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Let's not forget that even those who have latent abilities to awaken, given the proper
stimuli or triggers, are being constantly bombarded with non-liberating spam from
religion, pop culture, diseducational institutions, junk food, junk doctors, drugs, food
additives and microwave and ELF radiation, polution, and mindless memes promulgated
by the puppets of the Archonic forces to keep humanity dumbed down. 

One must be fortunate enough or discerning enough to see thru the detritus which clouds
everything which would lead to the truth.  Some people may have been previously
innoculated against this, maybe from a previous lifetime or two.  And some people may
have innately or intuitively known that we're going wrong in this culture and have attempted
to find a way out. 

To accuse or confront pods or negative souled individuals who are working for the bad guys
can be very risky to your health.  Better to identify and avoid until you can fight on the
battlefield of your choice.
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But their only weapon is fear and intimidation, as long as you keep playing along by the rules of your culture... you see, how you're thinking is exactly how they want you to respond.

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Tom Paine wrote:

To accuse or confront pods or negative souled individuals who are working for the bad guys
can be very risky to your health.  Better to identify and avoid until you can fight on the
battlefield of your choice.

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My point is that we must not succumb to their sharade but, rather, meet them with understanding and compassion, albeit in a firm and decisive way. We must help them change.

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141 (edited by visavis 2006-10-19 21:19:50)

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montalk wrote:

I have come across enough people who seem entirely incapable of responding in any original or sentient manner to experiences that I must conclude there are permanent pods who cannot awaken in this life because it is not their purpose to learn and develop, merely to exist and grow.

Could it also be possible that many of them are failing their purpose?  That they've succumbed to programming and negative influences, ie:

Tom Paine wrote:

religion, pop culture, diseducational institutions, junk food, junk doctors, drugs, food
additives and microwave and ELF radiation, polution, and mindless memes

...in a way which was not intended as part of their purpose?  (But perhaps allowable, as "acceptable casualties", in the macro-purpose?  Or is the universe more compassionate than that?)

I see the spark slowly go away from many, which leads me to ponder this.  Sparks have purpose I think, inherently.  But when they are extinguished, what purpose (or "who's purpose perhaps), do they serve? 

Maybe though, we aren't seeing total extinguishment.  That would happen though I think if tptb got their way and created a race of complete meat popsicles.

"The unknown does not incite fear, but dependence on the known does." - J. Krishnamurti

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I don't think anyone is proposing succumbing to their way of "living" except other pods and
those who wish to keep the society conforming to the master plan, which is to stamp out
any person who threatens the status quo of ignorance.
You can't force anyone to change, and you can't really help people change unless they
have a desire to change.
Non pods who are of a positive bent are basically tolerant of differences, just like the pagan
religions that existed before the advent of the xtians.  But the xtians co-opted and stamped
out all of the pagan earth based religions with INTOLERANCE, FORCE AND VIOLENCE.
This is what we are up against.  Yes compassion and understanding are valuable and
in fact necessary, but throwing buckets of love at STS types is like throwing buckets of
vomit, to quote the C's.

Montalk--thanks for the visual!  That's exactly what came to mind in my previous post!

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Remember to distinguish between the potentiality that all may realize enlightenment and the probability that only some will.

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Visavis wrote:

Could it also be possible that many of them are failing their purpose?  That they've succumbed to programming and negative influences

Of course, that is the case for souled but asleep people who slide deeper into sleep as life goes on, becoming atrophied by the overwhelming odds this world offers against the awakening of a spiritual impulse within, against it continuing after awakening without major derailment by the many temptations and deceptions available. Things could get bad enough, and not just through pain but through distraction, routine, mechanization, indulgence, etc... that what's left of them soon enough evaporates and all that continues on is an echo of their former selves.

However, parallel to this I believe I have observed individuals who are young - elementary school children, junior high, high school, college, 20s, 30s whose behavior correlates with a lack of "presence" behind their eyes, and some of them are not beat down in life but instead excelling enthusiastically at what would be ultimately unfulfilling for even a souled person who has empathy and the ability and need for introspection at times. So I'm saying that aside from the variations among soul needs, aside from how many are asleep or too severely programmed to ever wake up in this life, there is another parallel phenomena of something lacking from the start rather than suppressed.

Much more needs to be considered here, like the difference between asleep souled pods and the empty pods. That is something to ponder. I mean, even if you are asleep, as long as there is something higher in you there will be synchronistic guidance in your life whether you realize it or not, a loose blueprint shaping the course of things, bending probability; you may be given symbolic messages through dreams even if you don't care to remember or interpret them; even if you are programmed, the bounds of your beliefs will be fuzzy and unusual things can and will make you go "huh" sooner or later, even if you put it out if your mind later; you will feel real empathy for something -- even souled psychopaths have empathy although it's twisted, like Hitler lamenting the death of his dogs while sending what he considered subhumans to death without blinking; and your experiences in life will, in one way or another, cause you to change gradually and deeply as the years go by, whereby you evolve as a soul rather than merely "adapting" like some artificial intelligence program -- even if you eventually freeze or evaporate as a soul and continue on without further evolving while staying alive; you will have some level of depth to your eyes, which are the windows to the soul, and thus exhibit dimensionality to your soul no matter how boring or programmed your personality, a depth and dimension that can be perceived by clairvoyants even if it's suppressed from behavioral expression by programming; you will have incarnated with strengths and weaknesses shaped by who you were outside this current lifetime and therefore be more than the sum of your social and genetic influences in this incarnation alone, and after death you will remain intact in consciousness to inhabit another body; you will have your own higher self and higher chakras that continue to do their job even if you are consciously oblivious or disconnected from them; you would have any or all of these things while a permanent pod who lacks that higher "something" would have none of these.

You see, there is a difference between the programmed asleep soul and the embryonic soul that has yet to even be "born" as an individualized soul with its own personal destiny and spiritual learning curriculum. That's all I was pointing out here, the subtle difference between similars that are easy to overlook, like how apples and oranges are identically fruit that grow on trees, but not completely the same thing; that an orange can sometimes be green like an apple still doesn't make it an apple because of differences that go deeper than surface appearances.

Transcix wrote:

Remember to distinguish between the potentiality that all may realize enlightenment and the probability that only some will.

Excellent reminder, though one I did not forget. In context of eternity, mice have as much potential to realize enlightenment as humans do, as would rocks and plants for that matter once they reach the point of self-awareness and go beyond it enough to choose their path and follow it across the threshold of enlightenment. But clearly there is a fundamental difference in soul quality and life purpose between the average mouse and the average human, and I am suggesting that even within the human population there is a fundamental difference between embryonic souls (permanent pods) in human bodies and infant / young / asleep / mature souls in human bodies. The latter have individualized destinies, learn lessons, reincarnate; whether they awaken is probabilistic. The first don't seem to be interested in anything beyond the matrix because they are here for reasons that do not require them to, and their chances of awakening in this life are zero, not even a matter of probability. In another cycle of evolution perhaps they will gain that higher component to begin their treck to enlightenment, but I do not believe that within their lifetimes, or within their current cycle of soul development, they can even come close to that.

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Haha check this out lol

http://www.atpm.com/11.09/pod-people.shtml

written on 9/11!!

Change we must, to live again
- Jon Anderson

146 (edited by lyra 2006-10-20 05:44:25)

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Transcix wrote:

We must help them change.

It's not up to us to "help" anybody "change."   Dictating how another being "should" be, according to what you deam "acceptable" is ultimately service to self.   Just let them be.  Let them do as they will, it's what suits them.  Meanwhile, march to your own drummer and be the way that you feel is best for yourself.
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Something else to keep in mind for this thread is the idea that there are those walking among us who aren't human.  "People" who aren't people, and who are only masquerading as such.  I can't personally attest to this - have never witnessed shapeshifting, (although I'd like to and have requested to see this multiple times) or people being shadowed, but I know some very psychic people who have.  They were trustworthy sources for me, so I believe them.  These masqueraders were walking among the ordinary masses, out and about in public.  Including here where we live, in Virginia.   At a McDonalds.  At a Whole Foods supermarket.  At Wal*Mart.  At a garden club.  ! Everyday "people" but who weren't actually human.   Then there are the stories of people who have no auras. Of seemingly random, unrelated people within a crowd who had auras that flickered on and off....at the same time.  One NR poster recounted a story of a jogger that she passed by who disappeared and flickered back again, as if the jogger was merely a hologram/holographic insert.   

And the sense that I've gotten over time is that many people aren't ready to face this.  Even the aware types who know about such "crazy" ideas tend to forget this aspect of things.   Personally, I think I'm purposely not being allowed to witness such things, despite the many times I've requested to have "the sight," because admittedly if I did see a non-human masquerader for the longest time I probably would have had a similar reaction to the Donald Sutherland "Body Snatchers" picture posted above!   big_smile  big_smile  It would be the opposite of the movie - a real human going beserk over seeing a non-human faker in a crowd.  "SHE'S NOT REAL!!  SHE'S NOT REAL!!  I SAW YOU SHAPESHIFT!!  YOU BIG LIAR!!!!  AAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!"   hahaha  So yeah, there's probably a very good reason I "can't" see this stuff, but yet, have crossed paths with those who have.  I have a need to know, but I'm not "mature enough" to handle witnessing it for myself.  I'd be too compelled to say something, whereas the psychic people I've met who have seen these non-humans in the every day world instead got scared, or at least, very nervous, and just kept their mouths shut.   Two of the women who were together during one particular incident at Wal*Mart didn't even want the non-human masquerader to know that they were looking at him, that's how skittish it made them. 

Anyway, just wanted to bring this up as something else to consider for why things are the way they are and why many people may be the way they are.  If we all had the ability to "see" then the cover would be blown off this entire operation.  It would be like the movie "They Live."



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I've asked to see this stuff too.  I suppose I must admit that I may not be mature enough to "just let them be" if I seen them.



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Sometimes I try to gain the "sight" ala Don Juan.  I'll be wandering around the town, waiting for a bus or just walking home and observing the scenes, and I'll relax my vision as much as I can and look slightly above or around the persons body, but I can't ever see anything.  Although I do feel relaxed, but no auras or luminous eggs.  I've always wanted to "see" energy.  The closest I get is when everything is dark and I see things floating around, could just be my eyes though.

To the subject on hand, I've noticed that people with the spark (non-pods) are just scared, understandably.  Only my opinion, but I think they keep talking because they are afraid of silence and everything that comes with it, uncertainty, although thats only on the surface! If they only knew what lay within that silence.  But this doesn't apply for all the people with the spark, as some become STS and energy drainers. 

You are the Sun of your own Universe.  Or.  You are the Black Hole of your own Universe.  Choose your Destiny.

See http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=3373

So, consciously or not, most have made a choice for the spiral inwards rather than out. 

One NR poster recounted a story of a jogger that she passed by who disappeared and flickered back again, as if the jogger was merely a hologram/holographic insert.

Reminds me of the movie the devils advocate.  Basically there were these people who at first seemed like "succesful business" workers that turned out to be shapeshifting, souless demons working for the devil.  And one guy who went against (the lawfirm) was jogging and these demons (or whatever they were) were jogging but would disapear and reapear all over the place - eventually catching the guy.


And to add another funny pod person moment - although I really can't distinguish between them - is my current boss.  We we're working late and he just out of nowhere started giving advice.  And *drumroll* his advice was "A friend will help you move, but a good friend will help you move your body".  *sigh*

Again, society is just conditioned (those with the spark) to act "alien" to one another, and when interaction does occur it consists of programed responses and questions aka "I'll drain your energy" type questions - like the control dramas explained in the celestine prophecy.

Whats going on in the world?  I have no clue.  And seeing how death isn't 'negative' and not something to fear, I think this is one creative scenario we find ourselves in.

"Beyond the stars a new world awaits me now" - Wintersun

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visavis wrote:
montalk wrote:

I have come across enough people who seem entirely incapable of responding in any original or sentient manner to experiences that I must conclude there are permanent pods who cannot awaken in this life because it is not their purpose to learn and develop, merely to exist and grow.

Could it also be possible that many of them are failing their purpose?  That they've succumbed to programming and negative influences, ie:

Tom Paine wrote:

religion, pop culture, diseducational institutions, junk food, junk doctors, drugs, food
additives and microwave and ELF radiation, polution, and mindless memes

...in a way which was not intended as part of their purpose?  (But perhaps allowable, as "acceptable casualties", in the macro-purpose?  Or is the universe more compassionate than that?)

This is a very good question. It makes me think of Amitakh Stanford's concept of "beings of the True Light who have succumbed to darkness and are now found to be UNVIABLE". I find it extremely cold and heartless on the "universe's" part to have a system such as this. If someone has a higher purpose that they have expressly incarnated for, what is the point if there is going to be so much "pollution" that they'll never be able to re-awaken to it? Wouldn't the incarnating soul have seen at least the probability of that happening, or is it like a surprise/dissapointment to the higher self? "Oh darn, my incarnation really got distracted by MTV and chemtrails... didn't see that coming, should've planned for that..."

Montalk wrote:

I mean, even if you are asleep, as long as there is something higher in you there will be synchronistic guidance in your life whether you realize it or not, a loose blueprint shaping the course of things, bending probability; you may be given symbolic messages through dreams even if you don't care to remember or interpret them; even if you are programmed, the bounds of your beliefs will be fuzzy and unusual things can and will make you go "huh" sooner or later, even if you put it out if your mind later; you will feel real empathy for something -- even souled psychopaths have empathy although it's twisted, like Hitler lamenting the death of his dogs while sending what he considered subhumans to death without blinking; and your experiences in life will, in one way or another, cause you to change gradually and deeply as the years go by, whereby you evolve as a soul rather than merely "adapting" like some artificial intelligence program

Yes! All of us began from a basically "asleep" position, save for the rare few who have early childhood psychic/paranormal experiences that they are able to remember from an early age. It seems that it is almost exclusively by the "grace" of our "higher selves" (or core self, or you know what I mean) that we begin the process of awakening... as though we were either meant to, or not so. So, then, if you were meant to, how could you be derailed from this process by the bumblings of your physical incarnation? Isn't it bigger than that? Does the guidance suddenly cut out if you make a goof stumbling about in your awakening-but-not-100%-awake state?

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Tim

150 (edited by Transcix 2006-10-20 08:28:49)

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OK, I can see there are many, many a point I need to clarify here. I'm very glad to finally find a forum where most will be open to the truth.

I, too, have wrestled with these questions... I cannot see auras or anything, in fact I'm very non-visual, and this has always been a conscious choice, whether or not innately part of my nature.. for I think that truly it is more *efficient* to be non-visual, at least anyways, in my circumstance when I have other faculties to rely on... case in point, I am empathic and telepathic, especially with the use of DXM... please, I urge all of you to read my other long thread in this forum, as it explains everything in more depth. For now, let me address some crucial points.

To think that some people truly have *zero* potential to wake up this lifetime, such is *precisely* what the conspiracy wants you to believe! Such people who seem to have zero potential are either extremely severely victimized by the conspiracy or, more likely, part of the conspiracy themselves! Furthermore, as all members of the conspiracy on Gaea dawn mortal coils, truly they are all human, and it is one of their tactics to promote the notion of a, for instance, "reptilian conspiracy"... when I say that there are many a non-human on Gaea among us, I am speaking exclusively in terms of soul character... and for that matter, are you even sure yourself that your previous incarnations have always been here on Gaea and in a human ego?.. maybe you are a Boddhisatva and/or star child from other places?

The reason the enemy persists towards a strictly non-attainable goal is because they have all been deceived by their higher-ups, by Set Himself in fact, and this is how it happens every time around in terms of universal procession come the midway point between Alpha and Omega. The worst of the worst have all been called to Gaea in trickery so that the worst of the worst may all be saved as a new hope for the universe emerges in Omega, beginning here on Gaea with humanity. The enemey, however, is largely incredulous to this fact, so I will soon be elaborating in my other thread here on methods to confront the enemy in a way that will have them see the light, per the very reason in the divine plan that they have come here to Gaea.

We must all get ready, in terms of personal fortitude, force of will, self-realization and patience and tolerance to self and others... if we on this forum cannot bear the truth of how reality on Gaea truly is and what measures we need to change things, if not even we here can begin to accept this and work for healthy evolution for humanity, then who in this god forsaken world would be able to? This is the first forum of its kind that I have yet to find, and I believe it is very important for my message to meet receptive ears here.

The Galactic Federation is on our side, although admittedly there is much propaganda in circulation claiming to be from the Galactic Federation. But the divine law that they uphold is precisely why the enemy's *only* weapon is fear and intimidation... sure, they can beat you up, but only in the context of society, say for example if you think a gangster is part of the conspiracy and give him beef, then per his gangster nature he and his cronies might tackle ya... all telepathy is *not* within the realm of our present culture, as the conspiracy controls the status quo and fervently denies the reality of spirituality and the reality of psychic powers. Therefore you are free to confront the enemy telepathically, without fear of retaliation.. if they threaten retaliation, their threat is hollow unless you give them an "in".

For the same reason of divine law, much like the prime directive on Star Trek, this is why the Galactic Federation cannot directly intervene and help Gaea... they are, in fact, intervening a great deal, through for example star children, who are born within this culture, raised in our customs, and thus affectuating healthy change within acceptable limits in terms of divine law, as if they were of us, human. This also explains how certain non-humans (again, relatively speaking 'non-human') reside on Gaea and are working for the divine and the Galactic Federation in the name of good... they do not intervene directly, but nor are they in any way truly threatened by the enemy... they disseminate vital information they are allowed to (strictly without infringing on our free will), and they, for instance, create some of the wonderful TV shows that help us all on Gaea learn how to make things work in this dark time, shows such as Star Trek and Andromeda.

We humans must take the initiative towards real change, FOR ONLY WE CAN. We have free will that cannot be interfeared with, so although we are being helped as much as possible, it is our perrogative and ours alone to take the essential real action.

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