Topic: Experiencing probing of the Others

I have read similar stories to my experiences here, but have decided to start another thread due to a specific similarity of these two very different experiences with Others. Both involved Others getting information from me though forms of probing.

Experience One:  I went to a healer in my area who is beginning to get a larger worldwide recognition. I went to hear her give a talk, not do healing. Yes, she is excessively talented.  To shorten this experience here, I will say that out of about 50 people in her audience, she signaled me out by repeating several times, "Are you sure we do not know each other?"  We had never met.  She "is guided" with a presence she calls "Father" who she says directs her healing abilitites.  Now, later in the talk, she did demonstrations with her aura and did what she called bi-locating.  However, what I saw stopped me in my tracks!  How to best describe it?  Well, this presence had engulfed her.  I was aware of panels on its skin surface sort of like aligator skin, but knew that between the panels were sensors which were feeding this being information. The head was very lizard like, but I felt absolutely no fear.  Afterwards, she asked all to state exactly what they saw. She looked directly at me for an answer and ignored all others!  I played the Brier Rabbit routine and laid low, not saying one thing.  However, my point is that I had sensed something about her, and she knew it! I was uncomfortable, but not afraid at all. I really was not afraid. I will state again I am SURE the spaces between panels in the skin I saw had sensors for gathering information.

Experience Two:  I  attended physician appointment of my mother along with sister. They knew him from previous dealings, but I had just met him. Both sister and mother are intuitive and it processes of course within the level of their consciousness.  Physician came into the room.  He was about 6", black hair peppered with grey slicked back so taht I was not aware of each hair.  Looked like one unit.  I don't remember specifics about his eyes, but they seemed to pierce and were odd..dark.  He was a bit overweight. I was very aware that either he did not have an aura, or it was lifeless.  Although mother was the patient, he seemed to zero right in at me with his attention immediately upon entering the room. I was uncomfortable at first, but it did not last as I knew I had the ability to protect myself with my knowledge, will, and higher power.  He then started talking about how physicians need to recognize the intuitive nature of the clients.  I realize he had done an "assessment" of some sort while he was staring at me for intuition converstations always get my attention.  Briefly, I let my guard down, for any physician who talks of intuition gets my attention due to the unusual nature of the two being connected in the allopathic world.  He kept staring at me on and off and I mean staring with a probing feeling.  He never read mother's chart.  He rarely looked at her. He told her incorrect information. Sister was doing the talking and he was looking on and off at me, never at her.  This was way beyond odd since I said very little but was thinking a whole lot!  Then, he "offered" to give me medication samples to help a twitch on my neck...a med I never would have taken in a million years which he said was given to people who have brain seisures.  My Word!  (The neck twitch stopped later when I took off the uncomfortable necklace I had on.)  Not only was it not appropriate for him to do this physician-wise, I think I was being assessed and in danger if I had taken his meds.  In fact, I am sure of it. When we left, sister had thought his "trying to help me" was good.  I said it was over the mark and there was nothing good about it...I was not his patient, he crossed a boundary and I was not pleased he was mother's doctor. She got offended, almost like she had been "convinced" or something about his good nature previously when she met him. Now, in their own way, they each "felt" something wrong.  Sister (history of alcohol and drugs) said, "I think he is a recovering alcoholic."  Mother (fundamentalist type of Christian) said, "I think he has compulsive problems for he talked to me about religion last visit to the point where I was not comfortable." 

I am not afraid of either of these Beings I saw. However, it concerns me about the level of probing I saw for I had not been aware of this before. The second experience involved a man in a position of power, for he is well known in the area for being an expert in his field. And an offer of dangerous mind altering meds was dangerous!

Any comments?  I am completely new at this and would truly like more information.  I know there is sensing from Others as I read auras and gather information myself.  However, to have one of them offer me meds which alter my brain is WAY over the mark with me.  I found that to be dangerous!

Are there any metaphysical laws about Others and our free will? What about all these people out there who are not aware of Others?   I really would like some comments.

Re: Experiencing probing of the Others

Ok well then I feel somewhat compelled to share this story.  It's not mine, but I have no reason not to believe it.  Here is the experience of two acquiantances.  I think it happened several months ago:

A man and his wife go into a restaurant for some food.  While sitting in the dining room, the man begins to notice another group of people that appear to be overshadowed by a reptilian-type energy, much as you described.

He starts looking around the room and discovers that somewhere between a half and two-thirds of the people there are "Lizzies" as well.  He watches as one of "them" disguised as a busboy pushes a cart around the restaurant, only stopping at those tables with his own kind.  As far as I am aware the tables were not mixed between the two kinds.

Dumbfounded and incredulous, he continues to sit there and watch the scene.  As the "busboy" passes by, he looks right at the man and says "We know you can see us.  But we don't care.  Nobody would believe you anyway."

When they get in the car, his wife turns to him and proceeds to tell him everything he just saw, even though he hadn't mentioned a word about his experience to her.

Think that's weird?  Here's the kicker:

The man is blind.

It is not for us to understand love, but simply to make space for it.

3 (edited by kljsadfhklj 2006-04-29 15:58:02)

Re: Experiencing probing of the Others

Hi, there. Something just popped up in my mind after reading this.

I wasn't really aware of OP's 'till a few days ago, so I can't tell much, but since I got aware of'em I try to 'check' everyone I talk to, so here it goes:

There's a rather important guy at the place I practice yoga who was giving a lecture. The guy's an OP. I didn't want to go, but my cousin asked me to go with her, so I did.

I always knew there was something wrong about the guy, but I knew it with my heart, not my brains. So when I saw him, before the lecture, I 'scanned' him to confirm what I had in mind. He shaked everyone's hand but, strangely, ignored me.

The lecture went normal. After the lecture while everyone was getting up and going away he stood at me, looking in my eyes, for like half a minute. It was like the snakeheads plugged at him. I looked back at him, but he didn't take his eyes off me, like a normal person would. So someone called his name, the 'somethings' unplugged, and he went for the one who's called him.

Really strange.


By the way, my dad, an OP, who never calls me, called me twice while I was typing this. The call's subject was "I've got nothing better to do, Allan, so I decided to bother you".

The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world.

Re: Experiencing probing of the Others

Now is the time to teach them STO.  They may or may not be OPs.  But, it's our duty (for those seeking to be in Service to Others), to be "Angels" (4d STO level) and teach them the positive.  Show them love, acceptance, appreciation and all the finer energies of the STO path.  Treat them as you would anyone else but don't let them attach to you with negative energy.  Brush off any attempts they might have at that and show them the opposite.  For instance, the guy at the yaga class.  I would have gone up to with 'filled with love', shake his hand and offer some kind words.  Smile and be friendly.  They look to the more advanced for guidance.  That guidance can either be from the positive or negative.  Let's show them the positive side.  Never think of them as less than you.  Never think they are hopelessly under the influence of negative forces.  Just be true to yourself in your direction and offer that vantage point to them.  The positive guys (4d STO) need our help down here as much as we need their help.  We can offer positive influence directly as theirs has to be more subtle.  Once we can open the doorway with that positive energy then their work will be easier.  Seek out the opportunities for this.  Watch the positive energy spread and rejoice.

Re: Experiencing probing of the Others

An OP is not much a problem per se, now that I am aware of them!
But they tend to be  directly manipulated by higher STS, here lies the danger.
I am learning and started to see the patterns, I am tired of them, I do not
want any contact and when is necessary is always with the least contact
and energy expended.
Any interaction is lead with respect but with a ‘tight iron fist’ and caution to
not fall again into there traps, as I did in the past.
I know that the unaware souled can be manipulated too.

Directly I only care and expend my time with souled ones.
Expend time with OP = time lost  = or “play with fire, you may be burned"
There are lots of souled in need of help, any help in any situation
is only for them, none for OPs.

Bye, Pictus

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Re: Experiencing probing of the Others

I'm sure everyone will have their own way of dealing with these things.  This is how I do it.

The whole problem with the idea of OPs is I can't actually tell at first glance.  A souled being may just have shut down due to overwhelming circumstances and thus "look" like an OP.  I know I've been that way at times.  The thousand yard stare and so forth.  So what if it is a souled being that just shut-out the world and went on autopilot.  A kind word or gesture may be the thing they need for a little jump start;  a spark as it were.

Reading all I can about OPs from as many sources as possible I've come to the conclusion that I won't be able to tell with first impressions.  Long term relationships would require much more scrutiny (of course) but I don't feel the same for the normal encounters.  So I'll treat all those people the same.  If more encounters ensue then that person will reveal themselves to me and I can go from there.  Otherwise, I may run the risk of mislabelling and miss a chance to help someone.

7 (edited by Pictus 2006-04-30 16:04:12)

Re: Experiencing probing of the Others

You are right, but I do not care if I mislabelling.
And I am sure that it will happen a lot of times, but for me
now is something like “better safe than sorry".

Bye, Pictus

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Re: Experiencing probing of the Others

I understand.  I only offer words from my perspective.  The OPs don't bother me at all.  If they are OPs or STS-souled they can only get my energy if I choose to create the coarser e-motions.  They are not going to tap the finer e-motions since STS doesn't feed off those.

And by interacting with all people the same (for normal encounters) then I can test myself continuously which to me is not a waste of time but part of my self-assigned lessons.

Re: Experiencing probing of the Others

I guess what I really mean to say is, I consider your perspective (as well as everyone else's) just as valid as mine.  The words are not meant to say you are mislabelling or you are doing anything.  The words are from me - for me, however, I must give my true perspective or I'm not giving at all.  I don't want anyone to feel my posts are in any way judging someone.  That's why I try to use I instead of you when offering my perspective.  It's also the way I view everyone else's posts no matter how the post may come off sounding.  I did use our in the first post but it's really how I talk to myself.  I need to steer away from using the encompassing pronouns though so the post doesn't sound like I'm trying to do more than just offer my perspective.  Just more lessons for me.

Re: Experiencing probing of the Others

English is not my main language, thanks for explain your
meanings and also rightful ones.

Bye, Pictus

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