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Lyra wrote:

No Barefoot Doc, your post should read:

"I can't stand the rising inflection at the end of a sentance?   In speech?  That is getting more popular amongst younger people?  So it sounds like they are asking a question?  and makes them sound very insecure and feeble and creepy even?"

LOL

Lono wrote:

You have to wonder how that statement-as-a-question thing got started.  It sounds so unappealing I can't imagine anyone hearing it for the first time and thinking, "Hey-  that's how I want to talk!"  There have even been studies on this type of speaking that show listeners tend to disregard the speaker. 

This makes me wonder whether this is truly a dialect/ inflection, or if it's merely an indication that more people are looking for validation from outside themselves.

Good point but the guy in my link although he hated "up talk", after travelling in Australia and America started to talk like it himself so as a meme it does seem contagious.

I would say it probably works both ways, if they start talking like that it may weaken  their personal power , just like if they have little confidence or will to begin with they may be more likely to speak that way in the first place or be more susceptable to the meme.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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thr33tim3 wrote:

I also find that "pod" thinking can permeate more than just the "faceless masses" or "80%" we are referring to. I see a lot of pod-mentality in the New Age movement, in terms of clinging to dogma, closed mindedness to "contradictory" material, insistence on "love, light and fluffy smiles" ONLY and seeing "bad feelings" as negative/hurtful. It is almost impossible to snap such people out of their belief systems, because you end up being called a "negative" person. It is similar to the kind of mind control people in religious cults such as Scientology or Jehovahs Witnesses get into... there is an internal censoring of all input from the outside world, it is all seen through a lens like "is this a voice of "light and love" or a voice of "darkness"??" and if it fits their pre-conceived concept of "dark thinking" they put up a wall instantly and stop listening. Many folks such as this refuse to look very deeply into political conspiracies of a physical nature such as trauma-based mind control and child abduction/trafficking.... "such a dark thing to consider, why tolerate such negativity in your thought patterns? Best to just drop it and meditate on "gratitude"..."

This is very true - (I was going to comment on this yesterday but got tired of blabbering and decided to leave it for another time.) 

For starters, in any discussion about "pod people" or its related phenomenon, there has to be a list of traits or behaviors...which can be a pretty subjective thing.  No two people are going to agree on what constitutes "pod behavior," and anytime somebody mentions a trait or observation, somebody else is sure to pipe up with, "Oh, but I sometimes do that..." or "Oh, my beloved Aunt Bertha does that, but I know she's not a pod!" etc.  wink   My definition of pod people isn't the same as what was established at the beginning of this thread, and for me, I don't think Pods are just people with mainstream viewpoints who want to stay within the safe confines of a life that amounts to a lie, basically.  For me, pods are people who:

1.  Act highly programmed....and that DEFINITELY includes the New Agers.  In fact, they often times act more pod-like then a mainstream person.  But being highly programmed, sometimes with those glazed over eyes, and sounding as if repeating and rehashing a script that's been pounded into them, whether it be hate rhetoric spouting Republican Bush loving conservatives, or Love n Light fluffy New Agers talking a bunch of New Age lingo gibberish.

2. Seeming inability to question or analyze themselves, or change their viewpoints and be flexible. Ties back into being highly programmed.   Very rigid, very set in their ways, will not bend, will never admit they're wrong about something and make appropriate adjustments.

3.  Get their identities from something outside themselves.   Copying what the media shows them and following trends; Latching onto the New Age scene and adopting a new "new age alter ego name," wearing the special new age clothes and using the lingo, etc.   Just wherever and whatever else can provide them with an identity-of-the-moment to latch on to and mimic.  Lack of self generated identity and individuality.   Herd mentality...whatever the herd may be, and the herd can be something "alternative."



Those are three biggies off the top of my head, although those aren't the only ones, and it's how I would define "pod people," which is a slightly different definition than what was established as the beginning of this thread.

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And here is what the pods do to stamp out anyone who can think:
A Gnostic teacher speaks frankly about the treatment they were receiving from the
early christians:  http://www.metahistory.org/MysteriesDied.php

We were hated and persecuted, not only by those who are simply incapable of understanding us, but also by those who think they are advancing the name of Christ, although they were unknowingly empty, ignorant of who they are, like dumb animals… They persecuted those who have been liberated by me, because they hate them – those who, should they shut their mouth, would weep with futile groaning because they do not know me. Instead, they served two masters, even a multitude. But they will become victorious in everything, in wars and battles, jealous division and wrath… having proclaimed the doctrine of a dead man and lies so as to resemble the freedom and purity of the perfect assembly.

And so uniting in their doctrine of fear and slavery, mundane needs, and abandoning reverence, being petty and ignorant, they cannot embrace the nobility of truth, for they hate what they are, and love what they are not.
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There are subtle agents in every workplace that is populated by fundamentalists.
They obliquely try to find out if you go to church, what church you go to and whether
you believe as they do.  You're either on their side or you're against them.
You're either one of them or you're the enemy.

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Ok, seriously? You guys? I totally appreciate you, like, bringing up how SoCal people talk because its, like, been on my mind, like, for a couple days now and its like, totally funny how synchronous this forum is. I, like, totally grew up in, like, upstate NY, but like, I still totally was always, like, hearing all the popular girls in my school talking like "valley girls", ya know? And, I was, like, oh my gawd where are they, like, getting that from? And I remember, like, thinking as a young kid "they are totally talking just like the people on TV!" Later I, like, totally learned that most American TV was, like, totally produced in Southern California, ya know? So, I was, like, oh my gawd I totally get it now! It is sooooooooo freaky! I include all the, likes, because it is like, totally how my girlfriend who grew up in Orange County talks when she gets really excited and doesn't pause to collect her thoughts.

And now I've moved to Northern California, and it is all about ranches and cattle and rolling hills and fields and stuff out here, and a lot of the people totally affect a "southern drawl" kinda accent, which I also find bizarre because I have relatives in North Carolina, and THEY are supposed to have a southern accent, not Californians! It is like the "country" lifestyle has made everyone adopt a "country&western" style accent, which of course is basically a product of the country&western music industry more than anything else.

I really think it is because of TV. People immitate what they hear. It is eliminating the concept of "regional dialects"... god forbid if the "global dialect" becomes like SoCal American Speak. tongue

I got rid of my TV a few years ago, but I love British comedy, and lately I have been listening to Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant's podcasts, and I find myself emulating their vocal styles and phrases like "brilliant".. even just in my head thinking to myself. It is, like, totally hard not to pick things up like that, innit?
Tim

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Yesterday at work near the end of the shift I was on a 5 minute smoke break and was totally wiped after getting stuck on a really fast machine with no help.  I sat down in the smoke hut next to 2 other guys.  The guy directly next to me, noticing that I was obviously tired and wanting to be anywhere but work, asked me how I was doing.  I started to answer and mid sentence he turns his head and starts talking to the guy next to him about something totally unrelated.  I stopped when I realized that he had turned his attention to something else. 

I was completely dumbfounded in that moment.  I thought he had just asked me how I was doing....why would he ask if he absolutely had no interest in the answer.....and how could someone be so outright rude to another human such as myself?  It blew my head clear off my shoulders and left me in total confusion over what had just transpired.


It was like he had practiced this routine of making people go nuts by playing weird conversational headgames.  Now that I look back at it, it was a really funny moment in my life as I can't remember ever experiencing anything that blatant.  At the time I couldn't believe that I had just taken part in such an insane event.

Just thought it was a good example of a typical pod person (or maybe just OP) behaviour...faked empathy.

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pod people... head games.....

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haha... I've seen these last 2 pics twice now and have laughed out loud both times... thanks for the levity guys smile

"The unknown does not incite fear, but dependence on the known does." - J. Krishnamurti

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Can't believe a newspaper would make an article out of the TV image.  It's clearly a photoshopped image.  Just goes to show how dumb "pod-media" can be.

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Poffo wrote:

Yesterday at work near the end of the shift I was on a 5 minute smoke break and was totally wiped after getting stuck on a really fast machine with no help.  I sat down in the smoke hut next to 2 other guys.  The guy directly next to me, noticing that I was obviously tired and wanting to be anywhere but work, asked me how I was doing.  I started to answer and mid sentence he turns his head and starts talking to the guy next to him about something totally unrelated.  I stopped when I realized that he had turned his attention to something else. 

I was completely dumbfounded in that moment.  I thought he had just asked me how I was doing....why would he ask if he absolutely had no interest in the answer.....and how could someone be so outright rude to another human such as myself?  It blew my head clear off my shoulders and left me in total confusion over what had just transpired.


It was like he had practiced this routine of making people go nuts by playing weird conversational headgames.  Now that I look back at it, it was a really funny moment in my life as I can't remember ever experiencing anything that blatant.  At the time I couldn't believe that I had just taken part in such an insane event.

Just thought it was a good example of a typical pod person (or maybe just OP) behaviour...faked empathy.

I think this is because he was expecting a quick response like "eh the wife" or "f*cking immigrants" or something, and he really didn't want to hear your 'life story'. He miscalculated, he thought you were like him, but once you started talking, he realized he couldn't relate to anything you have to say. Alas.

nothing is sacred, the deconstructing and letting-be of all things, clarity of sight, the realization of no-thing(s), Nothing

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montalk wrote:

About the upbringing, the questions seem to be along these lines: Why are some people solely the products of their environment and heredity, while others progress in spite of these? Why does one person with a "perfect" upbringing become a perfect cog in the wheel, while another with an equally "perfect" upbringing matures in their spiritual and creative potential? Why does one person with a horrible upbringing become a delinquent asshole because of it, while another becomes wiser and more compassionate because of it? For instance, some who are abused by their parents perpetuate the abuse upon their own children, while others makes sure their own children never have to go through the same.

This suggests that something beyond physicality is at work here, that soul maturity and destiny matter more than physical conditions. With different timelines come different physical conditions, and maybe even different destinies or purposes, but the soul maturity one is born with should stay constant because the soul is beyond linear time and space. But how much of that soul potential is activated in a life may depend on how the soul responds to the way things go in that timeline.

Another interesting thing to notice with non-pods is that "who they are" provides a source of novelty that effects changes in their surroundings, while poddish people are the opposite and only seem to absorb influences from their surroundings to build up who they are. There is something active inside non-pods that provides them with individuality and originality, an inner drummer.

First of all, we are all unique souls, and we each have a different dharma... some of us, for example, are meant to become cogs, and then wake up inside the machine to change it from the inside-out. Of course these things are never predetermined, as the plan (the dharma) could not work this incarnation around, and you do things a bit differently. You always have perrogative, and sometimes you can indeed find shortcuts.

The influence of one's family also should not be underestimated. You might say that two kids with cogs as parents had the same upbringing, and only one of those kids ends up realizing he's not really a cog... but what's truly important is the subtlety of each unique individual case, as a parent can still be a cog but raise their kid enough to 'break free'. The parenting is not the same... the fatal mistake here is to assume that people who are considered all as consumerist, monotonized, dehumanized, streamlined cogs, the mistake is to assume that they are not still *EXTRAORDINARILY* different from one another. The soul influence is *NEVER* completely hidden, so really, every child has a unique upbringing.

There are just SO MANY variables, that in the end, free will works out the best it can in the given circumstance, and I think this is the only way to look at it. The universe is truly essentially benevolent, but at the same time, it is also ever only a work-in-progress.

To answer more of your specific points, you cannot say all abuse is the same, or two "perfect" upbringings are the same, because what's perfect for one soul may be detrimental to another. Everything is calculated so that the child has the appropriate parents for the needed lessons to be learnt, this is one thing. The astrological make-up and the immortal soul character of a child with his/her parents always corresponds precisely *AS BEST AS POSSIBLE*, no less and no more. Work-in-progress. smile The chain of karma and the attraction of gravity/love towards equilibrium is how the universe naturally flows in such a way.

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"Children choose their parents"

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You see, I just bring everyone out of the woodwork.

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Transcix wrote:

First of all, we are all unique souls, and we each have a different dharma... some of us, for example, are meant to become cogs, and then wake up inside the machine to change it from the inside-out.

Souls with the potential to awaken, but who remain asleep for part of their lives until the dawning of a new realization, become increasingly dissatisfied, unfulfilled, and bothered by the cog-in-the-wheel lifestyle. That is because they have something higher within that requires more than social and material sustenance to thrive. The same cannot be said for others who grow increasingly content the more they submerge themselves within the meme pool of the mainstream collective, who have antipathy rather than amazement for ideas and phenomena beyond their familiarity, who never awaken in life nor learn spiritual lessons from its experiences.

The distinction I am making here is not between souls whose potential to awaken in life has been activated (awake souls) versus those not yet activated (sleeping souls), but between people who have the potential to awaken in life versus those who do not have that potential at all. While the potentially awake souls are all unique, I do not sense the same level of uniqueness among those without that potential. Reading their vibes indicates a rudimentary sentience, a bit vacuous and two dimensional. Before me may stand two people with identical pod-like behavioral traits, but one may have something truly conscious behind his eyes while the other would not, and the first later demonstrates being a unique but asleep soul while the second turns out to be a more rudimentary soul neither interested nor here to experience anything beyond material success. So I find it necessary to classify pod people into two categories, people with the potential to awaken but still asleep, and people without the potential to awaken in this lifetime.

Transcix wrote:

To answer more of your specific points, you cannot say all abuse is the same, or two "perfect" upbringings are the same, because what's perfect for one soul may be detrimental to another. Everything is calculated so that the child has the appropriate parents for the needed lessons to be learnt, this is one thing. The astrological make-up and the immortal soul character of a child with his/her parents always corresponds precisely *AS BEST AS POSSIBLE*, no less and no more. Work-in-progress. smile The chain of karma and the attraction of gravity/love towards equilibrium is how the universe naturally flows in such a way.

I understand your point. The question is whether as you say different responses to identical outer physical conditions are due solely to variations in the learning needs of souls (which I do not doubt ), or whether the difference in response is sometimes attributable to whether the person is even a sentient soul here to learn versus an embryonic soul simply here to exist. So I'm talking about a deeper difference than just variation in soul needs; what I have in mind is a fundamental difference between soul type that accounts for the difference between non-pods and the permanent pods. If I understand your post correctly, you were addressing the difference between non-pods and temporary pods, temporary in the sense that they can and will awaken if given the appropriate support and triggering in life.

Without self-awareness we would not be capable of action that transcends outer influences, instead we would be reaction machines. Many pod people are reaction machines in that they seem to lack self-awareness and freewill to be anything other than expressions of their social and genetic programming, and so they function as meme-bots. The point I was making in my last post is that to become a non-pod requires something nondeterministic inside, something self-aware and introspective to respond actively rather than reactively to external stimuli... that it's not so much about whether a person responds with spiritual growth to one experience while another responds negatively to it due to mismatch between soul need and experience, but about whether a person responds at all in conscious/spiritual manner to any and all experiences in life. I have come across enough people who seem entirely incapable of responding in any original or sentient manner to experiences that I must conclude there are permanent pods who cannot awaken in this life because it is not their purpose to learn and develop, merely to exist and grow.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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I advise you next time to accuse them and have them show their true colours, for precisely the leaders you speak of whom the masses follow into the ditches of evolutionary stagnation are Nightfall, they are the enemy, and they are acting completely deliberately, I assure you. This is precisely the focal point of the conspiracy I wish to point out in my other thread on these forums... the battle of knowledge is won on the battlefield of social interaction first and foremost.. I suggest you draw them out to see their true colours not verbally, but rather with your mind.

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