I am totally fed up.... (Page 3 of 4)

One statistic which i found shocking is the sheer percentage of Americans under correctional supervision.

http://www.strike-the-root.com/51/wasdin/wasdin1.html
I think we can all spot corporate fascism at play here, its spreading to the UK, private companies are being given Gov contracts to fingerprint school children for attendance and school library use who are linked to the military industrial complex if you see who the parent companies are and i am sure if private companies took over our jails in force we would see the same trend eventualy.

lyra, exponentiality has no "set" curve, but I would guess after 8 years the number could be between 20 and 40 million. 10% or more of the total population, or far higher.

Barefoot Doc, corps. like Hallibuton/ Kellogg, Brown & Root have permeated into almost every aspect of western life, to the point where they are talking about having U.S. Army 'sponsored' theme (amusement)
parks!

They now have such a grip on institutions from public ed. to the prison system that some unfortunate souls are "graduating" from one cage directlt to another. Thay also have the contracts to build detainment/internment/concentration/FEMA death camps here in large numbers. It is being done as we speak.

Thank the Rockefellers for most of the ludicrous drug laws. The "new prohibition" is almost entirely their design.

It's getting to the point now where the kids know it will either be being forced into the military, or put in prison, because it seems breathing will be next on the list of things they want t outlaw.

How do we fill up these spiffy new prisons?

Make EVERYTHING illegal.

Wow, am I the only one who was sent out in the hall almost every day, and to the principal's office about three times a week?  I never was really good at following rules (especially ones that didn't make sense to me), and I really liked convincing other people to break them too, so teachers either loved me or hated me, or sometimes both I guess.

Marcus, as far as your description of American birthing practices goes, it is pretty outdated from my experience.  While most American birthing procedures leave much to be desired, I think those massive nurseries are basically a thing of the past.  Almost all hostpitals here leave the baby in the room with the mother following the birth, and if the mother is breastfeeding, they will put the baby directly on the mother's breast first thing.  For instance, when my daughter was born (and my friends with children confirm that this is normal now), the only time they took her away from us was the next day, for about 30 seconds to measure her (I would have gone with them, but I  was pretty tired by then).  They recommended for us to stay 48 hours, but nobody tried to stop us when we left the next morning instead (maybe 20 hours, and only because my wife was worn out).  The only thing they forced on us was the hospital birth, since we are on state medical and they won't pay for home births (and a birth is not something I'm gonna DIY if I don't have to).
The doctors and all the nurses at the county medical center were very supportive and strongly recommended breast-feeding too, and this is the norm now.  So, while the medical profession in general is pretty rotten, at least in this aspect they have improved dramatically in the last few decades.

The one thing that does annoy me with the county office though is the insane pressure to vaccinate.  Every time we go there they keep insisting on this or that toxic shot.  "Oh, they won't let her into the kindergarten program without a chickenpox vaccine."

WTF do we need a chicken pox vaccine for?  I remember my time with chickenpox as great fun because my good friend across the street had it too, and we spent a week staying home from school playing in the mud instead.  What's even scarier is that the vaccine isn't even effective for all that long, so all it really does is prevent you from getting chickenpox early in life when it is not dangerous (the later in life you get it, the more harmful it is).  What I really need to do is get enough like minded people to form a community school before the little one needs to go (4 more years).

I think a lot of times when people say "in the U.S" they really mean, "in my state" and don't realize it.  I really doubt this is a federal law, cause all that stuff is handled by the state (the feds can't revoke a state ID).  For another thing, I went to the hospital for an MRI once because I blacked out lifting.  No mention of driving priveleges, but they did force me to ride an ambulance from one hospital to the other with the MRI, even though I had ridden my bike there, over 8 miles (I didn't really care because I was still on my dad's insurance at the time, and the super hot nurse rode in the ambulance with me, they even strapped me to a gurney).

These people hunt me down, appear frow nowhere, I don't find them. See I play for a local football team (round ball) and it so happens that I get a car ride to the pitch everyweek with 3 others and there are idiots. It's a 15 minute journey and this week I was grillied exactly as Empirical was with all this 'are you ok? why are you so quiet? are you man?' shit.

Well said, Barefoot Doc!

You don't necessarily have to abandon your teammates, Mahatma, especially if it pains you so much.  It can be frustrating, yes.  Withdraw when you need to and find a way to release those frustrations in a positive way.  You'll never be able to block out all the negatives in your life.  In hindsight, I've come to realize that some of my worst enemies were in all actuality also my greatest allies.  It kills me to say it, but it's true.

I wish I had time to comment on the rest of these subtopics.  Suffice it to say this is Powerful stuff.

Wow.

Warning, probable gross generalisations ahead.

In my experience, living way out in the bush here in Australia, I have found the older people here (60+) to be much more resilient, down-to-earth and yes, real.  They have a general mistrust of authority and in particular bureaucracy, although most are natural 'conservative' voters so there are some fundamental disconnects when one probes deeper.  For example, they'll trust the government 'to do the right thing' on the fear based issues of which they have (or wish to have) little understanding: terrorism, border control etc., yet distrust them intensely on the issues that impact their own lives (eg. all the pointless rules and regulations that go with farming in particular, visiting doctors and other 'professionals'). 

The third party in Australian politics has always been linked to the refrain that they're there "to keep the bastards honest" so it is true to say many country Australians, at least, have a total mistrust of the government, whomever is in power.  We get fined if we don't vote so you can see the contempt for which (or is it apathy) most Australians have for the political process. 

With regard to automatic responses, I do not see such in this age group.  They are considered and sometimes strident in their responses and views.  They want to hear how you are, not just uttering a few words for the sake of it.  Many are/were farmers whose livelihood and indeed lives sometimes have dependend upon their ability to think for themselves and be relatively independent of the rest of the world.  When they retire, most are still very active and involved in the community, and on the whole, very caring and in remarkably good health - better health certainly than I see in many of their 40 - 60 year old 'children' and sadly then their children.

It has interested for a long while why this might be so, and I appreciate I might only be interacting with the healthy septugenarians +, yet go down a generation and the chronic health issues are much worse, issues that have the ability to kill people off before they get to sixty, let alone a robust eighty-five.

I have come to believe it is a mix of the nutrient-dense food and self-responsiblity that was instilled into this earlier generation at an earlier age.  They might not have had all the food they wanted, nor even the affection, but many had high-quality, nutrient dense food and this, and their generally resilient upbringing, with a lot of self-responsibility instilled into it, appears to have served them well.  Their lives also had meaning from dawn to dusk, and even those that have retired remain vibrant parts of the community.  In fact, sometimes I am astonished at their energy.

Having lived on the coast for several years, with a lot of retirees, previous to this, the comparison could not have been more stark.  Many there were somewhere between say obesity and death, with mowing the lawn to within an inch of its life on a regular basis, having the house spotless, or watching the neighbours, their only distractions from eating, sleeping and drinking.  Programmed responses were the norm, supermarket food trolleys were laden with crap to eat and there seemed to be no meaning with which to live from one day to another, merely existence.

Of course, there are country people like this and town people who show resilience and yes, life! but these were the impressions overall that I gained.  The coast life provided ample opportunity for easy walking, paddling and enjoyment of the free joys - sea air, fantastic views, sunshine, wildlife but compared to 'going down the club' or sitting at home in front of the telly, or shopping, nature did not seem to rate highly.  The more meaning was lost, for this was all I could put it down to in the end, the more 'programmed' and 'automatic' people seemed to become. Not to mention firmly xenophobic.

I talk about the protective effects of nutrient-dense food because I have experience of the effects of nutrient imbalance, minerals specifically, on people's health; mental, physical and emotional.  It's not the whole enchilada, it can't be, but it does bring up some interesting (well, to me anyway) points.  We are all aware of the 'attention deficit child' but the opposite is very apparent in the older age groups where often clogged bowel - due to poor digestion and food choices, equals clogged brain.  If the brain doesn't have the nutrients it needs, as with the rest of the body, the light begins to go out.  Far be it from me to suggest that we are merely biochemical beings, of course not, I am purely talking 'physical' effects here of nutrient-deprived food since most humans still need to eat.

In this state, one doesn't then have to be abducted or replaced to become a shell of one's former self.  The eyes are dull and the lights are out, all by one's own hand. And it is an insidious pit to climb out of because the amotivation caused by chemical imbalance makes choosing life-affirming foods (presuming they are grown in nutrient-dense soils which is so rarely the case) even harder because, frankly, one can't think straight, even if one has the understanding to do so.  Couple that with a heavy dependence on social alcohol and there go a few million more brain cells a week.

So this I see a lot in the elderly who live without meaning, but not so much in those who have meaning which appears to drive them to care more what they're eating, drinking, how they're living (the quality or lack thereof).  Does the lack of meaning lead to poor choices, or does the poor sustenance lead to lack of meaning?

Certainly the older country folk have their own veggie gardens, this is not so prevalent in their sons and daughters.  And whilst they might have and still use chemicals on their farm (some of which are mandated by law), they don't on their veggies.  As I said, disconnects abound.

The 40 - 60s age group are also very interesting.  They didn't have the 'nutritional start' that their parents had, and are falling apart faster - chronic problems are rife.  The medication levels that I see are staggering, the drug interactions by themselves hideous and 'intervention' is happening earlier and earlier.  These people are sprinting now to try and keep up, not just running.  As them why and they're not really sure. Ever more, ever quicker, ever faster and of course on a biological level, there is only so long one can hammer one's adrenals before 'burn out' occurs. But that happens to someone else doesn't it?  Since the endocrine system works on a 'one out, all out' basis, the thyroid is rarely far behind and this hampers recovery because the 'fire in the hearth' is burning very low as the thyroid slows down.

When the body loses energy, it is not difficult to see that the repair functions start to fail.  Conversely, what I see when the energy is raised is that the body starts to heal what it needs to heal and all manner of problems frankly just 'go away'. 

My point here, yes, there is one (!) is that low functioning adrenals or thyroids also have an effect on brain function and tend to make people run on automatic pilot.  They haven't got the energy to respond sincerely, even if they could remember how to.  They're in permanent, exhausted, 'fight-or-flight' and that's not a good place for strategic thinking, sincerity in communication or relationships, because their mind's just not there, it's off, planning the next thing to be done or wanting to just switch off and sleep. 

There may well be people being replaced on a large scale, I don't know, but a lot who are living, breathing humans are 'counting themselves out' because of the way they run their lives, hammer their bodies etc.. and once we're 'in', it's tough to get 'out' again, at least just looking at the biochemistry.  We're the perfect take-over planet from this perspective, too damn knackered to resist.

Yet, even under this nutrient deficit, chemical kosh, (merely one way of mind control if you like) I see more and more people unleashing themselves, saying 'I'm not doing this any more, it's killing me' and their changes inspire others and so it goes on.

I have enjoyed this forum for a few years, thanks to all who have supported me on my journey with their contributions.

Kindest regards.

Sheila.

"I swear if I could only work a few things out in myself I'd burn these fuckers ideologies to the ground. I'd make a lot of enemies but I can live with that if that's the price I have to pay for exposing stupidity."

This attitude might have a lot to do with why you are attracting so many wankers in your life.  The need to always be right (and especially to prove it to others) is a hallmark of egoic consciousness.  When say you are attracting this experience to yourself, it is not to say that some action or behavior in the physical realm is what is doing this, rather the natural attraction of similar mental patterns.  What you aren't realizing is that the very things that you despise in these other people are dominating your mental life, albeit on a subconscious level.