1 (edited by z3n3rg 2006-05-02 10:37:00)

Topic: Love and Light: The Practical Guide

Just some thoughts going around in my head.  All comments are welcome.

The woowoo monster has certainly twisted these concepts to get people to basically do nothing.  The new-age movement is more like the new-age inaction.  It's a level jumping without the necessary steps in between.  Just give a higher level concept without the necessary steps and you turn would be fighters into ohm'ing vegetables.

Light:  Simply put, light is knowledge.  The void is infinite intelligence without putting that knowledge in action.  It's the Creator unmanifested.  Once that intelligence is put into action it lights up the void and becomes what is commonly referred to as existence.  Light is the knowledge in action.  The woowoo monster has disconnected light from knowledge.  "Just concentrate on the light", it says.  No.  Gain the knowledge, use it and that is your light.  Light is the manifestation of the higher intellectual center.

Love:  Love is the opposite of fear.  Ok, then just suppress or ignore fear and that's love?  The woowoo monster would like us to think so.  But no.  Take fear and add knowledge (light).  Use that knowledge to gain understanding.  Take that understanding to 'see' and accept things as they are.  The understanding leads to the insight that allows us to know and accept reality for what it is.  Put that understanding to use in everyday situations and wisdom is gained.  Wisdom is the diamond that is formed when understanding is put under the pressure of our everyday life.  Wisdom leads to an appreciation of all the differing faces, aspects and distortions of the Creator.  The appreciation is gained due to the realization that all the distortions are meant to help us reveal (uncover) the God within us.  The realization is that the whole of existence is out to help you.  The appreciation leads to love in ever deeping levels of understanding and wisdom.

Appreciation:  Recognition of the quality, value, significance, or magnitude of people and things.

Recognition (Synonyms):  admiration, aesthetic sense, affection, appraisal, assessment, attraction, awareness, cognizance, commendation, comprehension, enjoyment, esteem, grasp, high regard, knowledge, liking, love, perception, realization, recognition, regard, relish, respect, responsiveness, sensibility, sensitiveness, sensitivity, sympathy, understanding, valuation

Light = the usage of the higher intellectual center

Love = the usage of the higher emotional center

The 'seeing' third eye is the use of these two centers combined.

E-motion = Energy in motion

Energy in motion is directed by thought.

Distorted thoughts produce negative emotions.  Undistorted thoughts produce positive emotions.

Distorted is subjective.  Undistorted is objective.

Love is appreciation in motion directed by knowledge (light).

Fear is apprehensiveness in motion directed by ignorance (obliviousness, unawareness).

Love and Light is the spiritual in motion; in action.  The woowoo monster has subverted these and disconnected them from reality thus producing inaction and ineffectiveness.

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Very good, I agree ! http://xthost.info/soarte/pictus/thmbup.gif

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I have heard in martial arts there is a thing called winning without fighting....
In the duality-polarity battle the trick from the extradimensions is to keep everyone engaged and fighting things, going in circles, unaware, believing. When a certain critical mass in consciousness is reached by a certain number within the human kingdom, I suspect something very different happens. Right now many are finding ways to opt out of the cyclical and circular games that have become timeworn. Things are changing even now, More later.

StarCat

4 (edited by montalk 2006-05-02 18:16:16)

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Excellent set of concepts, thanks for writing this up.

z3n3rg wrote:

Light = the usage of the higher intellectual center

Love = the usage of the higher emotional center

That makes sense, and implies that some New Age paradigms have "downgraded" these to:

Light = visualization through the lower intellectual center

Love = expressing the positive half of the lower emotional center

Here are some toughies to ponder:

How is knowledge associated with the lower intellectual center different from knowledge of the higher intellectual center? Do both qualify as Light or just the latter?

How does STS love differ from STO love? Do both come from the higher emotional center?

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Anyone unfamiliar with the lower and higher centers can read about them here. Good quote from Mouravieff there:

Mouravieff wrote:

As no direct link exists between the lower intellectual centre and the higher intellectual centre, the intellectual culture which is the almost exclusive basis of our education cannot lead us to higher levels of consciousness. In spite of the refinement of his intelligence, no matter how extensive or deep the knowledge he acquires, exterior man remains enclosed within the circle of reason. Escape is possible only via the heart; that is why the cultivation of our emotional life dominates the attention, the pre-occupations and the obligatory efforts demanded by esoteric teachings.

Damn straight, Boris. I think the woo-woo monster has a twin companion called the woe-woe monster that looks down on Love-n-Light to the point of rejecting anything genuinely to do with the heart as being too lovey-dovey, all the while wallowing in negativity under the pretense of objectivity.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

5 (edited by kljsadfhklj 2006-05-02 20:01:34)

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z3n3rg, you're good.

montalk, since when do STS' love?

Who are this woo-woo woe-woe, anyway? Are they like Tom and Jerry or something?

The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world.

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kljsadfhklj wrote:

montalk, since when do STS' love?

As long as I can remember, the strongest ones love themselves the most.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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But if they truly loved who they truly are, they'd be STO. I think.

The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world.

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StarCat wrote:

I have heard in martial arts there is a thing called winning without fighting....
In the duality-polarity battle the trick from the extradimensions is to keep everyone engaged and fighting things, going in circles, unaware, believing.

+- like the uroboros ?   
http://xthost.info/soarte/pictus/uroboros.gif

montalk wrote:

How does STS love differ from STO love? Do both come from the higher emotional center?

May we say STS love +- = obsession ?

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StarCat wrote:

I have heard in martial arts there is a thing called winning without fighting....
In the duality-polarity battle the trick from the extradimensions is to keep everyone engaged and fighting things, going in circles, unaware, believing. When a certain critical mass in consciousness is reached by a certain number within the human kingdom, I suspect something very different happens. Right now many are finding ways to opt out of the cyclical and circular games that have become timeworn. Things are changing even now, More later.

Agreed.  A call was made to help Earth and many members of humanity.  The dark forces would not leave without a fight.  That's where the "fighting" comes in.  When that critical mass is reached then we may celebrate.  Things are changing and it's growing exponentially within each of us.  I won't quit until there are no more calls for help.

"And did you exchange
A walk on part in the war
For a lead role in a cage?"
Pink Floyd:  Wish You Were Here

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Pictus wrote:

May we say STS love +- = obsession ?

Now that's what I'm saying.

The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world.

11 (edited by wandering1 2006-05-02 21:14:58)

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z3n3rg wrote:

"And did you exchange
A walk on part in the war
For a lead role in a cage?"
Pink Floyd:  Wish You Were Here

Right on.  This is one of my favorite lyrics.  Also, I see this as a war that can be won without getting dragged into fighting.

kljsadfhklj wrote:

But if they truly loved who they truly are, they'd be STO. I think.

I think that I see what you are saying.  I view STS behavior as stemming from a narrow definition of self.

There is an inability to see other selves as self.

It's like running arround saying "I am a child of God" without realizing that everyone else is also a child of God.

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montalk wrote:

Here are some toughies to ponder:

How is knowledge associated with the lower intellectual center different from knowledge of the higher intellectual center? Do both qualify as Light or just the latter?

How does STS love differ from STO love? Do both come from the higher emotional center?

According to my understanding:

STS can function through higher intellectual center as well as higher emotional center but choose to divert energy from the higher emotional center to the lower emotional center as well as the sexual center.

Love is an attractive force which can be expressed through any center.  To be an adept one need only perfect expression of love through one center.  To be a master, one must achieve balance between all centers.

It is not for us to understand love, but simply to make space for it.

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wandering1 wrote:
z3n3rg wrote:

"And did you exchange
A walk on part in the war
For a lead role in a cage?"
Pink Floyd:  Wish You Were Here

Right on.  This is one of my favorite lyrics.  Also, I see this as a war that can be won without getting dragged into fighting.

I'm getting a sense that my definition of "fighting" is not the same one used as others here.  StarCat mentions that fighting things is a trap (which I agree at a certain level).  I mentioned "war" in another post and it triggered something.  You mention we can win the war without fighting.

The definition of "fight" that I use is To strive vigorously and resolutely.  When I say "fight", I'm talking about striving with vigor and resolve.  When I say "war" i'm talking about striving with vigor and resolve for an extended period.  And to strive is to endeavor.  It's to take action and exert effort.  It's not about suppression of any part of the creator.  It's not about attempting to gain power over an adversary.  I'm not sure how each person is taking the terms so I explained as best I could without that information.


Montalk and everyone else:  I'll respond tomorrow.  Need to get some sleep.

14 (edited by wandering1 2006-05-02 22:55:56)

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z3n3rg wrote:

The definition of "fight" that I use is To strive vigorously and resolutely.  When I say "fight", I'm talking about striving with vigor and resolve.  When I say "war" i'm talking about striving with vigor and resolve for an extended period.  And to strive is to endeavor.

Very good.  Using those definitions, that sounds good to me.

15 (edited by z3n3rg 2006-05-03 08:00:08)

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wandering1 wrote:
z3n3rg wrote:

The definition of "fight" that I use is To strive vigorously and resolutely.  When I say "fight", I'm talking about striving with vigor and resolve.  When I say "war" i'm talking about striving with vigor and resolve for an extended period.  And to strive is to endeavor.

Very good.  Using those definitions, that sounds good to me.

I was thinking about this when I was going to sleep.  I think I came up with a good way of explaining it.

Using dictionary.com we have two main definitions of fight.

1.  To attempt to harm or gain power over an adversary
2.  To strive vigorously and resolutely

3d/4d STS uses the first definition.  STO would use the second.  For instance, I am not fighting (#1) against 3d/4d STS.  I am fighting (#2) for myself and others that I may be able to assist.

From the STS perspective they would view me as fighting (#1) against them.  And without realizing the difference in definition an STO candidate might view STS as fighting against them.  As I stated in the first post, "the whole of existence is out to help you".  So I can't view STS as fighting (#1) against me although I do realize that is how they view it.  Nor can I fight (#1) against STS.  I can only fight (#2) for myself and those that ask.