1 (edited by lyra 2006-09-18 10:53:18)

Topic: Knitting and Crocheting....great skills if the world falls apart! :D

Okay, so recently I decided "I want to learn how to knit and crochet."  And I am!  Learning both at the same time.  Knitting and crocheting has always interested me, but nobody around me growing up did it, and it never occurred to me before to try to teach myself.   Seemed too difficult, and besides, there was no inspiration or motivation around me to learn.   But here in town there's a shop called The Needle Lady that I've passed by a bezillion times in the two years we've been here.  They have these great creations in the front windows, made from yarns with these amazing colors and textures.  The world of yarn has changed big time in the past few years, all these soft chenilles and feathery threads in vibrant colors.....

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So I'd see those creations and all that amazing yarn and think, "I want to learn how to do that!"   So now that I'm finally done with all the other stuff that's been on my life agenda, and I have oodles of free time, I'm learning.  It's bugged me for years that I have like, no skills in life.  In days past, people knew how to do stuff.  They could sew, make clothes, grow their own food, build their own stuff.  Nowadays, everything is done for us.  We're losing our skills.  Interestingly enough, knitting has experienced a resurgence in the past few years, with knitting cafes and yarn shops opening up around the country......it makes me wonder if it's because "something" is coming up down the pike that will cause our society to turn upside down, so we'll have to do more things for ourselves....?   Just a thought.  It does seem weird that there's been such a renewed interest in learning it.  Either that, or it's just people like me who are tired of feeling like a skillless, useless person who can't do anything!   big_smile

Knitting always seemed like this really hard thing to do because it involves two needles, but actually it's not.  I taught myself the basics, but am also taking a class for it.  But it's not hard at all.   You can teach yourself, but it's probably best to take a class or at least have a skilled person show you how to do it in person, only because they'll show you the proper techniques and how to hold and move your needles.  That's stuff you can't derive from books.  Crocheting though you can totally teach yourself, which is what I'm doing.  It's actually more involved than knitting, even though there's only one needle, but yet it doesn't really involve any "special technique," which is why you can teach yourself.   And you can make some pretty cool stuff with it.  Years back, the only thing I ever saw with crochet were these big holey Granny afghan blankets or goofy ponchos with big tassels, made from thick, not very soft yarn in blah boring colors.  hmm   Which is probably another reason I was never terribly motivated to try to learn.  It didn't seem like you could do anything cool with it.  But now......they've got all this fantastic yarn and great designs and patterns for making really cool dresses, shirts, hats, etc.  Like, REALLY nice stuff, that I would totally wear.  In fact, I have a burgundy color short lacy crochet dress made from very thin (synthetic) thread/yarn material in my closet that I bought several years ago, and which goes with a black underslip, and it's the neatest dress I've ever owned.  But that's the kind of thing that's possible with crochet.  Forget the thick, bulky, holey, scratchy ponchos with goofy tassels!  big_smile

Anyway, just wanted to pass along the tip, in case anybody out there has free time and is interested in learning a new and useful hobby.  For me, this is addictive.  I can sit there and knit or crochet for hours, it's just so fun, and......it's a good way to relax and calm the mind. So that's another big plus!

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That is so cool Lyra, my mothers relatives are Mennonites, and they all kept up the old traditions like knitting, and crocheting, canning food, making jams and pickles. I used to always find my Aunts crocheting some thing when we came round. I still have the family drive to create and the self-reliance thing, but I put that more to use in the other areas of my life I'm interested in. So I build my own computer from parts, and laid a cork tile flooring. Installing heavy-duty industrial strength shelves was my spring project this year. And a couple of years ago I built raised beds in my garden.

A friend of mine has relatives in Spain who almost completely live off stuff they produce themselves. They women make the clothes by taking animal fluff that collects on fences, and spinning it themselves into thread. I think that is so cool. I reckon that the reason for the knitting revival, is that modern clothes are all mass produced in Chinese and East Asian sweatshops. The workers have no passion for their work. Everything you buy can be bought and worn by someone else, even the rich designer stuff. It kind of makes people feel like cogs in a machine. But handmade clothes and things have soul, there's real passion in the work and each piece is unique, just like the person wearing it. Homemade clothes would have good energy.

That's why I like seeing those pimped out cars, with the massive spoilers, exhaust systems and paint jobs. I have no interest myself in cars, and don't think it's worth my time to modify one if I did have my own. But there's real passion in them, they're unique pieces and a lot of love has gone into them, so I like seeing them, provided the windows are shut so I can't hear their stereo. Just because I'm not interested in doing something for myself, does mean I don't appreciate the unique creations of the people who do. So big up the knitting thread.

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Years ago I took up crocheting.  I made a relatively fancy afghan for my mom and a crocheted bear for a friend's baby.  I also did the obligatory potholders when I was just learning.  For some reason I got out of it, but I really enjoyed it.  Buying the yarns was so much fun!  It's an especially great hobby in winter.

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Avalokita wrote:

I reckon that the reason for the knitting revival, is that modern clothes are all mass produced in Chinese and East Asian sweatshops. The workers have no passion for their work. Everything you buy can be bought and worn by someone else, even the rich designer stuff. It kind of makes people feel like cogs in a machine. But handmade clothes and things have soul, there's real passion in the work and each piece is unique, just like the person wearing it. Homemade clothes would have good energy.

Definitely.  !  Also, crocheting (and embroidery stiching, another interesting craft) gives a piece of clothing a really unique, pretty look. (if it's done right, with thin yarn using nice lacy patterns.)   I'm tired of the soulless boring clothes that we see everywhere.  Anytime I've come across something unique and unusual for sale in a mainstream store involving crocheting or embroidery, I've typically snagged it up and bought it.  Just had to have it.  That's my kind of clothes!  smile  That burgundy colored crochet dress I mentioned in my opening post came from Sears of all places, and was a shocker to find hanging on the rack.  I was like "!!!!!!"  when I pulled out the hanger and realized what I was looking at.  Didn't care how much it cost, bought it right then and there.  Another time I was at Wal*Mart of all places, needing to find a button down white shirt for work, and came across a unique white shirt, fitted for the female body, which incorporated really nice white embroidery stitching design work.  Just a really unusual thing to see for sale at a Wal*Mart.  Snagged it up....bought two in fact, to have an additional back up. 

Boo the soulless boring clothes!  Boo!   wink


Lono wrote:

Years ago I took up crocheting.  I made a relatively fancy afghan for my mom and a crocheted bear for a friend's baby.  I also did the obligatory potholders when I was just learning.  For some reason I got out of it, but I really enjoyed it.  Buying the yarns was so much fun!  It's an especially great hobby in winter.

I'm just glad I figured out what to do with myself for this upcoming winter, so yeah, I hear that!  big_smile  Before getting into this I was seriously worried about what I was supposed to do with myself.   I had NOTHING lined up.  Website.....done.  Articles....all done, none currently in the works.  Book....done.  What's left to do??  ??   ??!!!!   Now, I know!


If anybody's considering trying this out, or brushing up on the basic skills they already have, then I have to sort of sheepishly recommend the book I found which was the best one that I came across.  After sitting on the floor at Barnes and Nobles in the Knitting & Crocheting section for literally, hours, over a two day span, cross comparing all the directions in every single crochet how-to book they had, I settled on........ Crocheting for Dummies. Yes, I know, believe it or not.  !   In fact it was the LAST BOOK I LOOKED AT for that reason!  big_smile   I checked out all the hip books first and the ones with big glossy pictures, and then finally after all that was said and done I pulled down the yellow and black Crocheting for Dummies, and discovered that it was by far, the most thorough and complete and easy to understand book out of the bunch. 


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The thing I noticed about these how-to books is that every book leaves something out.  And they don't always leave the same things out.  For instance, one book will have some of the same stuff the other book has, but then is missing some things...and then has stuff the other book didn't even mention.  But trying to find one book that covers ALL bases in a complete and thorough, step-by-step way without leaving anything out or glossing over stuff was impossible....except for the Dummies book.  So yeah, I have to say, this was definitely the best book by far.  My criteria for purchasing it also involved being able to understand the directions while still at the book store.  If I can't understand what the book is saying while I'm at B&N, then it's not going to get any better when I'm at home, with needle or hook in hand!  wink  Because that's another big problem with learning knitting and crocheting through a book - it's hard to figure out what they're trying to say a lot of the time, and the pictures are usually REALLY bad.  They don't match up at all to what it is they seem to be talking about. 

Anyway, that's my adventures and recommendations in crocheting and knitting.  wink

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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5 (edited by Pictus 2006-09-18 12:10:03)

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This is my mommy new hobby she is doing many beautiful things.
I see Lyra creating a “shirt"  for the cat, salmon color big_smile


I do not know if it is good, but here an e-book about Felted Knits
http://rapidshare.de/files/22354140/fel … .part1.rar
http://rapidshare.de/files/22354274/fel … .part2.rar

Bye, Pictus

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Pictus wrote:

I see Lyra creating a “shirt"  for the cat, salmon color big_smile

big_smile big_smile  That's awesome, it made me laugh out loud!

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Lyra, since you're trying both crocheting and knitting, which one do you find to be easier?  I've never tried knitting-- like you, I assumed it was difficult.  It seems that knitting might offer more versatility.

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Lono wrote:

Lyra, since you're trying both crocheting and knitting, which one do you find to be easier?  I've never tried knitting-- like you, I assumed it was difficult.  It seems that knitting might offer more versatility.

So far they're actually pretty much even with each other.  Neither one is harder than the other.  Both involve manipulating yarn and needles/hooks, maintaining tension and gauge.  But overall I'd say from the looks of it, it seems that maybe crocheting is going to be the more convoluted of the two, only because there are just SO many types of crocheting stitches.  In fact, there was a book at Barnes and Noble that was basically an encyclopedia of fancy crochet stitches....over 300 of them!!!   That's because you're just dealing with loops...and there are infinite ways to style stitches with loops, and you can loop multiple stitches into stitches, connect them up to other stitches, forward and backward, this way and that.  It can get pretty crazy!  Whereas with knitting, there are only two main stitches:  the knit stitch, and the purl stitch.  Those two, worked together, create everything that is done in knitting, from ribbing, to the flat stockinette stitch used in socks, among other things, and everything in between.  But yeah, with knitting you only learn two stitches, that's all there is.  Let's just put it this way..........if you were able to crochet an afghan, then knitting will be a piece of cake for you!  smile

For making sweaters, I would totally use knitting, not crocheting.  The stitches are neater and tidier, flatter, and making compact stitches with knitting moves a lot faster than with crocheting.  Crocheting really seems best for large afghans for instance, because afghans don't need to be a solid sheet of stitches, as well as funky hats/caps, and lacy tops and dresses made of thin thread.   Crochet seems best suited for pretty, stylish fun things, whereas knitting is for practical things like socks and sweaters.

And that reminds me........my goal is to learn how to knit socks.  !   When I saw that it involves using FOUR needles, I was like "eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehehehehe....!!!!!!!  I'm so there!!!" (rubbing hands together in giddy mania)   The more ridiculous the challenge, the more I want to take it on. "I have aaaaaaaall winter......bring it on!"  big_smile

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A few minutes after reading a blog post about winter knitting projects (http://16sparrows.com/blog/2006/09/whis … html#links), and charities that need knitting support, I flipped over to NR and read your post, Lyra! I've been crocheting for a few years, but just started learning to knit and sew. In fact, last week I sewed my first handbag - out of old concert T-shirts!

BTW, I really DO think the whole DIY craft movement is a natural precursor to the shift that's coming - a lot of people, especially young progressive people, may not be talking about the the transition (the way NR folks do), but on some level, they're tuned in. The indie/DIY movement is huge and growing on so many levels and it's heartening to see so many people naturally gravitating toward non-corporate, localized production of goods. (There's even a documentary being made about the indie craft movement: http://indiecraftdocumentary.blogspot.com)

Here are a few knitting and craft blogs worth checking out for cool ideas:

http://woollywormhead.blogspot.com
http://whipup.net
http://goshdarnknit.blogspot.com
http://colorguardblog.blogs.com/knitblog

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I found this link to a craft board where someone has actually crocheted sandles from grocery bags!  There is a link to how to make grocery bag yarn:

http://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=87737.0

They actually look rather cool!

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I'm loving this thread!  Great idea, Lyra!!:D  You've inspired me to rekindle my crafty ways smile  My mom used to sew and crochet, and she taught me how to sew when I was 9, and I used to be totally into all sorts of crafts when I was younger.  I sewed many of my own clothes in highschool just because it was fun.  I used to make those wide, patterned friendship bracelets out of embroidery floss, too.  I even got into making jewelry out of those teeny, tiny beads, as well!  But I never learned how to knit, and as I got older and other responsibilites took most of my time, I eventually pulled away from doing crafty things.  Now, though, it'd be a perfect time to get back into it and learn something new! 

You're so right about all the new types of beautiful yarn out there now-a-days, Lyra!  "This isn't your Grandma's yarn, kids!" hehe  Some of it feels like cashmere!!  I'd loooooove to make some pretty sweaters and fun little winter berets with matching scarfs!

Lono wrote:

I found this link to a craft board where someone has actually crocheted sandles from grocery bags!  There is a link to how to make grocery bag yarn:

http://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=87737.0

They actually look rather cool!

Thanks for finding that link, Lono!! big_smile  What fun!!  And what a GREAT idea!!  Never thought about using the plastic grocery bags, and those sandals are too cute!  I can see where the soles might be a little bit of a problem.... I'm glad they discussed that in the post and gave some good ideas about how to reinforce the bottoms. smile

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Those grocery bag sandals are crazy!

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So this is a pic taken tonight of the first knitting project I'm undertaking.  It's a scarf, or shaping up to be one anyway.  I wasn't even going to do a scarf, but then I realized it's like the knitting right of passage or something.  You can't knit and never have made a scarf!   big_smile  I'm using Artyarns brand Supermerino wool, hand painted.  It's a really neat autumn-y shade of red-orange, purple and tan, and this is a basket weave style pattern.  Like all knitting it's just using the two types of stitches - knit and purl.  I'm not posting it to fish for compliments or anything, but rather to show anybody who's interested that I only just started learning, and if I'm already able to do this after only two classes, then anybody can do it!  big_smile  Seriously!   Not that it's this big impressive and complicated project though, but still, it's a good start for a beginner and anybody can do it.   

Soon, I will conquer socks.  There will be no stopping me at that point!  haha



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I know you said you weren't fishing for compliments, but I'm gonna give you one anyways! big_smile  Your scarf is looking really cute!!  I love the colors, too!!

I'm kinda disappointed in myself because I was running some errands today, and I kept repeating to myself.. "gonna stop at HobbyLobby and pick up some knitting stuff... gonna stop at HobbyLobby..." (HobbyLobby's a really cool and huge craft store)... and you guessed it... I forgot.  Actually, not forgot really, but was totally distracted by this freaky, freaky guy that started talking to me for no reason as I was leaving the bank.... Him:  "You know Glade?"  Me: "Huh?... " Him: "Glade, the air freshener..."  Me: "uh-huh"  Him: "You know they make this stuff you sprinkle on the carpets to make it smell good"  Me: "uuh...."  Him: "You think they use that stuff here, on these carpets at the bank?  Y'know the Glade?  I think they do."  Me: "hmm... coud be... I've gotta go"  And he kept talking to me as I hurried up to my car... Then I saw him at another store as I was leaving... He was carrying a red gas can into a grocery store!!  I was so freaked out, I just got in my car and drove home!   Pathetic, I know... Now I'm here at home, feeling stupid and cursing myself for forgetting to go to HobbyLobby!!  Grr! roll  I'll have to go sometime next week.  (and remember to remove those freak magnets from my pockets next time!)

"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." ~ Mark Twain

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Pinkrlyq wrote:

I know you said you weren't fishing for compliments, but I'm gonna give you one anyways! big_smile  Your scarf is looking really cute!!  I love the colors, too!!

Thanks! 


Pinkrlyq wrote:

I'm kinda disappointed in myself because I was running some errands today, and I kept repeating to myself.. "gonna stop at HobbyLobby and pick up some knitting stuff... gonna stop at HobbyLobby..." (HobbyLobby's a really cool and huge craft store)...

That's awesome that you're going to get back into doing crafty things!  smile  Knitting and crocheting especially are very relaxing.  It's like being in a hypnotic trance or something forming the stitches.  And making stuff is always a cool thing. 


Pinkrlyq wrote:

and you guessed it... I forgot.  Actually, not forgot really, but was totally distracted by this freaky, freaky guy that started talking to me for no reason as I was leaving the bank.... Him:  "You know Glade?"  Me: "Huh?... " Him: "Glade, the air freshener..."  Me: "uh-huh"  Him: "You know they make this stuff you sprinkle on the carpets to make it smell good"  Me: "uuh...."  Him: "You think they use that stuff here, on these carpets at the bank?  Y'know the Glade?  I think they do."  Me: "hmm... coud be... I've gotta go"  And he kept talking to me as I hurried up to my car... Then I saw him at another store as I was leaving... He was carrying a red gas can into a grocery store!!  I was so freaked out, I just got in my car and drove home!   Pathetic, I know... Now I'm here at home, feeling stupid and cursing myself for forgetting to go to HobbyLobby!!  Grr! roll  I'll have to go sometime next week.  (and remember to remove those freak magnets from my pockets next time!)

That's funny.  wink  I used to get those types too, but not anymore it seems, luckily.  I must have run out of magnets.  big_smile

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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