16 Reply by PleiadeanHealer

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Re: Let's hear about the elves!

lilmomma ,
I'm glad to see I could inspire you to look into the book Healing with the fairies and also I fact that you decided to share your experiences.

Getting someone to open up on the board is a good thinig, I hope you share more with us as time goes by.   I get the feeling you have a deep connection with the elemental kingdoms, perhaps this could be a great place for you explore.  You also seem to be running into some other really interesting fairie books, so keep following your intuition, it should be really interesting to see where it leads you


PH

  • Registered: 2005-06-26

Re: Let's hear about the elves!

Just thought I'd pop this in here, on the thread "all about elves" for others' discernment, of course.

http://www.elvenawakening.com/elvenrealm.html

"The most important decision you have to make is whether you live in a hostile or friendly universe."
~ Albert Einstein

The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes, but in having new eyes. ~Marcel Proust

The evolution of humanity is an evolution of the heart. The path is through the heart.
  • Registered: 2005-10-16

Re: Let's hear about the elves!

and some newer stuff from the same source is at:

http://www.elvenway.com/

"The unknown does not incite fear, but dependence on the known does." - J. Krishnamurti

visavis's Website

19 Reply by feritciva (edited by feritciva 2006-08-15 06:34:00)

  • From: istanbul
  • Registered: 2004-05-13

Re: Let's hear about the elves!

Haha, I have to write this.

Last night I fell asleep - not exactly, a kind of in/out sleep phase - in front of TV and wanted to turn it off as the sound disturbs me. By the way I recognize old "not being able to keep the eyes open" pattern! I push the remote controller with difficulty to no avail, the TV is still open. I spend more effort and get up from the couch, go near the TV and turn it off compeletly. The moment I turn my back to TV, I realize it's still on!! Then suddenly I "wake up" in 3D still on the couch and see TV is on - of course!  This time the remote control shuts it off in the first trial.

Then I go back to my in/out sleep phase and feel some presence in the room. I can't see anybody but someone puts a walkman to my hand - that's my old walkman from 80's and another one gives me a cassette. I clearly remember the details of the caseette, an old Sony music casette from 80's! Still I can't see anybody and feel no fear or anything else, I put the casette and push play - no sound. I check the casette if it's finished and reverse it but still no sound. I wonder why it doesn't give sound and I wake up again. It's no surprise for me to see my hand is in the position to hold a walkman - yes there was definitely a walkman in my hand a second ago! I smile to myself, think this was a good effort but possibly my vibration was not enough to hear the communication and go back to full sleep.

And in my dream I enter a presentation in a medicinal congress by a very well known doctor on natural medicine area. After the presentation I go near him and invite him to give a lecture in our company. To my surprise he refuses and I can clearly read his thoughts, in fact he is reflecting them to me very politely and clamly; "yours is a big international company which makes great profit from natural medicine. I would not like to hang with this type of energy. I prefer nature itself, not conversion to commerce". I feel a lot disappointed on this comment - because sometimes I feel the very same thing too. That's the main reason I had problems in my work place recently.

After waking up, I ask to my HS/subconsciouss, "did you have to use my favourite naturopath doctor to give me this message?" lol

Seems there will be some changes here, but still I don't know what will my next step be...

Change we must, to live again
- Jon Anderson
  • From: somewhere over the rainbow
  • Registered: 2006-07-24

Re: Let's hear about the elves!

Oh my!  You are all so encouraging!  Each and every One of you.

You bet I'm going to keep at it.  Thwart me once, shame on you, thwart me twice...well you get the idea.  Those links are going to be a great help, I'm sure of it.  (visavis, the beginning of yours is EXACTLY what I was talking about with the hi-hum from the TV.  FINALLY!!!  Someone gets it after all these years!!)  There's so much happening in my life right now all of a sudden...good, GOOD things!!  Too much for today but I'll be back to share them with you soon. 

feritciva.  You're in Istanbul?  Really?  It pleases me very much to hear from Turkey.  Thank you for sharing your story here.  Isn't it awful the way They use the people who matter most against us?  Well, not anymore.  That's where I draw the line.   You take care of yourSelf over there, okay.

Bye for now!

Fare Thee Well

http://www.westegg.com/einstein/
  • Registered: 2005-11-02

Re: Let's hear about the elves!

Lapis,

You shouldn't believe what other beings tell you. I've also met these blue ones a few times. At first I though that they must be very high creatures because in Indian mythology blue bodies are for enlightened. They also tried to present themselves like that. But after some time I saw that they actually are my jailers and enemies. All these words about mass human elevation, loving vibrations and other nice stuff are BS and distraction from the terrible reality and stop us from the "hard" work in the moments of our daily life.

I think these and others are the guys that run the world religions and make their best to misrepresent the divine voice in everyone of us. Because no-one can stop this inner voice, the only way to keep humans in this pitiful position is to distort it here and there.

Imho, except those who are one with divinity there aren't any beings really favorable to us humans. But them we can see only when we ourselves join with our God (on first levels of course) because there are no senses for godhead and he can be perceived only by himself. So again if anyone see and talk to Jesus, Krishna, etc. he is probably seeing some of the tormentors of the humanity disguised.

  • Registered: 2006-08-05

Re: Let's hear about the elves!

Elementals are nature's invisible etheric-soul beings - they have no spirit. there are elementals for each element (earth, water, air, fire), for each ether (life-ether, chemical-ether, light-ether and warmth-ether), for each part of the day (morning-noon-Pm- twilight, night, etc.), for each lunary month, for each season, for each cosmic cycle, for the sun cycle, etc. They become fallen because we do not spiritualize our perception. They are deeply linked to us, to our soul. Some of them a generated artificially by thoughts, they are thought-forms. They are mibued with the degree of morality we give into our speeches, acts and thoughts. These are the humans of tomorrow, of the New Jerusalem I a far future. some of these are parasitic beings that manipulate important people in corporations and politics - in power locus. 
http://www.bibleandanthroposophy.com/Sm … s/i12.html
http://www.soul-guidance.com/houseofthesun/devas.htm
http://meta-religion.com/Esoterism/Theo … entals.htm
http://en.mimi.hu/esoteric/elementals.html

about fallen elementals and their link with Subnature (mechanical fallen ethers) and ufos.
http://www.bruisvat.nl/english/ufo2.htm
http://www.bruisvat.nl/english/ufo1.htm

I recommend Nature Spirits, a collection of lectures by Rudllf Steiner. It is the best reference I found on elementals.

Best,

Druid

  • Registered: 2005-06-26

Re: Let's hear about the elves!

When I see a statement like this, I must admit, I am perplexed:

druid wrote:

Elementals are nature's invisible etheric-soul beings - they have no spirit.

Elementals are spirit. Nature is spirit. So... what is meant by the above statement?

Just curious about the valued meaning you are attempting to convey by that statement, is all (not other writers', but your own understanding of the statement) . It may be that I have a different vernacular that I work from.

Thanks,
Sowelu

"The most important decision you have to make is whether you live in a hostile or friendly universe."
~ Albert Einstein

The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes, but in having new eyes. ~Marcel Proust

The evolution of humanity is an evolution of the heart. The path is through the heart.
  • Registered: 2006-08-05

Re: Let's hear about the elves!

It is admited in almost all occult traditions:

nature spirits (elementals) do not have an ego like man has. The ego is spiritual in itself. This is corroborated by Blavatsky. If one thinks he can see bette than Steiner and Blavatsky, well I expect you to have solid grounds upon which you can found this assertion.

Nature 'spirits' are in fact soul-etheric complexes which enliven nature. they have a limited capacity of freewill, but it is used by higher hierarchies or by man himself when he learns how to do it. Beware of magical practices and the old times religion: today these are wrong ways to connect ourselves with elementals.

they oscillate between loe and hate, antipathy and sympathy, that is they are confined to astral feelings, they cannot control their feelings because they have not ego, no "I'.

likewise, animals have a group soul, theuir ego is not located in each individuals but on the astral plane. On the astral plane, each member of the same specie share the same ego or 'I'.

Fire beings have a special connexion to the ego, though. the ego of humans links with the bodu through the warmth in the blood, or we may say the 'fire' of the blood. therefore, fire 'spirits' have somewhat an ego like man. Some fire spirits are ex-men, parts of human beings which splitted at death and gained a srot of independance. they are most of the time dangerous bcause they are packed with chaotic passions.

Coming back to elementals (nature 'spirits'), they cannot be held responsible fotr the tricks they play upon us because they have no moral sense. One cannot say a lion is bad because it devous its prey, it is 'nature'.  Likewise, elementals have no 'I', therefore no moral responsibility. they like to play tricks upon us. Tosay they have not I does'nt mean they have no wisdom: they incarnate nature's wisdom. That doesn't chane the fact that
1) they have no ego (or 'I') and only a limited amount of freewill, but that is used by higher spiritual hiereachies or man himself (magicians and occultists).
2) they have no moral responsibility
3)they are linked with our sols because they link to our ego (or higher hierarchies)

Bcause the angels are gone now, most elementals aer confused and seek recognition of man.Therefore, they generate cataclysmic events, in order to demonstrate to man  that he is destroying nature and hurtin nature's invisible beings.

Devas are of a different order. they are Earth angels. they are above elementals, but much more linked with the being of the earth itself. Devas are of feminine apprearance, whereas angels of the outer cosmos look more masculine. Devas guide elementals. Both devas and elementals can be fallen, and therefore annoying for us humans. All elemantals are not friendly, I warn you. But it is important to spiritualize our perceptions in order to take the elemntal back into the ascending current of their evolution, and if possible, redeem those who are fallen. But most of us are still incapable of this... yet.


One must not confuse soul and spirit.

Yes great spirits work in matter, but these are not elementals. Elementals are the workers of nature, architects and thinkers of nature are higher angelic hierarchies.

Byebye

Druid

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  • Registered: 2006-07-24

Re: Let's hear about the elves!

before i go i just wanted to say for the record that the picture halfway down the page on Sowelu's link IS what I dreamed.   and if anyone's wondering, I got the book back.  they were just being foolish.  no harm, no foul.

Fare Thee Well

http://www.westegg.com/einstein/
  • Registered: 2005-06-26

Re: Let's hear about the elves!

Druid wrote:

One must not confuse soul and spirit.

Indeed. This is, in fact, why I asked. And in my own understanding, your view is almost completely upside-down or reversed from mine. But at least that's clear for me now. Thanks!

Interesting.
~Sowelu

"The most important decision you have to make is whether you live in a hostile or friendly universe."
~ Albert Einstein

The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes, but in having new eyes. ~Marcel Proust

The evolution of humanity is an evolution of the heart. The path is through the heart.

27 Reply by Ganel (edited by Ganel 2006-08-21 09:27:53)

  • Registered: 2006-08-19

Re: Let's hear about the elves!

Something so beautiful when interdimensional healing occurs. In this realm, people usually need credentials or ID but we are so trusting of whoever poses as a fairey.

No need to worry, Paranoia I  do not have, I do play with the winds, I get answers from fire, and water treats me with great respect. But who really are these humanoids ?


I wonder, because there is nothing printed about the life styles of the various ET groups other than their human interest, i remain in limbo over the belief of them with all the deception they do. I do have scars from creatures who visit me hourly, but whom

I wonder if it were possible, if any here with elven experiences, have any knowledge regarding what they do, day to day ?

If humanity has a chance to rethink it's plan of living with the earth, we may need guidlines. To learn from others who have achieved harmony would be like the return to the purity of democracy on earth. Am i making sense here /

What do elves do for a living /

Do they chop down live trees to build their homes or use dead trees ?
Do they use technology ?
For what ?
Do they have predatory animals in their realm ?
What do they look like ?
what happens after death ?
What are the core community activities and how large are their communities ?
What are the 3 most popular forms of entertainment ?
Does anyone war with them ?
What do they see in their sky ?
Who are their allies ?
etc etc etc.
Do you get what i mean by these random questions ?

Really, I assume my tone may be a little irritating to a few readers. If I could explain. I am attacked hourly with physical torture by greedy semivisible creatures.
Tis is a 15 year conscious battle to prevent them using my body as a food source. even when I do, they are still happy at using people's minds as weapons against me by merging realms or writing realities over mine. Long story...

. I might as well call them elves for all that Ido not know about elves. i am supposed to have an elven link but they either hide or are pretty nasty. By gaining a more realistic, bigger picture of otherkin life could help me realize what is, and what is not.

Thats why I ask. conscious interdimensional encounters are all nice and fun, but how do we know who is really who, whether or not they help us innitially ?
No need to worry, Paranoia I  do not have, I do play with the winds, I get answers from fire, and water treats me with great respect.

RED
BLUE
GREEN

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  • Registered: 2006-08-19

Re: Let's hear about the elves!

Days later, reading back on my post, perhaps i scared with my attitude. Nothing intended. i am desperate to be clear in my mind one thing. Whether or not this reality is ral or not. The otherkin have existences, they speak to us of them. In fact not me, though i am always with temperal spirits information is denied me. So i am desperate to learn, my internal body is twisted, conscious obe is impossible for now. i really want to know what other places are and what other creatures do for life, because of all the accounts i have learned from here and beyond. nothing ever seems complete. Holograms are a way to always question the value of shapeshifting as a true reality. Until shapeshifting is a personal reality, even then, who knows.

The images of these fourth dimensionals are suspect to me. just as the nature of reality. i can feel too much that i am being duped. This feeling is way old. The matrix films were onl an acknowledgement. Can you imagine telling others about these feelings ? his is my first, so i am very insecure. Nobody wants to be told how unreal life is. I just want to know, if anybody has ever experienced teachings or writings, expressing normal life offworld or out of dimension. So that reality can be claimed once more to me. because i today do not believe, that there is anything outside of this earth, that the other dimensions exist in full, or that life for all is birth growth and death. Too many video games perhaps. but never have i read a description of what an other world existence is like in any detail.
With them lizzies controlling the minds of the bible prophets, and those of today, who knows what really is, and what isn't, when all psychics on earth today, are being watched and perhaps tampered with ? How real is real with these elves ?

RED
BLUE
GREEN

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  • Registered: 2006-05-03

Re: Let's hear about the elves!

Ganel, it's not that your post is scary, but more that unless someone is experiencing the things you are, we can't relate as well.  I've found an individual's web site that describes exactly the kinds of attacks you experience, and you may find something valuable here.  She has a forum you can participate in as well.  Here is the link:

http://groups.msn.com/ArizonaGodsSauna/_whatsnew.msnw

Hopefully you can find a kindred spirit in Sue, and hopefully your attacks will stop soon.

  • From: somewhere over the rainbow
  • Registered: 2006-07-24

Re: Let's hear about the elves!

Ganel.  I just saw your posts.  I don't know how I missed them, but I did.  I "hear" you, okay?  Loud and Clear.  I think we may even be in the same boat. 

you don't know if you can trust me and i don't know if i can trust you but i have managed to clear a few days ahead (starting tomorrow) to contemplate these very things.  i will say this much.  whenever i "get close" to them, whomsoever or whatsoever they may be, there is no denying the fierce longing i have to "make a break through".  the emotional intensity is just too much. 

maybe this will "translate" for you?  do you know Sweetums from The Muppet Show?  he's this big hairy "giant" monster who's supposed to be all menacing and grouchy, yet he's always been my favourite muppet.  more than Grover or Fozzie or Animal or even Kermit himself.  more than Beeker or Statler & Waldorf or Ralph or any of them.  i can't explain it, but i get all choked up if i so much as think about meeting him "in real life".  it's like i'm five years old all over again and i just wanna crawl up into his massive lap and nuzzle his furry neck and feel all safe and warm and have not a care in the wide world.  maybe that's wrong, i dunno.  and then i get mad cuz i feel like he's been stolen from me (or i've been stolen from him?) and now that i finally remember all that they're STILL going to try and bar me from seeing him again?  excuse me?? 

i don't know if you understood that or not, but i am gonna try and figure this out, one way or the other, hell or highwater.

yes, Magic Is.

Fare Thee Well

http://www.westegg.com/einstein/