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Dear Friends
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In the World today we see that Jews have powerful positions in the World and the gentiles in politics always favour pro-Israeli policy.
My question is simply this..........
What part overall do the Jews play in the Illuminati's overall plan?
David Icke says that the Jews are bait and are exploited by the Rothschild reptilian bloodline.
Other people such as Henry Makow have different ideas-www.savethemales.ca.
I ask this because it does seem that the richest people and powerful people are Jewish in both business and entertainment.
yours thankfully
John

2 Reply by aaronfirebrand (edited by aaronfirebrand 2004-07-22 15:32:41)

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John, study the distinction between "jews" and "zionists". A mention of "jews" may actually be a reference to zionists. See that some of the most vocal objection to the zionist agenda comes from the jewish orthodoxy. Zionism blackmails the world, as I understand it. But zionism is just a spoke in the wheel on the illuminatimobile. Jews will suffer the backlash when the whip comes down. The amazing thing is how groups and individuals devote themselves to the New Order, knowing the likelihood of them being sacrificed when they've outlived their usefulness,  their sacrifice now serving another purpose. Proof that mainstream christianity is the "devil"'s religion is how they blindly support zionism, thinking they are supporting Israel.

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Dear Aaronfirebrand
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I certainly know that Jews and Zionism are not the same thing.
I also know that alot of Moral Rabbi's take a stand against Zionism too.
My case is though that Jews individually have alot of power-alot of the big businessmen/ Hollywood directors etc are Jewish.........does the Illuminati give them money and peddle them as the most powerful to put the spotlight on them I wonder.
Yes Christian support for Zionism is an utter disgrace beyond comprehension.
yours thankfully
John

4 Reply by aaronfirebrand (edited by aaronfirebrand 2004-07-22 17:07:22)

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Large-scale economic success in this world almost always means that you've "played ball" with the powers that be. There are no music superstars without the "machine" behind them every manicured step of the way. And with the right machine behind them, anyone could be catapulted into stardom. A ground-level example is in your local masonic lodge. If you have a business and you join the masons, your business will improve (as much as it can depending on what and where it is). I know some men whose businesses were going under. They both joined the masons and, lo and behold, they began to prosper. I don't understand it exactly, but I think it's more a matter of "vouching for" than actual financial support. Take that concept to the highest reaches of business and politics to see it on a grand scale.      Now, I don't want to sound racist, but Jews are really good at some things, like the movie biz. I'd suppose that many of them sold out to illuminati interests, while some may have been coerced. Bottom line on zionists: they are the ones spoken of in scripture as "they say they are jews, but are of the synagogue of satan". The illuminati (lucifer's delta force?) use anyone, any group, any race, any philosophy, any means to accomplish their work. But it's all lies. Truth has the advantage because there's nothing to remember!

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Dear Aaronfirebrand
kind regards
I absolutely agree with you on the issue of the Freemasonic lodge.
I believe sincerely that this organisation should be abolished as it is a deliberate attempt to exalt certain people over others in a dirty and underhanded way.
Jewish control has most certainly been condemned in Hollywood.
Hollywood could have been a great beacon of light for God and morality but it has been a demonic programming tool for the Devil like much like the Devil.
Yes you are right.........The Zionist Jews are the Devils children.
yours thankfully
John

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aaronfirebrand wrote:

A ground-level example is in your local masonic lodge. If you have a business and you join the masons, you're business will improve (as much as it can depending on what and where it is). I know some men whose businesses were going under. They both joined the masons and, lo and behold, they began to prosper. I don't understand it exactly, but I think it's more a matter of "vouching for" than actual financial support.

Given that if in the "ball field" one doesn't get something without giving, what is it that the "ground-level" mason gives (or loses?) in trade for his new found prosperity?  Do they just become "more shoulders" for the masonic big boys to stand on?  What is the exchange?  Do you think there's an energetic exchange?  Something like selling ones soul to the devil?  Though that's probably a little bit of a dramatic way to look at it roll.

So many questions, huh?  I just wonder what trade off comes with that first utterance, "I am a Mason."  There's gotta be more to it than it just being a good ole boys social club.

BTW--from what I remember of a conversation I heard when I was a kid, one that I wasn't supposed to be listening to, my paternal grandfather was a 3rd degree mason.  This was something my father took issue with, this the reason why it wasn't openly discussed.  My father didn't seem to take pride in this.

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Well, there's no doubt that the Illuminati are targeting semites as a whole, meaning both Jews and Arabs. The plan seems to involve lowering the semite population beneath a certain threshold.

Toward this end, the US military is decimating Iraq and Afghanistan, maiming the Arab population with bombs, bullets, and depleted uranium, while Israel is handling the Palestinians in equally depraved ways. Together with the upcoming further expansion of the "west vs Islam" war, this will inevitably take care of the Arab half of the Illuminati agenda...

As for the semitic Jews, Zionism is clearly the Illuminati ploy to wipe them out. The Protocols of Zion were fabricated by the Illuminati to foment antisemitism, for example, and helped gather support for the persecution of Jews in Germany during WWII.

Zionism was supported by the Nazis because it got Jews out of Germany and corralled them into one spot: Israel. If you look at the big picture, it seems that the goal of Zionism is to gather semitic Jews around the world into Israel, then provoke the world into attacking and nuking Israel. And that would take care of the Jewish half of the Illuminati agenda.

Notice how, recently, Ariel Sharon advised French Jews to immediately move to Israel to escape the "wave of anti-semitism" in France. Well, that's right in line with the plan. By staging anti-semitic attacks and spreading paranoia, and additionally using Zionist political practices to engender world hatred against Israel, fearful Jews can be prodded into Israel, as the agenda demands.

It's no surprise then, that the most active proponents of Zionism aren't even semitic. They call themselves Jews, but instead of descending from the Hebrew speaking Jews of the Old Testament (the true semites), they descend from the khazars, a people who originated from southern russia and had a mass conversion to Judaism in the 700s. These later became the Jewish banking families of Europe and the leaders of Israel today.

Zionists may be "children of the devil" - but remember that most zionists aren't genetically semitic, and therefore not technically Jewish. Also, there are bloodlines within all races - asian, semitic, black, slavic - that participate in the Illuminati agenda either by birthright or by choice. Nevertheless, it's not insignificant that the Illuminati consist mostly of rich old white men, not jews. Look at the Masons for example...primarily old white men, not jews. I think at the top of the Illuminati are special 'aryan' bloodlines, and the rest are just puppets tripping over each other in their clamor for power.

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montalk wrote:

Well, there's no doubt that the Illuminati are targeting semites as a whole, meaning both Jews and Arabs. The plan seems to involve lowering the semite population beneath a certain threshold.

Toward this end, the US military is decimating Iraq and Afghanistan, maiming the Arab population with bombs, bullets, and depleted uranium, while Israel is handling the Palestinians in equally depraved ways. Together with the upcoming further expansion of the "west vs Islam" war, this will inevitably take care of the Arab half of the Illuminati agenda...

As for the semitic Jews, Zionism is clearly the Illuminati ploy to wipe them out. The Protocols of Zion were fabricated by the Illuminati to foment antisemitism, for example, and helped gather support for the persecution of Jews in Germany during WWII.

Zionism was supported by the Nazis because it got Jews out of Germany and corralled them into one spot: Israel. If you look at the big picture, it seems that the goal of Zionism is to gather semitic Jews around the world into Israel, then provoke the world into attacking and nuking Israel. And that would take care of the Jewish half of the Illuminati agenda.

Notice how, recently, Ariel Sharon advised French Jews to immediately move to Israel to escape the "wave of anti-semitism" in France. Well, that's right in line with the plan. By staging anti-semitic attacks and spreading paranoia, and additionally using Zionist political practices to engender world hatred against Israel, fearful Jews can be prodded into Israel, as the agenda demands.

It's no surprise then, that the most active proponents of Zionism aren't even semitic. They call themselves Jews, but instead of descending from the Hebrew speaking Jews of the Old Testament (the true semites), they descend from the khazars, a people who originated from southern russia and had a mass conversion to Judaism in the 700s. These later became the Jewish banking families of Europe and the leaders of Israel today.

Zionists may be "children of the devil" - but remember that most zionists aren't genetically semitic, and therefore not technically Jewish. Also, there are bloodlines within all races - asian, semitic, black, slavic - that participate in the Illuminati agenda either by birthright or by choice. Nevertheless, it's not insignificant that the Illuminati consist mostly of rich old white men, not jews. Look at the Masons for example...primarily old white men, not jews. I think at the top of the Illuminati are special 'aryan' bloodlines, and the rest are just puppets tripping over each other in their clamor for power.


Dear Montalk
kind regards
Why on Gods green Earth do the Illuminati want to nuke and destroy all of the Semites?
I cannot understand why they would want to do that?
Will all of the Khazars in Israel be escorted out before the nuking of Israel?
I have heard that the Khazars did have some kind of genetic connection to the Arabs though or my sources may be wrong.
yours thankfully
John

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John, ANY monotheistic religion is an obstacle to the establishment of THEIR monotheism. Christianity's been sufficiently corrupted, but Islam resists, so it must be destroyed. Only room for one god in this world: lucifer. The light-bearer, ushered into power by the "illuminated ones". By the way, John, some Very interesting material is presented by Eric Jon Phelps in his book Vatican Assassins (out-of-print). A google search will turn up some audio downloads, and an overview and excerpt can be found at:                                                                           http://www.vaticanassassins.org                                                                                      It answered some big questions for me regarding the physical structure of the new order. To me, it supplied the missing link between lucifer and the human societies promoting AntichristWorld.

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Dear Aaronfirebrand
kind regards
Many thanks for your link.
You and I think alike on alot of issues I just wonder why(as Montalk suggested) the Illuminati want to wipe all semites off the face of the Earth.
Personally it is a shame to think that the Roman Catholic Church plays a role in the Illuminati.
I was bought up to see the Pope as a great man and a man of God.
But then again I was also bought up in a Labour Party household and to be quite honest.........I hate Tony Blair.
yours thankfully
John

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Hi John. The first thing I said to myself years ago, when I realized that much of this information was true, was "Everything I know is Wrong!" Sort of like "Eureka!" in reverse. Oh, I recently came to understand that "semitic" actually refers to the language, not the people. So, an "anti-semite" really is against the semitic languages. This is a great conversation-stopper. I just listened to some old Eric Phelps radio shows--I've lost the links, but I urge you to locate them and listen--there is Much regarding the RC church and the jesuits which will really open your eyes.

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John, I found these on  rense.com   Skolnick touches on the "jewish-controlled" hollywood, along with some other very pertinent info:                                                                                          http://rense.com/general54/nmdndi.htm                                 http://rense.com/general54/dict.htm

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Dear Aaronfirebrand
kind regards
Thank you for you link.
It is much appreciated and I will enjoy reading it.
I shall give you my views on the article at a later date.
yours thankfully
John

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Moralman wrote:

Why on Gods green Earth do the Illuminati want to nuke and destroy all of the Semites? I cannot understand why they would want to do that?

Probably because jews/arabs are a hindrance to those in the Illuminati who require their elimination or reduction from the gene pool. They were obstacles to Hitler's plan to breed an aryan master race, and therefore he sought to liquidate them. Supposedly, Hitler's plan was just a prelude - a foreshadowing, preview, test - for what is potentially yet to come. Instead of Nazis, we have hyperdimensional negative aliens. Instead of aryan master race, we have alien-human hybrids. Instead of WWII, we have an overt alien invasion. And so on. For some reason, jews/arabs are targets of both nazi and alien agendas...

The only reasonable explanation I've come across regarding why jews are targeted is that  the hebrew-semitic bloodlines carry some genetic encoding that will become activated around/after the dimensional transition. This, according to the Cassiopaeans. Perhaps this bloodline is the same that King David, Solomon, and Jesus were part of. What this activation entails, I don't know, except that it would activate certain behavior, missions, actions, frequencies that would prove dangerous and destabilizing to the Illuminati/Reptilian agenda for soul-domination and interbreeding of humanity after the transition. So by eliminating as many as they can before the transition, there will be fewer to activate thereafter or further propagate their genetics. That's as best as I can understand it.

However, if this really comes down to some "bloodline of light" originally present among the Hebrews of the Old Testament, and passed on to modern day generations, then genetic intermixing and divergence means there are MANY today who carry it and aren't even jewish or arab, as far as they know.

I'm thinking, and this is only speculation, that Judaism (more so than other religions) was either created or altered via time-travel to ensure that these genetics remain herded together for eventual mass-elimination. Who knows, maybe that's why Judaism is adamant against marrying outside the religion or converting to other faiths. I think that the zionist agenda is the final touch to a hyperdimensional plan initiated thousands of years ago to eliminate those genetically destined to pose an obstacle to the reptilian post-transition conquest.

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This gives new meaning to "the chosen people", Tom. You present some very interesting speculations, as always. When you consider that the jewish lineage is passed through the maternal, and that many jewesses marry outside their race, and that custom has been for a wife to take the husband's surname, there may be a LOT of jews who have no idea they are jews. And likewise, a lot of people with jewish surnames aren't really jewish at all.