1 (edited by Hildegarde 2006-07-15 21:32:25)

Topic: Hermeticism and Magick

This is for the real seekers out there.

Hermeticism is another energy you may find powerful. It is the study of man, the microcosm in relation to the universe, the macrocosm.
You will learn the universal/natural laws and be able to apply them. This is purely a practical path. It is a sacred science. It is magick. It is an exploration of your being. As humans we are only scratching the surface of spirituality. Magick will help you go deeper. This is the path to the divine. This is just a path to be one with God.

Remember find what resonates with your heart. Find your own path.


-----Books----- Study these well!

*The Kybalion by Three initiates : Download
*Stellar Man by John Baines : Download
*Initiation into Hermetics by Franz Bardon (IIH) : Download

-----Websites-----

*[url]http://www.hermeticuniversityonline.com/[/url] - Free courses on magick offered by Nita.

*[url]http://www.lava.net/~pagios/[/url]- William Mistele has 25 years of experience in the Hermetic Tradition.
He has a well rounded experience in magick. He has very good advice for the Hermetic student.

*[url]http://www.abardoncompanion.com/ [/url]- Loads of info here! Go to the Correspondence Excerpts for loads of extras on the Hermetic tradition. There's so much extra stuff here to get you started in your practise of IIH.

-----Forums-----

*[url]http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FranzBardonMagi/[/url] - Franz Bardon Magi

*[url]http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/e_franzbardon/[/url] - E Franz Bardon

*[url]http://www.sacred-magick.org/[/url] - Sacred Magick Forums

"The universe is on fire with wonder, beauty, and ecstasy." - From the Undines to Humanity

2 (edited by sinaptix 2006-07-16 00:18:43)

Re: Hermeticism and Magick

I found this on another forum earlier today and it seems like it would fit in with this:

Occult & Magick Ebooks
http://earthspirits.org/community/freeebooks.htm

Hermetics Library of Magical & Mystical Ebooks
http://www.hermetics.org/ebooks.html

Magic in Theory and Practice
http://www.hermetic.com/crowley/aba/

3 (edited by Hildegarde 2006-07-19 20:31:42)

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The purpose and outcome of the Franz Bardon system of initiation as expressed through William Mistele, an experienced magician.

William Mistele wrote:

1. You make your mind completely empty of thoughts so it is reflective
like a mirror, receptive like the ocean, empty like a void,  open like the
sky, intense like air the moment before lightning strikes, serene like
moonlight, fragile and responsive to suggestion like a dream, and solid
and enduring like a mountain.

   2. Next, with this empty mind, you focus your attention on something--a
problem, your life path, an elemental being, a spirit, or a project you
wish to accomplish.  You add to this a little technique.  Techniques are
endless in variety.  You can visualize a picture, a sigil, an image or
symbol of God/Goddess;  you can meditate on a prayer or a chant;  you can
use incense, music, or a tone;  you can do a pathworking, mental
wandering, construct a magical circle or perform a ritual, gaze upon a
crystal ball, speak a word of power, etc. etc. Technique, methods, and
procedures are employed to receive and amplify impressions.

    3. And finally, through direct experience and careful study and
analysis, you interpret your impressions.  You translate them into words
and call it telepathy, into visual images and call it clairvoyance, into
sensations and feelings and call it clairsentience, into all three while
connecting to a spirit and call it an evocation, into new information and
call it knowledge, into a spiritual realization and call it wisdom, into
light and freedom and call it enlightenment, etc.  Impressions received
from outside yourself can also over time become  internalized so you
embody their qualities and energy.

     4. This same procedure can also be expressed in a more active manner
typical of magick.  All methods and techniques for changing oneself or the
world boil down into a simple formula:  you concentrate on what is desired
as if it is real right now in this moment.  You add an appropriate kind of
energy to your picture, feeling, thought, etc. so it has some power
independent of your mind and thoughts and can move with enthusiasm toward
the objective on any or all planes.  And you also take into consideration
and comprehend from within every force, situation, resistance, and
obstacle which blocks your vision from becoming reality.  This last
element insures that your course of action is forged from wisdom and
results in harmony--that you can proceed without inference or resistance
from the energies or environments your desire encounters on the four
planes.

    5.  For example, in chapter three of Bardon's Initiation into
Hermetics, you practice imagining the elements of fire, water, air, or
earth around yourself as if you are immersed within a boundless sphere of
a single element.  Take the earth element. What is it to imagine you have
within and around yourself a vast expanse of the earth element?  This is
the same as learning to think, feel, and perceive as a gnome. 

    6. Your mind attunes to that one element learning to amplify,
condense, and transform it.  After this training, it is not so difficult
then to form connections and interact in a creative manner with gnomes.
If you spent time concentrating on minerals, precious stones,  trees,
mountains, and so forth you would be undergoing the training of a gnome
magician.  And so it is with fire, water, and air. 

     7. You can also use colors instead of the elements. If you imagine
yourself within a boundless expanse of emerald green light, then you are
learning to think, feel, and perceive as a spirit of Libra or Taurus in
the earthzone or a spirit from the sphere of Venus.  The colors, then, can
be used for probing the qualities, powers, and consciousness of the beings
within the spheres regardless of whether you make connections to them or
not..

    8. In the end, when you can concentrate effectively, your thought is
like electricity and magnetism.  Everything else is attracted to and
becomes aligned with it.  The four planes cooperate with it.  It is like
akasha--obstacles dissolve in its presence.  It is like a mating of Saturn
and Uranus--something completely new and without precedent is introduced
into the world and yet it feels so natural it seems like it is what was
meant to be all along.

     9.  When I consider the entire spectrum of methods in Bardon's three
books with over five hundred different spirits and 26 cosmic letters, this
summary is what I come back to in order to understand what I am doing.
Self-transformation, self-mastery, and integration--aligning oneself with
the forces, the laws, and the harmony of the universe--are at the heart of
the process from beginning to end.

"The universe is on fire with wonder, beauty, and ecstasy." - From the Undines to Humanity

4 (edited by Hildegarde 2006-07-17 19:28:57)

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Nita wrote:

What can be substituted in the place of the (IIH) exercises?

We can substitute meditation, autosuggestion, belief, prayer, introspection, noble deeds, asceticism, wisdom, knowledge, love, silence, and humility in place of the exercises.

You can read this and know why some people just seem to advance quickly on the Steps of IIH. They have already been in training for most of their life. They still have to work upon the different steps but it seems to come easily to them. Other studies do bring benefits to all magic which is again, why tolerance should be practiced. No one needs to feel because it works for him or her that not everyone else can get to the same place. It is why the path is termed as individual.

"The universe is on fire with wonder, beauty, and ecstasy." - From the Undines to Humanity

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Mr. Mistele wrote:

Spend some time doing what is the opposite of all your talent, attention, and work.  Develop the areas in which you are weakest.  And then combine these opposites and your creativity will unfold.  Magical equilibrium is not cheap.  It comes with a great price.  It requires you to give your full, undivided attention to the things you are weakest at.  Or, as the king in the epic, The Mahabarata said, “My opposite is myself.“

This has prompted me to be normal for a while. I have to focus on the other areas of my life that needs some balancing.
I'm reading too many books on spirituality and focusing too much time on this. I need a break from this.

"The universe is on fire with wonder, beauty, and ecstasy." - From the Undines to Humanity

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A sample of the "Franz Bardon News" by Jim (Bardon) Milligan

http://www.geocities.com/franzbardon/fb_news.html

***THE FRANZ BARDON NEWS***
March-April 1988
Volume II, Number 4

...

A LETTER FROM OTTI VOTAVOVA The following is a translation of a letter donated to the FRANZ BARDON FOUNDATION ARCHIVES this past year. It is written in German by Franz's secretary, Otti Votavova, to a student. Please see footnotes by Jim Bardon for clarifying comments. The letter was written 6 years after Franz had left his physical body (July 10, 1958), but before Otti's death 9 years later on February 9, 1973. At the moment, this is the only item which has been donated to the Archives.

TRANSLATION:
Praha, Czechoelovakia - July 2, 1964.
Dear Mr.
I have received your letter dated June 17th. I didn't answer immediately, only because I wanted to you to receive, at least this first letter through my girlfriend. I expect her for a very brief visit tomorrow. One is and one becomes more and more an initiate, as soon as one starts to work on oneself according to the instructions which are contained in the works of F.B.

It doesn't matter if one person is more initiated than another person. Each human being is an individual and must work hard on him or herself if he or she wants to become a high initiate. Nobody can walk the path to perfection for somebody else.

F.B. not only had students here, but they were scattered throughout the world and some of those many students not only mastered the 3 published works by F.B. in their practice but also a series of more Tarot cards in whose wisdom they were personally initiated by F.B. It was absolutely no problem for F.B. to supervise the progress of his advanced students in various ways, no matter how great the distance may be. 1*

Herm. Bauer in Freiburg/Breisgau published 3 scientific works as well a "life - story" by F.B. Unfortunately the publisher reworked the "life-story" to a attractive best-seller like occult novel. I had to read 40 pages before I cooed discover an original sentence. Since that happened after the departure of F.B. I cooed only communicate this unpleasant surprise to H. Bauer. I didn't receive any answer to my letter referring to this matter, although up to this incident I had a animated exchange of letters with the mentioned publisher. 2*
F.B. had dictated to me already a fourth scientific work entitled "The Golden Book of Wisdom". But it was confiscated at this place and at mine and it was destroyed. This kind of literature is not desired in our country. 3*

That during the confiscation we both had to sacrifice all our other works and books does not have to be emphasized. Besides the 4 scientific works F.B. planned also to describe the 5th Tarot card for advanced students as well as other instructional books about healing methods etc. His departure which came unexpectedly for all of us prevented him of doing this of course.

Not only the end of "Frabato" is falsified as you can see from my words but a lot has been completely changed and the rest has been rearranged. 4*

In his portrayal F.B. didn't want to write a novel as such, but he wanted to explain to his students and readers why he was urged by the Divine Providence to describe the first three Tarot cards and to give it to the public. He would never have done it by his own motivation especially he didn't do it in order to be recognized as a great writer. The book "Frabato" is much more interesting in its original composition than in its clumsy reworking [the 1st edition].

Her. Bauer was also asking me to write something about the life of F.B. which he wanted to use as an insertion in the life-story. I complied with his wish but my composition of "In Memoriam" which is in accordance with the truth has not been published. H. Bauer mentioned in his letter of acknowledgment, that it was not suitable for the general public and the majority of the readers would regard its content as phantasy. 5* He himself found its content very interesting-so he wrote.

I refrained from a description of the worldly life because it wouldn’t profit anybody. Should you be completely mature for the hermetic knowledge then the content of "In Memoriam" which I wrote will mean a lot to you. I made a copy for you which you can keep for yourself so that you can, read it often. Please acknowledge the receipt of this letter but please don't mention from where you received it. Be very careful how, you choose your words. Hint only on what else you might want to know. 6* Not far away from Zurich, that is in Lucerne, Stadthofstr. 6 lives Mr. Ing. Wilhelm Koranyi, who visited F.B. personally tin Nov. 1957). He was our guest for a few days and F.B. even took Mr. Koranyi to his home in Silesia, where in many regards he profited in a few hours so much that it was no comparison with all his previous experience.

Since it is vacation-time right now it is possible, that Mr. Kor., and his wife are on a vacation. If you want to visit the mentioned person then please phone him first if possible. Tel. Nr. 32426. I hope that you are satisfied with my answer for now. I wish you lots of success and contentment I greet you and sign

Otti Votavova

P.S. I will write to Ing. Kor, that he will give you more explanations when you will turn to him.

...

"The universe is on fire with wonder, beauty, and ecstasy." - From the Undines to Humanity

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http://www.geocities.com/franzbardon/fb_news.html

CHECKLIST OF EXERCISES (FROM STEP ONE) TO CONTINUE DAILY

Make a Xerox copy of this page and post it, somewhere convenient your home. The following drills should be made a permanent part of your routine as time permits, although not necessarily performed in your magic room as a formal exercise. As a general rule, one does not abandon previously completed exercises, just because he or she has started on the next Step. Rather, one's daily lifestyle becomes gradually more and more saturated with magical exercises. In this way, you will not lose the benefit of all your previous exercises. The numbers in parenthesis refer to the Step and Type and Exercise number from the Training Guide. For instance, (I-M-1) means "Step 1-Mental Exercise-#1". "A"=Astral "P"=Physical

(I-M-3) THOUGHT FOCUSING While walking about or performing some chore, carefully control your thoughts so that nothing else is allowed to distract you from your intended thoughts, no matter how loudly outside thought forms may impinge against your consciousness.

(I-M-4) THOUGHT VACANCY Similar to (I-M-3) above, but with the goal being to completely force out all impinging thoughts from your environment, while holding your own mind vacant. This can be done while walking through a shopping mall or other intensely astrally polluted environment, and will keep this part of the brain firm and strong.

(I-P-1) PHYSICAL HABITS Body brushing, stretching exercises, avoiding carcinogenic substances on the body or in food, enemas, salt poison-drawing baths, distilled water, lecithin.

(I-P-2) CONSCIOUS BREATHING As often as possible during the day, practice breathing in your specific already-fulfilled desire along with the physical air element (which always contains astral fire, water, air & earth) as food for the body. This can be done anywhere.

(I-P-3) EUCHARISTIC EATING & DRINKING Charge all your food & drink first.

(I-P-4) CONSCIOUS BODY BATHING Force out hindering astral contamination.

(I-P-5) CONSCIOUS EYE BATHING "

"The universe is on fire with wonder, beauty, and ecstasy." - From the Undines to Humanity

8 (edited by Barefoot Doc 2006-07-20 07:21:37)

Re: Hermeticism and Magick

Its very much based on the kabbala along with most western masonic science and majick, the question is do you assume the kabbalah to be truth or a created system from the ego of man or a system reflecting the controlling hiarchies from the astral dimension.

I was heavily into Crowley, Blavatsy, Golden Dawn and all that many years ago but after a vision on shrooms i saw all the tentacles leading to the astral prison, i had to go outside and burn all my books on the subject as a cleansing ritual. I only speak for myself here and report what happened and respect others beliefs.

Believe me you could create your own majical systems from scratch with your own demons and hiarachies and gods and you could create powerfull majical rituals yourself and philosophies to your hearts content and it would work and if you get followers it will become even more powerfull
Then you know its all just mental props for the mind and you are following a created system, a reality that was not yours.
Asylums are full of people who dabbled with majick and demons using other peoples belief systems they could have got the same results or better by inventing their own.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

Re: Hermeticism and Magick

Barefoot Doc wrote:

Its very much based on the kabbala along with most western masonic science and majick, the question is do you assume the kabbalah to be truth or a created system from the ego of man or a system reflecting the controlling hiarchies from the astral dimension.

I was heavily into Crowley, Blavatsy, Golden Dawn and all that many years ago but after a vision on shrooms i saw all the tentacles leading to the astral prison, i had to go outside and burn all my books on the subject as a cleansing ritual. I only speak for myself here and report what happened and respect others beliefs.

Believe me you could create your own majical systems from scratch with your own demons and hiarachies and gods and you could create powerfull majical rituals yourself and philosophies to your hearts content and it would work and if you get followers it will become even more powerfull
Then you know its all just mental props for the mind and you are following a created system, a reality that was not yours.
Asylums are full of people who dabbled with majick and demons using other peoples belief systems they could have got the same results or better by inventing their own.

To discuss this properly we need to understand what kabbalah is and what magic is. To understand what they are deeply you need to be in the game to know the game. So that is your choice to play the game or not and then you can decide if it works for you. But it is always good to listen to the advice of people who have experienced this path. That's why it's good to read about those who have already achieved certain levels of being.

http://www.hermeticresearch.org wrote:

From this site you can download a file called 'A word to the wise'. This is in the download page and you need to register in order to see the downloadable files. It has tips and strategies for the 'magician' but it also has very good tips for anyone interested in spirituality in general.

Spells and rituals executed through blind faith is a major connotation of magic. I don't think this is *PROPER* magic. Magic is a science and is done with deliberation and concentration. Magic is not living in illusion. It is living in reality. It is the understanding and application of the universal laws. I think most people who do this magic 'imitation' think that it's the easy way to get something. They think that this is the simple solution to do anything and do not actually work to get it. There are no shortcuts. To go from one state of being to another consciously (not unconsiously and sporadically), without the use of drugs or 'quick fix spells' you need to work on yourself. Magic is working on yourself. Drugs and other dependencies only provide temporary experiences and can be extremely detrimental to your development because you give away your power. 

If you have read IIH you will understand that this is path is a path to sanity/purity/goodness/source energy. The people who are in asylums are not connected to source energy. They are living in the delusion of their own egos. I'm not saying that egos are bad, I'm saying they have an imbalance. Practising IIH will balance your internal energies. But this is not cheap. It takes time.

I haven't read Crowley or any of the authors above, but I've heard many times how Crowley books sound so good and 'magickal' but there is no practical value in reading Crowley. So I do not recommend reading him, but you can see for yourself. He writes well but there is so much fluff involved that there is not much wisdom to glean from it. Even though I haven't read books of the above authors, I have researched the contents of their books through book reviews, word of mouth and forum posts. It seems to me that they are not as practical as IIH.

I have not yet studied kabbalah so I do not know the full implications of it.

Regarding truth, everything you perceive and understand is only relative truth if you do not understand and internalise the universal laws. You are able to speak absolute truth only when you have mastered the universal laws. Read the section on Truth in IIH. By universal laws I mean that there are some things in 'The All' that have absolute essence and meaning in contrast to form and manifestations. This essence and form is a polarity. When you have reached the essence of all things you can speak absolute truth. This is my perspective.

"The universe is on fire with wonder, beauty, and ecstasy." - From the Undines to Humanity

10 (edited by Hildegarde 2006-07-20 17:39:19)

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My recommended steps to take when undertaking this discipline:

* The Kybalion  and 'Frabato the Magician'  are good introductory books to this field.
The Kybalion provides the philosophy and Frabato provides a fictional perspective that will show you what is possible.

*If you have time, then also read John Baines' 'Stellar Man'. It provides some theory of magic, the situation of our collective consciousness, the purposes of magic and some advice.

*Internalise the 'Words of Wisdom' file before practising IIH. This file can be downloaded from the website in my previous post.

* Initiation into Hermetics  is a VERY good starting point for starting the practise of Magic. This is truly a practical guide.

*For advice, explanations and help on IIH, go to the above websites, forums and commentaries. That is what they're for.
Rawn Clark's and William Mistele's commentaries are good ones.

"The universe is on fire with wonder, beauty, and ecstasy." - From the Undines to Humanity

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Taken from The Stellar Man...

"According to Hermetic tradition, when the Supreme Cre-
ator expelled man from Paradise, he punished him by
embedding a mechanism for hypnotic sleep in his brain in
order to make him an obedient servant in the vineyards of
the Lord. "

Sounds more like YHWH again than supreme creator.


Hmmm, well the Supreme creator does not punish, the notion that that could be, a blatant lie,
so this is some kind of distortion without a doubt.

Some of what is written here is interesting, but then we get to the inconsistencies.
Heremes, aka Thoth and his penchant for wanting to be worshipped.
One man, Moses causing the entire mess by some concantations, right.


All this information about how to bend material reality around ones finger being cloistered away among certain elite mystery schools, well do tell.
Relative truths mixed with something else entirely, shake well.

StarCat

12 (edited by Hildegarde 2006-07-21 17:58:20)

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Starcat, for me, the only thing history teaches me is the lessons I can learn from it, not what happened.
There's a lot of 'stuff' in history that has been distorted and may not be the entire truth.
That's why the practise is emphasized. Reading books and theory can only get you so far.

The Secret Mystery schools are at another vibrational level. You can go there if you reach a certain level in your development. You have to work on yourself to develop certain faculties in order to survive the conditions of those frequenices. That's what I believe.

"The universe is on fire with wonder, beauty, and ecstasy." - From the Undines to Humanity

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IN spite of the inconsistencies, I find the treatise thought provoking and as thus worthy of reading.

StarCat

14 (edited by Hildegarde 2006-07-30 01:45:26)

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Initiation into Hermetics Table of Contents

http://www.abardoncompanion.com/TOCimg1.gif
http://www.abardoncompanion.com/IIH-TOC.html

"The universe is on fire with wonder, beauty, and ecstasy." - From the Undines to Humanity

15 (edited by Hildegarde 2006-07-30 01:54:15)

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Question: >> My mother, who always was a great fan of Father Pio, told me he was able to be (was watched) at two different places at the same time and to act at both places at the same time consciously ...  I ´d like to know how this is possible ... since his "corporal" body should be like sleeping/unconscious, if he was astral projecting?? So it must be something else (if its true...)? <<

Rawn Clark wrote:

Magical Bilocation
© 2002

I don't know if this is true in Father Pio's case but from the hermetic standpoint it is quite possible and understandable.

Physical bilocation is accomplished by the Greater Self (pertaining to the Saturn sphere, the Greater Self is our *eternal* mental body), not by the temporal Individual or personal self. The Greater Self, which projects the Individualized mental body and thus the personal astral and physical bodies, simply projects a duplicate Individual mental body and
then condenses around it a matching astral and physical corpus, inserting it into the appropriate time and place.

When an adept bilocates, they will be focused at the level of their Greater Self while still functional at a physical level. In essence, the adept participates at a personal and Individual level. When in this state, it is possible to maintain concurrent conscious awareness in both bodies simultaneously, since this is a feature of the Greater Self's normal awareness. One is, in fact, in two places at the same moment with their full awareness intact. But this "splitting" or "multiplication" of awareness can only be done from the perspective of the Greater Self.

This same thing can be accomplished without the person's conscious participation at the Individual or personal level (e.g., with a non-adept who has no magical faculties, per se). This then is a more independent action stemming solely from the Greater Self and a higher need of some sort. As a consequence, the person would have no awareness of their double's actions, and vice versa.

"The universe is on fire with wonder, beauty, and ecstasy." - From the Undines to Humanity