Topic: What the heck is going on with stingrays?

Well, after Steve Irwin died from a stingray attack (supposedy VERY rare), I had a strange feeling that this might not be the last of it.  I wondered what had caused this  usually innocuous creature to kill.  Today I saw a headline on MSN about an 81 year old Florida man who had been attacked by a stingray that JUMPED INTO HIS BOAT! 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0, … 49,00.html

While searching for this  text version of the story (the original was a video), I came across this:

http://www.cdnn.info/news/safety/s060925.html

Another diver was attacked by a stingray.  Ok, so now I have some confirmation of my intuitive feeling that something was up.  But what could it be?  Is the ocean now fighting us?  Any ideas?  Because even though I got an intuitive feeling about the first attack, I didn't get any answers as to why.

Re: What the heck is going on with stingrays?

Well....I've heard there's strange stuff going on in Australia relating to aliens and tests etc. Perhaps this is one of them? Making normally docile stingrays into predator/hunter killers?

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Hi Goryous,

Goryous wrote:

I've heard there's strange stuff going on in Australia relating to aliens and tests etc..

I would much appreciate any links you have.
cheers smile

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Re: What the heck is going on with stingrays?

goryous wrote:

Well....I've heard there's strange stuff going on in Australia relating to aliens and tests etc. Perhaps this is one of them? Making normally docile stingrays into predator/hunter killers?

I was wondering if it linked somehow to alien influence, but I couldn't see how.  Perhaps this could be the answer.  It might be a test of some sort, to see how much they could control creatures in this capacity.

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http://www.truthism.com/www.xeeatwelve. … k_nwo.html something recent I came across...though I've heard about the nwo mega bases /alien connection to australia a while back. Perhaps the strange things just reminded me of it/to go looking again for new info.

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Lono, if there is significance to this coincidence, any thoughts on it being a symbolic thing? You know how Goro Adachi tracks symbolic markers in popular culture of hyperdimensional ongoings, or how the NY Lottery on 9/11/02 happened to be 9-1-1...

Both stingray injuries were very rare supposedly, yet happened anyway and made it into the mass consciousness through the news.

Key elements:

STING / RAY / HEART / INJURY of INNOCENTS

Not saying Irwin and the 81 year old guy were necessarily "innocent" people but it's not like Dick Cheney got barbed as some type of divine retribution. Maybe there's meaning to this, maybe it is indeed just coincidence.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

7 (edited by lyra 2006-10-20 05:03:53)

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montalk wrote:

Not saying Irwin and the 81 year old guy were necessarily "innocent" people but it's not like Dick Cheney got barbed as some type of divine retribution......

Well, the dude *has* apparently died of a heart attack and been reanimated who knows how many times....so.....you know.................. big_smile  haha  Seems like something keeps striking him down, and the negs keep resurrecting him ala "Frankenstein."   Tug o'war for the walking reanimated corpse that's possessed and piloted by negs. 

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As far as stingrays being controlled by aliens...doesn't that seem far fetched?  What would be the point?   Out of all the creatures on Earth, aliens targetting....stingrays?   That doesn't even make sense, unless I'm missing something.

Maybe I'm the only one who didn't sense conspiracy surrounding Steve Irwin's death.   I don't own or watch TV, but I have glimpsed one snippet of Steve Irwin on the tube during my travels, and from the one snippet I did see, he was carrying on like an ass clown.   He was manically harassing a crocodile, carrying on like a fool - NOT impressive, thank you -  and so when he died I just figured he must have been carrying on in a similar manner and got stung.   Reports say that he was doing nothing more than swimming on top of a stingray, but let's face it.....they're called stingrays.  Because they have a stinger barb at the end of their tail that they use to sting creatures who seem threatening.  They sting.  That's what they do.   And yes, I know, there are many people-friendly stingrays that allow people to touch them and be around them in the water....but that doesn't mean every stingray all over the world is going to have the same personality, nor be expected to for that matter. 

Anyway, maybe at best there's some sort of symbolic meaning to these stingray attacks, as mentioned - I think what's weirder is that out of all the news that's happening on the planet to over 6 billion people, and all the stories that don't get covered, this latest stingray attack DID get covered.   Something's going on here, but it's above and beyond the stingray attack itself.  Why did this story get covered?   Why are we even discussing it right now, being "allowed" to know about this?    That's maybe what we need to be looking at.   Although truthfully, imo, this is all small potatoes.  The patterned symbolic coincidences that I find interesting for example were the spate of shootings that happened in the U.S. all within a week and a half of each other, and then several countries having political revolutions all within 2 days.  (A militant group in Thailand overthrowing their leader in a coup, Hungarians rioting in the streets and storming Parliament and demanding that their Prime Minister resign, etc.  I think there was more, but those are the two biggies I remember off the top of my head....)

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Re: What the heck is going on with stingrays?

Personally, I dont think anything is up with the stingrays. Im sure that there have been other deaths, though not many and didnt make the news, associated with stingrays. Its just big news now becuause of what happened to Steve Irwin.  Its not ususual for fish to flop onto boats. Heck, I know and have read of barracuda, sharks, etc, flopping onboard and biting the shit out of people.  Besides think about it, a stingray's best defense as far as a predator attacking them is to aim for the heart of whatever is after them.

In man's analysis and understanding of himself, it is as well to know from whence he came as whither he is going.   Edgar Cayce

Beliefs are tools for social conditioning, rather than expressions of inner realization or inner truth.   unknown
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I could be, as Montalk said, symbolic.  I know I was reaching with that alien influence thing, but I just feel that there is something behind it besides random chance.  Also, the news may be reporting it more than they would have, but according to the Irwin reports, these attacks were very, very rare.  Now it's happened three times within the past two months. 

I think one reason I'm more interested in this now is that 1)at the time of Irwin's attack, I was about to swim/ snorkel in the ocean for the first time, and 2)my husband has dived all over the world and commented that he had swum with stingrays many times without incident.  So here he was affirming that it was just crazy to die from a stingray attack, and I was about to swim and see them!  I did actually see one, and he laughed at how I gave it the same wide berth I would have a shark (which I also saw). 

But there could be another explanation:  the morphogenic (sp?) fields.  Perhaps the general stingray population was changed by not only the actions of the one, but also the mass thoughts of humans regarding them.  When I was at an aquarium recently, there was a stingray in a small pool.  Not ONE person walked by it without making an Irwin reference.  This could have an effect.  Now that I think of it, this is the most likely explanation in my mind.

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There does seem to be a focus going on in Australia. It does not seem like a coincidence, as both stingray incidents were made into "front page" news in the US and on Yahoo.com etc. I'm sure people get killed in strange animal incidents every day, so I'm not sure why the focus on rays. It seems like subtle social engineering that way it is presented to the public. But to what end? Make people afraid of large, triangle-shaped, gliding beasts?

The Mars Records by the Relphes from Australia has a ton of information on the connection btwn Australia and UFO's and bases and all that. " Clearing sessions with a biofeedback meter where a man regained hidden memories of military service on Mars, Time travel, Killing with Remote Viewing, Mind control, and Military and Alien Abductions."
http://www.themarsrecords.com/

I'll bring up Amitakh Stanford again, she is a native Australian and has a LOT to say about the NWO alien agenda. Her articles on the Annunaki's Atu-Waa, their device to restart the time loop that our false universe is imprisoned within, have Australia-relevant information. Apparently the device was moved to an underground location in an arid climate in Australia. Amitakh and crew relocated their Alukar Heights animal shelter in proximity to the location, and their presence began to bring rain that soaked the desert and ended the drought... ruining the conditions needed to active the Atu-waa, and utterly foiling the Annunaki's plans to restart the time loop again. It sounds quite similar to the saga of Don and Carol Croft, planting Orgonite and clearing up DOR in the atmosphere while constantly "battling" reptilians and agents. It was because of this similarity that the link to xeeatwelve.com was posted on educate-yourself.org. It was at this point (end of '05) that I began reading Amitakh's work.

The Atu-waa is relocated to Australia:
http://xeeatwelve.com/articles/atu-waa_moved.html
http://xeeatwelve.com/articles/atu-waa_ … _tool.html

Amitakh and co. relocate closer to the Atu-waa:
http://xeeatwelve.com/articles/aitu_mak … ished.html

The rain comes, soaks the Atu-waa, and foils the Annunaki's plans:
http://xeeatwelve.com/articles/soaking_the_atu-waa.html

Amitakh Stanford wrote:

The implementation of the NWO has begun. Australia is the launching pad. Originally, the ruling elite had intended America to be the first nation to be absorbed into the NWO, but several things altered that decision, which led to a change to move it to Australia.

Many Greys have moved to Australia, as can be seen by the recent push by various shires to fluoridate water supplies.

Tim

Re: What the heck is going on with stingrays?

This latest attack happened off the coast of Florida, not Australia,wasnt sure if anybody was aware of that..

In man's analysis and understanding of himself, it is as well to know from whence he came as whither he is going.   Edgar Cayce

Beliefs are tools for social conditioning, rather than expressions of inner realization or inner truth.   unknown
Ad Verecundiam

12 (edited by goryous 2006-10-20 12:21:00)

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Well, that does put an interesting spin on it then....so its not just the rays around australia that are acting strange eh? Florida has its own connections with weirdness aswell. Very interesting though, thanks.
Edit...just talking to a friend and found out somebody got stabbed and died near his school and another situation was a 20~21 year old killed their entire family and themself within the last day or two..seriously messed up stuff is going on.

quote from lyra
"As far as stingrays being controlled by aliens...doesn't that seem far fetched?  What would be the point?   Out of all the creatures on Earth, aliens targetting....stingrays?   That doesn't even make sense, unless I'm missing something."

I didnt say stingrays were being directly controlled by aliens, perhaps they are an indication of how weird things are getting. Normally docile animals flipping out and attacking people etc. Lyra brings up a good point though on people doing much worse recently, moreso that normal.

13 (edited by visavis 2006-10-20 12:36:00)

Re: What the heck is going on with stingrays?

Who was it (Stuart Wilde...?  no... hmm, i recently read) that tptb's eventual plan is to run things from Australia.  Don't ask me why.

Lyra wrote:

As far as stingrays being controlled by aliens...doesn't that seem far fetched?  What would be the point?   Out of all the creatures on Earth, aliens targetting....stingrays?   That doesn't even make sense, unless I'm missing something.

Testing of meat-puppetry technologies/possessions, perhaps?  The soul essence of an animal would probably put up less "resistance" to direct controlling of motor functions, than the average person.

Lyra wrote:

Why did this story get covered?   Why are we even discussing it right now, being "allowed" to know about this?

I think because it sells fear and a general disdain of human race, it sells it do the ensouled who are alseep/trapped.  Just like the shark attacks.  "Oh, heavens to mergatroid.  Even the animals are turning against us.  Because we're destroying the planet.  Someone get me out of here.  This place is getting worse and worse, hurry up 2012, ___(insert icon, or event, or some other disempowering thing outside of oneself)___ save me!"

"The unknown does not incite fear, but dependence on the known does." - J. Krishnamurti

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Re: What the heck is going on with stingrays?

people, maybe these stingray articles are covered ONLY because steve irwin was killed by one?
otherwise they would never make national news.

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visavis wrote:

Who was it (Stuart Wilde...?  no... hmm, i recently read) that tptb's eventual plan is to run things from Australia.  Don't ask me why.

But as treehugger pointed out, the second attack didn't happen in Australia.   !

On a side note, as far as why Australia would be selected as a base for running things, I could see many reasons.  The entire interior of the continent is dry red rock desert, just like the American Southwest, another area where they've already established themselves.  Very Mars-like, giving them mucho privacy away from civilization, and I'm sure the dry desert climate is necessary for whatever they're doing.  (Probably good for underground bases...no water interfering.)  Australia has a huge new age population and people interested in "the weird" - Nexus Magazine is based out of there, and you hear lots of stories about black helicopter activity and underground bases and such, indicating that "stuff" is already happening there, much like the U.S.  The country is rimmed by beautiful beaches and the ocean, and completely cut off from the rest of the world, so it probably has a lot of appeal to them.  Also, it allows easy access to Antarctica, which is another area that's supposedly teaming with "their" bases.



visavis wrote:

Testing of meat-puppetry technologies/possessions, perhaps?  The soul essence of an animal would probably put up less "resistance" to direct controlling of motor functions, than the average person.

You're really reaching here.  This is just getting silly by this point!



visavis wrote:

I think because it sells fear and a general disdain of human race, it sells it do the ensouled who are alseep/trapped.  Just like the shark attacks.  "Oh, heavens to mergatroid.  Even the animals are turning against us.  Because we're destroying the planet.  Someone get me out of here.  This place is getting worse and worse, hurry up 2012, ___(insert icon, or event, or some other disempowering thing outside of oneself)___ save me!"

I'm going to have to disagree with you again.  While I know that "they" are trying to get humans to hate ourselves and own species, and there most definitely is a campaign happening to achieve this, (I've written about this on my website actually) I highly doubt stingrays are part of that plan.   Again, come on now.  This is just getting ridiculous. !!   I'm all about the conspiracies, but sometimes it just gets taken to the most extreme ridiculous levels.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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