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Pictus wrote:

Strange strange world...

-Inca Sun virgins, Greek virgin Oracle of Delphi, virgin Joan of Arc, Virgin Mary...
-Mutilations to diminish or not have any sex pleasure
-The bad guys with strong twisted sex drive stuff
-Moon phase influences sex desire
-Kundaline

Connecting the dots what it gives ?

Jerry Springer.

Just kidding!  Actually, it gives a whole lot of mixed signals about why reproducing is so encouraged, yet there's been so much taboo negativity associated with actually enjoying it.  It's just more fear produced control at the most basic level.  It's predatorial.

"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." ~ Mark Twain

47 (edited by Free_Your_Mind 2006-09-14 03:15:33)

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Penn & Teller did an actually impressive BullSh!t episode about circumcision, completely blasting the mutilators for what they are. Their vulgar attitude really helped carry the point! And they even covered restoration very well.

I saw something in the newspaper only a few weeks ago about a "new study" supporting circumcision to lower HIV/AIDS and what not, and plans to set up "treatment" in africa! Though they did mention setting up such an operation for (operations), would be costly and cumbersome.

roll

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A woman named Faye Flam is a great science and health writer who also writes a kickbutt sexuality column called Carnal Knowledge. I found her writing because it's distributed by the same newswire service that distributes one of my columns.

Anyway, this thread has me thinking about the weird stuff most people don't know about the medical profession's historical approach to sexual matters. If you're ready for a bit of a chuckle, I highly recommend this column Flam wrote about vibrators and masturbation - not for cheap thrills, more because of the following excerpt and what she reveals here:

"According to Cornell University researcher Rachel Maines, the first vibrator was invented in 1883 as a medical device. Doctors used it to give their patients "pelvic massages" to produce "hysterical paroxysm" as a cure for a disease they called hysteria. The device was designed to mechanize a job doctors had been doing ñù believe it or not ñù by hand.

"Maines chronicled her findings in the 1999 book "The Technology of Orgasm." The real bombshell, she said, was that doctors had been giving women orgasms as a so-called medical treatment since the time of Hippocrates.

"By the late 19th century, hysteria was hitting epidemic proportions, with women complaining of paralyzed limbs, sudden inability to speak and other bizarre symptoms magically relieved by their doctor's touch.

"But some doctors complained the technique was difficult to learn. According to one biographer, Sigmund Freud tried to learn it, says Maines, but never got the hang of it."

(end excerpt)

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/h … dge05.html

There were lots of "hysteria" diagnoses in the old days!  Now we finally know what that was all about.

LipstickMystic aka Jennifer

49 (edited by visavis 2006-09-14 10:22:14)

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omg Lipstick that's crazy!

Pictus wrote:

-Inca Sun virgins, Greek virgin Oracle of Delphi, virgin Joan of Arc, Virgin Mary...
-Mutilations to diminish or not have any sex pleasure

These 2 remind me of "thou shalt not eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil", in the sense of forcefully holding one's self-realizing evolution BACK

Pictus wrote:

-The bad guys with strong twisted sex drive stuff

Most of the 'elite' are homosexual.

Pictus wrote:

-Moon phase influences sex desire
-Kundaline

Hmm. I've not done too much research in these two areas but there is probably something indeed there...

I am growing more and more aware that it does in fact appear that the illuminati/tptb are seeking to develop an androdgenous human race

A small handful of researchers (like Springmeier) have mentioned this, often only in passing.  Henry Mackow (savethemales.ca) reports that undescended testes in infant boys has become a virtual epidemic over the past few years alone.  Dr Al Sears is putting together the pieces of how millions of tons of chemicals -- chemicals which imitate estrogen and thus attach themselves to estrogen receptors in our bodies -- are dumped in the environment.  Fish are going transgender, alligators' penises are shrinking measurably, and human males' testosterone/estrogen ratio is going wayyyy down.  ED, or impotence, has never been higher.  We're told to eat Viagra/Levitra like they are M&M's but have NO IDEA what other negative effects we are creating in our bodies by this.  Amerika is leading the way.  It's all happening with fierce intensity over the past 25 or so years.

Circumcision is a part of this, over the longer-term of this same clandestine objective.  As is social programming in movies (massive homosexuality themes being pushed - think about it, and about what an androdgenous race is).  Think about the women in western society, and how much they're being pushed to become like men (think about car ads even...).  Some of the women I know are just so frustrated and feel like they can't connect with themselves and their own natural femininity in a natural and consisent way.

I feel this is an important issue that really needs to be investigated.  I see it play out in my own life, and I'm a 29 year old healthy man. 

If you don't want to consider that our sexuality is being stripped away, then think careful about what the next 25 years could be like if these social and individual symptoms continue at the same pace.  Unless things are reversed, the ultimate result could be no less than eventual androdgeny, could it?

We need to rigorously defend our sexuality in this day and age.  For men, there are some natural supplements we can take to lower our estrogen and raise our testosterone.  I have synchronistically come across a lot of this info recently, and if there is interest let me know and I can post some specifics.  The book 12 Secrets to Virility is excellent - email me if you are interested to read the pdf version.

"The unknown does not incite fear, but dependence on the known does." - J. Krishnamurti

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Oh god my husband would kill me but he is 48 and has ED. Physically there is nothing wrong. The doctor gave him all that crap, Viagra, Cialis, Levitra, and to be honest those pills dont do a darn thing. It may get the equipment to run once in awhile but doenst do anything for desire. So if you have any suggestions as far as natural remedies, let me know.
Thank you,
Desparate Housewife

In man's analysis and understanding of himself, it is as well to know from whence he came as whither he is going.   Edgar Cayce

Beliefs are tools for social conditioning, rather than expressions of inner realization or inner truth.   unknown
Ad Verecundiam

51 (edited by Barefoot Doc 2006-09-14 12:00:33)

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Hi treehugger check out my link on the bottom of page 1 and see if you think it may help.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

52 (edited by lyra 2006-09-14 12:14:10)

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visavis wrote:

I am growing more and more aware that it does in fact appear that the illuminati/tptb are seeking to develop an androdgenous human race

A small handful of researchers (like Springmeier) have mentioned this, often only in passing.  Henry Mackow (savethemales.ca) reports that undescended testes in infant boys has become a virtual epidemic over the past few years alone.  Dr Al Sears is putting together the pieces of how millions of tons of chemicals -- chemicals which imitate estrogen and thus attach themselves to estrogen receptors in our bodies -- are dumped in the environment.  Fish are going transgender, alligators' penises are shrinking measurably, and human males' testosterone/estrogen ratio is going wayyyy down.  ED, or impotence, has never been higher.  We're told to eat Viagra/Levitra like they are M&M's but have NO IDEA what other negative effects we are creating in our bodies by this.  Amerika is leading the way.  It's all happening with fierce intensity over the past 25 or so years.

Circumcision is a part of this, over the longer-term of this same clandestine objective.  As is social programming in movies (massive homosexuality themes being pushed - think about it, and about what an androdgenous race is).  Think about the women in western society, and how much they're being pushed to become like men (think about car ads even...).  Some of the women I know are just so frustrated and feel like they can't connect with themselves and their own natural femininity in a natural and consisent way.

I feel this is an important issue that really needs to be investigated.  I see it play out in my own life, and I'm a 29 year old healthy man. 

If you don't want to consider that our sexuality is being stripped away, then think careful about what the next 25 years could be like if these social and individual symptoms continue at the same pace.  Unless things are reversed, the ultimate result could be no less than eventual androdgeny, could it?


We need to rigorously defend our sexuality in this day and age.  For men, there are some natural supplements we can take to lower our estrogen and raise our testosterone.  I have synchronistically come across a lot of this info recently, and if there is interest let me know and I can post some specifics.  The book 12 Secrets to Virility is excellent - email me if you are interested to read the pdf version.

Hey visavis.....right now I'm in the middle of reading the book that Free_Your_Mind mentioned earlier in this thread, called "Media Sexploitation:  The Hidden Implants in America's Mass Media - and how they program and condition your subconscious mind."  After reading your post I think this book would be right up your alley.  It's almost too disturbing and frustrating for me to read straight through.  I keep pausing to do other things, then go back to it.  Just reading about the campaign to re-shape America's minds in terms of sexuality (thanks to not only advertising, but also porn/nudie mags and all the negative/gender bending mixed messages being given to the public) is very frustrating.   It's stuff Henry Makow has been ranting about for years, so since you're familiar with his work, then this is a book worth reading that you'd enjoy.   Anyway, there's so much to say about it.   If you're interested, ask Free_Your_Mind to email you a copy of it too.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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LM, I came across the same info about the doctors smile Brings a whole new meaning to Dr.- Patient confidentiality lol

Lyra, I think I sent him the book before you, lol!

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visavis wrote:

Most of the 'elite' are homosexual.

They play with twisted energies, those who play with fire always got burned...

visavis wrote:

We need to rigorously defend our sexuality in this day and age.  For men, there are some natural supplements we can take to lower our estrogen and raise our testosterone.  I have synchronistically come across a lot of this info recently, and if there is interest let me know and I can post some specifics.  The book 12 Secrets to Virility is excellent - email me if you are interested to read the pdf version.

Thank you!
I do not want to raise my libido now(celibate phase), but good info is always welcome!
And it is related to muscles...

treehugger wrote:

So if you have any suggestions as far as natural remedies, let me know.

The book Visavis mentioned looks interesting, I may add physical exercises
plus catuaba http://www.rain-tree.com/ethnic.htm#catuaba

Bye, Pictus

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treehugger wrote:

Oh god my husband would kill me but he is 48 and has ED. Physically there is nothing wrong. The doctor gave him all that crap, Viagra, Cialis, Levitra, and to be honest those pills dont do a darn thing. It may get the equipment to run once in awhile but doenst do anything for desire. So if you have any suggestions as far as natural remedies, let me know.
Thank you,
Desparate Housewife

There's some stuff called Stamina RX that contains yohimbe and other things.  The health food and convenience stores have trouble keeping enough in stock, that's how well it sells.  So others must think it helps too.  It definately has the seal of approval at my house.

:blush:

Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great and would suffice.  ~Robert Frost

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I've been taking Maca (Lepidium meyenii - an organic peruvian root extract).

My wife likes it. smile

57 (edited by visavis 2006-09-14 15:30:37)

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Lyra - thanks for the recommendation. I'm definitely looking forward to reading that ebook!

Re: Stamina RX / yohimbe... yohimbe is actually illegal in Canada.  Even though it's completely natural tree bark from africa.  Also against the rules here, is DHEA - a naturally occuring precursor to testosterone.

(And on another topic, did I mention that the highest legal dose of potassium here, is 99mg?  A banana has 600-700mg.  HAHAHAHA... errr... MMWAHAHAHAHA...)  <freaking joke>

"The unknown does not incite fear, but dependence on the known does." - J. Krishnamurti

58 (edited by manyeagles 2006-09-14 15:47:01)

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Treehugger,

Check out info on soy (estrogenic properties)-my honey will not eat soy products after a male co-worker pointed out some interesting research.  Protein, consumed via meat- without hormones an absolute!!!!! 

I've noticed an increase in male "gyno" (boobies  yikes-a cup size many a gal get implants for)  Kinda scary seeing how our bodies are getting assaulted right and left so fast.

ED, way more common than the general public (my opinion) is aware of.  This is a very delicate and private kind of issue with men, and may be due to clogged arteries-the heart is not the only body part that contain arteries....

Lotsa TLC, unconditional love, and perhaps alternative modalities of medicine may be effective.  Let's face it-western medicine is the newbie on the block so to speak.

If there is no time
      Then you have time for everything.
   You're never in a hurry.
That's true freedom.

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And removing sections of skin certianly doesn't help with blood circulation either.

There is a herbal supplement called Ropex, which not only increases the amount of sperm produced but increases the intensity and even length of orgasm, with "rope-like" ejaculations, and even multiple orgasms.

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manyeagles, great info in your post. Soy products contain generally 80% carbs (not all protein like you've heard), and yea some other recent research hasn't sounded all that great.

I've summarized as much of the 12 Steps to Virility book I can, into a 1-page printable PDF chart: http://www.expositus.net/health/2006/12 … ummary.pdf

cheers

ps - apologies this thread has gotten so far off track... largely my doing.  But I hope this info and dialog can be very useful to some.

"The unknown does not incite fear, but dependence on the known does." - J. Krishnamurti