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Re: Frickin' Reiki People Still *** Me Off

LipstickMystic, I've posted about and recommended QT (Quantum Touch, website www.quantumtouch.com ) and have done individual healings (hands-on and remote) and group sessions. I haven't seen any cases of QT causing any negative effects, detox reactions or entity obsessions. There are no "initiations" in QT (the basic technique is so simple you really can learn it from the book, though the class is useful). Generally, I base my opinion of QT on the old agage "you can judge a tree by it's fruits" and QT seems to be OK. But... I got the advanced DVD and halfway through, after some chakra spinning and color meditations, they start talking about a symbol called "u-nan". OK, now I feel cautious.

I emailed you about a possible way to test QT. I understand that you can't judge a system by the way it makes you feel; running the energy using any method will make you feel "blissed out". But I would like to know that I'm actually helping people, not exposing them (and myself!) to some possible long term horrible side effect.

We're all butterflies flapping our wings and changing the world.

Re: Frickin' Reiki People Still *** Me Off

Fair enough.  I think you might be on to something with the mix of origin of symbols being an issue in this.  I've heard similar warnings with not mixing Yoga breathing exercises or postures with T'ai Chi breathing exercises or postures.  I'm not a visual person, I don't draw or visualize the symbol the way many people do.  I recite the word ( I took some Japanese language classes in school, and feel a pleasant connection with the flow of the language) out loud or in my head until I feel a certain harmonic energy to the word. Maybe that's one of those "filters" at work, in technique, one of the things that most students rushed through I and II in a single weekend haven't had the time to properly develop.  wink  Perhaps I was lucky enough to get a good teacher. She insists that people take at a minimum of 21 days of daily self healing before moving on to the next level.

I dunno. At what point am I allowed to be critical of something and say I have grave concerns about something?  Is it after one person dies after receiving the technique?  Two? Ten?  I have ten cases of death that I can directly trace to occurring after receiving Reiki treatment.  And I have dozens more of SUSPICIOUS deaths that SEEM to be associated with Reiki but don't have such a clean "cause/effect" that can be "objectively" traced.

And then there are dozens of cases of other health crises people have experienced after receiving Reiki that did NOT behave as typical "detox" or "healing crises" situations -- I'm talking flatlining, heart attack, stroke, mental or nervous breakdown, psychotic episodes, and more.  This is culled from all the cases I've been gathering notes on over the years from a) my own healing practice as an intuitive counsellor, which put me in direct orbit with many Reiki practitioners and their patients b) corroborative experiences of other professional healers and c) cases and communications gathered from healers and holistic people I don't personally know that well from all over the world, but 90% of these folks I have been able to check out in terms of their credentials and so forth as being "legit" and knowing what they are talking about.

Dozens of cases, probably more like over a hundred, that seem to provide very STRONG negative evidence of Reiki being the DIRECT cause of some very bad stuff. 

At what point, then, am I allowed to be critical and continue my "blanket accusations?"  What further research must I do?  How many more people have to die?

Just let me know.

What I mean in "blanket accusation" is that your numbers of "bad" incidents just seems small in comparison to the amount of reiki being done.  There's something like 39 or 40 different branches of reiki up there (lets say 40, just for the round number) If each of those branches only had 5 "professionally" practicing members, you'd have 200 practicing members total.  How many clients do you have for your practice?  Multiply that by 200.  I'll use my own number of 5 for people I work on regularly (obviously not enough to make a career out of, but I think I'm still too young and inexperienced myself to move in that direction at this time in my life).  That's 1000 clients.  "Dozens" and "hundreds" of cases that have "bad" effects just seems kind of a small percentage to me out of a thousand clients.  If we add in people who do reiki non-professionally in the .... hundreds of thousands?....  we get a lot more reiki being done to make the statistical significance of "dozens" and "hundreds" of cases of "bad" stuff even lower.

Sometimes, people just die. That's a part of life.  Could reiki have been a factor in it?  Sure!  I don't know the case studies... were any of instances where the person was ready to "transition" anyway, like old age, or seriously injured? Was that even mentioned as a factor? What qualifies a person for making that assessment? I know the system I use (which isn't mentioned above)  states very blatantly a warning that reiki can instigate death in the elderly, terminaly ill, seriously injured or other persons ready to "transition".  Sometimes, for some people,  death is a "better" alternative than life. 

Reiki doesn't work for you. That happens.  I've refused to do reiki on people who have asked me for it, because their/my higher self says no.  Some of these problems could be from a practicioner being less discerning. It hasn't worked out in the general 3D perception of "good" for some other people.  Between the two of us we have listed a  number of factors that could be the cause of that.  But again we're talking about hundreds of cases out of hundreds of thousands of reiki sessions, 0.1%.  It just doesn't seem that there are enough "bad" cases to justify saying that the whole system, in whatever of the 40+ forms, is tainted.  There is enough to say that there should be some more discipline and discernment from the practicioners and even more importantly, from the teachers, and that people should be cautious and discerning.  But let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

So you have the Sanskrit critters (these are a very distinguishable group of entities; I see them in the energy fields of every person I've known who either received a Reiki treatment or who has been initiated into Reiki -- they tend to hang out and try to convince folks that they are "spiritual guides."

I can't speak for your experience. I can relate to it in a way.  Like I said, I am not a visual person. I just don't perceive the various energies that way when I am in a sober state of mind. Instead,   I feel a "tone" or "pitch". But regardless, I am aware of these "critters", though my "sensual" and therefore "conceptual" interpretation of "them" is very different. To me "they" feel a "lower" consciousness than that of the higher selves, but not something that I would consider malign or evil, simply ignorant in comparison. I was not aware that this consciousness traveled to people that are being worked on as well as initiated. I can see how that would be disconcerting, especially for someone who does have a consistent negative reaction to reiki. I will have to think on this more, take what limited visualization skills I have and find out if I can see them your way, but without the allergic reaction.  Maybe a different perspective can give us both further insight.  Have you spoken with others who sense and interpret energy visually about them?

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Re: Frickin' Reiki People Still *** Me Off

Poopers, I had written a long reply earlier and the Internet was hungry and ate it smile

To be brief,  Starling, I share your concerns about suddenly adding in a symbol when you're doing the Quantum Touch technique. I'd be wary of using any such "filters" to an otherwise cool-sounding technique. Some people will definitely be incompatible/out of resonance the minute you start using a symbol or letter as part of what you are conveying to them. Best to keep things in as pure a form as possible, as unfiltered energy, I would guess.

Celephais,

Interesting that you say you're not so visually attuned -- that you're more into conveying pure vibration or "tone" with your work. I like that ! I think that will keep your work very clean and pure, bypassing all of those constructs that have come to be associated with all forms of languages and symbols and just getting right into pure energy. I'd bet money that that's what distinguishes your work from others who have studied Reiki - you're not inscribing symbols over people, it sounds like, neither are you mentally hooking into the Reiki symbols in your work. You sound like you're simply focusing on the qualities associated with each symbol like power, love, etc and accessing those pretty directly.  Maybe this is what creates the divide between people who have good experiences and people who don't. It also sounds like you had a very clued in teacher who was responsive to her students and helped them along with their learning curve, very important.

Still, this seemed to raise some red flags for me --

Celephais wrote:

I know the system I use (which isn't mentioned above)  states very blatantly a warning that reiki can instigate death in the elderly, terminaly ill, seriously injured or other persons ready to "transition".

See there's a big difference between death as a choice that a person makes from a Higher Self perspective -- which could be going on when someone is suddenly blasted with really high vibrational energy and thus decides to leave their physical body for good -- and death as a by product of massive psychic attack by negs, which is what I've witnessed and others have witnessed as a byproduct of some Reiki treatments. I'd say the two things are different and that caution is indicated because of this.

Have you spoken with others who sense and interpret energy visually about them?

Yes, the energy sensitives and clairvoyants who are wired "similarly" to me in terms of their abilities are confirming that they see and sense these weird, not so nice, critters associated with the Sanksrit letters in particular, and with Reiki practice in general.  I think the Sanksrit is the problem because I've sensed these same negative entities around Tibetan Buddhism and those who teach/practice it.  Not so much the Japanese letters or Kanji.  Perhaps it's the mixture that is dangerous -- blending the Sanksrit and the Japanese together in such a funky blend.

All good points to ponder!  And I'm so glad that you are a discerning, careful person who obviously has real talents and skills.  Keep on with what you're doing and just keep your eyes open, I'd say. I think the more that all healing practices can move towards pure vibrational healing vs. adding in letters or human-created stuff, the better, and it sounds like you are focused on doing very pure work.

LipstickMystic aka Jennifer