Topic: Sylphs Schmylphs

All you wishful thinkers out there who think the "Sylphs" are working very hard to
neutralize chemtrails, look again.

See how the chemtrails get dispersed by the upper winds.  Then they become "Sylphs"
I never saw clouds like that until they started spraying in the late 90's. Then  the "Sylphs"
continue to disperse and become that all pervasive fog that dims the sunlight and
serves to be a medium for all their HAARP and Death Tower radiations.

Ah, but don't let me burst your newagey bubble of friendly spirits helping humanity.
There may be some spirits helping us, but it ain't Sylphs.

Tom Paine
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MILITANT AGNOSTIC
   I don't know
and you don't either.

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big_smile  I love it, "Sylphs Schmylphs."

I don't believe in sylphs either, and haven't been able to get a clear answer from sylph believers about *how they know.*  Other than "my intuition tells me!"  I mean, that's well and good, but sometimes something more would be helpful.  And when we're hearing this from (some) people whose intuition and discernment seem to be way off regarding other topics, then I just can't take it seriously.  People claim to watch sylphs eating chemtrails.  But why can't people get video of this?  It's not hard in this day and age. Hell....cellphones now take pictures and video.  Digital cameras with filming capabiliies are relatively inexpensive now versus how much they used to be.  It's not that hard. 

If someone could produce some sort of video, I'd gladly reconsider.  But til then.....Sylphs Schmylphs!  big_smile

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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The trouble with sky watching is that people can't do it with any consistency. 
I mean, people have to work and do things and go inside every now and then.
So, you catch a glimpse of something on your way to the grocery and say hmmm...
then you go do your grocery shopping and whatever you saw has changed by
the time you come out of the store.  Meanwhile, the sheeple don't even look up.

Which brings me to another point.  I first saw "information" about sylphs on
educateyourself.org (or whatever it is) and I thought to myself, this is some
feel good disinfo with supposed military confirmation.  In fact, I can't even go
to that site anymore without feeling like I'm getting some sort of tingling irritation
under my skin.

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I strongly believe that sylphs do exist, but i also strongly believe that this website educateyourself.com is disinfo.

First, one cannot see sylphs in anyway. So if somebody comes to you saying "I took pictures of nice sylphes busting chemtrails", avoid him like the plague, he is either a bizarroid freak, a naive pathetic living in cloud-cukoo land, or a deliberatly lying disinfo-artist. There's alot of good research based on T.J.Constable and Wilhelm Reich on this website, but I can't agree with the rest. The one good point about it is: it's really funny.

But wait a minute: that doesn't mean sylphs do not exist and chemtrails do not affect the skies and maybe sylphs.

Sylph elementals are enduring what we are doing to the air: pollution, chemtrails, etc.
Because of our way to treat nature and the way we disregasrd sylphs and other nature spirits, elementals become bitter and 'fall' prey to Ahriman's seduction. Then they start  to do disgusting things to annoy mankind: tornadoes, tsunamis (in accord with undines), strong destructive winds. They not only show dangerous activity, sometimes they trick us into believing they are extraterrestrials. Or else they start establishing telepathic connexion with somebody's mind and tell some scenario that they fight chemtrails and their sylph-friends are killed, whatever. It is easy to be misguided by these tricksters. They play with us. And we believe them naively!

There really is a war right over our heads: since the Christ coming bak in the 'clouds' (etheric realm), some good elementals came in enforcement to fight the Dragon and its ahrimanic fallen elemental army. Most of their war deeds can be seen in the sky. However, I believe chemtrails make a lot of elemental 'fall'. Then they gain gigantic size and power. In mythology, eleemntals that got out of their proper place (in plants and vegetal life) gain gigantic size and behave in meteorological phenomena : snow, ice cold, bvlizzards and snow storms, big storms, great winds, tornadoes, etc.  You can see they are very often active. They somewhat are in fury against mankind, and they're right in a limited sense.

I refer to cassiopaea: they said that the combat between STS and STO 4D wil be seen 'over our heads'. I think they refered to clouds and meteorology as indicators of this fight. Revelation calls it the battle between the angels of Michael and the Dragon. I think it is fairly accurately described in Revelation. 

Best,

Druid

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I don't deny the possibility of air, fire, water and earth elementals, as well as plant and
animal spirits.  And yes, we are being complete assholes with the world.  This comes
from the biblical supposed "dominion" that we humans have over the world.  We should
co-exist rather than rape and plunder. 
I think that the majority of "humanity" has lost its humane-ness and is in fact insane.
How to change this situation?  Find people who aren't insane and pool your resources,
be that intellectual, emotional or physical resources.
Ah, but don't let the "normals" see you for what you are.

And to quote Ivan Stang of the Church of the Subgenius:
"Jehova is an evil space alien from some Corporate Sin Galaxy"

I don't buy Revelation.  Nor do I think Jesus Christ is going to make everything okay.
We have to make ourselves okay by becoming sane.
I think Jesus was warning us against the Archons and Yaldabaoth (Jehova)
but his teachings were warped and skewed in order to bring about the insanity of
Christian Soldiers, The Inquisition and to set one "religion" against another in order to
create constant warfare, fear and strife so the negative entities can farm our loosh.

Regards,
TP

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My only response to this thread is this.

When you learn to "see" and improve your intuitive skills, then decide.   Until then the jury is out.

PH

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PleiadeanHealer wrote:

My only response to this thread is this.

When you learn to "see" and improve your intuitive skills, then decide.   Until then the jury is out.

PH

Ah, but the jury really isn't out PH, it's already been quite decided as far as you're concerned, because you have also said this:


"When you learn to "see" and improve your intution skills..."   

Do you even realize what you've said here?   You're saying that those of us who don't believe in sylphs OBVIOUSLY can't "see" and need to improve our intution.   And once we learn to see and improve our intuition, then the reality of sylphs as you see them and believe in them will be an automatic given to us.

But....what if somebody CAN "see" and DOES have honed intuition, but don't believe in sylphs?   Hmm, now what?   wink I know, the response would then be to insist that nope, they obviously DON'T have "the sight" or "intuition."  wink  Going in circles.  And so there truly is only one acceptable answer and belief here:  Yours!   

So you can't pretend to be ok with it and tell us "the jury is out" but precede that with a little swipe dig that - assumes - that we still have yet to learn to "see" and "need" to improve our intution.   That's a bit....oh, I don't know.....passive aggressive.  !

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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Right.

We must not believe in outer saviors. STS hierarchies feed off our millenial expectations of a 'coming back' of Christ. He doesn't come back physically, He just can help from the other side, in the etheric realm, where he can give us the power to redeem fallen elementals that are used by ahrimanic/archontic forces. By ourselves, we don't have the power to defeat Archons. Only Christ can. Christ can be found in any real spirtiual striving, of any religious or non-religious orientation. He gives moral intuitions, without infringing freewill. Let's call it being 'Truly Human' to avoid clericalism and inquisitive christianity thinking.

Christ is not going to make everything okay. He can just 'help' us to gather spiritual STO forces, IF ONLY we try hard to do something and fight the archontic influence in ourselves and the world (STO way is non-violent and only strives to transform evil in man, not to eradicate it). It would be totally irrespective to our human freedom to "save us" so quickly and easily. We have to use our freedom of response wisely in the battle against archontic and STS forces in general. No outer force is going to save us if we don't work hard in ennobling ourselves (self-purification and ascension) and the world (alchemical transmutation of the planet).

Gnostics are sometimes described as "not-christians". However, we must not forget that primitive christianity is in fact a huge amount of little sects, each of them fighting to convert pagans and jews to THEIR own version of christianity. Gnostics called themselves true christians, only later heresiologists (and later Church Fathers) called them gnostics to marginalize them and push them in the corner. I studied Nag Hammadi textes at Laval University in Quebec, Canada. That is where they were first studied and translated in English and French. My teachers are among the best interpretors of these texts and gnosticism in general. There is little coherence among all the so-called gnostic texts. Among them we find essenian texts from the Dead Sea Scrolls, manichean texts (widely zoroastrian), philosophical treatise like Plato's, and christian gnostic texts specifically.  Gnostics were still deeply embedded in a pagan luciferian wisdom which helped them understand the cosmic natuer of Christ. They contested His physicality however. They coldn't understand the paradox of the Word (God) made Flesh, because of their greco-roman philosophical and mythological background. Therefore alot of their insights is flawed. That doesn't mean that the profond insights of the gnostics were wrong. Like manicheans, and later cathars/bogomils, they were shamelessly eradicated in order for the Catholic Church ot establish its antichristian Holy Roman Empire. Gnostics avoided the roman catholic hierarchy, but with modern day freemasons, we can say that gnostics have lost their maverick wisdom: masons are now identical to their roman arch-ennemy.

Gnosis is different from 'gnosticism': it is fond in every religion and means (esoteric) knowledge and science (like logos or sophia), as opposed to sheer faith (pistis).

Best,

Druid

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this last message of mine was intended as a response to Tom Paine's message.

Druid

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Sorry, lyra, your argument does not hold any water.  Your passive agressive statement... made me laugh.

I know you love to battle these things out.

But I stand by my state-ment... learn to see properly and things will open up for you.

I've know talented psychics who go through this all the time, people doubt what they see, and in turn it's impossible to convince others.   Slyphs are there, one psychic I knew could see them and communicate with them.   He would not waste anytime on others who doubted him.... he refused to knock himself out.   

Slyphs are devas of the air, you don't have to believe in them for them to be there.   Just like other elementals, they are real, if you disagree with that... then fine.

PH

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PleiadeanHealer wrote:

Sorry, lyra, your argument does not hold any water.  Your passive agressive statement... made me laugh.

I know you love to battle these things out.

I don't "love to battle these things out"...but you posted a response that claimed one thing while clearly saying another.  !  It begged to be pointed out.  You can call that "loving to battle" but, that's your way of sidestepping my point.   The point I was *trying* to make...............which seems to have gone right over your head........is that again, you claimed one thing, (that "the jury is still out") but yet, while clearly saying another (that if we don't believe in sylphs, it's because we haven't learned to "see" yet and have to improve our intuition)........which also happens to be a loaded statement, and which is of even more concern to me.  THAT was the point I was making.  But, you can sidestep that all you like.  ! The last time we had a disagreement it blew up into a fine mess.  I don't intend to go down that road again, so, this will be my last post in this thread.  So yes.............sylphs schmylphs.  Just because you can claim to know a psychic who's seen them doesn't mean diddly squat to me.  I can claim to know a talented psychic who says "You know what, sylphs are bunk."  So seriously, then what?  A stand off. 

It's not a topic that can be "won" and there is no right and wrong.  People either believe it or they don't.  If I were to witness a so-called sylph eating a chemtrail, or, if somebody emerged with a vid that showed this, then cool.  In fact.........I *like* the idea of sylphs if you must know.  The idea that there are these beings in the atmosphere eating chemtrails in order to save the planet works for me.  But at this point I remain skeptical.  But don't feed me and others a loaded statement that "When you learn to "see" and improve your intution skills..." meaning that there really is only one right answer to this subject....your belief.   I mean seriously.  wink  Come on now.


ps

btw........Right as I hit "Reply" after reading your post, I was hit with a strong pressure/muting in my left ear, like a wannabe ear ringing, or something relating to it.  (usually indicates monitoring or psychic energy of some sort from an outside source.)  Weird.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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Lyra,
I too would like to see that video of slyphs, and it would be difficult to make (I know I couldn't do it) and it would probably take some gifted people to make it.    And then there would still be much room for skeptics to pick it apart, which would leave most folks right back where they started.   So much work right down the drain.   

There are no easy answers here.   I understand your point of view, and respect it.

This is exactly what happens with chemtrails and all that's been written about it, plus the videos, books and things.   Many people still can't see them of even try to believe in them.   So what's the point... really?

I would highly recommend people get more involved in the elemental realms in general.   I remember in a book I read where the fairies said something like "if humanity knew how helpful we could be and also how much healing could take place with the help of the elementals, humans would drop what they are doing and rush to be with us and communicate with us".
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On a side note, it's interesting you had that ear ringing.  I wonder what it means?   In the past when we had disagreements, I noted a strange energy around me, it was hard to identify, it was sort of like a whizzing metalic energy, even though that's not exactly what I felt.  It's very hard to describe.   It does make me wonder if it was monitoring, since I think I'm rarely monitored and had never felt this type of energy before.

What part of this topic would require someone to monitor us, or perhaps they just wish to "pump" things us and get us to argue endlessly?   It's an interesting coincidence.... I wonder if this topic is too important for us to really delve into and then in turn it requires TPTB to interfere, or at least distract us.   It does give you something to think about.

PH

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I noticed the other day a buzzing/ringing in my ear that began right when I started a negative or hostile train of thought.  Happened several times if I remember correctly. I'm going to monitor this.

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One possibililty would say there are photos of real Sylphs and photos of clouds that are 'sylph shaped'.
People may mistake clouds to be sylphs and sylphs to be clouds. It is still possible that Sylphs exist.

"The universe is on fire with wonder, beauty, and ecstasy." - From the Undines to Humanity

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You know, if saving the planet is what the elementals want, then why the hell don't they
just KILL US??????  THAT would save the planet faster than anything!

I too like the idea of sylphs but you'll never get a video of them, unless you could
film it in some part of the energy spectrum in which they exist.  Same for other
elementals or fairies for that matter.  We may be getting closer to that what with the
infernal radiations these "humans" are bombarding the atmosphere with.  They apparently
have made the RODS visible, or it could just be that high speed video catches them
and we're able to stop the frames and look at them.