Topic: Discovery/Declassification of Pluto holographically connected in time?

I was also just thinking about how the coming events of 2007 may be a reflection of the 40's. . which got me onto a little thought experiment on fractal time. 

I assumed 12/21/12 is the singularity point and 13 years is the fractal equivalent of one year in time, which are obviously both arguable assumptions, but I found one interesting result so far. 

2006 (actually 21 Dec 2005 -  21 Dec 2006) correlates to the period of 1922-1934.  If you overlay those two periods of time and plot the discovery of Pluto (18 Feb 30) and the date of its declassification as a planet (24 Aug 2006), they are in conjunction within 3 degrees. 

Under this model, the coming week would correlate to the Fall of 1931. . I'm going to see if anything turns of up. . would also love to hear from anybody else that notices anything.

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Re: Discovery/Declassification of Pluto holographically connected in time?

I couldn't help but take a look at the correlation between 9/11 and its counterpart in 1865.


From Wikipedia:

    * April 9 - American Civil War: General Robert E. Lee surrenders to Ulysses S. Grant at Appomattox, effectively ending the American Civil War.
    * April 14 - US President Abraham Lincoln is shot at Ford's Theatre by John Wilkes Booth.
    * July 4 - Lewis Carroll publishes Alice's Adventures in Wonderland
    * July 5
          o William Booth founds the Christian Mission (later renamed to the Salvation Army).
          o US Secret Service founded.
    * December 11 - U.S. Congress created the Appropriations Committee and the Committee on Banking and Commerce.
    * December 18 - Thirteenth Constitutional amendment declared ratified by three-fourths of the States of the United States. It forever abolished slavery.
    * December 24 - Several US Civil War Confederate veterans form the Ku Klux Klan.

    * Gregor Mendel formulates his theories of Mendelian inheritance- they are mainly ignored for years.
    * Francis Galton introduces Eugenics.

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Re: Discovery/Declassification of Pluto holographically connected in time?

23 Oct 06 - Panamanians vote to expand the Panama Canal
08 Nov 31 - Panama canal closed due to earthquake damage

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Re: Discovery/Declassification of Pluto holographically connected in time?

I think it's all very repetitive as in cycles.  Things look a bit different but a yet terribly similar.  Like this cycle it's the US who is the bad guy just as Germany was the bad guy back then.  And the US is looking a lot like the Roman Empire, too.  I don't think time is linear at all.

5 (edited by montalk 2006-10-30 19:19:51)

Re: Discovery/Declassification of Pluto holographically connected in time?

Looks like you're on to something:

Hitler was elected dictator on March 23, 1933.

This corresponds to November 3-4, 2006. Election Day is November 7, 2006.

Also the Holocaust:

                 September 10, 1938 (Kristallnacht) - May 8, 1945 (V-Day)

corresponds to:

                                                   April 5, 2007 - October 10, 2007

If the correspondence is a reflection, as in mirror reversal, then Hitler coming to power might correspond to election results that are anti-dictator. Opposite of a holocaust might be an uprising.

[edited later: for the above dates, I used this online calculator that I wrote.]

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6 (edited by tenetnosce 2006-10-25 04:42:21)

Re: Discovery/Declassification of Pluto holographically connected in time?

Very interesting. . . thanks for the link to the calculator.

I'm in the process of scanning all the headlines in the NY Times from 20 Sep 31 to 21 Dec 31.  There are almost 43K of them and I've got through the first 2K so far.  I am looking for major world events, economic indicators, tech/science news, deaths of famous people, strange/quirky stories, and anything my intuition jumps out at.  Out of the 2K I've scanned, I've made notes on 50 headlines. . . that puts me on track for about 1000 headlines.

The next step is to scan news from this week that bears a direct causal connection, or just an uncanny similarity to the headlines I preselected.

Will keep you updated. . .

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Re: Discovery/Declassification of Pluto holographically connected in time?

Also found this:

29 Oct 29     Stock Market Crash
03 Oct 06     Stock Market Record Highs

Variance < 8 %

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8 (edited by tenetnosce 2006-10-29 13:59:17)

Re: Discovery/Declassification of Pluto holographically connected in time?

18 Sep 31   Japanese troops occupy Manchuria
18 Sep 06   China marks Japanese invasion with war-crime film

21 Sep 31   Hitler's Niece Commits Suicide
18 Sep 06   Hitler himself killed niece

21 Sep 31   Manila fears a typhoon
29 Oct 06   Typhoon to hit Manila

21 Sep 31   Jobless in Europe at Record Figure
14 Aug 06   Unemployment hits record low in EU

21 Sep 31   Most severe quake since 1924 rocks Tokyo
15 Oct 06   Earthquake rocks Hawaii
(In both cases one quake and one afterquake with surprisingly minimal damage)

24 Sep 31   New alien policy has barred 146,000
27 Oct 06   Bush signs off on fencing along U.S.-Mexico border

25 Sep 31   Scientists in London battle over Darwin
29 Oct 06   Project on the origins of life launched: Harvard joining debate on evolution

25 Sep 31   Yugoslav premier quits
29 Oct 06   Serbs vote on Constitution, Kosovo

26 Sep 31   Hypnotist to make television tests
29 Sep 31   Burnett aiming to hypnotize TV viewers

26 Sep 31   Ex-Premier of Poland killed in auto crash
10 Oct 06   Polish PM implicates Walesa in [auto crash] plot 

26 Sep 31   Science to aid task of scaling Everest
29 Oct 06   Diabetic climber conquers Mt. Everest

26 Sep 31   Adopt dollars for exchange; Uruguay clarifies exchange law
02 Oct 06   Uruguay and United States start trade talks

26 Sep 31   Bolivia suspends payments in gold
16 Oct 06   Bolivia to nationalize mining

26 Sep 31   Coe urges 'super-police'
14 Oct 06   'Super stations' to make cops more efficient

27 Sep  31  New [turbine engine] plane for stratosphere
24 Oct 06   MIT researchers are developing a [turbine] 'engine-on-a-chip'

27 Sep 31   Sees Panama Canal sufficing 20 years; Gov. Burgess thinkgs a third lock would carry traffic 'indefinitely'
23 Oct 06   Third lock approved for Panama Canal

29 Sep 31   Weigh federal ban on short selling
25 Oct 06   Record short interest pushing market higher

29 Sep 31  Deaths rise to 12 in Chaco conflict
22 Oct 06   Paraguay in a spin about Bush's alleged 100,000 acre [Chaco] hideaway

29 Sep 31   Mad vampire bats spread hydrophobia
20 Oct 06   [Vampire] Bat saliva might aid stroke victims

29 Sep 31   Bond protective group formed
27 Oct 06   Ye old plunge protection team going global

01 Oct 31   New air safety law in New York and New Jersey effective today
14 Oct 06   Pilots debate if new rules make skies safer after NYC crash

01 Oct 31   Cotton drops again to new 1931 lows
21 Oct 06   Uncertainty brings cotton price down

01 Oct 31   Says a brown race exists in America; E.R. Embree holds fusion of whites, blacks, and  yellow browns
18 Oct 06   Humanity to split into two sub-species?

11 Oct 31   See outbreak's end in [infantile] paralysis here
29 Oct 06   Failed vaccine campaigns may lead to polio resurgence, experts warn.

11 Oct 31  Cardinals champions, taking final game 4-2
28 Oct 06   Cards take World Series in Game 5 (4-2)

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Re: Discovery/Declassification of Pluto holographically connected in time?

hello all

i just want to chime in here and say that i don't understand the math on this thread completely, but LOOK AT THOSE DATES!!

i mean, how weird is it for all these similar-connected things to happen on mathematically correlated dates??!!

the uruguay exchange one, the hypnotist on TV one? not to mention the cards.....geez....more thoughts on this now that you have the headlines, tenetnosce??

peace all

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10 (edited by ontrack24 2006-10-30 14:31:12)

Re: Discovery/Declassification of Pluto holographically connected in time?

Some of these were quite good, tenetnosce. Clearly something to it all - time spiralling indeed, I guess you could say...

Pretty crazy really, but it kind of makes sense too..

So the war is probably coming sometime next year then, judging from your first post here... - or - "anti-war=rebellion against tptb(?)"
OMG are proper words here... and I can't help but wonder if Schwarzenegger somehow comes into the
picture, seeing as he's german and all that.. I really feel he's going for something/being groomed for something,
before he's out of the picture...

Looking good, looking good </irony>

Re: Discovery/Declassification of Pluto holographically connected in time?

Here is a diagram that shows visually what is behind the math:

http://montalk.net/timespiral.jpg

In this thread tenetnosce was talking about two dates that reflect each other, a newer date closer to 2012 and older date farther in the past. The time difference between the newer date and 2012 makes up one of the smaller half-circles in the diagram. If you go back from 2012 thirteen times that difference, you arrive at the older date it reflects.

I'm writing a small Python program to do this automatically, finding the newer date given the older, or older date given the newer. Will try embedding it in a web-page so that anyone here can just punch in a date and find the other.

If this theory is valid, then it suggests that the closer we get to 2012, the closer these two dates (newer and older) become until on winter solstice 2012 they merge.

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Re: Discovery/Declassification of Pluto holographically connected in time?

So I put up an online calculator to calculate the old date corresponding to a more recent one, and vice versa.

Because time of day is not figured into this, calculating the older date leaves a large window of approximation. A one day wiggle room for a newer date equals thirteen days for the older date. So it's better to input the older date to calculate the new, otherwise just remember that the older date is approximate within 13 days.

Links:

Calculate Newer Date

Calculate Older Date

enter the date like this:   10 23 2006     or   4 18 1933

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Re: Discovery/Declassification of Pluto holographically connected in time?

Enter Old Date:

Sept 1 1939

The beginning of WW2.

New Date:

May 3 2007


I guess we'll have to wait and see. Good test for your hypothesis.

14 (edited by wandering1 2006-10-31 20:28:16)

Re: Discovery/Declassification of Pluto holographically connected in time?

tenetnosce wrote:

I was also just thinking about how the coming events of 2007 may be a reflection of the 40's. . which got me onto a little thought experiment on fractal time. 

I assumed 12/21/12 is the singularity point and 13 years is the fractal equivalent of one year in time, which are obviously both arguable assumptions, but I found one interesting result so far. 

2006 (actually 21 Dec 2005 -  21 Dec 2006) correlates to the period of 1922-1934.

I find this area of inquiry very interesting.  In the book "The Invisible Landscape" (1975), Terence McKenna proposed something similar with regard to the fractal nature of time.  Also, Carl Calleman, in his book, "The Mayan Calendar and the Transformation of Consciousness" (2004) elaborated a similar model. 

Daniel Pinchbeck, in his book "2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl" (2006) summarized the Calleman model and Pinchbeck has been referring to it in his public speaking.

So these ideas are available for people who are interested in them.

According to the Calleman model, which is based on his interpretation of the Mayan calendar, there are alternating periods of "day" and "night."  In this model, the “Fifth Night"  is approaching and corresponds to the period Nov. 19, 2007 to Nov. 13, 2008, which corresponds to the previous period 1932-1952 (Great Depression, World War II), which corresponds to the previous period of approximately 400A.D. to 800A.D. when there was a “temporary return to a tribelike world of nomadic Huns and marauding Germanic tribes."

He has the specifics in his book and also some free stuff on his website: http://www.calleman.com/

Now his specific timeline may be off, but the theory is that in the next year or two, we are going to see some major events unfold which echo the World II/Nazi era.  Of course, one could claim that we are already seeing this now.  I feel that we may be entering a period of intensification of totalitarian tendencies, but these will not last.  These models suggest a hopeful outlook in that the worst of it may only last a year or so (and maybe even less). 

Whatever the specifics, the models suggest an acceleration of change.  For several years, I have been thinking that if we are going to see the type of change that some people say will happen by the general 2012 period, a major global consciousness shift, then it is likely that in the current period, we will increasingly live through major changes.  The type of changes where it will be clear to almost everyone that we are living through momentous times and the “business and life as usual"  period is over.  I don’t think we are quite there yet.

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Also, montalk, nice work on the timespiral diagram and calculator!