Contacting the "Dark Side" (Page 1 of 2)

The term "master" reminded me a demon, like when occultists invoke demons to do their bidding, whom they in turn must do something for.   Those demons are the occultists' master, in a sense.  The occultists are at the demonic entities' whim and mercy and serve them, in exchange for "power", or whatever else it is they want.

At any rate, I don't have to warn you to be careful, you seem to be aware that caution is necessary.  But oh well, I'll say it anyway......you really need to be careful when doing that sort of thing!   (insert bug-eyed face here!)  Seriously, we all have enough problems in this world without inviting some powerful neg into our realities who demands to be called master.   Maybe try calling on something postive now to try to counterbalance any residual effects of this thing?   Having a positive presense around might deter this thing from "taking root."  I don't know if merely reaching out to it out of curiousity can allow it to take a foothold in your reality, but just in case, it probably wouldn't hurt to have something positive around.

"Inside you there are two dogs battling...which one is going to win?"

"I don't know...the one I feed the most?"

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I think after being inspired into a spiritual-route, the M-O-S-T important thing is to start "the Work". Reading Castaneda, Osho, Gurdjieff (+ his many side-kicks), and learning self-observation, self-stalking, and learning the art of 'cessation of the mind', disrupting 'internal-dialogue' and enslaving the mind (intellectual center) to its proper place below your higher-centers. Once this is done, you need not fear any negs, for your 3D self will be structured.

Well at least this is what I feel to say to you wandering1. Once you really put your effort into it, your true wisdom which accompanies your interest in such resonating materials will come out and flourish. Once the STO-dog in you is fatter than the other dog, you won't be vulnerable (without a fight). The dog represents a vibration, and once you feed it enough, your vibration rises to a high peak. Negs attack you through the other dog, but if you keep that dog weak, they really wont even bother with you anymore. They have many other weak people to feed off.

I don't mean to preach.

Hehe, what's funny is that I was actually thinking that in my head when reading the initial post.

wandering1, if by any chance you opened pandoras box and it ever appears in physical form to you, TICKLE it in the arm-pits and below the navel. Maybe you can transmute it into an angel by making it laugh hysterically?

Wandering, at least you were wise enough to end contact immediately. Others, notably the more flaky or darker variety of New Agers actively seek out these contacts and are happy to find an "ascended master" to tell them what to do. Funny thing is that ascension means graduating to a higher density, and 4D or 5D STS have certainly done that, so they are quite rightly called "ascended masters" --- which I guess would imply those who follow them are "unascended slaves".

Has anyone here experienced the consequences of trying to contact the grays or lizzies? As I mentioned in another post, once I was naive enough to ask the grays for a sign that they were real...that opened the door and they barged right in, abducting me that same night and giving me a hairline scar on my upper right forehead. Apparently, once they're in they are very stubborn guests to leave.

Another thing I noticed is that having hatred or spite toward the dark side also invites it in...as if by psychically hitting them you get close enough for them to hit right back. That's why the "love your enemy" is a smarter thing to do.

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That's good advice, though there is one caution:

Structuring the 3D self is like tilling the soil. If you stop there, then only weeds will grow. In other words, although tilling is necessary - and thus self-observation, balancing your shadow side, stalking your programmed reactions to button pushing events, and quieting the internal energy-wasting chatter are all good starts - these are not sufficient to actually grow a good crop. You also need the seed, sunlight, and water.

For some reason, Fourth Way (Gurdjieff) interpretations of "the Work" leave out these last several ingredients and focus almost exclusively on the "tilling."  There's almost nothing about planting the seed (locating the silent observer within you, the Real Self that comprises the heart of your soul) or watering it (aligning your thoughts with the Real Self, with the principles of intuition, wisdom, and discernment) or having sufficient sunlight (raising your emotional vibration to align with the Real Self, with the frequencies of love, compassion, and understanding).

Since we're discussing progress and protection, notice that STS forces fear those with knowledge (because it makes them less predictable) and are repelled by higher frequency emotional energies, so the logical equation would be:

Higher Frequency + Awareness = Protection

Since protection comes from strength, and growing means becoming stronger, another logical equation would be:

Striving toward Higher Frequency + Seeking Awareness = Progress

If you leave out the first term in these equations, as some interpretations of "the Work" do, then protection and progress will suffer.

To summarize, besides being aware and structuring your 3D self, be sure to also locate the Real Self within and think/feel/act in accordance with its calling, which is how you raise your frequencies and thus catalyze your progress and reinforce protection.

Great posts all around. On the subject of the integration of our dark side, I think the best is to observe ourselves, notice when we do STS thinking/actions and accept/forgive this as a part of ourselves at the current moment (we are not born perfect, otherwise we wouldn't be here!), which eventually diminishes its power over us. Observing others as mirrors makes this process easier as the ego tends to project outside the parts it doesn't like (the ego, working on dualities, takes the "good" side and rejects the "bad" side, but they are two sides of the same coin).

Yes, I think that there is a significant difference between the dark side/evil/STS/negative forces and the shadow side of an individual.

I was aware of such differences a few months ago and continue to be aware of them today.

Personally, I was in a "Let's give this a try" frame of mind and I was consciously trying to contact STS (service-to-self entities).

I see integrating the individual shadow as something different, but posssibly it does have some relationship with understanding STS.

I wanted to give some background as to why I wanted to contact STS (dark side), and show that I was not doing it simply for the "hell of it".

Maybe that will help to clarify.

Go for it! 

I think that the Shadow Self is most apt to get us when we deny it.  I can imagine it always watching and lurking, perhaps like a Gollum, looking for the most opportune time to take over.

And then the Shadow does take over, and later a person might say "I did that, but it wasn't really me.  I don't know what came over me.  I wasn't myself."

I think that if we only imagine that we can only act in "good" ways then that can serve as a repression. 

Also, in 3d, there can be a difference between "just thinking" about something and actually doing it.

Perhaps as 4d approaches and "bleeds-through", it will be more possible for people to be telepathic and sense what others are thinking.

Perhaps in full-blown 4d, a negative thought IS a negative action.