Topic: What would you do with the power?

"If you could find out all the answers, and give it to the masses, would you do it?" - The Flaming Lips.
I was inspired to write this from a discussion me and a few other NRers had on the IRC channel. The basic question is "What would you do if you could astral project (aka project your consiousness out of your body, to perceive things beyond your normal senses)?". There's alot of material available at most book stores on how to do it, but what if you discovered a book, hidden behind a stack of others, that taught you how to do it in one day, but for one day only?
What would you want to do? What would I do?
I would probably use it to explore various places throughout the galaxy, seeing how other cultures lived and organized themselves, whether or not they knew of Earth, and if so, the extent of their involvement. The philosophy behind their involvement would interest me. I guess you could call me a psychic space anthropologist wink
Would they see hope within the human race, or just another inferior species to dominate? Would they see us as being potential leaders, or as beings in need of a leash? How has their culture influenced their belief system, or vice-versa?
So please, just imagine. What would YOU do? As a noble purple dinosaur once said, "Sharing is caring". (Thanks for reminding me Poffo!)

"Don't eat any wooden nickels."

2 (edited by Xenopope 2006-08-09 21:41:47)

Re: What would you do with the power?

Magical_Mongoose wrote:

The basic question is "What would you do if you could astral project (aka project your consiousness out of your body, to perceive things beyond your normal senses)?".

smile Assuming each individual does have the ability to project their conciousness, the question would become - Now that you know you have the ability to astrally project your conciousness and percieve things beyond 'normal senses', what will you do with that ability?

Magical_Mongoose wrote:

I would probably use it to explore various places throughout the galaxy, seeing how other cultures lived and organized themselves

Furthermore, assuming that you yourself _have_ projected your conciousness here - that this is indeed how you arrived here for that very purpose of 'exploration' (and thereby empowerment through knowledge), then what would you do with that knowledge? The answer would be that you would BE AWARE. Of your real self and of your 'purpose'.

Magical_Mongoose wrote:

What would you want to do?

The generic answer being that one would make an honest attempt to alter their reality (or 'change the world') into something more in alignment with what they would percieve to be its proper state. This of course could include a literal cornucopia of alterations on the realm.

Would one be responsible enough to use their power at all?

Magical_Mongoose wrote:

So please, just imagine. What would YOU do?

Well I would of course have my list - the top of it including ending sex/slave trade of people. (puting an end to the forced trade of sex through forms of slavery) Then there would be ending kidnappings, ending child abuse, etc. . . .

But here comes the loop, because by doing any of these things I presumably wouldn't actually know that I wouldn't be adversly effecting other things which lie outside my scope of understanding. How would I know that I wouldn't be altering something on another level - a level to which I am presently oblivious - thereby altering things that I have 'no business' changing?

. . . when you view from this angle it becomes quite the conundrum.

I am as is Void.

3 (edited by CEdicon 2006-08-10 04:56:46)

Re: What would you do with the power?

Xeno, I don't think you could put an end to the sex trade, or change the world, through astral projection. The nature of AP is passive... sending out a probe to discover the etheric realms outside of yourself. No one without some serious skill could physically manipulate their surroundings through their astral double body. Indeed everyone can astrally project, but it takes practice and a natural ability certainly helps.

In IRC, I stated that I would run recon missions and report back to NR. smile It's a fun question, because AP to the average person is way out there... it's a difficult method for gathering data on the unseen and unknown - more active and physically taxing than sitting at a Ouiji board or dangling a pendulum over a chart!

FYI, the three books that got us started on the topic in IRC last night were Robert Monroe's Far Journeys, Ultimate Journey, and Robert Bruce's Astral Dynamics

Q: (L) Whatchu know about that?
A: We know all about that.

Re: What would you do with the power?

CEdicon wrote:

Xeno, I don't think you could put an end to the sex trade, or change the world, through astral projection.

Ahh yea I umm, ok hmm. First I would say yes, one could actually do that - put an end to the sex trade, or change the world, through astral projection. Even though that's not even what I meant initially. (So I guess I cheated in answering the question because what I meant was to give myself unlimited power to change the world which was not exactly the question.)

CEdicon wrote:

No one without some serious skill could physically manipulate their surroundings through their astral double body.

Before I read your next paragraph about recon missions I was going to reply that one would not need to physically manipulate anything but only to gather information. Because projecting gives you access to information that would not otherwise be available. So what I was going to propose would be exactly what you've written:

CEdicon wrote:

run recon missions and report back [. . .] method for gathering data on the unseen and unknown

This alone could possibly grant you more power to change your world than physical manipulation might - as they say it is all about informaion, lack thereof or control thereof.

I am as is Void.

Re: What would you do with the power?

I had to back-up a bit to where you were taking MM's question... so, now I understand what you were saying.

With the specific knowledge attained through AP, you would work to stop the sex trade, child abuse, etc.

Right?

Q: (L) Whatchu know about that?
A: We know all about that.

Re: What would you do with the power?

I don't even have to think about it.  If I could astral travel I'd go back to "the fall" and see what the f*ck happened to us.  If we knew those details, it would simplify so much.

There's no knowledge, no skills, no magic wand to stop the world's ills.  We can't change anything others do, but we can change ourselves.  When we change ourselves, the whole world transforms.  The way to heal others is to heal ourselves, and the way out is to go within.

Re: What would you do with the power?

CEdicon, you already explored the the Giza pyramids and Baalbek ?
http://www.sacredsites.com/middle_east/ … aalbek.htm

Bye, Pictus

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Re: What would you do with the power?

Pictus,

Not yet. I'll make that my first recon mission! big_smile

BTW, thanks for the link... pretty pictures!

Q: (L) Whatchu know about that?
A: We know all about that.

Re: What would you do with the power?

Hehehe
Thanks!
BTW, probably there are lots of undergrounds hidden places to search smile

Bye, Pictus

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Re: What would you do with the power?

Aren't you worried about being detected? Apparently they have these devices in place. Some even say they can trap the essence of the astral-traveller...perhaps sending back a "walk-in" to take your place for intelligence gathering. I would be extremely careful before scouting out such places, but then again, the threat to yourself could be overblown...nothing more than propaganda. I guess you'd find out.

"Don't eat any wooden nickels."

Re: What would you do with the power?

Ah fooey. The only devices 'they' have in place that regularly keep me caged are frequency control - broadcast technology in general. That is all people should try and avoid, especially when awake and passive to suggestions and triggers.

There is no worry in my mind of having some "walk-in" experience if I am using a copy of my etheric body for astral projection. The master copy belongs to me, myself, and I, and they can't do a thing about it - although 'they' might try, those jerks.

Q: (L) Whatchu know about that?
A: We know all about that.

Re: What would you do with the power?

lol

Only a fool covets power without first appreciating it's delicate uses and inherent pitfalls...  smile