1 (edited by Free_Your_Mind 2006-09-17 08:12:31)

Topic: Circumcision

I'm almost suprised this hasn't been discussed on a site like this, this subject is what opened my eyes to the world of lies and conspiracies around us.

I almost don't know how to begin, yes I am a victim of this senseless ritual. It is why I researched it in the first place, and a very passionate subject of mine. I can't stand the ignorance surrounding the issue, with some women likening it to "skinning a potato". It broils my blood, to think that these women could possibly be a mother of an unfortunate male baby.

Why? is the question I have always asked. Why is AMERIKA the only industrialized nation that not only continues the practice, but has set the world record for nation wide RIC, or Routine Infant Circumcision, at 95% (although it has been dropping, slowly).

Studies have shown that the infant victim's brain literally re-wires itself after the traumatic experience, interrupting it's development before it even has a chance. Then these children can grow up with violent tendencies towards the society that created them. Or suicidal, as is my case.

I could go on and on about the various physical, mental and societal implications. Even Aliens have come up in my research, with the theory that our bodies are already "hybrids", and the foreskin is the only (male)component with the higher concentration of human genes, therefore taking this away (and early!) can leave us with more "alien" influence/genetic code. Every mammal on earth has a foreskin.

I guess I wanted to open the floor to your opinions, theories, ideas etc. Did you know that facial beauty products used by women actually contain foreskins! It was even exposed on Oprah from what i've heard.

This runs pretty deep from my research...

P.S. I couldn't care less about an ADULT who made this decision for himself, but strapping a baby down without any consent or ability to resist is just WRONG.

P.P.S. I want to add for the first time readers who may not read the whole thing, the penis was designed to be an internal organ. Removing the foreskin is akin to removing your eyelids, do you think you would see very good (or at all) if your eyeballs dried up?

2 (edited by lyra 2006-09-12 04:47:27)

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Well, I hear you Free Your Mind.  Montalk used to have an article about this years back actually, around 2001 or  so.   I happened to mention it in a piece I wrote last year regarding modern health practices and how so much of what's going on is bunk.  Covered the gambit, including circumcision, likening it to genital mutilation, to get the point across to the reader.  I actually had to go back into that particular paragraph section about circumcision and tone it down a little.  wink  In my original version I said that I understand that for Jews, it's an actual religion custom. Okay, fine....but why is the rest of the - non-Jewish - society partaking in this? 


Free Your Mind wrote:

I can't stand the ignorance surrounding the issue, with some women likening it to "skinning a potato"

I've been reading articles about this over the years describing how (women) nurses are actually quitting their jobs after having to go through these procedures enough times.   They can't reconcile being a nurse who's supposed to create health and well being with holding down an unsuspecting infant and performing a traumatizing mutilation.  But certainly, there are enough women - and males - who will argue for this procedure like you said, because they've been conditioned to believe that having foreskin is "unhygenic" and creatse all sorts of issuess.  I say, it's called "soap and water."  How difficult can that be? 



Free Your Mind wrote:

Studies have shown that the infant victim's brain literally re-wires itself after the traumatic experience, interrupting it's development before it even has a chance. Then these children can grow up with violent tendencies towards the society that created them. Or suicidal, as is my case.

I could go on and on about the various physical, mental and societal implications.

Well, I think you figured out the conspiracy behind it.   Granted, it's not a forced, mandatory procedure, which would make it blatently obvious to people that there's an agenda of sorts behind it, but like with all things, TPTB just have to work at getting as much of the population as possible to buy the story and willingly engage in it.   And the rest just works itself out. 

Who knows.....maybe by starting this thread you've opened up a few more people's eyes to this and maybe even helped prevent a few more babies from having this done to them.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Re: Circumcision

Just so you know. I was one of these horrible people that had my son circumsized back in 1983 when he was born. Now mind you, we were told that it was basically a required procedure unless you were Jewish. I cried all day when they did it. They dont give them any anesthesia when they do it and it was one of the most horrible things to go thru when you are a new mother, listening to your newborn child scream. Yes, I was naive back then, and too afraid to say NO. I know different now, and so do a lot of other people. Having said that, it wasnt the only procedure going on back then in medicine that inflicted cruelty upon people.

In man's analysis and understanding of himself, it is as well to know from whence he came as whither he is going.   Edgar Cayce

Beliefs are tools for social conditioning, rather than expressions of inner realization or inner truth.   unknown
Ad Verecundiam

4 (edited by Barefoot Doc 2006-09-12 07:04:58)

Re: Circumcision

Its a ritual blood sacrifice that happens to be big business too.
Trauma and ritual sacrifice combined is very powerfull dark magic.

Edit: are the vast majority of males circumcised in the US then? its very rare here in non Jewish folk AFAIK and only suggested for rare medical reasons.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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Well, this thread is guaranteed to bring out the defensiveness in people who've had this done to their kids.  I don't think the thread is intended so much as a "Let's attack all the parents on NR who've had this done and try to make them feel like shit!" so much as it's a discussion designed to inform all those potential parents out there and public in general of the drawbacks and non-necesity of this procedure.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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treehugger wrote:

Just so you know. I was one of these horrible people that had my son circumsized back in 1983 when he was born. Now mind you, we were told that it was basically a required procedure unless you were Jewish. I cried all day when they did it. They dont give them any anesthesia when they do it and it was one of the most horrible things to go thru when you are a new mother, listening to your newborn child scream. Yes, I was naive back then, and too afraid to say NO. I know different now, and so do a lot of other people. Having said that, it wasnt the only procedure going on back then in medicine that inflicted cruelty upon people.

Your not a horrible Mother, 23 years ago i would have done exactly what Doctors told me to and believed in vaccinations and all the rest.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

7 (edited by Pinkrlyq 2006-09-12 07:51:18)

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treehugger wrote:

Now mind you, we were told that it was basically a required procedure unless you were Jewish.

Ironic, isn't it?!  I thought I was the only one who was taught this lie, too.  I can't remember just where or who told me this nonsense, but I'm assuming it was in "Health Ed" in school.  It wasn't until I was out of school that I realized that what I'd learned was the exact opposite of the truth!  How does that just happen?!  It used to be such a taboo subject, and I can understand your naivety 1983, Treehugger.  But I can't believe that the hospital would tell you such a thing!  Talk about a crazy conspiracy!!

Free_Your_Mind wrote:

I couldn't care less about an ADULT who made this decision for himself, but strapping a baby down without any consent or ability to resist is just WRONG.

I couldn't agree with you more, Free Your Mind.

"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." ~ Mark Twain

Re: Circumcision

Well, when I look back to the 60's and 70's, you trusted your doctor. I could tell you some really awful stories about doctors and hospitals that I encountered. I was taught as a kid that there were certain adults that you trusted, and they knew better than you.  That meant, doctors, teachers, policemen, etc. In fact, I was afraid to say "no" to these people.  It took awhile to get over that programming.  Its amazing the things we were told.

In man's analysis and understanding of himself, it is as well to know from whence he came as whither he is going.   Edgar Cayce

Beliefs are tools for social conditioning, rather than expressions of inner realization or inner truth.   unknown
Ad Verecundiam

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I was also encouraged to have them circumsize my son as well.  They scare you with stories of poor hygiene and infection and you think, well, if I let them do this, my son won't ever have to worry about that.  Oh, and some years later they came up with a connection between uncircumsized penises and cervical cancer, and I'm sure a lot of people decided to do it because of that pronouncement.  I wouldn't do it now.

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Re: Circumcision

Circumcised folks here on the board might find it helpful to consider the following healing protocol. It works and has been extensively "road tested." smile

Any traumatic injury to the body opens up holes in the auric field. Think of these as black holes connecting you to the dark zones.

Stuff will start to flood into the auric field coming from these dark zones.  These include negative entities, psychic debris, and all manner of general ick.

Depending on how heavily these have accumulated in a person's energy field (the bubble of energy surrounding the body - or it's more of an egg, really) the person will experience various negative effects.

The person might only experience heaviness in the emotional body, causing low level problems like depression, lethargy, a tendency to anger, etc.

Or it might create physical illnesses.  It's all about how big the holes are and how much gunk has come into the energy field.

Now, these holes can be sealed up.  You can do this by beaming a color known as "electric violet" into the energy field to seal these holes up throughout time and probability. Electric violet is a deep violet with a bit of divine golden energy percolating through it. It's a color that not only expels "demons" or seriously negative entities, it also expels lower level crud.  Envision Spirit taking all of that gunk off to the Light. Or do some work with sound, such as shamanic drumming, rattling, ringing a Tibetan chime or bowl, to drive that stuff out of your field. Sound is also powerful for driving stuff out.

The next part of the healing protocol is to heal the soul loss surrounding the traumatic injury (circumcision being the traumatic injury in this case.)  Nasty stuff done to babies is truly horrible because the baby is just completely OPEN in a psychic sense and they go through enough trauma during birth as it is. Circumcision on top of that is really bad news. A big chunk of vital soul essence or soul spark is usually lost, taken off through the dark hole in the auric field for use by negative beings.

So....you need to do soul retrieval on yourself. Admittedly, healing yourself tends to be "master" level healing work, not everyone feels confident about doing this. Sometimes it is easier to receive healing from somebody else. But you CAN do soul retrieval for yourself.

The concept is simple - pieces of your vital soul essence have been driven out of you, lost during the injury. And you want them back.

Stand in your power as a spiritually sovereign being, invoke Spirit or whatever level of the Divine you feel comfortable accessing, and work with your Higher Self/Angels/etc. to reclaim those soul fragments from whatever dimensions they're in. You reclaim these fragments NOW as a spiritually sovereign being and ask that they be cleansed of all negativity and then gently and lovingly integrated back into your system.

You'll feel the fragments return.  You need to then stabilize these fragments with some loving energy. Light blue is very good for "stapling things down" when they've been returned. Actually, it's just stabilizing and anchoring those fragments back into your system.

You might need to do the soul retrieval work over a period of weeks, working on it each day. Sometimes, we're not able to receive 100% of the vitality that has been lost, because we're so used to operating at low energy that if all of it came back at once it would seriously short circuit us, like a cosmic blast.

So Spirit tends to bring back exactly the pieces and fragments you can comfortably and easily integrate NOW.

The two things -  closing up the holes in the energy field and doing soul retrieval around the issue that created the trauma in the field - are the things that reverse serious illnesses and problems of all kinds.

There's another aspect, which is cleansing the areas and chakras that have been affected. Sometimes, a male's sexual chakra will be cracked because of circumcision. This also happens to people suffering from sexual abuse. So sometimes you need to beam healing energies and colors into the chakra to seal up the cracks and also remove debris that has gathered in the chakra and surrounding glands and organs.

But the two pieces of sealing up the holes in the aura and reclaiming lost fragments of your vital essence will truly change your reality and can even create major personality changes.

Because many people have not truly BEEN themselves for their ENTIRE LIFETIME here in physical form, if this trauma and soul loss happened early enough.

Birth trauma itself can create a lot of soul loss. That's why the healing technique known as rebirthing has a certain popularity, because that technique addresses birth trauma to some extent.

Okay, I just want to mention that for everything - even circumcision - there is a cure. Explore these concepts from a place of your own understanding, and you'll experience significant results.

LipstickMystic aka Jennifer

Re: Circumcision

This is another one of those things that is pretty much a non-issue in the UK (and probably the rest of Europe too) i.e. very few people have it done, and it isn't really even talked about.  It really does highlight how TPTB gained control in many areas of American society.  We often hear that the US is "the great experiment" - talk about mind gaimes!!

I really feel for all those people that have been manipulated into these sorts of things.

12 (edited by Free_Your_Mind 2006-09-12 15:28:40)

Re: Circumcision

lyra wrote:

I don't think the thread is intended so much as a "Let's attack all the parents on NR who've had this done and try to make them feel like shit!" so much as it's a discussion designed to inform all those potential parents out there and public in general of the drawbacks and non-necesity of this procedure.

Exactly.

I always felt there was "more to it" then the incredible amounts of money etc, and LipstickMystic pointed out the auric "holes", something I agree with, not to mention blood sacrifice etc.

I've had a dream, where "someone" was practically presenting me with an uncut penis on a pedastal under a spotlight in a dark room, and I could experience the new sensations as I examined it. It was a vivid and mind-blowing dream, as if for the first time the nuerel nets in the brain associated with these pleasures were finally opened up.

I wanted to mention that there are devices and methods to "grow" the skin back, to reclaim some of the sensitivity loss. It works by using tension on the skin, which can cause it to grow much like a person gets fatter as their stomach expands. It is proven, but takes commitment because it can take years of gradual growth to get full coverage. The sensitivity comes back pretty fast though, and I've shed layers of built up "skin" off my glands (the glands is more like mucous membrane, but to protect itself from the elements it develops a rough surface). Look up "Foreskin Restoration".

Barefoot doc, some american women have never even seen a natural penis, much less been with a natural man. so yes, a high majority.

P.S. Thank you Jennifer, I will work on these methods.

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Thanks for this thread, Free.  My hubby is cut, and we had it done to all three of our sons right after birth.  THEN, years later, I came across the information about how unnecessary and barbaric a practice it is.

When my hubby found out about the huge loss of sensation circumsion causes, he wished he had never been cut. 

He thought about trying to restore it, but his was cut so tightly there's really not much chance of making progress with that.  There are different degrees of the amount of foreskin cut off.  I encourage others to at least think about restoring it, not surgically, but by slowly stretching what tissue is left.

One son's circumsion was also very closely cut, the second son's was less drastic than that, and my third son was left with a decent amount of tissue to work with if he wants to try regowing it.

My first grandchild is on the way...YAY!! and I need to talk to my son about this.  If they aren't comfortable leaving a baby boy the way he was made, perhaps I could talk them into at least a modified/halfway surgery, but either way with ANESTHETIC.

Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great and would suffice.  ~Robert Frost

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I'm glad everyone so far understands how barbaric it is.  I thought nothing of it before, and then my monther-in-law explained to me what was up -- the trauma, etc. -- it's like, duh, can you say obvious?  I had been duped all my life!  I don't have any children (yet?), but I would never do the horrid circumcision "ritual".  A few years ago I would have.  If the child wants to do it later in life under anesthesia, fine.  It is a horrible, horrible custom!  The only reason the custom endures is because a tiny infant can't speak!

Aquarius, maybe your children will find it reasonable to just "wait" and let the child decide for himself later?  It's not like it will be "now or never"!  Good luck!

Re: Circumcision

They cut me fairly tight, but it's an un-even cut! underneath the shaft my scrotum connects to the scar-line.

theres nothing more damaging to a mans psyche then something horribly wrong with his genitals!

I can't be the only one who can connect the dots between Erectile Dysfunction in USA and circumcision? It's a big business with all that Levitra, Viagra, Cialis, etc etc. As one person said, it helps with the hydraulics, but nothing for the sexual pleasure.