1 (edited by Auendove 2006-06-01 04:33:04)

Topic: Shame on Black Jack, MO!!!

http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/story. … p;sc=ustop

Marry or get out, US town tells unwed parents



WASHINGTON (AFP) - A small American town is facing accusations of seeking to drive unmarried couples with children out of town on grounds they do not fit the local definition of a family.

The brewing controversy in Black Jack, a town of 6,800 in the central state of Missouri, began unfolding earlier this year when Olivia Shelltrack and Fondray Loving were denied an occupancy permit after moving into a four-bedroom house they had purchased.

Local officials told the couple that the fact they were not married and had three children, one from Shelltrack's previous relationship, did not fit the town's definition of "family".

A Black Jack ordinance prohibits more than three people from living together in a single family home unless they are related by "blood, marriage or adoption".

The couple were then left with the option of getting married, packing their bags and leaving town, or putting up a fight, which is what they decided to do.

"I think the city wants to send a clear message that they don't want children born out of wedlock," Shelltrack told AFP in a phone interview. "It has become a moral issue for them.

"They see family in a certain way and that's the only acceptable way."

Shelltrack, 31, said she and Loving, her partner of 13 years, never imagined when they moved to Black Jack from Minnesota in January that a legal nightmare awaited them.

"We though the occupancy permit was a housing code issue, that an inspector would come by and check the house," Shelltrack said. "But we figured something was wrong when they asked for the children's birth certificates and a marriage certificate."

She said the family has received a lot of support from neighbors and local residents, many of whom are baffled by what they consider an archaic law.

Sheldon Stock, the town's attorney, told AFP there were no plans to evict the couple after the City Council earlier this month rejected a measure that would have changed the definition of a family to include unmarried couples with two or more children.

Nonetheless, he said, Shelltrack and Loving would have to abide by the law or face fines and a court battle.

"The city intends to enforce its ordinances and we think under the current state of the law that we have every right to do so," he said.

Stock noted that numerous other cities in Missouri have similar occupancy codes, but he acknowledged that the majority don't enforce them.

"Everybody in their occupancy codes has a definition of family," he said. "Somewhere you draw a line and unfortunately in this case they (Shelltrack and Loving) don't fall on the right side of the line."

The couple have taken their case to the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), which is considering filing a lawsuit against the city on their behalf.

The US Department of Housing and Urban Development is also conducting an investigation.

Anthony Rothert, the legal director for the ACLU in eastern Missouri, told AFP that some 10 unmarried couples with children had been denied occupancy permits in recent years in Black Jack and were essentially driven out of town.

One unmarried couple that owns a house in the mainly Catholic town and that recently had a second child is facing the same fate, Rothert said.

"I find this ordinance very bizarre," he said, adding that the city's argument that the law, adopted in 1985, was aimed at preventing overcrowding did not hold up.

"If Olivia and Fondray were married and had 20 kids they could live in the house," he said. "I think this is all about the city trying to impose its moral values on its citizens."

Ya think? roll

As I was reading through this article I thought that the Black Jack town ordinance must be one of those old relic type of laws that dated back to the days of prohibition (or even the dinosaurs wink ), but 1985 just isn't all that long ago. At first I thought about posting it on the Humor and Fun forum, because it's just soooo laughable, yet out of respect for those already "driven out of town," and the challenge ahead of Shelltrack and Loving, I thought better than to do as much. I'm sure it's not so ha-ha funny to the families the ordinance has and is deleteriously affected/ing.

I'm not really surprised by what's going on in Black Jack, but I am....http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/traurig/sad-smiley-066.gif

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

Re: Shame on Black Jack, MO!!!

Gawd, who'd want to live there anyway?  They'd probably burn me at the stake!  And I'm not even "living in sin"!

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Hey ya Soloflecks,

Ya know, after I posted this I wondered how they dealt with single-parent families...do they get the same type of shunning treatment for not being married? I mean, a single-parent family is not the "ideal" picture of family life either.

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

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With a name like Fondray Loving, this could be a foreign/ racial thing, too.  It's just easier for them to say it's about a city ordinance than race.

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I heard a rumour that the factions in the US wants to stop parents home schooling their kids and force them into state schools which does fit in with NWO agenda. That will make it very hard to refuse vaccinations for them and keep them away from the Shrubs no child left undrugged policy.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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I find it ironic that a town named "Black Jack" is trying to deal out any kind of morality.  While reading the article, I thought that that particular "ordinance" must be one of those old, 19th century laws that no one bothered to change (like being arrested for leaving your horse in town, etc).... I was shocked when it said this particular "law" was adopted in 1985!  Ridiculous!

"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." ~ Mark Twain

Re: Shame on Black Jack, MO!!!

I was already thinkin you talked about jack black (not sure if thats a real name or if i'm completely mis-remebering or sumthing) But that one "rock" artist who was in king-kong as well tongue

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Just yet another example of people wanting to impose their beliefs on others and dictate what others can and cannot do.

In the US, it dates back all the way to the beginning.  Puritans came here to escape this kind of thing, only to turn around and become the ones who oppress and dictate.

Hipocracy at its best.

I say people should take their nose out of others' business and put it back on your face.

This is no time for the righteous
Only the wicked survive
Bake up a batch of the Yellow Cake
Bake up a batch of the lies
- - - - -[ Yellow Cake - Ministry - Rio Grande Blood (2006)

Re: Shame on Black Jack, MO!!!

Brings to mind Harper Valley PTA!  Anyone old enough to remember that song?  Hey, Hkelukka, when I saw the thread I saw Jack Black, because I'd just watched that movie! 

Harper valley pta


I wanna tell you all a story 'bout a Harper Valley widowed wife
Who had a teenage daughter who attended Harper Valley Jr. High
Well her daughter came home one afternoon and didn't even stop to play
And she said, "Mom, I got a note here from the Harper Valley P. T. A."

Well the note said: "Mrs. Johnson, you're wearin' your dresses way too high.
It's reported you've been drinkin' and a-runnin' 'round with men and goin' wild.
And we don't believe you oughta be a-bringin' up your little girl this way."
And it was signed by the Secretary, Harper Valley P. T. A.

Well it happened that the P. T. A. was gonna meet that very afternoon
And they were sure surprised when Mrs. Johnson wore her miniskirt into the room
And as she walked up to the blackboard I can still recall the words she had to say
She said, "I'd like to address this meeting of the Harper Valley P. T. A.

Well there's Bobby Taylor sittin' there and seven times he's asked me for a date.
And Mrs. Taylor sure seems to use a lot of ice whenever he's away.
And Mr. Baker can you tell us why your secretary had to leave this town
And shouldn't Widow Jones be told to keep her window shades all pulled completely down

Well Mr. Harper couldn't be here 'cause he stayed too long at Kelly's bar again
And if you'll smell Shirley Thompson's breath you'll find she's had a little nip of gin
And then you have the nerve to tell me you think that as a mother i'm not fit
Well this is just a little Peyton Place and you're all Harper Valley hypocrites"

No, I wouldn't put you on because it really did, it happened just this way

The day my mama socked it to the Harper Valley P. T. A.
The day my mama socked it to the Harper Valley P. T. A.

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Soloflecks wrote:

Brings to mind Harper Valley PTA!

OH...MY...GAWD!!!!...:lol: lol lol

Yeah, I know the song. In fact, when my friends and I used to play make-believe singing entertainers (setting up a make shift stage and all) this was one of the favs to sing.

Soloflecks...if only you could see this huggest grin on my face...it is way, WAY bigger than this >>> big_smile .

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
------
If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

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Hope they win the lawsuit and have a grand christmas or celebration.

Good grief!!!!!!!!!  A friggin piece of paper takes precident over the glaringly obvious........UGH  roll

If $$$ were not a problem, adopting the Chinese girls before they were aborted or euthanasized would certainly be a statement, Yeah???

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