Re: What's the latest in Florida?

lyra wrote:

You gotta be kidding me.

I kid you not. I don't think it got much over 80 degrees on Sat., but there was rain and cloud coverage also.  Actually lyra, they reported the week before predicting that a cold front was dropping down, but I think it stalled out in GA..  So really it's been reported that two cold fronts have headed for FL in August.

Thank you for keeping us updated on the articles... it's kinda hard to read it though, that hurricane could've hit here, and there's so many more people and so much more infrastructure in this area... the possibilities are something I don't even want to imagine.

And the deception?  Whoa. Certainly indeed, bless Michael Edwards for his effort. 

Since you never watch TV you probably haven't seen the devastation Charley left behind, it's mind boggling what is seen.  I had to call Progress FL today (local electric co.) and there was a recorded message telling all the different counties when their electricity would be fixed and turned back on, the last community to have their service back on will be next Tues. the 24th in Polk Co.!

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Re: What's the latest in Florida?

Auendove wrote:
lyra wrote:

You gotta be kidding me.

I kid you not. I don't think it got much over 80 degrees on Sat., but there was rain and cloud coverage also.  Actually lyra, they reported the week before predicting that a cold front was dropping down, but I think it stalled out in GA..  So really it's been reported that two cold fronts have headed for FL in August.

Thank you for keeping us updated on the articles... it's kinda hard to read it though, that hurricane could've hit here, and there's so many more people and so much more infrastructure in this area... the possibilities are something I don't even want to imagine.

And the deception?  Whoa. Certainly indeed, bless Michael Edwards for his effort. 

Since you never watch TV you probably haven't seen the devastation Charley left behind, it's mind boggling what is seen.  I had to call Progress FL today (local electric co.) and there was a recorded message telling all the different counties when their electricity would be fixed and turned back on, the last community to have their service back on will be next Tues. the 24th in Polk Co.!


Next Tuesday.....that sounds about normal or what's to be expected I guess for a storm of that magnitude.   We were hit by Hurricane Gloria up in CT in 1985, and we went a week with no electricity, no hot water.  Sort of started getting used to living by candlelight and taking cold baths then poof, the lights came on one night at 5 p.m. while we were eating dinner.  It actually felt strange for a few hours afterwards, took some readjusting.  smile

On a more serious note, between your posts and Soloflek's, I'm really starting to think that "somebody" tinkered with this storm to make it hit Punta Gorda, and not Tampa.   I think someone gave it a nudge and knocked it off course.    I mean, notice once again that yet MORE trailer parks were wiped out.  It's always, always trailer park devastation whenever tornados hit.  Now, with the hurricane.   Last year we had a tornado here in South Florida (west palm beach) that touched down and demolished what of all things but .......a trailer park.  Not a nice ritzy neighborhood, no, a trailer park.   This was in August, actually.   Since that time I've paid attention to newstories involving tornados and I swear, most of them involve trailer park devastation.

I think "somebody" worked to avoid the landfall in Tampa, because like you said...."there's so many more people and so much more infrastructure in this area... the possibilities are something I don't even want to imagine. "   I mean, exactly.   Same as Hurricane Andrew.   It was on course to make landfall in Hollwyood / Ft. Lauderdale, and at the "last minute".....sound familiar?.....it veered south and hit Homestead, *THE* poorest area in all of South Florida.  It's where all the fields and farms are, where the migrant workers live, and the illegal immigrants.   It's certainly a far cry from West Palm Beach, Broward County and metro Miami, all of which could have / should have been the original target.

I definately am suspicious about this one, that's for sure.

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Re: What's the latest in Florida?

lyra,

What do you think about the lenticular cloudships I saw having something to do with the weather and the diversion of Charley?

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Re: What's the latest in Florida?

Auendove wrote:

lyra,

What do you think about the lenticular cloudships I saw having something to do with the weather and the diversion of Charley?

I don't know....I'm not up on meteorology, although I wish I was.    But I did a search on Google, typing in "Lenticular clouds causes of" to see what I could learn, and check THIS out:

http://snrs.unl.edu/amet351/noehrenberg … louds.html

"These clouds form as air passes over mountains.  In some cases, the air will move in a smooth arc over the mountain.  This is what causes the upside down saucer shape.  For lenticulars to form, the air must be fairly dry yet still contain some moisture.  As the air ascends up and over the mountain, it reaches a point to where the air reaches saturation and it condenses to form a cloud.  If most of the air is dry, yet it still contains a few levels of moisture, the clouds will form in these moist layers.  This is why lenticular clouds may sometimes have a stacked appearance."

Since when does Florida have MOUNTAINS???   Holy cow........wow.   Anytime I've ever seen photos of lenticular clouds, they involved mountains.    So looks like that may not have been a lenticular "cloud"...although it was certainly lenticular, if you get my drift!    big_smile    Very strange.  And the plot thickens.

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35 (edited by Auendove 2004-08-17 04:28:14)

Re: What's the latest in Florida?

lyra and all,

Mountains, right?  The sky is EVERYWHERE in FL..  I moved here from SF, CA and it was something else to become a flatlander... really though, I have seen some 'lil hills up in Tallahassee. smile  And this?--

For lenticulars to form, the air must be fairly dry yet still contain some moisture.

Fairly dry air?  In FL, in August? Strike two. Such a notion just doesn't exist.  I've said for years--one must be some part fish to breath the FL air from June through September because there's just that much moisture in the air.  No doubt lyra will agree with this, especially given she's even further into the tropical zone than I am here in central FL.

Hmmmm... I would normally write "Go figure" here, like I didn't know what to think about it, but the thing is when I saw those lenticular "clouds" I wasn't thinking about how they formed, they being the only clouds in the sky shaped this way for all I could see in all directions, I was wondering what was inside of them there lenticular "cloudships"... and that immediate reaction comes either from awareness and intuition, or it's a pavlovian reaction to that particular shape of cloud.

And I have to put a disclaimer here that I'm NOT feeling any extreme emotion when I write this (including paranoia or fear), nor was I at the time I saw the darn things, but I was wondering why they were parked at my front doorstep, with other clouds moving in front of and around them in the wind... ya know, it's just that cat/dog thing, Snicker! Snort! Snicker! "Whats it is, I don't know too."  My aunt told me that was one of my first complete sentences... I must've been asking "Whats it is?" a lot, and hearing back, "I don't know".  It's just in my nature to be inquisitive, to wonder what and why. If I had the stomach for human deception I'd make a great PI.

roll On the other hand, that boomerang I saw on July 4th fried some nerve receptors. Life's like a dream?  HA!  Life's like kwazy man!

Now: Go figure. big_smile

And, sorry I got off the subject matter a tad, but after I saw the lenticulars I heard about Charley, and instantly put the two together, and I haven't found a good reason yet to seperate them.

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Re: What's the latest in Florida?

Auendove,

What's a boomerang?  Is that a military craft, or something that fits in the category called "other" ?  wink   How do they move / fly?   Do they make any noise, or have any lights?

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Re: What's the latest in Florida?

Higher Forces wrote:

On July 30th, this was stated by the Forces: "Well of course the beginning of the paradigm and the energy flow and the grid coordinators that come once a year between Earth and Mars.  And this is the beginning and the entrance of the vortex or they call it the 'worm-hole' in which time travel happens; from the 1st of August to the 13th of August.  Interestingly enough, the Olympics starts on the 13th of your month of August..."

cameron,

Okay, I've been thinking about this since you posted it. 8/1-13th is the only window of time time travel can happen?  Are time travel and inter-density shifting two different things? (oh gawd... is that a dumb question?)  Hmmm... I wonder what question was asked of the HF's to illicit this response.  August has always been an interestiig month for me, but not necessarily just the first two weeks.  And is the new "paradigm" spoken of by the HF's the partial or direct result of Venus's fly-by and energetic influence?

cameron wrote:

I'd say the weather is integrally connected with this vortex -- as well as any 'energy flow' stemming from the alignment of some 'grid coordinators'.

Could you please expand on this in layperson terms, that is if you have the time smile?  Where does the vortex open to, or from?  Since this opening is happening within the grid then it's a vortex that "happens" everywhere, whereas a portal is a centralized phenomenon, true?  So does a time traveler come into this dimension at the quantum molecular level THROUGH the grid?  Hmmmpphhh, so many questions (I probably shouldn't have waited so long to start asking smile )... do they even have to "materialize" into this timeline to affect it?  Are we talking about individuals as well as whole UFO's coming through the grid system? Sheesh! I'm getting such an intuitive "hit" right now about holographics "seeing" one holographically projected "reality" replaced with another... like two different movies accidently spliced together.

Setting aside the 8/1-13th window of opportunity for manipulation by outside forces, could/would this vortex opening cause odd weather because of natural atmospheric displacement due to the energy influx?

Ummm... cameron, are you able to share the rest of the HF session?

I hope my post isn't read like I'm doggin' you, I'm just really curious about all of it... it is fascinating isn't it?  Worm holes... huhn!

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38 (edited by lyra 2004-08-17 07:38:38)

Re: What's the latest in Florida?

Okay, well my question about what's a boomerang was overlooked smile soooo........... I just went ahead and went to Google and looked it up myself.   Came up with some articles that appeared on Rense which were MUFON updates, as well as other assorted interesting write ups on these things:

http://www.rense.com/general5/filers103100.htm

http://www.caus.org/flytriangle/ft042100.shtml

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicft.html



I tend to wonder if these things aren't military.  I've always assumed that mysterious aircraft like the black triangles are, and definately not alien or anything.     We were watching that Steven Spielberg series "Taken" on DVD, (now THAT'S a write up for another time! wink   )  and there's one scene that stuck out in my mind which happened probably in episode 2 or 3, and it showed a scene at Groom Lake, in the early 50's, and you see a Stealth bomber coming in for a landing.  It's such a contrast, all these military guys with 1950's haircuts, and 1950's automobiles...........then this sleek black Stealth flying in overhead.   Pretty cool.  But the point was to show us that the military is years ahead in their technology and aviation abilities, and don't reveal things to the public until decades after they've invented stuff.   (it was also trying to insinuate that they received their aviation technology from the reverse engineering of the Roswell crash wreckage, as shown in episode 1....)  all of which is standard Nexus Magazine fare.

At any rate, if the world is still around in 30 years, I wonder if we'll be seeing these boomerangs out in the open, as the "latest" in flying aircraft?   

I look at jumbo jets and it's such a joke because I know that they've got the ability for anti-gravity devises now, stuff they'll never reveal to the public.   But, topic for another thread I guess, since this is the Florida hurricane thread.   Maybe we could start one on mysterious flying craft, and Military vs. alien technology.......?    If anybody has any experiences or personal insight they could post them.  Could help in making correlations, like Audendove noticing the lenticular cloudship hovering over the Tampa area just days prior to Hurricane Charley heading up the Florida Gulf coast towards Tampa.    Just an idea......

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39 (edited by Auendove 2004-08-17 07:48:29)

Re: What's the latest in Florida?

lyra,

Your question did not go unobserved, I just wanted to be thorough. smile

lyra wrote:

What's a boomerang?  Is that a military craft, or something that fits in the category called "other" ?
How do they move / fly?   Do they make any noise, or have any lights?

A boomerang... shaped like an aboriginal boomerang, except huge of course; not shaped triangularly like the UFO shown in the first picture that's shown right above this passage from website "ET Reality News" http://www.geocities.com/area51/orion/3 … gles.htm-- 

The large boomerangs are 25 times larger than a B-2 and are usually described as being football field size or several miles long.
The objects hover or move slowly and also shoot off at high speeds.
Speeds of these craft have been calculated at over 1800 mph.
Most people report them with having no sound or sometimes with a low humming sound.
Small objects, sometimes spheres have been seen coming from the main craft.
Boomerangs seem to have the ability to change appearance or become camouflaged.

From http://www.crystalinks.com/ufos.html--

BOOMERANG CRAFT

A single solid object of boomerang shape that may have multiple illuminations forming the shape.
(Sometimes difficult to establish between single object or formation of individual objects unless outline of craft is established.)

It was morning time, 10 AM-ish, a typical FL summer morning with lots of low lying cotton candy clouds, huge ones. I was driving to the supermarket to get pie fixins' and my attention went from the road and up to the sky where I viewed traveling, or soaring/gliding, from behind one huge puff of cloud to behind another huge puff of cloud was a boomerang ship camouflaged like, of all things, sky and cloud!  I gather I saw no lights because it was in broad daylight (FCOL! In broad daylight much less) and/or because it was camouflaged. I heard no sounds because I was in the truck with the windows up, AC, and radio on.  By the time I got the window down it had already passed from view behind the neighboring cloud.  I stood outside the store for awhile looking to see if I would see it again, but that didn't happen.  It didn't seem like it was going fast per se, but no doubt it happened quickly, in a matter of seconds.  It appeared more to be gliding, certainly rather than "shooting off". 

When I saw your post I took to my search engine as I did after I saw the thing.  I did find some different web sites today than I did then, but no pictures of a boomerang craft.  There was one site that said it had a pic of one, but the pic wasn't available as well as the rest of the pictures identifying the different types of UFO craft people have seen. I also noticed that probably half of the UFO sites I tried to visit pertaining to boomerangs were no long available.

Military craft or "other"?  Heck, I have no idea... sure didn't look like anything I have ever seen before in my life. I didn't read anything in my search this morning that stated one way or the other about the boomerangs in particular, but definitely about the controversy between triangular ones being military craft, as the gov't. would like us to believe, or actual interstellar ships. All I can say is it had to've been an intimidation tactic because why the hell else would I be "allowed" to see it?  I mean really, what an ineffectual camouflage, the shape was obvious... and why not just stay behind the cloud coverage?  There was plenty of cotton candy cloud coverage to be found, this object didn't have to be seen if it didn't really want to be seen.

Here are a few other eyewitness accounts I read about this morning that I could relate to:

http://www.myusm.com/usm187.html

I have watched for UFO's my entire life and have done extensive research on them. All through my school days when ever a report was due mine was always on some aspect about ufo's. despite my knowlage in this area and my intense hope of haveing the honor to witness one of these strange objects, nothing prepared me for what i was to witness november2,1997. It was 5:45 in the morning and i was just comeing home from a friends going away party downstairs.(I live in the dorms on an airforce base) I was standing on my balcony smokeing a cig. when for some reason i looked up. there was no sounds no lights nothing that you would normally associate with an ufo. It had a wing span of of aproxamatley 100 yards if not more and its shape resembled a boomerang. It appeared be of a grayish color, and although it was dark outside the object was clearly visible but with no glowing effect to it. Friend have said that it may have been a plane or even one of the new stealth bombers, but i can say with out a doubt that i have never seen an aircraft of this sort before and if by chance it was a airplane why no sound? why no lights? All i can say for sure is that I never want to see one again.

While I understand this person's bottom line emotion, and even though I noted my "fried nerve receptors", I'd still rather know than not know, but let there be no doubt--it really <bleeps> with one's sense of reality to see something like this, even one well aware of how whacked the concept of reality can become.


From this web page http://ufopi.freehomepage.com/V2N8.HTM--

Today at 2:37PM I glanced out the window on the 37th floor of the Burnett Plaza building in downtown Fort Worth Texas and spotted this object in the sky. I had only been looking out this window for approximately three minutes when I spotted a UFO in a perfect boomerang shaped traveling at a high speed. The UFO looked very much like the artwork I found on the internet and have included on this document. This object was approximately the size of a dime held at arms length and appeared to be of a dark gray color. The sky was partly cloudy with vivid blue sky showing from between the sparse cloud cover. I spotted this object moving from behind one cloud and again hidden by the next cloud moving in a south westerly direction. It was visible for only about two seconds due to its rapid speed. However I was able to clearly see its shape as its gray color contrasted against the deep blue sky. It would be my guess that its size would have been at least three times the size of a jumbo jet flying just above the clouds. Judging from the size of a jet when seen moving across this same area in the past. This object seemed to be moving more that three times the speed of a normal jumbo jet. I'm not very good at guessing altitudes or speeds so these are just
Estimates of what I believe was its true speed.

When I first saw it, I could clearly see the pointed front surface of the object, then I noticed that it seemed to grow larger and larger as more and more of this huge object moved out from behind the cloud. Next I could see that the central part of this object was completely void of a body. The object had only a set of wings in a "V" shape. As the ends of the two giant wings were completely out from behind the cloud the nose had already begun to go behind the next cloud. Some times I wonder why I looked directly at that spot in the sky where this thing was to appear, it was almost as if it had some how instructed me to do so.

I have also wondered why was my attention drawn off the road to look out my window and up into the sky... I just don't do this while I'm driving.  As far as the size goes, the one I saw was relatively close to the ground because the clouds were very low to the ground.  If I gauged the same way as did this person then the craft would've been about 2 feet wide at the tip of my extended arm.  Like I said it was close to the ground and to my community, it was definitely closer to the ground than it was the upper atmosphere.

Edit: And if I positioned myself at 6 o'clock on the face of clock as relative to where I was on the ground, then the boomerang would've been a 10 o'clock.

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40 (edited by Auendove 2004-08-17 08:05:34)

Re: What's the latest in Florida?

lyra,

I read the Rense site you noted in your post, and found this interesting:

It was larger than a jumbo jet with more surface area and camouflaged by the darkness of the sky with little bright spots to resemble the background of the surrounding stars.

Sounds the same like my daytime siting of one camouflaged as sky and cloud, only the nighttime one camouflaged like the night sky and stars.

There's also this I found earlier about the triangular shaped crafts--

http://www.rense.com/general51/TRI.HTM

If we're going to move this converstation to a new topic thread which posts get moved?  What do I need to do, besides stop making posts until it's moved. big_smile

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Re: What's the latest in Florida?

Auendove wrote:

If we're going to move this converstation to a new topic thread which posts get moved?  What do I need to do, besides stop making posts until it's moved. big_smile


Oh I don't know.......somebody could just start a thread about UFO's / Mysterious Flying Aircraft or something.   I can if you want, or if you want to do it, it's up to you.  Then maybe we can copy and paste some of these posts over to there?   I do want to start a thread as well about that series I mentioned called "Taken", and things I noticed in it, including major disinformation and all that.  That'll have to wait til I get home because I don't have my notes here with me.

I just get the feeling that the topic of aliens vs. military aircraft, and also disinformation concerning aliens / abductions and UFO's is going to become increasingly more important and relevant in the not-too-distant future.  Surprisingly, we haven't had a thread yet that's actually fully devoted to this topic.   With the sharp rise in UFO sightings being reported worldwide, and SOOO many people convinced that "aliens" are good for humanity, it wouldn't be a bad idea to discuss it.  smile

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Re: What's the latest in Florida?

Hey ya lyra,

Since you were planning on working on your other thread about the series "Taken" I'll take care of this UFO one, although I'm now wondering why they're called Unidentified any longer, they sure seem pretty darn identified to me according to many sources. 

And I'm not really sure why but I couldn't even force myself to watch the miniseries "Taken", and I had so been looking forward to it when they first started advertising for it.  I'd like to see where such a conversation goes among those who have seen it though.

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Re: What's the latest in Florida?

Here's the latest update from Rense on the true death toll, as well as who's doing what:

http://www.rense.com/general56/eekk.htm

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FL Eyewitness Death Count Close To 400 Now
More from Michael Edward
Rumor Mill News Agents Forum
8-17-4

What an eye awakening day this was. I thought that I had seen it all having been involved from Viet Nam to the beginning of Desert Storm in my military and civilian law enforcement career, but today I learned about a new part of the shame game.
 
For those who won,t bother to read all this report, let me spell out the body counts that 6 of us (all retired military and/or law enforcement) went out to confirm today in different areas. These are confirmed bodies in the trucks, restaurant refers, or refer vans, and they are NOT 'missing persons' or animals:
 
Charlotte Harbor areas - 58 dead as of 5pm today; Fort Myers & the barrier islands - 21 deaths as of 3pm today; Punta Gorda - 275+ deaths and escalating each hour; Desoto County - 36 deaths, expected to increase;
 
These figures came from our own eyes, medical personnel, various county sheriff's deputies, and eye witnesses or residents from the worst devastated areas. CNN and the rest of the world biased and controlled media are fooling none of us who live here. The current CONFIRMED body count in our 3 county area on the west coast of Florida is near 400 as I write this.
 
Readers should know right up front who is doing their best and who fails to pass the grade:
 
Honors awards to those people who have given and done the most: 1. City of North Port Police Department 2. Charlotte County Deputies 3. Desoto County Deputies 4. Visiting Pinellas County Deputies 5. Florida Power and Light
 
All of the above have gone beyond the call of duty. They are showing us what real cops and utility workers used to be... humanitarians.
 
Failing grades go to:
 
1. FEMA, the government loan people. 2. John Ellis Bush (JEB, the corporate Governor of Florida). 3. The untrained and unequipped remnants of the Florida National Guard. 4. George Walker Bush, the non-elected and appointed U.S. President. 5. Recycling firms who are stealing aluminum siding from destroyed mobile homes. 6. Those selling bags of ice for $10. 7. Thieves from Miami taking personal belongings from demolished homes. 8. Those thieves demanding money up front to file fake insurance claims.
 
Here's some of what went on today...
 
There are staging areas for FEMA (with their red and white signs to let you know they are 'there'), et al, that we could not openly enter into with photo and movie cameras having been 'discovered' in our vehicles... our cars and pick-ups were searched in the 'sensitive' areas where the worst devastation took place and where we were then refused entry. None-the-less, we still walked into most of these "off limits" areas at waterfront motels, I-75 restaurant/commercial areas, destroyed mobile home parks, and the temporary Charlotte morgue... to name a few. This is how we came up with the above figures for body counts. We spoke with medical personnel who have come from Miami to work triage and other temporary facilities, ambulance drivers (a special thanks to the Ambutrans people), homeless residents, and deputies from many different counties.
 
Considering most of the trained and experienced personnel and modern equipment from the Florida National Guard are now in the Middle East, JEB THE BUSH dared to send us antiquated equipment that broke down on I-75 driven by untrained personnel who have no idea what to do. Worse is that there were no water purification trucks (erdilators) sent, just old water tankers and old communications and storage trailers. It was a circus show and a true military cluster puck. There is no Florida National Guard... all the necessary equipment we need is sitting in Iraq or Kuwait right now.
 
A professional group of electronic thieves intercepted telephone calls from Lee and Charlotte counties to the special Allstate and State Farm insurance claims lines. They demanded credit card numbers and up-front payments from those calling in claims stating that they could guarantee 24 hour payment for all damages if the victims would pay $250-500 to them.
 
The lowest theft and emergency incident rate is in the City of North Port. Although they had little hurricane damage, most of their electric power was off from Friday afternoon until this afternoon (just a few neighborhoods are still without power). For a rapidly growing city with the third largest city land mass in Florida, they managed to control traffic, stop burglaries and other thefts, and were "gentlemen with all Charlotte, Desoto, and Lee county people who went there for food and gas. They are grossly understaffed, yet they have performed like a crack military unit. One member of our group insists that I especially thank Lieutenant Choinere for his assistance.
 
There is NO Martial Law here. In fact, all city and county law enforcement are stretched to the limit. While they work overtime and are as physically exhausted as we are, Federal and State law enforcement departments do very little [if anything] in comparison. The local departments are shunned by the State and Federal "boys, yet the locals are doing far more than their share of what is needed.
 
The biggest joke going around among us is about the guy who walked up in the new white car - wearing a nice suit in our 90% humidity - who said, "I,m from FEMA and I,m here to help you. The ladies ran one of these "suits out of our neighborhood today when he told them that we can "borrow all the money we needed to rebuild.... with interest. They are no different than the other FED banksters posing as "community banks. Not one of us cares to become one of the new federal sheeple.
 
As of this morning, our area has found the need to organize our own security 24/7. Last night and early this morning, we had thieves driving our streets stealing personal belongings and clothes that had not yet been collected from those neighbors who hadn,t made it back here yet. We now warn all the Miami and Tampa gangs roaming our streets that if you dare to once again trespass in our community, you will deal with better armed resistance from us than you would from the local police and Sheriff,s Departments. Other areas are now doing the same as we are. We will personally protect ourselves and what possessions we have left. We have been through far too much to be victims of prey.
 
It rained hard for an hour today. My house, the temporary home and designated "sanctuary" for a dozen people, had more damage than I thought as water poured into 3 rooms. I guess that,s why they invented buckets. The 3-cylinder diesel generator has been purring non-stop like a kitten and used no oil over the past 2 days. That was the best investment I ever made along with the storage tanks for potable water. I guess I have earned my Boy Scout survival merit badge now.
 
To give credit where credit is due, all the pictures I have posted were taken by my eldest daughter with her own camera and uploaded onto my laptop via a USB connector. She came here for a visit 3 days before Charley arrived and got a vacation she will never forget! I have no working camera of my own right now, but others have been taking pictures and we are trying to find a place to develop the films. After that, and as soon as we find a working scanner, I'll be posting them here on RMN if Rayelan can spare the bandwidth. Be patient... we're working on it.
 
I can only get internet access when driving north 20 miles, so this report may be a little late, but is the latest news I have collected today. Hopefully, I can start using a North Port connection much closer to my house now that power has been restored there.
 
Visiting volunteer police and deputies are very frustrated that their in-car computers and radios do not work with local police and local County law enforcement. The State and Federal alphabet groups seem to care less. The out-of-area volunteer cops have had to escort thieves to the county line instead of arresting them for stealing. Their "law enforcement hands are tied in more ways than one. Thanks guys... we know you,re trying to do all you can to protect us, but we,ll handle it from now on since the STATE legalities won,t allow you do the job you need to do.
 
We have all found out that there is nothing better than a local community effort. We take shifts getting gas for the generators and for buying food, have organized our own security and damage clean-up teams, and the ladies are cooking up a storm with the charcoal and gas grills. Many of us only barely knew each other a week ago. Now, we have become a community family. There are no more blank faces of shock among any of us. We are strengthening each other and working with one another. There is no segregation or racism among us, and we represent a local community of many different races, nationalities, and colors.
 
This is what the Living Light brings to those who seek it. The LifeCross within us all never fails regardless of our circumstances. For the first time any of us have ever remembered, this new neighborhood that now exists has become one... all are one.
 
In this adversity we have and will continue to face, and among all the devastation our eyes see surrounding us, we have learned to be a collective family. For this, all of us are grateful. There is joy in the hardship each of us face with every passing hour. We have found that our daily hardships have made our spirits stronger. Surely, no man, woman, or child has been left behind among us. We encourage and strengthen each other. This is what Life is all about.
 
Michael Edward

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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Re: What's the latest in Florida?

Auendove wrote:

Okay, I've been thinking about this since you posted it. 8/1-13th is the only window of time time travel can happen?
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Auendove - just to keep a sense of flow with this topic, let's pick up your discussion in another thread.  Interesting points, and I'm interested also in understanding more about how August/Time-Travel/Hyper-dimensional Portals/Energy Grid Alignment/Cycles fit together.

Re: What's the latest in Florida?

Michael Edward wrote:

Charlotte Harbor areas - 58 dead as of 5pm today; Fort Myers & the barrier islands - 21 deaths as of 3pm today; Punta Gorda - 275+ deaths and escalating each hour; Desoto County - 36 deaths, expected to increase;

These figures came from our own eyes, medical personnel, various county sheriff's deputies, and eye witnesses or residents from the worst devastated areas. CNN and the rest of the world biased and controlled media are fooling none of us who live here. The current CONFIRMED body count in our 3 county area on the west coast of Florida is near 400 as I write this.

FCOL lyra!  They stated on the CBS Evening News yesterday at near 7 PM that the death toll from Charley was 21!  What the...?

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

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