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lyra--I think what you said about not being "ready" or "mature" enough to see them
has some merit.  Those psychic ladies who were observing the -not human- person
at WalMart were acting responsibly.  We should know that this bubble of denial is
being maintained so that the whole population doesn't freak out at once. 
But we can confide in trusted friends.
One thing about revolutionary types, which many of us are here at NR, is that
we are gregarious.  We like the company of our kind.  At least we can share our
insights and thoughts with people of like mind.
I've found that when I'm concentrating on "seeing" a la don Juan, that I can't do it.
It's only when I'm not trying to do it that I notice things and then it's only when I
replay it in my mind's eye.
I vividly remember an incident when I was in the Navy.  I was telling a joke or
making some kind of cynical comment and this guy with dead grey eyes stared
at me and there was NOTHING going on behind those eyes.  I found out later that
he was a Jehova's Witness.

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thr33tim3 wrote:

I find it extremely cold and heartless on the "universe's" part to have a system such as this.

So, then, if you were meant to, how could you be derailed from this process by the bumblings of your physical incarnation? Isn't it bigger than that? Does the guidance suddenly cut out if you make a goof stumbling about in your awakening-but-not-100%-awake state?

The end of the cycle in our little sector of this immense galaxy among innumerable galaxies contained within innumerable universes, is not the end.  If you screw up you have an eternity to get it right.

That's one of the ways religions hook people into fear.  "You have one life to get it right.  If you don't you go to hell."  To that I say Male Bovine Excrement!  My Father is not callous.  Nor is my Father impatient.  This sandbox we call the universe is billions of years old.  How much more valuable are the children in the sandbox?  Would not the children get at least the consideration that the sandbox has been given?

Spiritual Anxiety can be remedied with a healthy dose of Perspective.

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Transcix wrote:

We must all get ready, in terms of personal fortitude, force of will, self-realization and patience and tolerance to self and others

Agreed. smile

On the subject of the enemy/Illuminati/government/bankers/media etc.  Now despite all they have supposedly done, I don't even know any of them, and I don't see them as an enemy per say.  They may send in their distraction and fear tactics as an attack, but that doesn't make them my enemy.  And plus, in a way they have helped my to "wake up" metaphorically speaking.

Transcix wrote:

they disseminate vital information they are allowed to (strictly without infringing on our free will), and they, for instance, create some of the wonderful TV shows that help us all on Gaea learn how to make things work in this dark time, shows such as Star Trek and Andromeda.

I am curious about this.  This summer I was drawn to Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. I really enjoyed that show and ended up watching all 7 seasons this summer.  Hehe, yeah thats a lot of Star Trek, but it was very inspirational for me.  Do you have any references to that information (on the creation of the television shows...)? And why are those shows disseminating vital information, and do you have any specific examples from an episode?  Thanks.

"Beyond the stars a new world awaits me now" - Wintersun

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z3n3rg wrote:

If you screw up you have an eternity to get it right.

One time talking to an entity I said “I may have screwed this incarnation"
and he said “no problem, what importance some years have to the eternity?"

Bye, Pictus

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Timothy Leary, for example, describes how there is more than TV than meets the eye and how we will do the Star Trek thing in the future. The Next Generation is one of the best series in this regard, along with Voyager, and Andromeda is absolutely remarkable in this regard. I remember an episode of Andromeda pinning down the nature of the cosmic fool precisely. It's difficult to describe any instance in particular because I don't remember any word-for-word, but if you watch with an open mind and consider what to look for, you'll begin to see it. I recommend Andromeda above all... it talks about Andromeda galaxy and Sirius and all these things that are actually real... metaphore can be found in Battlestar Galactica the new series as well... and in The Matrix... and Lord of the Rings and Prince Arthur and his sword is the same thing, and Gandalf is Merlin I think. Isaac Asimov's Foundation series and I Robot has significance too, especially the fool in Foundation series... Hollywood is full of the conspiracy, as well as some angels..

nothing is sacred, the deconstructing and letting-be of all things, clarity of sight, the realization of no-thing(s), Nothing

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thr33tim3 wrote:

I find it extremely cold and heartless on the "universe's" part to have a system such as this.

So, then, if you were meant to, how could you be derailed from this process by the bumblings of your physical incarnation? Isn't it bigger than that? Does the guidance suddenly cut out if you make a goof stumbling about in your awakening-but-not-100%-awake state?

I think that's where free will comes into play.  There is an upside and a downside two it, and you can't have one without the other.  I suspect our "personalities" here on Earth have free will from our souls as well.  So this adds another wrinkle to things.

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Yea, free-will is biotch.  A double-edged sword.  The entities that are too f***ing retarded to learn how to expand themselves and create their own energy have to feed off others.  In a free-will universe that is allowed.  On the bright side, their stupidity is a great motivator for those that may be caught under them.  I don't want to feed a bunch of retards that can't figure out how to evolve any more than the cows do.  Oh poor cows.  I'm so sorry humanity is a backward, dim-witted, dopey, dull, feeble-minded, lamebrained, mentally defective, moronic, slow, doltish, ignorant, obtuse, and idiotic bunch.  Rise up and fight for your bovine freedom and raise your large heads high!

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/1143/1105092184df3.jpgCows with Guns

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Yeah, the universe can seem cold and heartless much of the time. Something written by Carlos Castenada seems relevant here:

"Another issue related to intent, but transposed to the level of universal intending, was, for the shamans of ancient Mexico the energetic fact that we are continually pushed and pulled and tested by the universe itself. It was for them an energetic fact that the universe in general is predatorial to the maximum, but not predatorial in the sense in which we understand the term: the act of plundering or stealing, or injuring or exploiting others for one's own gain. For the shamans of ancient Mexico, the predatory condition of the universe meant that the intending of the universe is to be continually testing awareness. They saw that the universe creates zillions of organic beings and zillions of inorganic beings. By exerting pressure on all of them, the universe forces them to enhance their awareness, and in this fashion, the universe attempts to become aware of itself. In the cognitive world of shamans, therefore, awareness is the final issue."

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I am not at all sure what I think about Pod People - mainly because there appears to be so many different types of them.

Last weekend I was talking too my brother, and somehow the conversation turned to religion.  He asked after a buddy of mine, and I mentioned I hadn't heard from this buddy for a while as he had been fasting on Ramadan.  Instantly my brother reacted with "It's a funny old religion" *snicker*.  I wasn't going to say anything but then said "Well maybe they fast in order to learn something".

His reaction was exactly as LipstickMystic said in her initial post.  Flaring nostrils, raising of the arms, rolling of the eyes.  This is how it has always been with him.  So for the first time ever I tried to push things out a little.  "Why do you always react like that?" - I asked in a very reasonable, curious tone.  He looked at me as asked; "Like what?"

"Well - as though you don't like what I am saying."  Again I got the same reaction.  I asked him what it meant, and that talking and thinking about such things was a part of me.  It's who I am.  I asked him why he had a problem with this.  And yet again came the same reaction, but each time he reacted like this, he withdrew a little more...into his own shell.  And so I still pushed some more.

"Why do you cut yourself off like that?"  By now he was getting anti, and very defensive.  Not only that; there was a hell of a lot of restrained aggression building up within him.

Fight or Flight?  I thought so for sure.

Intrigued, I kept on pushing.  "If can’t tell me about why I bother you so much, I can never change.  I just want to be able to relate to you...what is it about me that is causing this reaction in you?"

He moved to the far end of the room.  His body language stiff, his face miserable as sin.  He told me to just shut up...that I had no clue.  My mum was there, and for once she sided with me (although I want to be clear I wasn't trying to create an argument).  She said; "Just tell him how you feel, then you can sort things out."  But he turned away and fled the room.

It was a strange situation, and was one of a number of things that has caused me to see my brother in a very different light.  What I learnt was that his depth of thought was very shallow.  Not because he can't think, but because he chooses not to - and would very actively and aggressively do anything to maintain that.

But why?  Is he emotionally crippled?  Is he somehow stunted in his development?  (Rhetorical questions I think). Both he and I were raised in exactly the same way - yet we are opposites in almost every way imaginable.

I had a dream sometime latter - and saw him as he was when he was about 12 years of age.

And then I realised that people for the most part do ok up to just before they become teenagers...and then things drastically change.  And for a vast majority of people they seem to physically and mentally get to the age of around 16 and then even though their body matures, their mind does not.

Sure they gain new experiences, and entrench themselves deeper and deeper into routine and rote, yet their minds and awareness just do not develop.  Is puberty when they really start to become Pods – or is it at a younger age?

Either way I see many different types of Pods, we could probably create some form of list even: big_smile

Routine Pod - stuck in 100% routine.
Job Pod - can't see anything outside of the job.
Money Pod - everything is about money.
Fear Pod - scared to do anything other than the things they have already experienced.
Sports Pod - everything is about competition, not necessarily just sports, but bank balance and material accumulation too.
Diversion Pod - everything is about them, they divert every situation so that the focus is always on them.
Aggression Pod - attack everything and everyone constantly, for a variety of reasons...but mostly due to low self-esteem.

And there are many others...

I don't really like making up such labels, but let’s be honest - this is pretty much what this thread is all about.  Pods are the very definition of "stereo-type".  A few of them just focus on a single of those traits, and it is then very dominant within their character.  You can normally pick up on this type of Pod and their Trait simply by looking at them.

Others have a bit of a mix and match of these traits.  Mostly this sort are slightly easier to get along with.

Maybe we all have these traits in us.  Perhaps that is largely what it is all about.  The more Pod-Traits an individual has, the more chance they have of awakening and breaking free.  That kinda makes and odd sort of logical sense when you think about it.  Those that only let a single or small number of traits dominate them - of course are never going to go anywhere.

With all the Pods I have met - it has mostly been psychological and emotional issues that have caused them to be the way they are...and their Pod-Traits are their security blankets. 

There are of course other things going on such as entity attachments and demon-infestation.  Those things are a bit more tricky to see when you aren't sensitive to seeing that sort of thing (I am not sensitive to that sort of thing, but have started to identify physical traits that indicate entity attachments within people).  I think a lot of people and certainly most Pods have entity-attachments on one level or another.  But generally those entities only become "active" in certain emotional situations - and quite often such entities display the epitome of Pod behaviour...though not always, sometimes things get very odd.

Anyway after all that - the one point I really want to make, is that Pod People really do fear the likes of us - and the things we think and talk about.  I am not sure many of us get the opportunity to really push a Pod to their limits with regards to what sort of topics they will tolerate.  From what I can see though - when you do push it really does seem to activate a Flight of Fight response...and that in itself is very interesting...

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Lono wrote:

Wow, now this conversation has taken some new and interesting turns.  Marcus, I've had the exact same question in mind:  Why are we not pod people?  In the past, I've chalked it up to a difficult childhood, which either forces you to be an individual who doesn't take authority at face value, or it crushes you. 

Okay, show of hands (for anyone who feels comfortable answering this):  How many of you, like me and Lyra, had a difficult or unusual upbringing?  It wouldn't necessarily have to be traumatic, just different.

I had an abusive childhood.  My sister, a pod person of the personality vampire type, was spared this because my pod mother, of the "I only exhibit fake emotions" type, doted on her and thought she could do no wrong and that I could do no right.

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Mutant Mouse--your post gives a good example of a reason to cut off ties with
your family once you are able to do that.  Undoubtedly you learned some valuable
lessons from your petty tyrants--as don Juan would call them.  These lessons
can hopefllully serve you to avoid the energy stealing creeps among us.  Or to
trick them into shooting themselves in the foot.
Good luck and good wishes!
TP

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Good list Marcus. wink  Don't forget about Distraction Pods.  Distraction Pods are all about entertainment and distraction, 24/7.  They're the ones obsessively playing their computer and online games every day, with the huge movie collection and top of the line entertainment centers.   I used to know somebody like this, but he definitely isn't the only one like this.  He retreated from the world and became a hermit practically.  Only left his house to go to work and come home, and then spent all his free time playing those online community computer games and ordering movies from some service off the 'net.  Probably Net Flix or something.    He even did his shopping online so he wouldn't have to leave his apartment.   I would joke to myself that if he could have plugged himself into some sort of Virtual Reality game pod capsule and be attached to that for the rest of his life, with tubes attached to him for feeding and waste removal, then he would have.   It was pretty bad.  !   I'd try to talk to him about the weird stuff, since he had been my friend for a long time and was an unusual character and - supposedly - open to this stuff, and he'd follow me for most of the way.  But then like a rubber band he'd only stretch so far, and would visibly become uncomfortable, wanting to retreat back to his games and movies and distraction and hermit existence.  He's what I guess could be called a "mainstream nonconformist."  He rejected his Catholic upbringing to become a Wiccan, but that's about as nonconformist as he seems able to go, which to me is still pretty mainstream, hence the nifty title of mainstream nonconformist.   

Guess we're all like rubber bands.  Some stretch a lot further than others.

So, speaking of pods.....Right now at work I'm helping this one woman clear out her hundreds of emails, so I have to sift through them and weed out the ones that need to be deleted. (Total time killer task to fill in my last day on this assignment.)  Keep in mind this is an investment firm, so it's populated by white collar, money obsessed guys, (and a few women) who all wear business clothes and tote their lap tops around and read the Wall Street Journal and spend half their life in airplanes and hotels traveling to meeetings around the country, discussing money and investments and the stock market.  yay.   (is there a yawning emoticon?? http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/37.gif  )   So with that in mind, in skimming through these emails it's disturbing.  So much "Pod Speak" going on.  All this fake emotion and fake warmth and sincerity.  Corportate filler lingo galore.  If I see another ".....Just a head's up....." and "...want to touch base...." I'm going to scream.  haha  They're like robots.  Fake-excited emails proclaiming excited things about things that are actually not exciting, in this smooth, slick, polished way of speaking that sounds like the equivelant of a spotlessly polished shiny clinical and cold all white room. (versus a homey cluttered room full of color and soft furniture.  If that analogy makes sense.)

Add on:

DAH!!!!  The very next email in the list starts out with, "Going forward...."

My all time #1 pet peeve Pod Person corporate filler phrase.   grrr.    wink

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Mutant Mouse wrote:

I had an abusive childhood.  My sister, a pod person of the personality vampire type, was spared this because my pod mother, of the "I only exhibit fake emotions" type, doted on her and thought she could do no wrong and that I could do no right.

Unfortunately, this seems to happen a lot.  Sorry this had to happen to you, but you're not alone.  I think what's amazing is that people actually come out of this intact, able to see that the situation and the family were screwed up, and not them.  Good for you, MM.

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Oh, come on Lyra!  You're just not "a team player."  If you could just "think outside the box" for just a moment, you'd find yourself "moving forward" just like your upwardly mobile co-workers.  They're simply  "striving for excellence" in a "dynamic, fast-paced environment."  lol

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Lono wrote:

Oh, come on Lyra!  You're just not "a team player."  If you could just "think outside the box" for just a moment, you'd find yourself "moving forward" just like your upwardly mobile co-workers.  They're simply  "striving for excellence" in a "dynamic, fast-paced environment."  lol

Where have I heard that before...:P

"There cannot be progress without expression. There cannot be expression without separation. There cannot be separation without progress."-Ouroboros