America: freedom to fascism and other thoughts

I'll have to check the video out. 

I've been researching the whole tax thing here in Canada for a little while now.  I'm no pro and just really trying to figure things out for myself, so If I get some details wrong, then my apologies but I'm sure we can all agree that we're being taken for a ride by tptb.

The legislation is there, but the trick is in how they define a taxpayer and whether or not you educate yourself on how to reclaim your rights as a soverign person, a natural person rather than be entreched in the system as an artificial person.   Artificial person is the government entity that is formed to represent us, you can see this on all bank forms, government forms, in the fact that your name will be capitlized.  They capitilize on your rights.. get it?

I dunno, maybe all of this stuff is covered in the video you mentioned.

I just stumbled upon it in conversation about a year ago while working with a contractor.  He builds houses and I was helping out for a couple of weeks and somehow it came up.  I started quizzing him and it all started coming out, though the first thing he mentioned is that fact that you have to educate yourself, no one can exercise your rights for you.  www.naturalperson.com  is a good place to startand i'm sure there are similiar educational websites for the US. 

He makes over a $100,000 a year and hasn't paid taxes in 8 years.  He has actually been on the phone with the CCRA (Canadian version of IRS) and they can't actually tell him where it's written that you have to pay taxes.  I've called too, when I was research into branching out into self-employment with the same results: stumbling agents on the phone that can't actually direct you anywhere.  He's mentioned how they tried to get him with 'fish' letters, basically just sending him a letter saying that you owe blah blah, if you respond, your hooped as you have just entered into a contract.... contract law.. it's what it really comes down to but people are too busy to educate themselves so they pay and pay and pay.  He's been in courts and had to 'present' himself as a natural person rather than represent himself.. get it.. you are there representing your aritificial person cuz most of these laws apply to that entity.  Even when the judge calls your name... you can get caught up there if you don't know what you're doing..

The first thing they do in the Canadian Tax Act is redine all the important words and even if you catch that, you still have to figure out how they use other terms 'including, includes' etc and redefine them to mean the opposite or others.  It's all perfectly legal as they told you what the new definations are.... crazy...

Don't get me wrong, I'm still learning bigtime and I still pay taxes as an employee and will do so until I figure it out and slowly remove myself from the system; but, I'm learning and the more I learn, the more blown away I am.  I've tried bringing it up with some friends and most of them just give me the 'uh yah' or just 'uh' blank looks and the conversation moves on to other matters.

Check it out and I would be interested in any other resources some of you out there might have...

natural person

Visavis,

Sounds good.

I actually have a contact number somewhere for a group called Paradigm.  They offer some educational videos/books etc and a coaching service aswell.  I'll try to dig it up for you.  Ive been meaning to tap into their services once I get some extra cash floating around.

thx for the link for expositus but it seems to be going nowhere now
do u have another link?

cheers

thanks... i'll check it out tonight.

ya, I've already read much of that natural person.ca website... great resource too!
thx

Dylan, I don't want to pull this thread off-topic by getting into a discussion on income tax law, but go back and read that page you linked again.  You'll notice the whole thing hinges on the definition of the word income itself:

If you do your homework you will find that the legal definition of the word "income" has a far different meaning than what most people understand the word to mean.    I recommend Irwin Schiff's excellent book The Federal Mafia if you want to learn what's really going on here.   

Dylan, if you have seen the movie then you know darn well that it is not just some film-maker making some wild claims about the law.   The whole film consists of interviews and quotes with Congressmen, tax officials and agents, and legal researchers -- all very credible and intelligent people.   To suggest that in this film "Aaron deceives you ..." is slanderous and quite dishonest of you, Dylan; you are OBVIOUSLY misrepresenting what is going on in the film (someone asking honest questions and being consistently stonewalled).    If anything you are the one being deceptive here.

I can't find the quote now but there is a court decision which says that you are not required to do anything unless the law is 100% specific and clear on what it is that you are supposed to do.   That is not now and has never been the case with the so-called "income tax" in America.    There's also a legal principle in America that the law has to be written so that any personal of average intelligence can actually understand it. 

It's funny, the whole point Aaron Russo makes in the movie is how the lower courts continue to define income as they please, in utter defiance of numerous Supreme Court decisions.  And these lower court rulings are what dylan's first link cites.     I suggest everyone watch the film and do their OWN homework.   Don't take the word of any stranger on a web forum.