Reptile Solutions Plus MILAB Talk (Page 5 of 9)

Exactly....and that's something I inadvertantly left out of my last post (I'm at work and getting interrupted by the phone...)  These figures/religious ideas seem to come with attached muck on them.  It's not just that neg entities like to swoop in on those who go down that road, because that's only one part of it.  The other "unclean" aspect is that there's just a whole lot of muck that's stuck to it in general due to how these concepts have been co-opted over the millenia.   So it's tricky stuff to call on and use.  It can leave one feeling like they have residual gunk to clean out afterwards or something.  But just like you noted nanci q, it does seem to work in the short term anyway.

I absolutely agree that invoking a specific being, no matter how loving or powerful or whatever, can still be a path fraught with problems....especially since on an unconscious level, you'll also be tuning into the history of energy attached to tuning into that energy.

So when you invoke Jesus, many people already have gotten a big "no" around Christianity due to the distortions within the Church.  (Like I always had a big problem with the whole blood sacrifice element and the emulation of drinking Jesus' blood in Communion, which seems totally Luciferian, and not anything to do with Jesus.....a satanic "trap" or overlay carried over from the cult of Mithras, who also worshipped a god that rose again, or Horus, who did the same thing in Egypt, yada yada.)

I was lucky that we rarely went to church and I never really received that programming. I was always looking on it from the outside and going, "What the $%&?" when I'd see different practices and Christian rituals.

So my spiritual awakening when I meditated at 16 and basically asked, "Jesus, what are you about?  What's the deal? Do I need to attend church and praise you the way everybody else is doing?"  and then he showed up and all my chakras opened up and I went through a year of 100% altruistic love.....well, I don't think that happens very easily if you have a believe about the dark, distorted stuff the church has taught for aeons.  It's a shame, really, because there are so many sincere folks out there who are really seeking contact with him as a teacher, and they can't reach that vibration because all this other programming gunk is stuck in their heads.  We all have that, to some degree.

In my interactions with Jesus, he has always told me don't worship him. Honor the "spiritual creator" (our Source) as well as the "spiritual essence" that permeates creation.  So the worldview he shared was that we need a tune up around our understanding of God, because God is not what we think he is! (Or it is.)

The main thing I've taken out of it is that you need to find a way to connect with a power of Love that boosts you and makes you realize how special you are as a unique spiritual being, because that's how "god" communicates - powerful, awe-inspiring, all-encompassing love that gives you tremendous strength because it heals all your inner woundedness, self=hatred, fear, etc.

So, I've experimented a great deal over the years with invoking:

God/Goddess/Great Spirit/Spiritual Creator/Mind of God Energy/Divine Love

and working with variations on that to purify the way I attune myself to Spirit.

I don't much like praying to God because within my own mind I immediately am aware of how anti-female it is to pray to a being we've framed as being "male" in our programming.

On the other hand, praying to Goddess doesn't do it for me, either.  Why be anti-male?  Why just focus on the female?  Is that really a "correction' for years of hierarchy or just more of the same?

Great Spirit is the Native American framework, and I love that, but sometimes that gets a bit...abstract for my tastes.  I KNOW that there is a spiritual creator, a sum total of wisdom and love, that I can contact directly, just as I KNOW that there is a spiritual "force" or essence that is one way that this energy manifests, and it runs through creation.  And that is ALSO God.

And I love the quantum view of the vibrational field that moves through matter, which seems evidence of a "force" within our atoms. But being too intellectual with that doesn't allow me to connect through my heart, through feelings of love, to that source of much BIGGER, JUMBO LOVE that "God" is.

Anyway, I just wanted to mention that, from my perspective, although I count Jesus and the archangel Michael as tremendous teachers and helpers, even they are always telling me to put "God first" (however my mind feels like framing God that day.)  Because we're supposed to be self-reliant.

The one thing I will say is this. You can cast out negative entities through will, you can connect to your own Higher Mind and clear stuff out....but I've found my "power" or my ability to do this with 100% accuracy is greatly increased when I invoke "God/Goddess/Great Spirit/Spiritiual Creator/Divine Force" first and go spiritually "online" to a power much greater than my own.  That way, my individual energies are boosted and helped a thousandfold. I also find that invoking protects me from most counter-attack from negative entities, and it's very important to "shield up" and spiritually protect yourself when you're doing this work, 'cause these entities are nasty.

So, you can definitely approach entity removal work from all angles....just through your own clear intent, through your intent PLUS the invocation of Spirit, or a combination of things. But I advise some shielding throughout when you take on this stuff.....either shielding of your own, or shielding by invoking Spirit.
LipstickMystic aka Jennifer

I am the last person to 'make light' of this whole situation believe me, but I have this silly little TV commercial jingle stuck in my head that's related to this. I can't remember the product but their jingle goes...."Life's messy, clean it up."   

That's sorta where we're at with this multidimensional stuff now isn't it? Taking back our 'power' on those other dimensions that many of us didn't even believe existed a few short years ago. It's grow up time......time to be fully 'responsible' for more of ourselves in far more ways than we knew.

B. H. Clow's term of "God posion" has always made me giggle too.
At the end of the Piscean Age, so many if not all of it's archetypal planetary teachers have, as has been said here already, been totally distorted, demeanded, disempowered, overshadowed by clever and deliberate negative thoughtforms. Stolen and tweeked so as to be used for far different things than what they were originally. Typical.

So again on yet another level, humanity is now at the point where we've got to do this thing clean n' sober, no religious props, all on our own so to speak! I see this whole subject as a profound waking up of humanity to the many unique (hey, you've gotta admit that they are unique!) ways we've been used and abused by the negative who reside in the "Unseen".

I didn't realize that lyra had written a book about this subject and I obviously need to try and get up to speed with who's doing what on this subject here at NR. Thanks again to so many of you here with such stable and non theatrical knowledge about this business. It's much needed by many right now.

Everybody’s thoughts on the negative energetic baggage associated with Jesus and Co. are very interesting!Since I mentioned JC in regard to attachment release, I'll join in with my POV. First, I have no experience working with Mary or Michael or any other part of the Christian or Catholic Pantheon. Second, I totally agree that working with energies strongly associated with Christianity is tricky because it’s a fear-based religion (as lyra said) and can create "psychic clutter" (as nancy put it.)

In my case, I grew up Christian. Hit a wall. Couldn't reject Christianity because I couldn't deny the miraculous stuff I'd seen (healings, exorcisms, other profound experiences.) I was totally confused! So, like Lipstick, I started asking Jesus questions, like who are you REALLY? Ironically, it was JC who pulled me right out of the Christian M.O. and said: don't cling to me….most of what you learned about me is wrong….forge your OWN connection to Source. And, then over time, I learned to create my own private religion of the heart and move beyond any organized group or movement. (I don't want to associate myself with anything these days, gives me the willies just thinking about joining a church or a movement or even a group. Whenever somebody starts to prostyletizing, all I can think is trap! trap!)

Anyway, perhaps because I attribute JC with helping me untangle the dark tentacles of religion/movements, I can connect to that energy without the ensuing psychic clutter or lurking negs waiting to pounce?? Also, when I call upon JC for assistance, I'm really cognizant about not tapping into any splintered Christ consciousness-es. I specifically ask for “the highest evolved Jesus Christ consciousness."  This seems “clear the air" for me. Regardless.....the larger point behind my bringing up JC earlier in the thread is about quality assistance and protection. Whatever works for you,  use it.

This is my thinking at this point in time…..We’re all vulnerable on this plane of existence. We’re all in bondage to some degree. Sometimes it works to stand firmly in our willpower and intent, and sometimes that’s not enough. I think most of us will encounter situations wherein we need to synch-up with a higher power -- a power that's beyond even our Higher Selves -- a pure positive/creative power. If vibration attracts like vibration, and none of us are *pure* positive/creative power (yet), then it stands to reason that at times we might have trouble synching up, especially when we're compromised or under attack. Such is when a magnifier or a clear conduit comes in handy - whatever/whoever that may be.

BTW, speaking of an allergy to Christian lingo, lately I’ve developed an allergy to ANY lingo, be it Buddhist, New Age, Wiccan… as LM was saying it’s difficult to know what the hell we should even call “God"  these days. I don't want to become *spiritually correct* but I can't help being turned off by so many of the buzz words. I don't even like the word "spiritual" these days. I’m probably over intellectualizing, but the energy and association around so much of the esoteric lingo is such a turn-off. I feel like I’m always walking on eggshells, trying to figure out what words I should use relative to whom I'm speaking. I dunno, maybe the more these labels bug you, the more you’re moving toward what lies beyond words, the universal...

Regarding divine identities carrying baggage, It may depend on where your intent is being directed. If towards an illusory external character, then you may be handing yourself over to whatever hides behind that illusion. Anything illusory that is invested with energy through belief becomes a thoughtform with a life of its own, but due to its fake nature it cannot give more than it takes, so trying to invoke illusions has no net positive effect.

The universal Christ force fully manifested within the original Jesus and latent in us all has been commercialized into an illusory external idol, and that idol is what carries the baggage and danger. If you cannot divorce your perception of Jesus from the commercialized personality that promotes desperation, complacency, and blind belief in an imaginary savior figure then your intent might not reach the right destination. But if you can cut through the illusion and acknowledge the Christ force within you together with the spirit of Jesus who once helped manifest it on earth, then it becomes an act of internalized empowerment that gets the job done. That is, if there is something real to invoke to begin with, because full illusions like Ashtar or St Germain have nothing real to address. Do whatever works for you.

OK. . so I just went to lie down in bed, and after a couple of minutes of being there something suddenly jumped off the bed.  I tried to convince myself that it was my roommates cat for a little while, but when I turned the light on there was nothing there. . weird. .