosness as Zejith and MorningSun have commented.

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Straight on with the eyelid-light simulation! I've never gotten words, but distinct faces of people never seen before. That kind of thing keeps me from flowing into lucid dreaming... it is the "what the hell! cool!" kind of break in conciousness that snaps me back to waking..

They come out like that, between more not-blackness and less, and get to where they have the IDEA of coloring... it's hard to explain, but you've probably encountered it. Trying to drift into lucid dreaming by phosphene-watching usually ends up like that for me. neutral

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If you've had your eyes checked & everything's OK then it looks like some kind of almost dream/low bandwidth transmission (maybe because you're still awake) from your subconscious. What does "4see" mean in your life now?

We're all butterflies flapping our wings and changing the world.

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starling wrote:

... it looks like some kind of almost dream/low bandwidth transmission ... from your subconscious.

Points of light flashing, and actual letters and numbers appearing?   I disagree.   It seems quite artificial to me ... probably the application of some kind of technology.   Further, I've had a couple of instances of "stuff" happening while I was waking up from sleep which was far more enigmatic and advanced ... maybe "spiritual" but quite likely ET manipulation as well, and so that leads me to believe that this cruder means of communication either has its origins with a) humans or b) a different ET group than the one that was involved in my experiences and those of a few others I know.

Zejith_Themis wrote:

Straight on with the eyelid-light simulation! I've never gotten words, but distinct faces of people never seen before. That kind of thing keeps me from flowing into lucid dreaming... it is the "what the hell! cool!" kind of break in conciousness that snaps me back to waking..

Yeah ... I wonder if maybe that's the point.   Maybe a part of whatever is being done here is to purposely prevent
you from lucid dreaming, or acquiring other states of consciousness / awareness that could pose a threat to them somehow. 

"4see" obviously means "foresee." These twilight-zone communications often involve psychic premonitions, and we now know beyond any shadow of a doubt that one of the prime MO's of these critters  is to masquerade as spiritual beings or phenomena, and con people into doing their bidding, one way or another, knowingly or unknowingly.    So again, back to discernment -- that's paramount.

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Zejith, yea I get those faces somewhat often.  Sometimes they jump straight at me.  I hope they aren't real people.  I'm certainly not trying to disturb anyone.

Starling, my eyes are ok.  The visual artifacts only occur when I'm concentrating on higher thought patterns.  I've kept an objective watch on them over about a year now to ensure that they didn't just occur randomly.  I make it a practice to be as objective as possible so I don't end up looking for things to attach to.

To remain balanced I have to say that it could just be subconscious stuff of a random nature.  The other side says that the visual artifacts are 4th density bleed-through that is increasing.  From that perspective "4see" would mean "this increase you are conscious of is 4th density, see?".

I will always keep a firm foot on both sides of any experience to ensure I keep my balance.  Until I know what's happening or not happening I cannot subscribe firm conclusions to any of it.

7 (edited by z3n3rg 2006-12-29 14:46:30)

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Morningsun,  I have thought the very same thoughts.  Recently though, I have changed these thoughts somewhat.

If these things are Milab or ET related then that's fine.  I will always seek to protect myself from such things but they do not bother me as much anymore.  I know my agenda is to seek the highest path I can.  Therefore, whatever they throw at me will not prevent my spiritual advancement, period.  Nor will they deter me (for too long) with any of the machinations.  In fact, whenever I see what looks like artificial interference it emboldens me to work harder.  The energy they expend actually propels me forward.  The dark does indeed help the light to advance.  So I am actually thankful in some way for their interference.  If my life had been all peaches and cream I may have never woken up and got as far as I have.

It seems to me that they may have been able to sever the link between the physical and ethereal at a personal level.  Whereas, abilities one should have are not available for use.  This, if true, does annoy me some.  But it also makes it so I concentrate more on the soul advancement.  Whereas, those with these abilities are fully concentrating on astral/energy/ethereal realms and situations, which are still physical, I am pushed to go beyond those and work on the integration of wisdom and the acceptance, understanding, and appreciation for all that IS.

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I'm fairly certain it doesn't mean "foresee".  The reason is I never get prophetic dreams or visions.  No alien invasion dreams or cataclysmic apocalypse senarios.  No fighting giant robots or running from new world orders.  My dreams are always rather mundane.  Mostly stuff like walking around the mall trying to find some decent coffee.  Finding myself in mazes looking to get back home.  Playing different puzzle games like the one the other night where I was in some office looking for clues to something.

9 (edited by Sowelu 2006-12-29 16:11:18)

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Had you considered numerological values? If all is One then you are the creator of the experience. But regardless of the source of a message, the message itself has some inherent vibrational value. Rather than focusing on the messenger, perhaps simply focus on any value you can extract from the "message". Whatever you do with what comes to you serves your own growth anyway. If you see demons and attackers at every turn, there's something to learn from that. If you see a benign higher self guiding you lovingly, there's comfort and plenty to go on there, too.

So perhaps you can choose to be the receiver of this event in a meaningful way according to you, the Creator of your life. Consider the possibility that you have far more awareness at another level of Self, and it's speaking to you when you're available and open to it. 4 is an interesting number. It represents the heart, for instance, in this mass consciousness Jung tapped. It is the number of the 4th chakra, in that meme of the paradigm. The 4th ray is the one that indicates harmonizing through chaos, which is essentially what the path of the heart is all about. The color that corresponds to the number 4 is green, a healing, nourishing/nurturing vibration in the spectrum (look at nature).

It could be a symbol representing the next dimension beyond 3D, a step toward limitless. It might represent time or timelessness. Or that unseen realm that we encounter all the time but don't know how to fit into our 3D mindset such as dreams, inspirations, "feeling" knowings rather than intellectually permeating ideas.

There's a wide open field of possibilities to explore for why you would receive this experience. To immediately move toward fear-based concepts indicates a closing off of the all, a narrowing in on one option above all others, and not a very life-enhancing one at that.

Just some ideas. We each have our own inner sense of these things, I thought I'd offer mine. Life, no matter what life it is, speaks to us all the time everywhere, in everthing. In my own heart I know that all life is serving our good. I realize others can't get there for various reasons, but it's a way of facing life that opens so many avenues of awareness growth possibility, rather than the one old path of protect, protect, protect and fight, fight, fight.

There are some things that are constant or consistent and obvious all the time in nature. For me, 4 is inherent nature, and it's everywhere. For another it could indicate "the box", perhaps, and the struggle to get outside it. But again for me, that would also be inherent nature, in motion. Not a negative at all.

I've had a few experiences like you described and for me, I often open inward with curiosity in the moment of seeing such things. Typically a slew of associations impinges on my awareness, often nothing clear, but always a general "tone" of meaning is there as a common thread. Growing one's own symbolic perception is definitely helpful. Eventually you develop an inner resource to draw on no matter what comes your way. After all, manifested life is symbolic. Nothing we see is the thing itself, it's just a symbol representing that thing. The more "clicking" inner sense we make of the symbols we encounter along our way, the more cohesive our outer view of life becomes. We learn to feel our way, rather than just think our way, through it all.

Incidentally, in my own sense of things, all I just wrote up there is learning to SEE. And that was your second message, no? Cool. cool

Take or toss, of course.
Sowelu

"The most important decision you have to make is whether you live in a hostile or friendly universe."
~ Albert Einstein

The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes, but in having new eyes. ~Marcel Proust

The evolution of humanity is an evolution of the heart. The path is through the heart.

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rather than the one old path of protect, protect, protect and fight, fight, fight.

Exactly.  If God is for you, who can be against you?  Like that little thing I heard awhile back.  I suffer from inverse paranoia.  I have the feeling that the whole world is out to help me.

Thanks for the thoughts on numerological significance.  Hadn't thought of that.  To be honest the incident didn't hold much attention or seem to be much more than "look, things are changing".  Which I already know.  But to use the experience to have a conversation that brings on other people's perspectives is far more valuable than the experience itself.

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z3n3rg wrote:

But to use the experience to have a conversation that brings on other people's perspectives is far more valuable than the experience itself.

And for that opening, many thanks. I'm enjoying a sort of blossoming in myself here recently, and I keep finding doors that others invite me to walk through. Doing so is fun, while I also still encounter a few phantoms, but its feeling wholly worth it.

Ta! smile

"The most important decision you have to make is whether you live in a hostile or friendly universe."
~ Albert Einstein

The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes, but in having new eyes. ~Marcel Proust

The evolution of humanity is an evolution of the heart. The path is through the heart.

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http://www.mamielougross.org/number%204.gif



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/frozenpretti/windows%20to%20the%20soul/ges.jpg


Four
6639 = 24 / 6

See
155 = 11

For See
669 155 = 32 / 5

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13 (edited by Zejith_Themis 2006-12-30 04:48:28)

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SiriArc - - was that pythagorean?
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New Aeon English Qabalah:

See= 5+25+25 = 55= 10

4 = 4

Four = 18+7+17+12 = 54 = 9

for = 18+17+12 = 37 = 10
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Greek Qabalah: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~mclennan/BA/Isopsephia.html

A nice, if somewhat buggy, calculator for numerology - greek - hebrew - enochian - NAEQ: http://www.mysticalinternet.com/software/cag.htm

More Programs : http://www.templex.org/programs.htm

**edit**
This wasn't  exactly on topic, my apologies, but seeing as you're checking words.

The GemCalc (v.1.65) program linked above has a couple problems:

1) the hebrew keypad is not synched to the hebrew-letter-conversion database. Key "Ayin" gives O, value of "O" attributed to Vav. Ayin must be typed manually and is string "aa". To write "Aleph-Aleph" leave a space between the two "a"s, even if in the middle of your word.

2) the greek keypad produces the string "iot" insatead of "iota" and so all iotas are uncounted, as "iot" isn't in the table. Luckily Iota enumerates 10 so it's easy to correct your results by counting your jots.

Love is the law, love under will.
   
     Zejith Themis
      .:420-510:.
    FIAT IUSTITIA
    RUAT COELUM

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Zejith_Themis

.......was that pythagorean?

response = same as last tyme ya beed ta astin’

123456789
abcdefghi.......

11   23   11

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Ya'll just lost me.  I get the code well enough (1-9, A-I).  What's the outcome mean though?