31 (edited by Natural Mystic 2006-11-20 21:23:05)

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I was doing meditation and the Tibeatian yoga on and off for 3 years now, and it has helped me in various ways, in terms of increased energy, flexibility and psychic aspects as well.  Although at this point, I feel that is it best for an individual to experience hers or his creativity and create new techniques which work best for themselves.  I myself have been doing that via visualization and imagination, and it works wonders.  And you can name your own techniques on top of that and have fun with it!  It's much like developing your own martial arts techniques.

For myself these days, I don't have the drive to practice a specific meditation, although I will sit quietly at times as it is peaceful.  And yoga benifits my flexibility, although I am now discovering new ways to increase my strength and flexibility.

"Beyond the stars a new world awaits me now" - Wintersun

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I too have been developing my own practices and techniques based on intuition and guidance.
I am currently using my own versions of techniques that I've picked up over the years and I aswell have lost the drive to sit and practice a certain form of meditation.  I just sit or lie down and use visualization techniques sometimes.  Other times just sit and still my mind as i feel a cool breeze up my spine...revitalizing!

I lived in Asia for over three years and practiced a few martial arts - TaeKwonDo/Hapkido aswell as some medititive techniques: Sahaja yoga and JeungSanDo... while I appreciate some of the protective mantras and energy raising Tai Chi technieques that I learned through JeungSanDo there was still an element of control/don't do this the wrong way attitude that really turned me off and even my teacher seemed consumed with this attitude that eventually led to me parting ways and practicing the techniques how i saw fit.  It was interesting because part of their philosopy mentioned something called Gae-Byuk, in english it means 'great opening' and it spoke of the time period where we would transition into Cosmic Autumn. It was written that it would be a time of great choas, fire from the sky and wall of water from the sea... to top it off, they believed that a great disease would originate in South Korea and decimate the human population - only the practitioners would be safe if they practiced well.  !!! That was when my alarm bells started going off and I really tried to objective consider it all.  Also at the time, I was very into the Mayan Factor and the whole 2012 thing.  They both meshed together well until I started realizing how strangely congruent this obscure asian philosophy was with the whole western new age movement... a little too conincidental ...  So, reading this thread sort of helps put it all into perspective.   I've definately sensed a waking up of sorts happening personally and within my closest circle of friends.  And, personally, it feels like I don't have to wait  nearly so long to see my intentions turn into something tangible... just an observation though!

en

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Just going to add some of my observations here, hope they help someone's understanding.

75% of the people I try to contact in an attempt to have some perspective on spiritual activities (of any kind) have come off to my intuition as being thoughtful and bright people who seem to be living a personal path that they really WANT to share with others in the same way that say your 4 year old neice really wants to share her finger painting with you and how happy she is about it. Things like that tend to turn me off.

Most of the intelligent ones I did interact with are really not that farther from the same contextual reality as myself. IE - they've experienced a lot, and they try to figure things out, but really my own perspective is just as enlightening.. to someone who isn't me. So I almost wonder if what we're missing within the experiential fields of most of the esoteric stuff discussed above and in our own lives is simply from a lack of cultural backdrop for such things, or perhaps the stagnation of society in general simply makes anything new look appealing and draws upon the hope within the spirit to create a sort of faux-reality surrounding said things (An experiential bubble, which everyone experiences within regular life in the form of having diferent experiences from one another, ie, subjective experience). I often wonder if my own investigations and experiences are simply that, a sort of over-extended desire to find something meaningful outside of my experiential everyday life in order to 'escape' from the world that I know. Which wouldn't be too far off.. I have a lot of escapism tendancies.

Thanks for the info on Eraserhead Druid. now I'm going to have to watch it myself (even if it does break my heart) ^_^

My own experience with TM has always been.. it puts me to sleep. It tunes me out, and while I do actually have a few moments of greater lucidity, they soon pass into a sort of comatose state where I'm not even sure why I bothered to try when I eventually stop.

Honestly, the only thing in my life that ever makes me feel alive and aware tends to be... stress. Sleep Deprevation tends to put me into a more lucid state for the time between skipping the first sleep cycle calling and crashing out on a lack of rest. Pain: There's a particularly painful headache I get from time to time centered on the front/right side of my head that, when it happens, while I'm constantly searching for relief because it really is unbearable, I am during that time hyper aware of my surroundings in a way that I just can't mimic when I'm fine. Substances: some substances increase my awareness for short periods of time including: Yerba Matte, Wormwood, though they come with a cost. And I can't help but wonder if the only thing that REALLY is increasing my awarenss is adrenaline release.

At which point I almost have to wonder: What is it that we're really trying to accomplish, us seekers of the esoteric truths? Is it ourselves? Is it god? Is it the desire to understand, something most people have if not at least during their childhood if the drive isn't sucked out of them by their environement, or is it nothing more than another type of vanity creeping into the intellectual mind?

On a positive note: +

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Osmedirez, I am looking at your 'Pope-Palpatine' Avatar and it makes me ask:
are you interested in learning about Jesuits-Vatican connexions to the new world order, Islam, nazis, etc.?
If you are, check these sites:
Vatican Assassins
Tackling the Tough Topics
The Arctic Beacon
Spiritually Smart
this forum: http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/
etc.

I have been reading about this lesser known connexion for only three weeks and I was astonished at my own ignorance of this Jesuit connexion.  Steiner talked about this many many times. It was right there in my face all along and I oversaw it for so long!

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Could I get the URLs for those sites directly? I'd google them but I really don't want to sift through the google detritus that comes up in searches for words as general as that. ^_-

I've checked out the forum a bit, I'll look into more of it later, thanks for the hook ups! (link the world, man!) ^_^ </end cheese>

36 (edited by zenden 2006-11-30 17:23:54)

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holy jesuit!   u guys gotta go to michael tsarion's site, quite the researcher

druid--this info is right up ur alley, and also i have wanted to say something to u and have felt bad about it for WEEKS

it was really brave of you, and quite risky for u, to have shared that info with us about the monk at  the monastery that knew alot of secrets and told u and ur friend about them, all quite serendipitously.  i wanted to say that that was very interesting, and must have been very scary.  thanks for sharing that and it struck me when i read it that u were too at risk that nite, in those days, and that was really an adventure and a half.  wow

i know u said it helped to catapult u on "ur road" and i can certainly see why.  thanks for sharing that again, really almost 007 stuff.  u really are a learned hard-working scholar and a true student of the esoteric at its finest.  i really have to think when i read ur posts and concentrate.  u know every detail and its amazing.

so i digressed there a minute, but the info on this site actually could follow on another thread i saw on general discussion a few minutes ago

i think u will be very busy there for awhile, theres massive info, pics, illustrations

unreal.  links jesuits with the cult of aton, pure luceriferian, using the jews as scapegoats says the orig jews r from india (abraham = a brahmin and that really resonates so check that out)  and that ahkenaton was really moses and thutmosis III was really isaac.  he doesnt like the KT tho and falls for the ruse that they were/are bad (and i disagree, they were used and false fronted).  he also says the celts/druids were really the jews --the real/first aryans (and theres alot on who the jews really are and that the scottish are really jewish) ...  there r alot of connections and he goes down many a road.  the whole deal is sun= son worship  THE DARK SIDE OF LIGHT.  u will learn some more stuff there that really fits and he has alot of movies on u tube u may wanna check out too.  he really nails it as to who the enemy is == all the dark brothers and their "angles'  and interestingly, i just read today that "angles" which thoth warns against in the emerald tablets, which he says r the trapping places of the dark brothers, are MAIN TENANTS of blavatsky and alice bailey and the THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY---tadah==the f'in THEOCRATS of course, (i should post that on angles, maybe) anyway u will see from this site how the cult of aton is all about the theocrats and here we go again.  totally connected here too, nuthin new but right there of course.  even says "there were no wars of measure with primitive pppls until religion/monotheism was introduced into the world.  see how that plays in with elementals, gods and everybody wants to be the biggest theocrat.  man oh man, when we hooked a;ll this up (with vatican of course and more...all can be seen here at this site so nicely illustrated) WE REALLY ARE ON TO SOMETHING and we have narrowed it down so nicely.  money power religion church and state==all plays right into theocracy.  do not go to that damn white light im tellin ya.  talk but dont touch...may be the best advice ever, from WIH.  its ALL in that!


http://www.taroscopes.com/astro-theolog … 20of%20sol

i hope that works up there.  its under "astro-theology"  anyway

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"

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Thanks Zenden,

You are throwing so many compliments at me that I feel shy. Don't overestimate me, I'm not risking my life by divulging this. We are in Revelation times, so the truth is coming out anyway, I just try to surf the wave of Revelation.

I also have to concentrate my mind when I read other people's posts. Sometimes their language is foreign to me.

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Montalk is THE ONE you should be complimenting on this forum for taking the risk of keeping up this website and forum!

Greetings Montalk! Keep up the good work! We are backing you up for you to pursue your great work for years and give people like me the opportunity to network with other like-minded researchers!

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Now, Zenden, you say "abraham = a brahmin", and this is right. Many learned people discovered this obvious link between Levites and Brahmins, more than 50 years ago, esotericists like the French René Guénon for instance.

I will look up this website link you suggest. This weekend, promised. So many people talked to me about Michael Tsarion, so I should get into it now.  (Maybe it was you who talked to me about him about two months ago?).

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http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11 … ut_911.htm

David Lynch Goes Public With 9/11 Questions
Film director is disturbed by unanswered questions
Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Wednesday, December 6, 2006
Film Director and cult icon David Lynch has gone public with concerns he has over the official government story of the September 11 2001 terror attacks. Lynch has stated that he is disturbed by unanswered questions concerning the Pentagon attack, the collapse of the buildings in New York and the strange ending of flight 93 in Pennsylvania.
Appearing on Dutch Television on VPRO's Wereldgasten, on December 3rd, Lynch discussed and played clips from Dylan Avery's groundbreaking 9/11 documentary Loose Change.
After playing a four minute segment from the documentary Lynch stated:
Its not so much what thy say, it's the things that make you look at what you thought you saw in a different light. And Those things for me, that bother me, is the hole in the Pentagon being too small for a plane, the lawn isn't messed up, and the government's not showing the plane hitting when many cameras photographed it.
At the World Trade Center, three buildings came down, like demolitions, and two of them were hit by a plane, but the third one they said "do you want us to pull it?" and they pulled it and it looked just like the other two. Those things bother me.
In Pennsylvania, the plane that went down, there was just a hole in the ground, there wasn't any wreckage,there wasn't any skid marks, there wasn't any tear in the earth, and no one has ever really found out about that.
So every place there's questions, coming from this documentary. You don't have to believe everything in the documentary to still have questions come up... and you look back and you remember what you saw, and what you were told, and now, you have questions.
It's just an event that has many questions and no answers.
When asked "What about suggestions the American government was behind it?", Lynch answered:
"That's too big for people to think about. it's too big. It's like something no one wants to think about."
Watch the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyVTkf8TnHc&eurl=

Lynch has directed well known cinematic classics such as Eraserhead, Dune, The Elephant Man and Mulholland Drive. He was also the creative force behind the Twin Peaks television series in the 80s. His films are synonymous with the questioning of the nature of reality and thinking outside the box. Often employing visually rich and surrealist stylistic elements, Lynch's works have become instantly recognizable to audiences worldwide and cemented his status as an underground hero for many.
Lynch's decision to make public his views is another encouraging sign that 9/11 truth and visualizations such as Loose Change are crossing the boundary between "the alternative" and the mainstream, permeating the collective consciousness of accessible culture, just as Lynch's work has done over the past four decades.
Lynch follows in the footsteps of other identifiable cultural figures who have spoken out on 9/11, such as Richard Linklater, Jesse Ventura, Matthew Bellemy, Ed Asner and Charlie Sheen.

39 (edited by druid 2007-11-26 13:27:55)

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My comments on this article reported in my last post:

Here is something strange...
David Lynch wrote a song, guitars by John Neff, called 9-1-1 in 2001, and the album was released in april-may of 2001. It is from the album Blue Bob containing tracks from Mulholland Drive. The lyrics can only be found inside the case. I haven't foudn it on the web.
'911', David Lynch and John Neff, 'Blue Bob' album, recorded in 1998. http://www.last.fm/music/David+L...John+Neff/_/ 911
Lyrics:
""You know what I'm talkin' about
Here she comes, call 911
Oughta be a law swingin' that
thing the way she does
Here she comes
Crowd is runnin' watch out
Here she comes watch out
Mayhem in the street 911
Damn baby, where do you come from?
There's gotta be a law
Call 911
How's that happenin?
I'm seein' double
I smell trouble baby, I mean it.
Back off! 911
Go back that way - the way you came
Here she comes
I'm prayin' this ain't real - I'm in love
Does she know ?
What she's doin' to me?
It's gettin' hot!
Oh man when she puts on those
black pants
the world is round
Baby, back off - back off a few feet
I'm burnin' up
Save Me! Help me out here
I can't hardly stand it!
fire and smoke...
There's gotta be a law"

I always thought he must had prior knowledge HIMSELF!!
How strange now that it is HIM now who asks about the unanswered questions on 9/11!
Is David Lynch a seer?
It must be Transcendental Mediation, which he has been propagating for a while, as he came out of the closet as a transcendental meditation practitionner, putting forward Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, famous guru of the Beatles...
Lynch will soon be releasing his new film "Inland Empire". Another movie about "A Woman In Trouble", he says...


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Montalk wrote on page 2:

Internet addiction can be accompanied by shallow breathing, disorganized thoughts, lowered attention span, and nervous tension manifested as shaking the foot or leg. That is characteristic of a weakened etheric body (per Steiner's Overcoming Nervousness), and I find it interesting that this goes hand in hand with Ahrimanic influences being associated with technology. Just a hunch, but I believe that churches, schools, offices, and department stores often have very poor air quality, as in lowered oxygen levels and too many positive instead of negative ions (too much DOR, in Reich terminology) that would increase Ahrimanic tendencies towards mechanical behavior, consumerism, and suppression of spiritual or transcending impulses. I wouldn't be surprised if certain commercial chains like Wal-Mart purposely use such technology, going beyond subliminals, to increase senseless spending in their stores.

Yes, this is the reason I believe that so many people have "Environmental Illness" "sick building syndrom" and other types of EI, there are toxic factors in building materials, but also it is the psychic and emotional component of these institutions and buildings that is causing the sickness, too. I know that for myself this is true. I cannot stand to go into most of these establishments anymore, especially big buying club stores like Costco and Sams, the electronic stimulation, subliminal programming and psychic atmosphere literally makes me ill.

druid wrote on page 2:

the process and substantification of the eighth sphere is a kind of alchemy of dissociation: the soul gets fragmented under such stress and the brain suffers from dissociation, creating psychosis. In multiple personallities, mediumnism, psychosis, addiction, dissociation under stress and torture, etc., brain substance is taken by lucifer and mineralised by ahriman. Thus the world gets gray and ugly and people flee in fantasy land this dreadful world, which in turn becomes even worse because people do not care anymore, the don't have the will to do something to save the world and themselves anymore. the machine eats up man, and mangets lost in the labyrinth-suburbs of psychotic dissociation.   

Eraserhead is the most scary movie I have ever seen. Too realistically depicting how the planet is turning into a prison-machine nightmare where man is utterly dissociated, decapitated, fragmented, dehumanised.

I just read this thread for the first time, and I did a search for Ascension - so I am wondering, if ascension considered part of NWO fantasy hoax, is it a Luciferian manufactured fantasy to keep us from going forward spiritually. There do seem to be DNA changes taking place, like the Ascension spirituality people say, I have had a lot of changes to my body and perceptual field in the last year, and also I have had more of a clear sense of when disincarnate beings are around my energy field, wheter STS or STO, so can someone direct me to another thread where you have already discussed this or if not...

I couldn't even stand the first ten minutes of Eraserhead. I pretended to fall asleep so I wouldn't actually have to look at it, because all of the people I was with thought it was a great movie.-lala

don't judge a book by its name

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lala, I just look at it as a change in consciousness that you want to happen. I've seen new agers that believe in ascension like Christians believe in rapture that they are physically leaving this place. While other new agers don't they just see a change in how they perceive the world.

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Belljar said:

lala, I just look at it as a change in consciousness that you want to happen. I've seen new agers that believe in ascension like Christians believe in rapture that they are physically leaving this place. While other new agers don't they just see a change in how they perceive the world.

I believe that you are right, it seems like quantum change is happening now though, but possibly this is because we have been exposed to so many New Age belief systems, healing techniques and mind-altering instigations. Possibly the New Age BS was a catalyst for me and now I need to continue busting through, but gosh, Ascension was at least a hopeful fantasy in many ways where we were constructing a New Earth or New Earth Star on another plane that we could go to when this Earth gets totally overrun by STS and becomes a phantom earth plane. I guess we really do all have to hang together or we will hang...-lala

don't judge a book by its name

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lala asks:
'if ascension considered part of NWO fantasy hoax, is it a Luciferian manufactured fantasy to keep us from going forward spiritually'.

belljar saw:
'new agers that believe in ascension like Christians believe in rapture that they are physically leaving this place'.

I think that a change in consciousness is coming, but for many it wil be entrapment in elemental karmic-patterns (I mean by that :when one's will and ego fall under the fatalistic force of habits and karmically-imprinted patterns). For some others, they may graduate to the rank of STS master of illusion, one the way to black magick. Sadly, it is only a minority that will be able to use this wave coming as a step forward/higher on the great Stairs of ascension. Sink or swim, but it's not a question of psi abilities, its a question of inner development of the thinking faculty in creating ideas (from the other side, it will be a power of thought over matter, not the same as clairvoyance) but above all, it's a question of moral quality of the soul that must permeate thinking, through and through with feeling and will.

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yikes Holy #@$! I just watched David Lynch's movie Eraserhead for the second time in my life last week. I can't tell you guys how many synchronicities have been happening to me  lately especially relating to Noble Realms! They've increased since I started reading these boards! What are the chances that a thread mentioning Eraserhead would be posted a week later roll


Anyway...David Lynch is an initiate. There's no question in my mind he is high level. Most certainly a mason and probably more than that. I recently heard on RedIce radio an interview which discussed how Stanley Kubrick [also an initiate] and Lynch were friends. Kubrick wanted to know how Lynch made the 'baby' in Eraserhead and Lynch wouldn't tell him.


I'm pretty wary of the New Age movement. I don't think its all goodness and light myself. I also worry when people use the term 'illuminated' to describe heightened spiritual awareness -for obvious reasons. Personally I think there's an Overmind and we are fragments of its consciousness. As for where we're headed I also happen to be somewhat of a fatalist. I think there's an element of chance in the course of our universe that we don't have control over.

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6277/wheeloffortunerq7.th.jpg

Some things we can alter. Some we can't. I have a feeling that the fate of humanity is set out already. Whatever's coming at this point can't really be stopped. And that's not necessarily a bad thing.

My People Were Fair And Had Sky In Their Hair...But Now They're Content To Wear Stars On Their Brows

-Tyrannosaurus rex

45 (edited by lala 2007-03-06 10:29:37)

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Shoogie wrote:

Holy #@$! I just watched David Lynch's movie Eraserhead for the second time in my life last week. I can't tell you guys how many synchronicities have been happening to me  lately especially relating to Noble Realms!

Yes, same for me, I will be thinking about something, or wondering about something and the next time I open NR it will be addressed in the first thing that I see. The Eraserhead discussion is older, but I resurrected it when I read through it recently and then asked some questions. I saw the movie probably 20 years ago, and it made a huge impact on me for the few minutes that I allowed myself to watch it. It is a nightmare that I do not want to dream in.

and:

Personally I think there's an Overmind and we are fragments of its consciousness. As for where we're headed I also happen to be somewhat of a fatalist. I think there's an element of chance in the course of our universe that we don't have control over.

This is what "they" want you to feel like. I was heavily into the occult and New Age metaphysics for many years without even realizing it. I was a professional Tarot reader and I was very good at it and in demand. The things that I have learned on NR have changed my life because I realized part of the New Age conspiricay, which is directed by the dark side, it to brainwash people that because we are just one big blob of consciousness separated by different bodies it doesn't matter what happens to us or our individual souls. This is a perverted view of karma. Also all of the occult and religious systems want to keep us on the treadmill of false spirituality because the disincarnate beings that they serve feed off of the enengy-this is the basic Tom, montalk theory, which to my experience seems true. Druid's recapitulations of Steiner's work plus integrating it with montalk's matrix analysis have led me to this conclusion based on my own experiences. Fatalism is part of occult indoctrination because the STS does not want humans to have connection to their inviolable human souls. Our souls are in danger, not just right now while we are living, but when we die and beyond. I want to tend to my soul now and try and get sovereinity over it now so I don't have to be on the merry-go-round of false beings for eternity. I don't think there is any escape from the physical negative magnetism that this planet and its inhavitants are going through and will continue to go through, the main thing is not being entranced by its falseness and to keep safe from it for as long as possible-lala

don't judge a book by its name