• From: somewhere over the rainbow
  • Registered: 2006-07-24

Topic: Heroes TV Show

Heroes is a serial saga about people all over the world discovering that they have superpowers and trying to deal with how this change affects their lives. The relatable superheroes include Peter Petrelli, a 30-year-old male nurse who believes can fly, Diego Medina, a 28-year-old junkie who has the ability to paint images of the future when he is high, Niki Sanders, a 33-year-old Las Vegas showgirl who can do incredible things with mirrors, Hiro Makamura, a 24-year-old Japanese comic-book geek who literally makes time stand still, D.L. Hawkins, a 31-year-old inmate who can transport himself through walls, Matt Parkman, a beat cop who can hears other people's thoughts, and Claire Bennet, 17-year-old cheerleader who defies death at every turn. Not only are they discovering what having superpowers means to them but also the larger picture of where their superpowers come from. Eventually their superpowers draw them together when they try to evade the series' antagonist who wants to harness their super-DNA for himself. Their ultimate destiny is nothing less than saving the world.

http://www.tv.com/heroes/show/17552/sum … ll_summary

I can't help myself.  I have to ask.  I saw a preview for this new NBC series recently and I don't know quite what to make of it.  Levitation, clairvoyance, substance (ab)use, alter-egos, time travel/manipulation, teleportation, telepathy, regeneration, the struggle for world domination, etc...there's a whoooooole lot of ground to cover there.  Does this seem the slightest bit odd to anyone?

Fare Thee Well

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2 Reply by Free_Your_Mind (edited by Free_Your_Mind 2006-08-22 18:39:32)

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  • Registered: 2006-01-13

Re: Heroes TV Show

Interesting is the abilities each "character" has, a prison inmate being able to transport through the very walls limiting his freedom- a law enforcement officer that can read thoughts (thought enforcement?)- and the fact that these powers are DNA based, not technical or "etherical(?)" in nature. Oh yeah, a comic book geek that can "freeze-frame" time (get it?)

Or maybe i read into these things too much, second nature of mine to pick apart and analyize especially with the television and movie department of propaganda. But I figure the more in-depth I can understand something, the less effect and influence it can have on me, my thoughts or my actions.

  • From: somewhere over the rainbow
  • Registered: 2006-07-24

Re: Heroes TV Show

ooooh...clever!  *smirks*

No, as it so happens, I DIDN'T "get it" until you pointed it out.  Thank you!  I especially like your "freeze-frame" correlation.  That's a good one!  And the "thought police".  Bravo!  What do you make of the Vegas show girl and her mirrors?  Shapeshifting reference, maybe?  I've heard there are a lot of lounge lizards down that way.  Haha!  (oh man, i'm such a nerd).   

*ahem* Anyway, I did note the DNA thing.  Not your usual fair, is it?  No bump on the noggin or radioactive bug bites or toxic waste exposure or scientific experiments gone awry or species-wide mutation; this is more suggestive of a "reawakening" of latent, natural abilities.  I like that.  Another thing that just caught my eye are their ages, especially the thirty-somethings (30, 31, 33...uh...nm...no need to go there).  Point is, they're all relatively young adults. 

Oh and what's this "they try to evade the series' antagonist"?  Since when did evasion become the tactic of choice?  Generally speaking, don't superheroes usually wage war across the skies battle-royale style?  Hard to speculate about the antagonist with so little to go on, but I must admit I am curious.  Not much can really be said for certain except that it's a man and not woman nor beast (or robot / cyborg / supercomputer).  I bet he's a "suit", tho.

Why DO we kick ourselves for finding messages in the media?  Maybe we ought to cut that out.  If something (anything!) helps me gather up all these scattered, complex notions and form them into even a semblance of working hypotheses so I can improve my grasp on things then, hey, who am I to argue?  Look how they've revelled in using the media for their own nefarious purposes.  Why should they have all the fun?  You're right.  We might as well use it, too.  Table-turning, anyone?  (told ya i was a nerd).

Now I wonder who's running this show behind the scenes.  Oscar Wilde said that life imitates art far more than art imitates life.  Now, supposing 'Hereos' is an artform and not just your everyday prime-time fodder, which would this be, do you think?  Which is more likely?  The former and seemingly more common situation of life imitating art or is it the latter, and seemingly less common scenario, of art imitating life?  If we knew that would it help identify who's pulling those strings?  *ugh*  I better slow down...almost pulled a brain muscle there.  Oh well.  At least this'll keep my wheels spinning for awhile.

Fare Thee Well

http://www.westegg.com/einstein/
  • From: Present Day Earth
  • Registered: 2006-01-13

Re: Heroes TV Show

Don't really know about the vegas girl and the mirrors, I guess it depends on what she can do with them because it doesnt really say?

I wouldnt doubt the lizard-las vegas connection though, in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas there is the infamous scene with the lizards. And i've heard that many people on LSD actually see this, and not hallucinating because it's always the same people as lizards, not randomized.

Ah yes, and the 17 year old girl who is "invincible", sounds familiar...

  • From: An infinite aether cloud
  • Registered: 2006-08-23

Re: Heroes TV Show

Call me paranoid, but it seems to me that many of these shows seem designed to "fictionalize" potential realities.  That by putting these scenarios into an entertainment work of fiction it creates a subconscious block in the general populace.  We're raised to discern a difference between "reality" and "make-believe" to such an extent that this discernment no longer occurs on a conscious level.  Thus shows like 24 or this Heroes show subconsciously get people thinking that the situations in these shows can't happen in "real life". For those still locked in the Matrix (haven't read enough on the forums here yet, has using that metaphor gotten old yet) this establishes a kind of "reality shaping" directing them to not perceive these potentials.

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  • Registered: 2006-07-24

Re: Heroes TV Show

All excellent points, Celphais, and I wholeheartedly agree.  They have been (mis)leading us down the garden path for quite some time now.  Reminds me of a time back when I was a kid.  I watched the movie Orca on TV and it upset me to no end, I just bawled and bawled over it and my mom tried to calm me down by telling me it wasn't real, it's just a show and I really shouldn't let it bother me so much.  Nowadays, it seems reversed.  I've had to tell my kids things like, "Erin Brokovich is real you know.  This is based on a true story.  See the waitress in that scene?  That's her.  Yes, PG&E really did do that to all those people.  Well, as far as I know they're still in business.  You'd have to find that out for yourself if you want to know for sure." 

Here's another thing that's been puzzling me ever since I first heard it.  My own Hero, Albert Einstein, was once quoted as warning against the dangers of science fiction (i just tried to google it up but i almost got lost in all the science-related quotes out there.  there's some really good ones! you guys should check 'em out).  I hardly believed he ever said anything like that but I couldn't deny it.  I think I've resolved it now, tho.  I just had to put it into context.  I mean, what kind of SF had the good doctor been exposed to during his time?  Had he ever met the likes of Roddenberry or Sagan or Asimov?  This actually occured to me last night as I howled my way through 'How William Shatner Changed the World" again.  Gawd, that show is friggin' hilarious.  It even had a clip of Captain Kirk saying something about man's natural repulsion of lizards while he's looking at an alien lizard on-screen.  Ya.  That kinda sobered me up a bit.  Trekkies, too (or is it Trekkers?).  I thought that show (documentary?) was going to be so dumb.  Was I ever wrong.

Anyway, where was I?  Oh ya.  Nah, the Matrix metaphor isn't old yet.  It's still going strong around here (well, it is for me at least, and in a big way).  I haven't seen 24 at all so I can't really comment on it.  My main new shows are Lost and Deadwood and (I'm embarassed to say) my old ones were ER and Survivor, what I used to call my 'braincandy'.  I almost quit ER altogether last season but then they brought in John Leguizamo, which was a brilliant move on their part.  Sucked me right back in (lol).  Not Survivor, tho.  It doesn't grab me anymore.  Before it was like a little macrocosm (or is it micro?  i always get those two mixed up) of society but now it's just like the same shite in different piles (imo). 

Lost my train of thought again.  Um....there's two other trailers I'd like to mention.  They're for movies, not TV, but whatever.  Zoom, with Tim Allen and the six year old who can lift cars, and what's that one with all the evil ghosts and whatnot that come and grab you thru the TV and computer monitors?  I can't remember, but when I saw it my initial reaction was "What a load of bunk.  Trying to scare us off, eh?".  Oh, there is one other new TV series called N9NES(?) coming this fall that piqued my interest, but I only caught a glimpse of it so I have no idea what it's about.  It's getting the time-slot after Lost, tho. 

I guess it all boils down to moderation and the power of discernment (as usual), which btw, makes me glad I watched Sesame Street while I was growing up.  ~One of these things is not like the other~One of these things just doesn't belong~  Media is such a powerful tool, yet it's been wielded like a weapon against us for so long we forget.  Can I mention one more thing?  I was watching TV alone late one night not that long ago (have i only been here a month? egads!) and I changed the channel but whatever show it was that I expected to come on wasn't on.  Instead there's this guy talking about frequencies and vibrations and human conciousness and I'm like WTH?  Who is this guy?  So I listen to him for a while cuz he's talking about all the crazy mixed-up things that brought me here in the first place, but then someone woke up so I changed the channel back to "normal TV".  Almost an hour later I decide to check and see if it's still on, even though the guide says that that channel has now gone off the air.  Lo and behold, he's still there.  Only now he's talking about reptilian beings and the monarchy, which, although I'd heard it mentioned here and there before, I'd never given any serious thought.  Long story short, turns out it was David Icke.  Never heard of him before.  So I come here to see what I can see and, well you can imagine the rest. 

What I'm trying to get at is that I don't see the logic in "throwing the baby out with the bath water".  Never have.  Yes, there's oodles of shite on TV, but sometimes you gotta take the bad with the good.  Besides, if it gives perfect strangers common ground to discuss significant and abstract theories, much like music and poetry and literature does, shouldn't we be all for it?  Maybe the rules of engagement have changed.  Or maybe we need to change them ourselves and reclaim that lost power.  Maybe that's already happening.  I don't know.  Fact is, I don't know what I don't know any more than I don't know what you don't know.  So how are we supposed to be able to communicate effectively? 

I better take a break.  I'm confusing myself here.  This is pretty long winded anyway and in all likelihood been said before, ad nauseum, which would explain why most people are sick and tired of the great TV debate.  Oh well.  To each their own.  All we can do is wait and see what the show has to offer when the time comes.   And if, while we're watching it, anyone happens to say that telekinesis (for instance) is cool and wouldn't it be neat if it was "real" I will be the first to reply with, "what makes you think it isn't?".

Fare Thee Well

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  • From: Present Day Earth
  • Registered: 2006-01-13

Re: Heroes TV Show

There was a preview for a new show coming out, called "Vanished". The announcer voice was talking about decades or centuries old conspiracies and how it went to the "highest level" as it shows the presidential motorcade through washington. And all through the preview, they were using "flash" type transitions between clips and I could see the masonic G with the compass and ruler symbol subliminally flashed, along with all seeing eye etc. You had to be quick though, it lasted a micro-second but was "burned" into my vision enough to catch them.

Interesting times these are, I don't think they even care what we think because they have the power anyways.

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  • Registered: 2006-08-23

Re: Heroes TV Show

Bah f*ck that.  WE have the power just as much as they.  They hold the reigns on 3D Earth, but that doesn't make us powerless.  I'm convinced that we (as individuals) just need to figure out the most effecient methods of anchoring higher dimensional capabilities into 3D Earth until such a time that Consensus Reality breaks down to the point that the physical world is more malleable.

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Re: Heroes TV Show

Heroes deals with Grey Area morality, and I say grey area, because predators (namely, con men) feed on gray area morality conflicts.  A con man knows that 9 times out of 10, a person is going to feel obligated to do the right thing, and acts accordingly.  The intention of this show, I believe, encourages those "special" people who can occasionally display superhuman powers to try and start tapping them more often.  If the last sentence sounded a bit odd to you, then there is no need to continue reading this post. 

What you have is all you need.  If you find it, let me know because I'm still looking for it too.  But I believe that people possess superhuman abilities.  Additionally, a cold sensation shivers over me when I think about that statement.  Because I know it will happen at some point: a person will do something so extraordinary that no one will be able to say he/she isn't "superhuman."  Broadcasts will abound in the meda.  They won't have a field day with it; they'll have field months.  I feel sorry for the person who finally accomplishes this task because the stairway to that level of consciousness is dark, long and littered with "distractions."

The thing I like most about the show is that it deals primarily with gray area morality and the effects the powers have on the individuals.  Imagine realizing a power like that of Nathan or Peter Petrelli.  If I was in their place, I would feel like God Himself.  The coolness factor quickly wanes, however, once I involve myself in the first gray area morality situation.  Then, I go through the long phase of hating my power because the light within me draws a distinction in species rather than kind as far as the definition of humanity goes. 

Yet like any human being, I would love to be able to exercise a power like a "hero" when the situation calls for it.  Guess that still makes me human after all smile  Is it disinformation?  Probably.  Is it entertaining to watch?  Definitely!  lol

-CC

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Regardless of the propaganda behind Heroes, it's a terrible show. I've seen a few episodes, including the season finale, and it is just bad. The abilities are cliche, and the acting is terrible. Give us high-quality propaganda, I say!

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12 Reply by Natural Mystic (edited by Natural Mystic 2007-12-04 16:11:13)

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  • Registered: 2005-06-09

Re: Heroes TV Show

Okay

I've been watching this show, and actually bought the first season, just cause I enjoy it and maybe using it as a tool.  Anyways, I was watching the latest season, and just finished seeing the final episode of a saga.  Spoilers ahead!! tongue



The whole scenario of "biological weapons that wipe out 96% of the population" is obviously a fear based tactic, then there are the h3ro3s!

Free_Your_Mind wrote:

Interesting is the abilities each "character" has, a prison inmate being able to transport through the very walls limiting his freedom- a law enforcement officer that can read thoughts (thought enforcement?)- and the fact that these powers are DNA based, not technical or "etherical(?)" in nature. Oh yeah, a comic book geek that can "freeze-frame" time (get it?)

Or maybe i read into these things too much, second nature of mine to pick apart and analyize especially with the television and movie department of propaganda. But I figure the more in-depth I can understand something, the less effect and influence it can have on me, my thoughts or my actions.

I just dl the epi off the 'net with no commercials for enjoyable viewing purposes which allows me to take snapshots of the show too.  Anyways, as a television show I'm always watching to see the info and disinfo in these shows. 

Celephais wrote:

Call me paranoid, but it seems to me that many of these shows seem designed to "fictionalize" potential realities.  That by putting these scenarios into an entertainment work of fiction it creates a subconscious block in the general populace.  We're raised to discern a difference between "reality" and "make-believe" to such an extent that this discernment no longer occurs on a conscious level.  Thus shows like 24 or this Heroes show subconsciously get people thinking that the situations in these shows can't happen in "real life". For those still locked in the Matrix (haven't read enough on the forums here yet, has using that metaphor gotten old yet) this establishes a kind of "reality shaping" directing them to not perceive these potentials.

Indeed.  Well said.

Celephais wrote:

Bah f*ck that.  WE have the power just as much as they.  They hold the reigns on 3D Earth, but that doesn't make us powerless.  I'm convinced that we (as individuals) just need to figure out the most effecient methods of anchoring higher dimensional capabilities into 3D Earth until such a time that Consensus Reality breaks down to the point that the physical world is more malleable.

Funny.  Well said once more.

CrystalClear wrote:

Heroes deals with Grey Area morality, and I say grey area, because predators (namely, con men) feed on gray area morality conflicts.  A con man knows that 9 times out of 10, a person is going to feel obligated to do the right thing, and acts accordingly.  The intention of this show, I believe, encourages those "special" people who can occasionally display superhuman powers to try and start tapping them more often.

Yes.  Now that you've mentioned it, this Gray Area morality is in Lost as well.  I seemed to have lost interest in that show though.  So anyways, this show does offer some wild imaginations which is cool.  Maybe this show is metaphorically real and not just a television show.  This show came into existence just as many imaginations and visions do.  This show deals with individuals finding themselves.  And when situations are presented in the show either in personal relationships or on a mass scale, people are making choices, and understanding why we choose is most key.  This show displays duality, in which there are "special" people, and "normal" people.  And there is this "company" aka illuminati(?) that take special people in and do experiments on them, seeing what their limits are, if they have any.  Saying that they are making the tough decisions for everyone else.  This scenario sounds familiar.  There are two generations, the old and the new, all related most times by blood(?) and it seems that the old formed the "company" and are "evil" while the new are "good".  A lot of dualism.  Anyways, there was a scene in the last episode that really stood out, and inspired me to post about it.  This occurs right after a plot to release a virus that kills people with abilities has been saved by Peter.  Peter is the main character as well, as he can absorb others powers, while his arch rival is Sylar, who can take other peoples abilities by killing them and eating their brains... yum? lol again with the dualism.
Peter<->Cylar
aka
Neo<->Smith

Peter can absorb powers because he is One(?) and self-less as was said in the last episode of last season making him power-full, or full-of-energy DNA activated by his unconditional love(?)

Without further delay here is the interesting scene from the finally.

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13 Reply by Bhang (edited by Bhang 2007-12-04 18:31:54)

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Re: Heroes TV Show

"Hero's"

They were pouring the mold in the 90's. Example? Burning Down Woodstock. Anger and Violence in the mindsets.

The millennium came with a foreshadow of doom. Example? Y2K. Fear of worldwide failure of computer infrastructure.

Then the rumors of the "New-New Year" actually being in the year 2001" Of course 2001 did seem as a critical year worldwide.

Meanwhile television programing began a radical shift in, well... PROGRAMING.

Just a very short list of easily recognizable shows entitled:

1. American Idol - "false idols"

The First Commandment

"I Am the Lord your God…..you shall have no other gods before  me."

Instructing people not to look to any graven image (sculptures of demi-god(s), drawings, writings, glyphs, magic-squares, sigils, music, science papers, etc. or living entity who might raise themselves as a gods, a.k.a Satan; or any myth such as the gods of Olympus or pagan gods.

The Second Commandment
"You shall make no graven image or any likeness of anything in heaven or earth, nor bow down to any such thing." This is derived from the first commandment and leaves no doubt about what God thinks of false idols.

2. Jericho - "It is an understatement to say that Jericho has a legendary history. Besides the lowest city on earth (258 m below sea level) it is thought to be the oldest one. Remember the story about Jericho, as told in the Book of Joshua, that its walls crumbled down without a blow after the Israelites walked round it seven times and blew the shofar. (Ultra High Frequency / Ultra Low Frequency) This would have happened around 1200 BCE. Actually Jericho existed long before that" * edit Bhang.

3. Crossing Jordan - "The part of the Holyland on the eastern side of the Jordan River, in the country of Jordan, is blessed with the rich spiritual heritage of the full story of Salvation as recorded in the Bible. Abraham, Job, Moses, Ruth, Elijah, John the Baptist, Jesus Christ (pbut), Paul and other leading figures from the Bible performed pivotal elements of their divinely-ordained mission in the ancient landscape now within the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan." **

4. Buffy the Vampire Slayer - Spawning several other similarly themed miniseries. All your twelve year old daughters who desire to dress like the hookers of yester-year, dream of vampires, paranormal powers, occult rituals and a long lived, if not, life long fantasies of witch like behavior.  Spawning several other miniseries.

The fans retort,

"On the good side Buffy fights evil"

To which I respond "Although she was banging a vampire and would not eradicate them forever? She only served as a population control device. Buffy became a mini Hitler and Vampires were the Jews"

5. Fear Factor - Exploiting fears. Exposing viewers to extremely unlikely yet fearful situations. Conditioning of the subconscious for fearful and extreme moments/conditions. Even the audiences at home learn a bit about survival in game of dog-eat-dog.


6. Survivor - Subliminal preparation for survival. I've seen them huddle around the tv, outwitting the contestants, trying to pick the weak links. Weeding out those who meek. Don't you people see? Your kids, your family and friends who watch these shows partake in this subliminal game of Preparation. Subliminal Preparation for the main event, or endgame if you will.

"If I was on that island, I would befriend this guy, to betray that guy, to get her out, so he will break. Since I look better I'm sure I will win 'cause my cock is bigger."

I bet many readers who watched the show didn't know how to survive on an island and were shocked to see the work and drama involved.

7. Heros. First thought? The names. Gabriel, Matthew, Peter, Nathaniel, Eden, Isaac and Micah. Then the Japanese Sword (warfare, ritual, technology, spirituality), time travel, paranormal powers and NUKES.

Nukes are a recently recurring theme in the media as of late. These shows are prepping the masses.

(2). * http://www.jewishmag.com/31MAG/jericho/jericho.htm
(3). ** http://www.atlastours.net/jordan/biblical.html

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  • Registered: 2007-09-14

Re: Heroes TV Show

Regardless of the propaganda behind Heroes, it's a terrible show. I've seen a few episodes, including the season finale, and it is just bad. The abilities are cliche, and the acting is terrible. Give us high-quality propaganda, I say!

LoL


On the subject of the use of television propaganda for lauching of tech and preparing young minds for it.
I always found it strange how Captain Kirk could flip a small device and speak to another person off planet or anywhere on the planet in the 60's and the films that followed to the 80's and beyond.
Then around `83 the first bricks/mobiles phones appeared.
Pretty soon they became smaller, flip-phones, the network improved and you could flip it open and speak to someone almost anywhere on the planet.
Is this a good example?

15 Reply by lilmomma (edited by lilmomma 2007-12-05 14:57:49)

  • From: somewhere over the rainbow
  • Registered: 2006-07-24

Re: Heroes TV Show

Nice to see you again, NM!  It's been awhile since we last chatted.  As it turns out, for various reasons I have never seen a single episode of Heroes, although I did have every intention of watching it when I started this thread (way back When in what feels like a whole other lifetime to me now).  You've re-piqued my interest in it, tho, especially by making these comments

Maybe this show is metaphorically real and not just a television show.  This show came into existence just as many imaginations and visions do.  This show deals with individuals finding themselves.  And when situations are presented in the show either in personal relationships or on a mass scale, people are making choices, and understanding why we choose is most key.

so maybe I’ll rent it one of these days and spend an afternoon or two getting caught up with it.  Sorry I can’t get into much of a discourse with you about your plot analysis right now.  Thanks for sharing your thoughts and everything (and BTW, thank you for sharing your most-prolific journal, which I really enjoy and admire smile ).

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Hi Bhang.  That’s quite a list there, although personally I could do without the sarcasm.  Frankly, it's a bit of a turn off and I’ve never found it to be very constructive.  Be that as it may, as biblically-challenged as I am I couldn’t have made the connections you have so aside from that I appreciate hearing things from your perspective.  You certainly won’t get any argument from me about the mass programming aspect of television in general; I definitely agree with you on that, as I’m sure most members would.  But I think that once you've removed yourself from the matrix (figuratively, if not literally) and you’re able to “see through code” it can become a learning tool, a keep-your-friends-close-and-your-enemies-closer or a forewarned-is-forearmed sort of thing.  This quote comes to mind, even if it is a weak analogy:

The Wachowski Brothers wrote:

...there's way too much information to decode the Matrix. You get used to it, though. Your brain does the translating. I don't even see the code. All I see is blonde, brunette, redhead. Hey uh, you want a drink?

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Matrix

Also, from the scuttlebutt I’ve been hearing lately, knowledge protects.  Not just This knowledge or That knowledge but Any and All knowledge.  And I still wonder who’s pulling the strings behind this particular show.  You’d think it’d have a bigger budget if it was a major item on TPTW2B’s agenda.  But I guess in the long run it probably doesn't really matter. 

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Hello Khalil.  I do think that the cell phone is a good example and if you want more of the like I recommend you watch the show I mentioned earlier, “'How William Shatner Changed the World”.  But -again- I have to ask myself, which came first?  Did art imitate life or did life imitate art?   Did Rodenberry read a bunch of scientific papers and decide to write Star Trek?  Or did a bunch of scientists watch Star Trek and decide to invent a cell phone?

Fare Thee Well

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