16 Reply by PleiadianHealer

  • PleiadianHealer
  • Guest

Re: Earth Angels Questionaire

lyra wrote:

Well, can only speak for myself, but, I don't go around actively looking for Op's, hybrids, robotoids, etc. or  fail to recognize positive people, being all unbalanced that way.    People, possibly you too, make the mistake of thinking that I go around looking for OPs and the like, probably because I have an article about "Working for the puppet people...."   so, it's understandable, but even though I've written about it, doesn't mean I actually actively look for it in others....nor does it mean that I don't recognize the good ones and those with angelic qualities.  They're usually pretty obvious.  You can feel 'em a mile away.

Anyway, stepping aside now....

I'm amazed lyra, at how you insist on only seeing the negatives in my posts, when will you see the postives???   I do mean well, but boy you love to grind people down, it's like you really like it.

I was trying to get across a point of using inner awareness to delve through this and you just won't acknowledge it.   Oh well, I tried, remember I wish to reach a larger audience here.   I keep repeating that using your HS is a great idea, it's amazing how many just side-step this and continue to run on, into endless discussion.  Wouldn't it be great if more people got into this?

17 Reply by PleiadianHealer

  • PleiadianHealer
  • Guest

Re: Earth Angels Questionaire

whywhywhy,
The only thing I can say as to why this does not click for you, and I hope you can take this properly is that you're not going deep enough.   I can't help but think you just gloss over some things and toss them aside.   I would have too, when I first saw this, but something lead me deeper and low and behold there was more there than I thought.

I know you have the scientific mind, and that's great, but somethings need to be probed using intuition.  I bet IF you had a little chat with your HS you might get some interesting answers, ones you never expected, about this particular topic.

So it's OK if you don't do this, I'm not forcing anyone, just brining out a point.   It you don't like the book,... then just forget about it.   But intuitive depth here is the whole enchilada.

  • From: Brazil
  • Registered: 2006-02-11

Re: Earth Angels Questionaire

The questionnaire looks like a kind of a  joke… hehehe

Bye, Pictus

--------------------
http://pictus.co.nr

Pictus's Website

  • From: LA
  • Registered: 2005-09-18

Re: Earth Angels Questionaire

PleiadianHealer wrote:

whywhywhy,
The only thing I can say as to why this does not click for you, and I hope you can take this properly is that you're not going deep enough.   I can't help but think you just gloss over some things and toss them aside.   I would have too, when I first saw this, but something lead me deeper and low and behold there was more there than I thought.

I know you have the scientific mind, and that's great, but somethings need to be probed using intuition.  I bet IF you had a little chat with your HS you might get some interesting answers, ones you never expected, about this particular topic.

So it's OK if you don't do this, I'm not forcing anyone, just brining out a point.   It you don't like the book,... then just forget about it.   But intuitive depth here is the whole enchilada.

PH,

Not really trying to invalidate the book for I am certain there are some good ideas embedded in it.  My only concern was the questionnaire and I think I explain my reasoning earlier.  My other concern is what good is it going to do me if I ask my Higher Self which of the four categories I am?  I am not trying to be sarcastic but actually asking you the question.  Don’t we know who we are already?  Or, better yet, don’t we have an idea of who we are?  Everybody at NR (most everybody) knows the answer to this question……………The real issue is, have we realized ourselves?  For the majority here (>99%, I suspect) the answer is “NO” .   To me it is more profound and reasonable to ask The Higher Self for guidance to reach the final goal.  Whether we are angels, wise people, jerks, etc… seems to be irrelevant.  Perhaps we may be talking about the same thing……..are we?

  • lyra
  • lyra
  • Naked Emperor Pointer Outer
  • Offline
  • From: my own private idaho
  • Registered: 2004-03-25

Re: Earth Angels Questionaire

whywhywhy wrote:

When I first read the questionnaire I could not believe how absurd it was...............This is the reason I failed the test..........To make a point!  I kept reading the groups of questions repeating to myself-----These profiles don't make a lick of sense!  How presumptuous it is for someone to come up with 4-5 questions to determine what kind of angel or whatever we are!  This reminds of the aura test.....

I know you do not need my support to make your point but you have it anyways!

Barefoot Doc wrote:

I have to admit i was  thinking exactly the same thing but did not post because i assumed this was just a "bit of fun" but i agree 100%.

Thanks.  wink

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
-----
"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
-----

lyra's Website

21 Reply by PleiadianHealer

  • PleiadianHealer
  • Guest

Re: Earth Angels Questionaire

whywhywhy wrote:

Not really trying to invalidate the book for I am certain there are some good ideas embedded in it.  My only concern was the questionnaire and I think I explain my reasoning earlier.  My other concern is what good is it going to do me if I ask my Higher Self which of the four categories I am?  I am not trying to be sarcastic but actually asking you the question.  Don’t we know who we are already?  Or, better yet, don’t we have an idea of who we are?  Everybody at NR (most everybody) knows the answer to this question……………The real issue is, have we realized ourselves?  For the majority here (>99%, I suspect) the answer is “NO” .   To me it is more profound and reasonable to ask The Higher Self for guidance to reach the final goal.  Whether we are angels, wise people, jerks, etc… seems to be irrelevant.  Perhaps we may be talking about the same thing……..are we?

I don't want to take the time to really pick this apart.   I know I'm wasting my time, when I say ANY converstation is worth it with your HS.    But of course, anyone who seldom if at all has these conversations, would disagree with that.

A conversation with your HS WOULD lead to self-realization IF you started out with a simple question as to which group you fit into (angel,fairy, elemental... etc).   I'm sure your HS would greatly appreciate it.

If fact, I would not doubt your HS is speaking through me now, trying to get through to you!!

Lee,.... your logic on this one is faultly, it's not gonna roll there buddy.    Sorry to say, the old "why should I bother with convo's not very profound with my HS"... is just silly!

It's amazing how much comes out in simple exchanges like this, but then again, I almost expected it.   This is a hot topic and it DOES need to be discussed.   Dealing with the HS should be one of the #1 things people are doing these days.... but of course so few actually do this.   

Nice try.... but your argument just doesn't hold any water.... you're making me laugh here!

22 Reply by PleiadianHealer

  • PleiadianHealer
  • Guest

Re: Earth Angels Questionaire

Xenopope wrote:

Yea my friend answered yes to the elemental category so I'm trying to figure out what kind he was and such. And another friend of mine I'm pretty sure is an incarnated fairie and yet another I know personally to most likely be an incarnated 'starseed' from the Pleiades.

Hey great... keep up the good work!

  • From: LA
  • Registered: 2005-09-18

Re: Earth Angels Questionaire

PleiadianHealer wrote:

Nice try.... but your argument just doesn't hold any water.... you're making me laugh here!

I really was not trying to make you laugh, but at least something positive came out of this internet exchange.  I agree with you, it would be a waste of time to continue this exchange.  Also, no matter what you think if you are indeed that connected with your Higher Self I am extremely happy for you..................And I am not laughing as I am stating this.  I really mean it!

Regards,

Lee

24 Reply by PleiadianHealer

  • PleiadianHealer
  • Guest

Re: Earth Angels Questionaire

Lee,
Thanks for the exchange.   I really do appreciate your input since it did give me a change to get into all this.   To take this a step further I wish someone had some easy-to-do exercises that could be posted here so that people who have not thought to ask their HS for help would be encouraged to do so.   I can recommend a book or two, but I doubt many would check them out. 

Montalk is very lucky to have ear ringings to tip him off to the HS's nudges.  I'm not sure there is a way to develop this.  But you don't have to wait for the ear ringings, in fact, I hardly get them but DO have all sorts of "intuitive knowings", which have gotten much louder recently.    I would have to confess I do work on my inner abilities almost every day, so until someone really gets into this, I'm not sure how to really have it happen.

I only say this to encourage others to try this out.   I'm not trying to grandstand or get into making myself popular or whatever.    There is a spiritual need out there now, for answers, good ones, and until we really try some easy exercises to get this conversation going with our HS's, this might not happen.

In fact, I'm not trying to dump on Montalk, but I'm sure he could come up with a great article about this.   I don't have his gift of concise writing, that explains so easily about how to get this done.

I would encourage others to ask questions about this, or maybe start other posts concerning this topic.   I hope those of you reading this who have only a little bit of experience, or maybe have not tried it at all, do take the time to try it out.

I'm sticking my neck out here.    I just hope it doesn't get chopped off...lol... but my intent is to help others, I hope everyone see's this.

  • Registered: 2005-08-30

Re: Earth Angels Questionaire

I picked up that book a few years ago to read during a flight because it is a very small book, and I thought it would be a fun, light read, which it was. 

I think it's fair to say the questionaire itself is lacking, but I did find some of the information useful in understanding different energy types.  I'm sure it could be used for ego-stroking by some people if they need that kind of thing.  Or perhaps used to justify a co-dependent relationship.  But it could also be used to rise above such a situation.  Knowledge=Power=Light.   

Like using hypnosis to remember a previous incarnation which then heals something in the present and gives a fuller understanding to current motivations, choices and personality... I think understanding one's connection to the categories in this book can be enlightening.

I don't really have any value judgements regarding the various categories.  Everyone and everything has it's place in Creation.  IMO, judgement only keeps one stuck in duality.  Resonating with or originating from the Angelic kingdom is no better than the Elemental kingdom, for example.

Out of curiosity, I used muscle testing to ask my Highest Self which category most applied to me.  I was surprised at the answer.   The second category that most applied to me was the only one I had anticipated.  The first most applicable category however was a big surprise, and led me to discover and reclaim other parts of me from incarnations that I had been blocking. 

It helped me to reconnect with some of the knowledge and abilities of those lifetimes, and made me more aware of Who I Really Am and the wholeness of my Being.

  • From: NOTHING
  • Registered: 2004-09-03

Re: Earth Angels Questionaire

whywhywhy wrote:

Don’t we know who we are already?  Or, better yet, don’t we have an idea of who we are?  Everybody at NR (most everybody) knows the answer to this question……………The real issue is, have we realized ourselves?

Yes, as a matter of fact I did already know that I was a starseed before I was ever given this book. So it really just served as confirmation for me. What I didn't realize before reading the book was that quite a few others I have known throughout my life would qualify for one of those categories as well . . and that what I know about those people personally matches perfectly with what category I know they fit into.

I am as is Void.

27 Reply by montalk (edited by montalk 2006-04-27 19:57:09)

  • montalk
  • montalk
  • forum-keeper-upper
  • Offline
  • Registered: 2004-03-24

Re: Earth Angels Questionaire

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic. … 382#p36382

[edit:  I moved the next several posts to the link above because it dealt with Dion Fortune's writings on "incarnated elementals"]

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

montalk's Website

28 Reply by Solar_Sphinx (edited by Solar_Sphinx 2006-04-28 10:05:14)

  • Solar_Sphinx
  • Solar_Sphinx
  • Gone, gone, gone beyond, utterly gone beyond...
  • Offline
  • Registered: 2005-03-09

Re: Earth Angels Questionaire

Just surfin' by, and I have to agree with Lyra... smile The whole starseed-concept may be another thing to keep people looking at the stars, not seeing where they are going, being alienated from their Earth Temple: the body.  The questions seemed...weird. But if they work for some people, that's great, I guess.

This whole thing about not feeling at home on this planet, well, I know what that is like.
At this very moment, however, I do not feel that I supposed to be anywhere else.

I like John Baines' description of the Beast trying to make it's way to the stars, and the Spirit descending, and that the important thing is to be HERE in THIS body, aware, conscious.
No doubt some of us feel we do not belong here,
but longing to be somewhere else might not do the trick...

"...Manjushri said: 'I think that when you can[not] speak of any event, when you neither indicate nor know anything, [and] pass beyond questions and answers, this is to enter gate of oneness. Sir, now please tell us how a bodhisattva enters the gate of oneness.'
And Vimalakirti kept silent, and did not say a word..."

Solar_Sphinx's Website

  • From: aworld w/out invisible borders
  • Registered: 2005-06-09

Re: Earth Angels Questionaire

Yea I agree.

If I had the choice to go "home" right now, I wouldn't do it... I have a feeling that I haven't quite completed what I said I would do during this incarnation, if there is indeed something for me to do.  And with that I feel grateful for being here, it is truely amazing beyond words.

"Beyond the stars a new world awaits me now" - Wintersun

Natural Mystic's Website

  • From: NOTHING
  • Registered: 2004-09-03

Re: Earth Angels Questionaire

Natural Mystic wrote:

If I had the choice to go "home" right now, I wouldn't do it... I have a feeling that I haven't quite completed what I said I would do during this incarnation, if there is indeed something for me to do.  And with that I feel grateful for being here, it is truely amazing beyond words.

Yes!! Thank you for reminding me of that. Coincidentally here are the words to the song I recently learned to sing and play on guitar at the same time - your post reminded me of it.

The Patient by Tool wrote:

"I must keep reminding myself of this . . . if there were no rewards to reap . .  no loving embrace to see me through . .  this tedious path I've chosen here . .  I certainly would have walked away . .  by now . .  and I still may"

I am as is Void.