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Topic: Higher Forces STO

Here's one of the most recent transcripts from a channelled session with what has come to be known as the Higher Forces.  They are, to the best of my knowledge, 4th Density STO, in communication/cooperation with a 6th Density Council which might be called a council of oversight.  The Forces and the Council could be connected in nature to what the Cassiopaean's, in their session transcript, explained as part of a "two-cycle exchanger mission", the "Zindar Council", the "overseer zones", and a few others I don't recall.

Given some of the recent posts on NR (specifically about how Israelis are systematically being brought together for 'some' reason), I thought a bit of this quote might be interesting to read.  The implied caveat with this material is, use your discernment, move along if it doesn't strike you, ask questions if it does.

Greetings to all here present now. We are in the area and see many different elements happening. There are those things that are quite bizarre and unexplainable. It was a sad event in the country of Spain to see the attack on their train system. But the Spaniards are very cultured and spirited people. This will never set them down, in fact above all it stirs them up. It’s kind of a misjudgment on the terrorist part to attack Spain. For this in itself will make Spain great – in it’s own zeal – that has been dogmented for many years will now become alive and become so emotionally fired that it will unify Spain like it has never been unified before. One of the miscalculations that the terrorists has accomplished. We also find that it has activated Italy to become strong within themselves. And it has scared France from the stand that it has taken – for they know they will be attacked for their laws and regulations against Muslim dress of a woman with the coverings. We find France is very great in it’s intellectual and spiritual occultism has made kind of sad vopa’s in it’s own development in it’s inner strength. Hopefully they will begin to turn around and face what Joan of Arc has shown then – who and what they are. They don’t have tremendous strength in the action part. They have tremendous love and compassion, but they need to motivate their zeal and inner strength to commitment to what is their secrets of uncover. Like Nostradamous – who’s the Son of France – and Joan of Arc who’s the leader of a new revolution, that of the spirit to stand up and do what is right and not to be subservient and submissive to a concurring force. France, unfortunately, has lying always had that power of giving in – when they could be the strongest country in Europe. We now turn to England and find that in their strength of keeping their spirit alive there must be still more responsibilities and more understanding of the world around them. Yet they have the key to democracy that no other country has. Again, it is in their hands that they can lead that, what would be considered, the lying of Judah. Then we come to America. And of course, it is the Son’s of Joseph. But, yes it is a troubled time – and Israel is on the attack. Of course Joseph is flaring up in it’s self. But so are the son’s of Judah and of Israel, in it’s own dilemma. But we always say that when Israel is under attack, great strength comes from a small country. It is unfortunate that they’re going to be testing in the next three years in the most unbelievable experiences of disease through germ warfare, of missile attacks… And do not underestimate Libya. In the front door comes the Americans, and in the back door they sell their bomb warfare to the Iraqis, the Iranians, all the terrorism’s of Bin Laden as they call it. So, it is an interesting folly. We also find that the bombing of Israel that will happen in 2006 of atomic nature. It will create a great strive. But then Israel will unleash one of it’s most secret weapons that they have that will astonish the whole world. In fact Israel will take over many of the skirmishes and fights dealing with the terrorism and fighting them and uprooting them as we speak. The Palestinian movements have created tremendous damage of sending people out with bombs strapped to children’s bodies and them going to war. It would be interesting… There has to be peace among both of these brothers and a peace has to be a lasting one side by side. But if they continue, the Palestinians, to speak on one side and then on the other, great conflicts will ensue. Also the United Nations should be involved in bringing some sort of stability in an area that is so unstable. Nonetheless, Israel is fighting for it’s own survival; and we have to support this in their own behavior. They have been victims in many different countries and situations and here again they a victim in their own land. Remember, it is not the end of all, but when we do get involved, when we do involve ourselves, and make that commitment of involvement, [phone begins to ring] we have taken on things – the whole dynamics of the Far East. So tonight we say this – that we have made our commitment to be involved in changing and altering… We have reached, as they say in that message, a point of intolerance. We have been for so many years… [phone message is given by caller] Many different views have passed. And then we understand… Yes the number helps to call back. Well, now that we have heard that message, we must understand the fact that we are involved and will become involved. But for so many years we have totally not been involved or committed in making ourselves involved. Again, we are not 100% involved – because of what and who we are – that we cannot become totally involved. Let us say we will alter a few things that will allow people to be in the right places and the right times. This is the best we can do to help the effect of bringing peace to the area. Not only to the Palestinians, but also to the Israelis. It is an unforgivable crime that so much bloodshed has to be ensued for peace. But maybe will so much skirmishes going on both sides and all countries must look on themselves to look at the things that they are committing themselves to make errors through greed, malice, judgment, and harshness. We all are responsible, but we all must make a stand that we become servants of the most high and not slaughtered of the most lowly. We would also make an alert – as this country does – yellow alerts and brown alerts and blue alerts. But the alert is to New York City again. That they will be under attack 2004, starting from that of the beginning of June to that of the end of October. In such a way we would make an alert and alarm system, but this time 4 missiles will be sent to New York City, atomic in nature, that will land 2 in the city area. Unfortunately, we are again altering the items to prevent such an attack but at least it is now time for the city of New York to realize that they are not safe and that attack is still eminent. We also would say that those people living in the city area should think very strongly about moving out if they are to survive any sort of disease or mutilation or chemical alterations. We can try to prevent this – and through the entity it will be prevented – and we wish this to be prevented. But we are only saying what is eminent in the minds of Bin Laden and his next attack, also his last attack, of a great nature before he is caught. We are now ready for your questions.

(From Session 660 of the Higher Forces Sessions)

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Also, in an unrelated note and in an attempt to give some background on a source of information that has been held unreleased for 3 decades, here's an older quote from a Session.  This one goes a long way in summing up some of the messages received over the years.

Q: Are you then the Empire?

Forces: If we were the Empire, then you are empty. Empire did not talk to the ones that were being threatened. You were the threaten-ers.

Q: Are we not belonging to the name…don’t we have a part in the name, and is it not from the Empire?

Forces: Of (NAME)?

Q: Yes.

Forces: (NAME) was the son of the royal family of the empire. So of course you have a part of the empire. We are the Higher Forces that you have named us.

Q: Yes.

Forces: We are not part of the Empire. Guess again. We know the dude.

Q: Was he from the Dogs?

Q: You once…talked about something about the principalities.

Forces: Why do you think Moses was not allowed to see God?

Q: I thought because he transgressed by striking the stone twice.

Forces: No, no, no, no. Why was Moses not allowed to see the face of God on Mount Sinai?

Q: Because he’ll be burned down.

Q: He would have seen an alien.

Q: Same reason we…that he was…same reason as we feel about the aliens. We’re a threat to them.

Forces: What would you do if you saw us in our total nature?

Q: I once asked that question whether we would be terrified of you, and you said: "It is possible." But I don’t know what that answer means.

Forces: Then we shall reveal ourselves to you and you will see. (Long pause) What we are saying is: now, look within. The feel that you felt is the revelation of the same. To manifest what we are, we…but, for Moses to see what they were would frighten him, disgust him. Therefore, God had to hide himself from Moses, for fear that Moses would be freaked. We know the dude. What we are saying, in the history of the Jewish people they saw a cross-section of aliens called gods. They were inter-breeded with the spirits of God, but there was a battle to control the Jewish nation of Israel, and each alien tried their best for control. Then came God. Now, there’s so much to talk about. Poor Moses, just meshed with many different batches of aliens and God. He could not understand one from the other, cause they all had different things going on. One fed the people, one followed the people, one gave water, one gave the floods. The Reptilians were the one that did the curse on Egypt. The blood that came from the earth was the war the of the Reptilians and the aliens with one another that created the bloodshed of the Reptilians underground, which exploded them, creating their blood to come into the water. I hope this doesn’t complicate your lives.

Q: The Reptilians with who? With who did they fight that the blood…?

Forces: Reptilians sent the curse of the plagues on Egypt, for they were fighting the gods of the north, or the Talls.

Q: I keep getting the message majority that the Reptilians are the bad guys, but then from time to time I keep receiving that they did some stuff that was good, or that was in the… l don’t understand.

Forces: They were not bad, but for the sake of not judging, it’s best to say they were the instrument that got you out of the Garden of Eden.

Q: That’s pretty bad.

Forces: Not unless you were knowing that the Garden of Eden from the Gods kept you as slaves there. Listen, if you had to pick fruit all day long, you would get tired of it.

Q: Were the Reptilians as is depicted a fallen angel or a messenger of God?

Forces: They were not that bad, but they became bad because they gave you the knowledge that you could procreate any time you wanted to. They were subjected by the gods to tum you on and off when they wanted you to. He came along and told you you could do it anytime. Which made you very what?

Q: Independent.

Forces: As George Burns would say, very prolific. But, (NAME) came and gave you the breath of life, the spirit of the Gods that transferred and transcended you into another plateau. Not just for procreation alone, even though if God gave you a bunker, as they call it, but you go even higher. Do you know where the alien bunkers are at?

Q: In the pole. In the ice poles.

Forces: Well, of course they are because they don’t use their bunker anymore.

Q: Jesus and the Name…what’s the relationship between the two?

Forces: They are the same.

Q: That’s what I thought. So Jesus was the manifestation of that force coming in?

Forces: Correct. Because he had a job to do, he had to continue it.

Q: So he wasn’t Adam?

Forces: Oh yeah, he was Adam too. We forgot to tell you that.

Q: So when (NAME mispronounced by one letter) took over, or took care of us, we’re considered his children, is the word (NAME) symbolic to the father of the untamed? For some reason I’m seeing that the word (NAME) can be reversed.

Forces: (NAME) was the son that came from the empire, and no transversion can be made. The sound must (NAME) be the same. It cannot be transverse.

Q: Is it not better not to say that unless we need to?

Forces: It is said here for you to here it. It has been told not to mention it in public, or openly, unless you need the force to manifest before you.

Q: If he was the Empire, what…was that an alien race too? Because we’ve studied other material and it was not that race.

Forces: You’re alien. They’re alien. Everyone’s alien.

Q: So how does this relate to what they call the Dak?

Forces: The duck?

Q: and others: The Dak.

Forces: It would be nice to have a duck in here.

Q: Was the name above all that, part of the council then?

Forces: Drech? Is that what you’re saying?

Q: No, was the name that you gave us, was it part of the council at that point, or was it…

Forces: The name we gave you came from the Empire, the highest Empire, yes.

Q: So what race was the Empire?

Forces: Reptilian.

Q: So they were the good Reptilians?

Q: Wait a second. This is where I was getting the messages.

Q: Yeah, yeah, the good ones.

Q: Wait a second. Is there good Reptilians and bad Reptilians, or is it just Reptilians?

Forces: Their Reptilians are fair in stature, and refined, and they’re good.

Q: And this is the highest Empire?

Q: Wait a second.

Forces: Doesn’t that beat all?

Q: Yep!

Q: Wait a second.

Q: That’s why the Forces had that Reptilian flying serpent on their uniforms.

Q: Caduces?

Q: That’s why Moses’ staff became a reptile and ate the other reptiles. All the magicians made the reptiles, out of sticks, but Moses’ ate up the others.

But is there…are there two kinds of reptilian? Is there a fallen son, as there is…

Forces: Let’s make it a wait a minute. I'll tell you everything we can tell you. For it’s imminent that we openly have dialog. Time is short. You need to know as much as you can know. But, if you had an Empire, and someone came to your workers and revealed that they can procreate, that energy becomes very prolific and very rebellious. The Empire then gets mad at the one who Reveals it to the workers. So that is why that particular Reptilian dracule is fallen.

Q: So the fallen one is the one that revealed? He is the bad guy to the Empire?

Forces: Yes

Q: So when it comes down to us he’s the bad guy too.

Q: Are you saying, then, that Dracula is a friend to humanity?

Forces: Well, we wouldn’t go that far. Remember, there are many different alternates and sides of the story. If that was not true, we would not say it. But as I show you this side of the prism, know ye that there is another side. Is that not just dandy?

Q: The relationship of the Empire to the gods…cause when you referred to gods two sessions ago, and I asked you gave several names of God. What is the relation of the Empire to those three names that you gave us?

Forces: The highest.

Q: The Empire’s the closest to the gods?

Forces: No. Let us try to give you an explanation. That Empire was challenged by Ulsa Minor and Ulsa Major. That is your other Empires. These are the ones that eat humans – you. These have an appetite, you are their delicacies.

Q: Are they the Dogs?

Forces: That is the Dog empire. That was the one that went to the Reptilian empire. The Reptilian empire is the most sophisticated, most powerful empire in the galaxies. But we told you that, right?

Q: Yes.

Forces: Now, remember we know the dude. Keep in mind, as we show you and have this dialog in present terms, your question "Is there a god higher than that Empire" – you. You. You are the god. You are the gods. You. You don’t understand that, do you?

Q: Is it that aspect, divine aspect inside that we’re talking about, that we…

Forces: C’mon now. C’mon, c’mon, c’mon. Don’t be so humble.

Q: More than that.

Forces: You are gods, you are the gods. C’mon. You have the power. How do you have the power? You’re like little…You are little…

Q: Is it like it like in the book Arcturus?

Forces: Excuse us, we’re having a nervous breakdown.

Q: The Name you gave us, where did he get the…where did he get…he was the Name that was of the empire…

Forces: You are the condensers. And you are the formless ones. We have just given you the secrets of yourselves that they don’t want you to know.

Q: So if we knew how to use…

Q: We can control matter, that’s what you’re saying. Because we are able to control matter, we condense it, or we are formless. That means we can create

ourselves, create the universe…

Q: Shape changes.

Q: More than that. It’s create.

Q: Up until Atlantis we could create forms and bodies to go into, but when Atlantis and when the flood came…

Forces: ...the flood. Why the flood? What did I give you as an explanation every single time you see flood? What does it relate to?

Everyone: Reptilians.

Forces: Reptilians. Or with the Reptilians’ flood, what happened?

Q: A force came in from outside, hit the earth, and caused it to flood.

Forces: What happened with Atlantis you were able to create formless ones. You were able to create the Atlantean experience. The flood happened, what happened with the flood?

Q: It destroyed that, it wiped out…

Forces: It wiped-no! It doesn’t destroy anything. It wiped out your what?

Q: Formless ones. What we created.

Forces: It wiped out your remembrance of the formless ones, your consciousness that you should not remember it. Any great cataclysmic event is an event that happens to help erase your remembrance of it.

Q: So therefore, the ability still exists, but we don’t remember it. Or is ability also put under some type of control?

Forces: Yes.

Q: So the ability’s also under control, so it really can’t be exercised at the moment?

Forces: Wait. We did not take this time out just to reach this point to give you misinformation. Repeat what you just said.

Q: The ability has also been put under a control, or not allowed at this time.

Forces: You think it has been put under control or not allowed at this time? That is not the reality. That is what they want you to believe.

Q: So we could still do those things?

Forces: Do you believe you can?

Q: Mmhmm.

Forces: Then you can.

Q: So it’s no different than what we’re living is the exactly like total recall.

Q: So we can change molecules, change…create things out of nothing?

Forces: You can receive and get answers by the very work. Some can get less than others. Some are increased more and heightened more. But then when you start receiving, it becomes what we want to give you. My/our main objective is to get your filament to such a point that we can start pushing into your thoughts, into your concepts, creative revelational forms of thinking that could actually blow everyone’s mind away that it comes from you.

(From Chapter 11 of the Higher Forces Excerpts Book, Session 157, sometime during the late 1970's)

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Thanks cameron.

Some parts are a little diluted but I guess that is due to the channelees and the lower-perspective of 4D STO. The other parts are really intrigueing, most importantly the later parts.

1.) Reptillian battles with other aliens on earth.
2.) Cataclysms which serve to wipe out consciousness en masse in regards to abilities -- corresponding with our burnt genetic structure (copies in the middle of the room?). Nothing new but they seem to dip a little deeper on "remembering", or rather awakening a la "The sleeper has awakened!!!"

Please post follow-ups to anything else you find interesting. I have so much reading material infront of me...ugh. I'm sure you have more than I, but if you "do" find anything exceptional, please keep us posted.

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I don't remember where, but I've read there is great misinformation in "Higher Forces" chanelling. What do you think?

By the way, I found out that 4 books of Ra Material has been translated to Turkish some time ago. I began to read these books now along with C material.

Ferit

Change we must, to live again
- Jon Anderson

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feritciva wrote:

I don't remember where, but I've read there is great misinformation in "Higher Forces" chanelling. What do you think?

Most other trance channelling transcripts that I've read, with the partial exception of Edgar Cayce, do seem to contain a good bit of misinformation.

feritciva wrote:

By the way, I found out that 4 books of Ra Material has been translated to Turkish some time ago. I began to read these books now along with C material.  Ferit

That's great.  Getting these quality channelled messages into many non-english languages seems quite important.

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feritciva wrote:

I don't remember where, but I've read there is great misinformation in "Higher Forces" chanelling. What do you think?

If one is familiar with RA and the C's, sifting through the above exerpts can still be interesting. Whenever a certain issue is brought up in any of the channelings of our beloved 6D STO, they are always at a such an elevated perspective, that IMO, they cleverly avoid many of the small details. So when reading a 4D STO, you can seldomly discern between unverified (perhaps misinformation) elements and focus on information that supports 6D claims.

Like I wonder if before the fall, 3D STO actually DID pluck fruits all day...what a funny thought, but I wonder if an existent so lacking in catalyst would simply be so...simple. And if you consider it from that perspective, being "tricked" by 4D STS to take the pot of gold a la 'the knowledge to procreate AT WILL', well it doesn't seem very fair to the lizzies at all. It's just our perspective NOW that allows us to be judgmental of something that occured by group-concensus 300,000 years ago. With our linear-perspective, we might believe such a domination is 'evil'. Yet for 4D STS perspective in non-linear existence, it is just a moment among countless other moments.

Anyways, what I mean is that the above exerpts do shed light on the other side of the coin. I often get tired of thinking upon veils upon veils of assumptions that guide my thoughts below-radar.

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I've only now looked at this topic, so pardon my "green", but the idea of disinfo/misinfo is one of my favorites. I usually tend to believe that if there is a substantial quantity of untruth in a message, then what truth is present is there to lend credence to the whole. I further conclude that it is a deliberate deception. In other words, if I perceive only a few, small errors in a piece, I allow the benefit of the doubt. But if the errors are major and abundant, I assume the truth therein is only window dressing, present only to fool the undiscerning.      BB, where did you read that pre-fall 3D STO just plucked fruit all day? I'm curious--is that a reference to the biblical description of Eden? Or do you refer to other source material? As I said, I'm new here, so please excuse any dumb questions.

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4D STO wrote:

Q: I keep getting the message majority that the Reptilians are the bad guys, but then from time to time I keep receiving that they did some stuff that was good, or that was in the… l don’t understand.

Forces: They were not bad, but for the sake of not judging, it’s best to say they were the instrument that got you out of the Garden of Eden.

Q: That’s pretty bad.

Forces: Not unless you were knowing that the Garden of Eden from the Gods kept you as slaves there. Listen, if you had to pick fruit all day long, you would get tired of it.

Q: Were the Reptilians as is depicted a fallen angel or a messenger of God?

Forces: They were not that bad, but they became bad because they gave you the knowledge that you could procreate any time you wanted to. They were subjected by the gods to tum you on and off when they wanted you to. He came along and told you you could do it anytime. Which made you very what?

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Okay, I admit, I don't have much patience tonight toread through the entire transcript (I'm just so biased towards the C's material!!  hehe)  buuuuut....I just want to clarify something..........it seems to me from the chunk I did read so far that the Higher Forces are claiming that the Reptillians aren't so bad.  That they caused our fall from Eden to give us our "independence", so we could procreate whenever we wanted (?) and I guess do whatever we wanted whenever we wanted.   So, they "liberated" us, I guess is what I'm understanding here?   And also, that Reptillians aren't bad,   they're actually "fair in stature, and refined, and they’re good."

??  Am I understanding this correctly?  I just want to make sure I'm not misunderstanding.   I haven't read any other HF transcripts, so I don't have the complete picture on everything they've had to say on the Reptilians, so maybe in other transcripts they have negative things to say about them.

Which leads to my next question (for Cameron I guess, since he's the only one here who'd know this)  but to the best of your knowledge Cameron, do you ever recall the Higher Forces mentioning anything about Reptilians eating people?   Having human body parts and entire bodies stored for consumption?    Did they ever mention the Reptillians feeding on human sex / anger / fear energy?  Have they ever talked about the Grays?   If so, what was their assessment on them?   The C's claim that the Grays are cybergenetic robotoids basically, pawns of the Reptillians who do their abductions.  The Grays report to the Reps and have no souls, only a hive mind.   They also absorb human and cattle fluids through the skin to sustain themselves.   Do the Higher Forces concur?   

Thanks for any feedback you can provide.....

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Yes, they say some are good. Just like some humans are good while other humans are bad.

4D STO wrote:

Forces: No. Let us try to give you an explanation. That Empire was challenged by Ulsa Minor and Ulsa Major. That is your other Empires. These are the ones that eat humans – you. These have an appetite, you are their delicacies.

There are different factions. I'm sure Zeta Reticuli (1+2+3) has some wise, good Drachonoids. Remember that above the lizzies lie the 5D STS "human-like" entities. The lizzies are manipulated when STS and objectively adherent to the natural laws when STO. As is all.

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Hi Lyra -
To be brief, yes the Forces are in general alignment with what was given by the Cassiopaeans.  Reptilians do eat humans, according to the Forces, and also are the major controlling faction.  The Forces have given information concerning underground bases in connection with the Reptilian info.  Basically, as you know from some of my other posts, I've read the Cassiopaean Transcripts extensively, and came into awareness of the Higher Forces source and channel only afterwards.  So your questions are about the same as my first questions.

Here's a quote that comes to mind:

Forces: See, the reason why we are talking to you about these things – we know how traumatic it might be for you all, but you might as well know the truth instead of sticking your head in the sand. But we’ve talked many, many years about these people, the aliens all around us – all around you. Not us, but you. Fortunately, you’re in paradise of heavenly tours, you know, but… The Reptilian aliens, which are powerful, are on their way as their cyclical – they come every 4,000 years. And that’s who we’re fighting – not us of course – we are watching them fight, and conflicts are happening, and that’s… well, there’s lots of water traveled because these are the… Reptilians are underground… are called Dracule. What happened?

Q: You said ‘Dracula’, right?

Forces: Well, that’s where that guy comes from, because they need the blood from humans, and that’s where they had the children, ‘cause they needed to… see the energy… Do you get the picture, you know?

Do you want to sit here talking… get the film Dracula and watch it… you know… suck the energy, suck the blood, you know… slurpees… slurpees.

(from an article I wrote about Mt. Rainier's Underground Base -- which needs updating)

Here's one more interesting quote on the subject of Reptilians:

Session 613 - November 1995

Greetings to all here present. Now we are in this area, and have seen many changes that are coming about in the political field and endeavors of international and national control. We find that conflicts are still carrying itself on in this mood and great conflicts and battles are ensuing through the Isles of Jupiter. We also find that the Soviet Unions tables are filled with the selling and bartering of our own life, of remember that these extra aliens visiting and coming in this area are not friendly and we see tremendous conflict internally and above the earth, because the silvers (abhor such conflict) such so that you would have to take the conflict going, sealing itself off from… kind of helps you grow into a strong but aloft, all in all we find that these changes are coming closer and closer. As far as where would you like of course with these changes you do have the secret police on your side. We are trying to get people to understand the many changes and adapts in the world history, it is something like a rebirth and in so doing… seems like that in this session, you might have three to four individuals speaking, if that happens, pay no attention to the other three, the one that is speaking is the one you need to listen to. We know that in your society, knowing the many different changes and strange encounters that you meet with, we have a feeling that you are MacDonald Hamburgers, wonder what this means? Well the great arch is the symbol of the reptilian aliens, three arches is of a different race, but the double Mac burger, unfortunately, is an alien symbol and is the reptilian symbol from IO the planet celeste galaxy IO. In this we, we did not want to tell you everything that is happening, but we have just got confirmed and over our own TV screens, says more or less to say, the answer was "what the heck". So it was that we tried to speak to you to that point in which we got confirmed to speak to you. MacDonald as you have the fast burger, is a reptilian controlled organisation world order style. It is something… it represents meat hamburger and your hamburger meat. It is controlled by and to infiltrate every government and country it can possibly get into and unfortunately, bear with us, there are microchips in the plastic, they are sending out waves and information and gathering of information and used as a front. We did not particularly want to tell you all this, because there is enough paranoia-ism going on at this very moment, but of course, MacDonald is used as an alien force phase front, by the world order and governments of both sides. So it is a convenient spot, there is nothing wrong with it, but you need to understand where it is coming from. It will be controlled and it will be usefuL not only for the reptilian aliens, but also for us, we will take advantage of it. Of course you will say, well, what does this mean to us, hmm everything and nothing, everything because there are many different changes coming, and in this part of the things that are coming, we find that the labels and symbolisms are more pronounced than ever before. There is the question of how do you know the alien reptilian force or alien reptilian in front of you? There are many different caricatures of a reptilian person, this is what I would consider the breakdown of reptilian knowledge or you knowing the fact that the reptilian society alien creatures as we spoke about many years ago, are on their way back. Needless to say, what does this impact apply upon us, being that we are here and the representation of this force, you are protected in that very presence of our presence of this particular mode of creature, therefore, they cannot touch you. It is not you we worry about, but the force of others that are into our line and breaking out and sharing of this protection is our main goal. We still have not answered the question, we know. How can you discern a reptilian alien in front of you? You can’t, why can’t you? you can’t. Well that phone call is good but we must not break this connection. How can you tell, they have slits in their eyes lateral or known as cats eyes.

1. obstacle.

2. Scales. There are Ã…“rtain scale-like creatures that being of reptilian nature, their scales would be found below the ear lobes or in back of the ears, they are scale nature substances.

3. You would find more or less a foul smell, occasionally coming from them, they cannot process the food or air vitally right.

4. They do try to interfere and block information, they do not particularly like this information coming through.

5. They are mathematical, very’ very astute to mathematics and very wise in calculus.

6. They find themselves to be always finger digital movement mild force, in short they have a problem of fingers always moving, reptilian fingers always move they do not stay still.

7. Serpent tongue. The tongue is quick and strange as it is there are some reptilian humanoids that have snake lizard shaped tongues that dart out., that you don’t particularly want to hear, we knew.

8. Then you have scales on the fingers and the third digit finger has a scale within a scale, moon within a moon, this is very difficult for them to cover up, they can become humanoid in certain form, but the third finger has three or two moons on it, this is a quick give away, no one is supposed to know this, you do.

Are they dangerous, they can be very mean and nasty, have no respect for your children or younger creatures, in fact they particularly like storing of younger creatures for their food supply. What does this mean, they abduct children? You have a thousand children to one thousand five hundred children in America, a day abducted, what does that mean, they disappear. What did they disappear for, their food, they like the children because there is no toxins in their bodies, therefore the toxicity of humans, you, stink, they don’t want you, there is too much toxicity’s, more metals, albumen, all sorts of ….your ecological damage, you are a disaster to their systems. They are meat eaters and unfortunately, this is the story. Now, these reptilians are nasty creatures, apart, they look upon the human race with disparaging ways, they have no regards for you as humans, in fact they have contempt for humans. They do not like humans, they do not like humans, we could all say together THEY DO NOT LIKE HUMANS. Well new that the first lesson continues, now we have fulfilled this information, reptilians are not your friends. In this way (we don’t have to repeat that) we find that reptilian aliens are not good God-like creatures, in fact on a scale of one to ten, of one not being too bad and ten being the worst, they rate a sole total of thirteen, so, what we would say, these creatures are obnoxious, devious, man-eaters and like children, they also have a certain habit of fouling the air, when they are in or nearby and they have a certain aspect of total dislike for things other than themselves. What we are all trying to show you here, being "What the heck" was the command it is to share with you this information, not to alarm you, but it has been said that the reptilians are coming back. Reptilians are also a part of the Satan- Lucifer family, where they have wings and bat wings in the back scales and have all the characteristics we have just spoken about, that is why the church had taken it upon itself, the last time they were here, around the 14th century, 15th century and 13th century, that they prepared the people and strengthened them for these evil ones, what they did then, there was no control over, though what you could not see this, they could do anything they wanted to then and you know it is almost different now, but they think it is the same, that they could do anything they want to, well – not with us being present here and the force of our presence in this making. Unfortunately, they cannot do everything they want to then, which is fortunate for yourselves.

Q: When the reptilians arrive in two to three months, are there any specific occurrence we might look for?

Forces: First of all, as we said, let us focus not on just one race, but a whole lot of races, people have a feeling that they will be good, when they find out that they are not good, then they are bad, and if they are bad their not good. Of course you will not interfere with that particular interaction, but I think we answered the question whether they are good. We cannot answer any more that they are good or not, they are just plain downright bad.

Q: The UFO that–––and I saw, and we didn’t see it in its entirety, was it good or was it evil.

Forces: What color was surrounding it?

Q: Orange.

Forces: Then we would say that it was a reptilian force. The orange color is another scale of information, you see ships in the sky, if they have an orange… glowing force around it, then you know 99.9% that you will be their Big Mac.

Q: When the reptilians come, is part of their aim to release this entity off the island and part of the world order is to control that entity for our purposes or their purposes against the reptilians?

Forces: Well that can be applied, but it is also their ability to infiltrate, take over the earth in a negative form, which of course, we will not allow to happen, because we represent that force of Mighty Mouse. We give a secret in that little explanation, but their force is that they have been here many thousands of years ago and are just coming back to see what has been done, how the people have advanced and what has been accomplished.

Q: Why did they leave, or what made them leave in the first place?

Forces: Because they are on a cyclical journey and their comet and force of energy has to be moved wherever they are at, has to be reflective of the energy field that is allowing them to be.

(from Chapter 12 of the Excerpt Book)

Thought you all would be interested in hearing some of these ideas the Forces have expressed. 

Frankly, this source has been talking about aliens, HD reality (no not 'high definition' - but isn't it interesting how that's the next television technology - HD TV?), underground bases, NWO, conspiracy topics since 1972.  The synchronicity between this source and other more current sources leads me to one highly probable possibility.  These realities do exist.  And due to the implications of this existence for our understanding of reality, it seems to require a critical seat in one's study, awareness, and conscious development.  Spiritual evolution, in other words.  But is this seat filled with most people?  Do others, like some of us in the Noble Realms, seek to know the truth about who the Reptilians really are?

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Thank you SO much Cameron for taking the time to put that together.   I appreciate it.  It's interesting stuff, and yup, they definately do correlate with what the C's are saying.  Thanks again!  smile

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Cameron,

Thank you for sharing the sessions, and I agree with you that there is a current of the C's energy in the Higher Forces transmissions.  I noticed this the first time I read them a few years ago.

Is there an ETA on a new session? 


To others of you who have been craving eggs--


Higher Forces wrote:

You have a thousand children to one thousand five hundred children in America, a day abducted, what does that mean, they disappear. What did they disappear for, their food, they like the children because there is no toxins in their bodies, therefore the toxicity of humans, you, stink, they don’t want you, there is too much toxicity’s, more metals, albumen, all sorts of …

Albumen... aka egg whites.  Maybe I was wrong about the egg cravings some of us had/have going, and it wasn't just about symbolism. DOH!

Huhn!... it is further interesting that egg whites are the part of the egg without cholesterol, and therefore healthy, given a healthy egg that is.  I wonder how many people gave up eating eggs because of the cholesterol in the yolk and health concerns. Unless you've ever eaten an egg white only omelet, you'll never know just how superior is a whole egg omelet.  Maybe I need to have a 'lil heart to heart talk with my taste buds, eh? big_smile

I know a lot of people were afraid of Dracula when they were kids, but I cannot tell you just how scared I was of Dracula when I was a kid. In fact I was commenting to AFB last week about this, and then I wondered why in the heck I was telling him how scared I was of Drac when I was a kid.  I even went so far as to get myself a crucifix (not raised Catholic) and hung it on my bed post, otherwise I couldn't sleep because I was trying to fall asleep whilst scared stiff (hmmm... paralyzed? GACK!), just sure a vampire was going to come and suck my blood... and I would become one of them. Mummies didn't scare me, Frankenstien didn't scare me, Godzilla didn't scare me, etc., just the blood suckers.  Bleh, bleh, bleh!

If syncs keep up at this rate I'm going to have a list that rivals Santa's by December. And I'm just shaking my head... lately this seems to be something I'm doing upon awaking each day and one of the last things I do before I fall asleep at night.  These are vewee, vewee intewesting times. wink

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

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Auendove wrote:

Albumen... aka egg whites.   Maybe I was wrong about the egg cravings some of us had/have going, and it wasn't just about symbolism. DOH!

This is interesting, thanks for pointing it out.  No one caught that before -- heck, I didn't even know what albumen was.

The Dracula point is well taken.  The Forces have a way -- as other prophets have had -- of using the seeker's personal experience to describe or make real a concept.  It boils down to each of us being on our experiential cycle, each with unique and some similar experiences.  The lessons can be learned often times only relative to experiences had.  The magic of working with higher dimensional STO entities is the conscious awareness they have of our past and future.  Surely free will must be upheld, but no harm in choosing words one might particularly relate with when explaining a topic such as reptilian abuses.

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It seems clear that our future as STO candidates imbibes more and more this concept of increasing psychic awareness of others experiences -- a quantum leap in relationship between one and another -- to the point perhaps of being more adequately felt as a group consciousness.  This while also firmly grounded in an individualized consciousness -- a unique personality.  The Law of One with the individualized conscious nodal structure of cyclical learning.

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Another interesting note about albumen--it comprises apx. 67% of the eggs liquid content. This not to far off from the 70% water the planetary and human bodies are comprised of.

cameron wrote:

The lessons can be learned often times only relative to experiences had.  The magic of working with higher dimensional STO entities is the conscious awareness they have of our past and future.

And throw into the mix of that that we may be those higher dimensional STO entities in the future. HA! Where does that leave us? Everywhere.

cameron wrote:

It seems clear that our future as STO candidates imbibes more and more this concept of increasing psychic awareness of others experiences -- a quantum leap in relationship between one and another -- to the point perhaps of being more adequately felt as a group consciousness.  This while also firmly grounded in an individualized consciousness -- a unique personality.  The Law of One with the individualized conscious nodal structure of cyclical learning.

This much like--"It's what humans don't share that keeps them divisible", yes?

Those were some beautiful words you wrote cameron. wink

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

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Auendove wrote:

I thought I read recently through interacting with cameron that the Higher Forces were also channelled from 4th density, although until I read that I had always thought they were coming in from the 6th density, and I remember being really surprised because I always thought, or assumed, they were from the 6th because they "felt"  much like the C's... maybe I just misread something.

The Higher Forces may be 6th Density.  I did, however, mention them as 4th density above.

After further consideration -- it appears the Forces are in reality more accuately designated as a 6th Density Entity Group.  As usually happens when learning lessons, this understanding came from ruling out what appears to be unlikely and looking objectively at what remains.  Personally, this is more of a return to my original intuition about which density the Forces reside (synchronous with Auendove's first intuition it seems).  I was, however, always open to the possibility that they were 4th Density.  Some of the reasons why it became possible that the Higher Forces are 4th Density entities are:

- They talk about interaction with what I've come to understand as 4th Density entities (aliens and 'graduates'); as well as 3rd Density Humans
- They talk about utilizing UFO's for transportation
- The entity (channel) talks about dealing and interacting directly with the Forces
- The entity has painted portraits (1, 2, 3, and 4) of what I thought were the higher forces

More recently, and after some more advanced conversations, the following distinctions were made.

- The Forces network with a 6th Density Council
- They are described by the channel as "ethereal"; without physical bodies
- 6th Density entities can and do interact with 3rd/4th density entities
- The paintings have been further described as portraits of extraterrestrials and 4th density STO (3rd Density graduates)

It would explain how the Forces have come through at different times with distinctly different tones and "personalities" -- and yet always claimed to be from a group of overseers.  This is in line with sources like the RA material and the Cassiopaea material.  The Higher Forces speak about being part of a council that is charged with overseeing mankind's development, extraterrestrial interactions with humanity, and extraterrestrial's interactions with eachother.

Cassiopaean's wrote:

Zindar Council is a sixth level density council which spans both physical and ethereal realms and which oversees dramatic development points at various civilizational sectors in lower density levels.

This may or may not be the same council as the Forces have spoken about -- but it certainly shares a close similarity in explanation.

Here are a few quotes from the Higher Forces concerned with or mentioning the Council.

To all here present to know we are in the area of and have seen great all of those not meeting and deciding fate. It is a sad ___ to notice that that which is the torch of freedom and your republic has turned into a big CEO, who tells and directs the president. We see that you are the members of a particular big company, but it takes the CEO’s to decide your president. You no longer have a voting power for privilege. And one vote, one person, not true. If they feel like it they can take the minorities and dump their votes, intimidate them, let them stand at home. We are up in arms about you allowing this. It cannot be allowed; it is wrong and a very base root. It is so wrong that we and the Council have deemed it necessary to have emergency meetings. Therefore we have certain cause for tragedies to happen it will be the work to remind them of the responsibility that they have let loose. The tragedies are those dealing first with nature, then your financial, then there are two to be unleashed. (reference)

Now you guys developed your way of rule, we of course are governed by the Council on high. Which in turn is given direction and feed issue and followed by the empire. (reference)

Yes, We do meet in a large chamber in our ship that is made of pure gold, pure gold. And the table is made of an alloid that is hextnite or hextanite that floats in the air. It beams forth into the physical body that we speak through. These wave-lengths are force beams that penetrate all ten of his centers. If one center is out of harmony, it would eventually destroy the communication. Therefore, if one center is not in harmony, we would not be able to communicate with you now. That is the physical structure and reason why these centers must be put into harmony, so that you will be able to communicate with us, the regions of this higher force. Our sphere of this room is pure gold so that the electrons that pass through our vocal cords, through the thought forms alone do we speak here. And these thought forms bounce off into this table of the sides which peruates the light visions into his centers. His centers are now that are speaking, and not his vocal cords. His vocal cords are moving, his mouth is moving only so that you will perceive. But his centers are vibrating and this is what you hear at this moment is the centers of this vehicle. The room is at least 5 stories high. It would encompass 3 of the Empire State building in length. The numbers that sit at this council is 144,000 in which 3 members of the higher deities speak to you. (reference)

This topic is in part a way to explore some of the research that has come about while working with the Higher Forces material.  It will be collated into published articles at some point.  Any feedback or comments are appreciated. 

If it's not obvious, the above should show at least that my research into this material is just beginning.  I've in no way made any conclusions or closed the door to what may or may not be true about this large body of work.  Mostly it's enough to just continue getting the source material (audio) into transcribed form -- so that this kind of research can be more realistically done.  Of course, my thanks to the Realm Goers and the Realm keeper-upper for allowing a vehicle for this type of non-mainstream exploratory research.  Not to be overly dramatic, I'm just aware of how rare it is to find a venue to discuss certain high-frequency ideas.