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In the DVD of Mulholland Drive, Lynch put 10 clues to help gather the pieces of the puzzle:

1. Pay attention in the beginning: two clues are revealed before the credits.
2. Notice appearances of the red lampshade.
3. Can you hear the title of the film that Adam is auditioning actresses for?
4. An accident is a terrible event... notice the location of the accident.
5. Who gives a key, and why?
6. Notice the robe, the ashtray, the coffee cup.
7. What is felt, realized and gathered at the club Silencio?
8. Did talent alone help Camilla?
9. Notice the occurrences surrounding the man behind Winkie's.
10. Where is Aunt Ruth?

As Lyra mentionned, this movie contains many clues pertaining to the Illuminati modus operandi.

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Just saw "The Fountain" and liked it a lot. It's not a mundane third density flick but touches on the hyperdimensional and mythical and personally gave me the same satisfaction that I get from listening to epic doom metal.

The reviews are sharply polarized. I think the seething reviews are irrational reactions based on resentment over having lack of understanding or resonance with the transcendental themes in the film. For anyone here who enjoys poetic, cosmic, epic things... definitely go see this, at least as a matinee.

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The truly amazing thing about the fountain was the persistance of aronofsky in getting the movie made (that and the amazing NON CGI special effects).

check this article out: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.1 … er_pr.html

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Sinaptix, thanks for the recommendation for "Stay".  I had never even heard of the film before, yet I read that post just yesterday, and then last night went to the video store for the first time in months (looking for something else), and then saw that one on the shelf when I wasn't expecting it.  I immediately thought "synchronicity", and rented it.

Definitely worth it; I'll be thinking about that one for a while.  For those who haven't seen it but are considering it, don't be fooled by the scathing reviews at places like rottentomatoes.  Similar to what montalk said above with "The Fountain", I get the strong sense that the large amount of criticism leveled against "Stay" is due to the proportionately small percentage of the population that it may resonate with.

Without really spoiling anything, I'll give you one small tidbit that's both a warning and a hint... For most of the people on this forum, the primary plotline explanation in "Stay" will likely be pretty apparent within the first hour or so of viewing (you may not know all the details, but you'll see where it's going).  But there's more to it than that.  So if you're looking only on the surface, the final reward won't be very satisfying... but give it some more thought once you're done, and you'll probably be tempted to watch the movie again from a different angle.

Getting more than the overt cursory explanation from this movie takes a bit of work, something most viewers probably won't do (both because of a lack of interest/resonance, and also because the plot is structured in such a way that when the finale comes the viewer may think that's all there is)... but the people on this forum tend to be more adept at looking behind the curtain a bit more, and so for this audience I think the movie is a must-see.

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I saw the movie Deja Vu and I liked it.  Denzel Washington plays the lead.

More about time travel than deja vu.

Time travel, theories of time travel, the power of intention, high technology.

Some horror/violence - nothing really so bad (and I don't tend to like that stuff).  I feel that there may be a balancing effect here - revealing technology to the public and throwing in some horror.

Recommended.

Compared to other movies of this type, I think it is presented in a plausible manner (overall).

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We saw "Children of Men," starring Clive Owen and Julianne Moore.  Basic plot synopsis - it's the year 2029, and humanity has been infertile for 18 years.  Society has gone to pot and the only country that's supposedly still hanging on by a thread is Great Britain.  The movie opens up with the death of the world's youngest human, age 18, all over the news.  Society is bleak - refugees, or fugees, are hunted down and put into detention camps, warring factions of people fight in the burned out streets...and then one woman turns up pregnant.   Here's the trailer:

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808715896/trailer


I thought this movie was awesome and VERY well done.  The way it was filmed....extremely realistic.  It's a movie that takes place in the future yet, is believable, not some hokey sci-fi portrayal of how the future will be. 

I mention this movie only because the reviews it's getting are extremely polarized.  People either hate it - quite literally, with vigor and passion - or they love it.   I have yet to see a review that's in between.  Going over to imdb.com there is quite a bit of hate being spewed on the messageboard for this movie, to the point where you can practically imagine the figuritive spittle flying around as these people typed their comments.  To me it's shocking, because I thought this movie was absolutely fantastic and so well done.   Why the hate?  Why the polarization?   I can only guess, but I'm thinking that this movie touched a nerve for a lot of people, big time.  It's quite emotional and moving - you can tell from the trailer alone, and you'll come away from it looking around at life very differently.  The shallow types and "OPs" can't seem to handle that sort of thing.  Oh well for them......but don't let it bias you.  This movie is a must-see in a sea of nonsense movies that are currently out.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Montalk wrote a better summary about "Children of Men" over at Yahoo!   

http://movies.yahoo.com/mvc/dfrv?mid=18 … RKXJMeeQ--

If that doesn't make you want to see the movie, I don't know what will!  big_smile  haha 

Some interesting tidbits about what made this movie realistic -

- The climactic scene at the end where Theo (Clive Owen) gets caught up in a gun battle taking place in a burned out rubble area of the city, trying to rescue Kee and her infant who've been kidnapped - the scene seems to have been filmed in one continuous shot, it's not cut cut cut edited and pasted together;  it's as if the director literally was following Clive/Theo around with his camera through the wreckage, dodging bullets and explosions happening all around them. At one point somebody is shot and blood splatters, and the camera actually has drops of "blood" on the lens, and of course it keeps filming, never breaking from that one continuous shot; the camera follows Clive through the building and rubble, up the stairs and down, down the halls, this way and that, as gun toting soldiers rush past and bullets continuosly fly and random explosions go off;  You feel like you're really there, tagging along in this war zone, especially since it's filmed at interesting angles, slightly lower than Clive, looking up at him. 

- Animals, lots of animals!  It's something I've noticed about other movies, the lack of pets and wild animals to be featured, to the point where it's glaringly obvious and registers on the subconscious level as being unrealistic.  In this movie, animals are prominantly featured, from cats and kittens at the English house in the country, (Theo is talking with the group of rebel activists and meanwhile, the camera shows things from his point of view, looking down at his pants several times to the kittens clawing their way up his leg, mewing! haha  very cute) to livestock and wild animals in the city.  A flock of sheep, stray dogs and chickens clucking through the poverty streets, somebody on horseback in some sort of precession march, and so on. 

- The heroes are real - at the end, it's a non-English speaking (Croatian?) peasant looking woman named Marika who gets Theo and Kee and her baby to the boat to safety...she's dressed totally shabby and never speaks a word of English, and instead they communicate through gestures and a few scrawled pictures.  Meanwhile, as Marika runs through the streets toting a little dog that she won't leave behind.  More realism.  And people die.  Main characters and heroes do die, the way it would really go in real life.


I don't know, I could go on.  It's just a really engaging and fascinating movie, and so well done and directed.  Very unusual stuff.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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we saw "Blood Diamonds" a few days ago ... fairly intense movie as it's based on 'real-life' situations -- they didn't hold anything back in terms of showing some of the violence that goes on in some parts of africa with all the various factions fighting each other for control, power, etc ... i enjoyed the movie although it was really sombering with regards to the overall theme - it's a story about a diamond smuggler who seems to be out only for his own interests and who gets involved with 2 characters: a reporter with a heart and strong conscience who wants to expose the truth about the situation in that part of africa where they are & a native african guy whose village gets plundered by a guerilla faction opposing the local government and also whose family gets taken from him - the plot gets more involved with all these folks finding themselves getting involved in each others' business and ultimate destiny ...   

the interations and relationship that develops between the smuggler & the reporter i though was really interesting - something like both showing their own views to each other and the resulting affects they both eventually have on each other -- the whole human nature thing - looking at the smuggler's character, it made me think about peoples characters in general - and how some can really be affected by serious traumatic incidents they experience during early childhood (i don't think i had any of those), so it was interesting for me that way ...

... checking out the mirror of relationship ...

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lyra wrote:

Montalk wrote a better summary about "Children of Men" over at Yahoo!   

http://movies.yahoo.com/mvc/dfrv?mid=18 … RKXJMeeQ--

If that doesn't make you want to see the movie, I don't know what will!  big_smile  haha 

Some interesting tidbits about what made this movie realistic -

- The climactic scene at the end where Theo (Clive Owen) gets caught up in a gun battle taking place in a burned out rubble area of the city, trying to rescue Kee and her infant who've been kidnapped - the scene seems to have been filmed in one continuous shot, it's not cut cut cut edited and pasted together;  it's as if the director literally was following Clive/Theo around with his camera through the wreckage, dodging bullets and explosions happening all around them. At one point somebody is shot and blood splatters, and the camera actually has drops of "blood" on the lens, and of course it keeps filming, never breaking from that one continuous shot; the camera follows Clive through the building and rubble, up the stairs and down, down the halls, this way and that, as gun toting soldiers rush past and bullets continuosly fly and random explosions go off;  You feel like you're really there, tagging along in this war zone, especially since it's filmed at interesting angles, slightly lower than Clive, looking up at him. 

- Animals, lots of animals!  It's something I've noticed about other movies, the lack of pets and wild animals to be featured, to the point where it's glaringly obvious and registers on the subconscious level as being unrealistic.  In this movie, animals are prominantly featured, from cats and kittens at the English house in the country, (Theo is talking with the group of rebel activists and meanwhile, the camera shows things from his point of view, looking down at his pants several times to the kittens clawing their way up his leg, mewing! haha  very cute) to livestock and wild animals in the city.  A flock of sheep, stray dogs and chickens clucking through the poverty streets, somebody on horseback in some sort of precession march, and so on. 

- The heroes are real - at the end, it's a non-English speaking (Croatian?) peasant looking woman named Marika who gets Theo and Kee and her baby to the boat to safety...she's dressed totally shabby and never speaks a word of English, and instead they communicate through gestures and a few scrawled pictures.  Meanwhile, as Marika runs through the streets toting a little dog that she won't leave behind.  More realism.  And people die.  Main characters and heroes do die, the way it would really go in real life.


I don't know, I could go on.  It's just a really engaging and fascinating movie, and so well done and directed.  Very unusual stuff.

Just watched this based on your post.

Very gritty and realistic indeed.  And a bit too close to home as many of the locations are more or less just down the road, and the whole scenario really isn't far fetched at all.

What makes it stick in mind so much is how it moves slowly from everyday activities; launderette (or was it a cafe?), work, pub, then out into the wilderness and so on.  Slowly things get ever grimmer, and as you said it really pulls you in as Theo literally gets caught up in the whole thing.

If people hated this movie - the reason can only be as you suggested Lyra - it hit a nerve, big time.

That said - I personally feel it was excellently filmed, and directed.  However I am finding it hard to say it was a "good" film though due to the nature of the world and story it portrays.  That's the part of me that wants to deny it all I guess; because it was indeed a good film.

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oceanchild wrote:

we saw "Blood Diamonds" a few days ago ...

I heard a really interesting story from Alex Jones on Conflict Diamonds.  He explained that while conflict diamonds are a "bad" thing, their government is not as concerned with who is making money from the diamonds but who is not.  Jones said that basically 2 families own the majority of diamond mines in the world.  Diamonds also are one of the least precious stories in the world next to quartz, however through a clever marketing campaign, and artificial supply suppression diamonds value has been raised through the roof.  Debeers stands to lose greatly if the market is flooded with diamonds that did not come through their channel, because quite frankly they are everywhere in Africa.  So Debeers is funding the government and militias to take out the "illegal" diamond mines, and smugglers, and has labeled the those diamonds conflict diamonds to blemish anyone caught purchasing them.

"...But Nothing is Lost:" "Nothing lasts... nothing lasts. Everything is changing into something else. Nothing's wrong. Nothing is wrong. Everything is on track. William Blake said nothing is lost and I believe that we all move on." - Terrence McKenna - Shpongle - But Nothing Is Lost

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Indeed Children of Men was awesome film! Especially the gun battle that Lyra mentioned was great. I wrote a summary about the film on a web site but it's in Turkish big_smile

There were several references to Pink Floyd album Animals, as Pigs & Sheeps. And there are cats in every house, probably to fill the emptiness of children. Cats are special - as we wrote here on NR in several threads. This film made me think about my unwillingness about the children (remember Having Children thread?). If you ask me, a world without children is an utopia lol but this film shows it as a convincing distopia.

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I just got done watching The Patriot again, which I hadn't seen for awhile.   What a good movie.   Everyone should see this to get in the proper spirit for the times we are now facing.

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feritciva wrote:

If you ask me, a world without children is an utopia lol but this film shows it as a convincing distopia.

**Some Spoilers below if you haven’t seen the movie yet...**

When Theo walks out of the building near the end with the two girls - and as he passes people on both sides of the fight they fall to silence.  This is quite profound as they walk past the military guys - some of which drop to their knees.  As they continue on the camera gets a wide angle shot of the military, their vehicles and the building - all in total silence.

In that moment all the fighting is clearly seen for what it is.  Pointless and pathetic. 

In the end...what is the point if there are no children and no future?  Children heal humanities insanity – and at least put a tether on what may otherwise be committed.

Yet the moment is only brief as the stupidity of man takes hold almost immediately.

In some ways it reminded me of the few hours and days after September 11, a lot of anguish and silence.  I remember seeing violence on TV and computer games – and it all seemed so empty, cruel and ridiculous.  Yet that period was only brief before people once again resumed their daily insanity...

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morningsun76 wrote:

I just got done watching The Patriot again, which I hadn't seen for awhile.   What a good movie.   Everyone should see this to get in the proper spirit for the times we are now facing.

We rented this a few months ago, since I'd never seen it.

Let's just put it this way....................I didn't even finish watching it.  I guess I don't agree, I don't think it's a good movie at all.  We paused it because it is a long movie, and I had to go to work the next morning and it was already 1 a.m., so I intended to watch the rest the next night....although I was already feeling a bit doubtful about continuing it.   So in the intermim I hopped online and did the research into this movie out of curiosity, and come to find out that it's blatently lying about things that happened during the Revolutionary War.  Namely, it portrays the British troops as over the top monster caricatures, doing things they didn't actually do according to real history.  We'd paused the movie before the infamous scene where some of the colonists are rounded up and burned to death in a barn by the British troops, but that apparently didn't really happen.   (I know, people are thinking, "Hollywood??  Lying and distorting things??? Noooooo!"  big_smile haha)   When I learned that I was like, You know what....I'm not even going to finish watching this movie.  It's hooey, forget it.  I mean, I know Hollywood lies...but still.  When you're doing an historical epic you should at least make an effort to be, oh, I don't know......accurate in some way!   And if a particular event, such as innocent colonists being rounded up and burned alive didn't actually happen, then there's no real pont in watching it on cellluloid.  Because it's not actually a re-enactment of a real historical event. 

As far as The Patriot being "the proper spirit" for the times we are now facing, I don't know about that either...........!  Think I'd have to disagree, but, that's just me.....

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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I seem to remember the same being said about Braveheart.  To be honest I have never taken the time to look into any research.

I assumed - perhaps wrongly - that the detractors were making comments based on "accurate" history taken from the history books...which as we all know are written by the victors and generally very biased.  Maybe that isn't the case - would be interested to know if the movies are just blatantly inaccurate, or if it's just a case of them not conforming to the history books.

As I have been lazy in this regard and you have recently done the research... big_smile