The theory of Organic Portals and David Icke (Page 1 of 4)

David Icke just described Organic Portals, IMHO.

Think of horses on a carousel. Whether anyone is sitting on them or not they still go round with the rest. Our 'physical' bodies are biological computers reading software programs and they are running all the time. The question is whether self- aware consciousness chooses to experience this illusory world through one of those software carousel 'horses' (human bodies) or not. If it doesn't, the 'body' will still play out the program, because it is a biological computer capable of 'thought' (assessment of data). But it will be nothing more than software without consciousness as defined in this book. Everything you see in the Matrix is part of the program, including your own body. The exception to this is your consciousness, those that have any that is, because, in the way I am defining consciousness in this book, not everyone has. The phenomenon of the 'woman in the red dress' in the first Matrix movie, the woman who was just part of a software program despite appearing 'real', is not confined to a Hollywood sci-fi script. These 'computer' creations, these carousel horses with no rider, are everywhere. There are three main groups of 'people' in the Matrix[...]:

1) First there are the software programs whose only consciousness is the DNA/RNA receiving instructions from the Matrix. They are constructs of mind, not consciousness. All energy/consciousness is Infinite Oneness, but not all expressions of this are at the same level of awareness. The 'human' interactive software programs are sophisticated robots following a 'life' program dictated by the Matrix and their free will is basically zilch. I'm sure you must have met many. They appear to be the same as everyone else in the way they look, but the best special effects studios can now put digital 'people' into advertisements and you can't see the join. There is a television presenter in Britain who is famous for being enormous and she appeared in a commercial with a far slimmer body to sell a food product. You could not see the join and anyone who didn't know what she really looked like would believe the body in the ad was hers. This is why we have to be extremely wary about 'Bin Laden' videos that suddenly come to light at just the right time from the agenda's point of view. Producing a fake Bin Laden saying fake words is a cinch to the state-of-the-art special effects houses. The same principle applies with these 'Red Dress' programs, as I will call them. They are bodies without consciousness, interactive software programs. The lifeless look in their eyes is one way of picking them out, as is the lack of energy coming from them. They resonate to a different frequency to conscious awareness and again you can symbolise them as the horses on the carousel with no one on board. These interactive software programs can malfunction, go off message, and 'hack' into other programs - as with the Agent Smith character in the Matrix movies. A lot of that is going on, too.

2) Other people do have consciousness, but are so entranced and deluded by the Matrix that their DNA programming calls the shots and dictates the path that they take. These horses do have a rider, but the horse is still making the decisions. They go where the DNA program takes them because they don't think they have a choice or don't choose to make one. They can be lovely, caring people and express their consciousness in that way, but they can't see beyond the illusion. These are the main energy source for the Matrix because it feeds off the emotional energies of fear, guilt, and frustration etc., generated by consciousness trapped in this virtual reality prison and identifying with its programmed 'personality'. Once consciousness identifies with the mind and emotions - the software - it begins to resonate to those frequencies and this invariably means an expression of fear. These people, with what you might call 'back seat consciousness', also represent by far the biggest section of 'conscious' humanity. They are the system fodder who overwhelmingly do and think as they are told.

3) The third, and by far the smallest, group are those who are aware enough to see through the illusion and have begun to access the knowing of Infinite Oneness beyond the walls of the software program. This doesn't mean they understand the full nature of life and reality, but they have at least a subconscious knowing that the world is not as it seems. They are the only ones with free will in the sense that they have the awareness and power of consciousness to break the control of the DNA software. They can ride the horse and, in doing so, rewrite the program. These people stand out from the crowd and are dubbed dangerous or mad because they don't see the world like everyone else. The Matrix is a six- stone weakling compared with consciousness in its true power, and this group is like a computer virus that has the means to scramble the program and download another reality. The Matrix targets these people with a vengeance to protect its control and also because if it can manipulate this level of consciousness to become caught in the illusions and succumb to fear, it is a massive potential energy source.

Consciousness has become trapped by the Matrix in a maze of smoke and mirrors that has implanted a false reality. The 'Red Dresses', or software people, are no problem because they just follow the codes. The targets of the Matrix are those with self-aware consciousness who find themselves, for whatever reason, caught in the flytrap. It is in pursuit of these people - this consciousness - that the system of society is so designed in this part of the program. I have been saying in my books for years that the system has been structured to hold consciousness in a prison of the five senses. You can see everywhere that this is so obviously true. But what is this five- sense jail cell? It is a prison of the brain and body - the DNA! While we are focused purely on the five-sense reality we are slaves to the DNA that dictates our thoughts, emotions and actions. The consciousness of most people never gets its hands on the wheel of life because the DNA will not vacate the driver's seat. Consciousness in its reconnected infinite power could easily take control, but it is difficult to do this when you are not aware that you are Infinite Consciousness and you think that the DNA thoughts and emotions you are having are yours. This is how the movie constantly plays out while slumbering consciousness thinks it is calling the shots! The aim is to turn conscious beings into generators of fear in all its forms to empower the Matrix, and to take away freedom and replace it with what I call feardom - domination by fear. One of the major ways this is done is through the software programs that we call 'leaders'. You will recall the emphasis I have placed on the obsession of the Illuminati families with interbreeding and genetics. As I have already suggested, what we call procreation is the recording of two software programs (father and mother) onto one disk - the child. All bodies are software programs and the difference is whether they are pure software (Red Dresses) or whether consciousness is involved. When consciousness expresses itself through the body it rewrites the DNA programming which, in turn, is transmitted to other DNA and to the Matrix in general. These people change what we call the bloodline and, as a result, these Red Dress genetic lines become increasingly less controlled by the dictates of the program. Such people will have a heart dimension to their views and decisions; they will have a sense of empathy, compassion and fairness. They will not, in short, react as a programmed disk in the way the Matrix demands with violence, bigotry and an absence of empathy with those who suffer the consequences of their actions. The world is awash with this mentality because it is awash with software people.

In my mind all of this contradicts Icke's "water droplet" theory.

I haven't been able to come to terms with the contradictions and discrepencies in the "water droplet" theory and his "characters that are actually in positions of power manipulating this world are actually projections" comments. Both theories cannot be true. They are in direct contradiction to each other. When David Icke talks about the "water droplet" theory he is talking about the divine spirit that unites us all. The "sentient programs" Icke talks about do not have the divine spirit and therefore cannot be part of the ocean, it's impossible.

When I say it's all an illusion and a computer program, I do mean all. It is an apparent contradiction that the earth and the cosmos was supposed to have been created by a loving God and yet what we call Nature is a bloody battle-ground in which one animal's survival is dependent on another's, often grotesque, demise. The voice in Brazil told me that there was no contradiction in this because the law of the wild' was not the creation of a loving God or Oneness in awareness of itself. It was a Matrix software program and, without the control of fear, the relationship between animals, and animals and humans, would be very different.

[...]

The voice in Brazil asked: 'Do you think the Infinite, where you are now, would wish to see anything suffer and live in fear, never mind create a structure in which this happened as a matter of course?' Nature was another holographic projection that was only 'real' because we were conditioned to believe it was (Figure 54, overleaf). The voice said the 'laws' of the natural world reflected the state of being of their creator, the force controlling the Matrix. This was a state of fear and desperation to survive ... a trait of the reptilian brain. (Observe human society and you'll see how it is structured in the same way with people surviving or prospering at the expense of others - 'dog eat dog' and all that.) There were, the voice said, some apparently beautiful expressions of nature on 'Planet Earth' and so long as we realised they were illusions they could be enjoyed. But we should be careful not to become mesmerised by what we see on earth or we would become like a moth hypnotised by a light, trapped by illusions that held us in a disconnected state. The Matrix can be extremely captivating - just look at a clear night sky, or a panoramic landscape. The message was to enjoy what you see, but remember that what you 'see' is merely what you think you see or are manipulated to see.

[...]

Another documentary I saw told the story of Grey Whales which, once again, spent part of the year in warm waters where they were safe, but had little food, and then headed north where there was food, but they weren't safe. Or at least the calves weren't. The programme showed how Killer Whales pursued a Grey Whale calf for six hours as its mother, who was too big and powerful to be attacked, tried to provide protection. The killers sought to separate calf from mother and hold it under the water to drown. The mother fought desperately to save her offspring and help it to breathe but, in the end, exhaustion took over and the Killer Whales lived up to their name. Even after all those hours of pursuit and all that fear and trauma, they only ate the calf's tongue and lower jaw and the rest was left to the scavengers on the ocean floor. It was just another bloody crime-scene in the wonderful world of Nature. What kind of 'intelligence' creates a natural world in which the survival of one depends on tearing another to pieces? What sick mind would design a global life-cycle in which the participants were in a mode of constant fear - humans as well as the animals? Would a loving God do that? No, but the mind behind the Matrix would, and it has.

As far as the drops in the ocean, I guess we can stretch that since soul matter is found at all density levels.  Animals have souls.  Inanimate matter has recyled soul matter.  The difference we are dealing with is one of 'level of developement'.

In this respect, I would say that the "sentient programs" do have the divine spirit as does everything.  It's just not developed.  It's more of an imprint or maybe a small gathering of soulness.

onionworld wrote:

David Icke just described Organic Portals, IMHO.

Yes, Icke wrote about this in "Infinite Love is the Only Truth":

Think of horses on a carousel. Whether anyone is sitting on them or not they still go round with the rest. Our 'physical' bodies are biological computers reading software programs and they are running all the time. The question is whether self- aware consciousness chooses to experience this illusory world through one of those software carousel 'horses' (human bodies) or not. If it doesn't, the 'body' will still play out the program, because it is a biological computer capable of 'thought' (assessment of data). But it will be nothing more than software without consciousness as defined in this book. Everything you see in the Matrix is part of the program, including your own body. The exception to this is your consciousness, those that have any that is, because, in the way I am defining consciousness in this book, not everyone has. The phenomenon of the 'woman in the red dress' in the first Matrix movie, the woman who was just part of a software program despite appearing 'real', is not confined to a Hollywood sci-fi script. These 'computer' creations, these carousel horses with no rider, are everywhere. There are three main groups of 'people' in the Matrix[...]:

1) First there are the software programs whose only consciousness is the DNA/RNA receiving instructions from the Matrix. They are constructs of mind, not consciousness. All energy/consciousness is Infinite Oneness, but not all expressions of this are at the same level of awareness. The 'human' interactive software programs are sophisticated robots following a 'life' program dictated by the Matrix and their free will is basically zilch. I'm sure you must have met many. They appear to be the same as everyone else in the way they look, but the best special effects studios can now put digital 'people' into advertisements and you can't see the join. There is a television presenter in Britain who is famous for being enormous and she appeared in a commercial with a far slimmer body to sell a food product. You could not see the join and anyone who didn't know what she really looked like would believe the body in the ad was hers. This is why we have to be extremely wary about 'Bin Laden' videos that suddenly come to light at just the right time from the agenda's point of view. Producing a fake Bin Laden saying fake words is a cinch to the state-of-the-art special effects houses. The same principle applies with these 'Red Dress' programs, as I will call them. They are bodies without consciousness, interactive software programs. The lifeless look in their eyes is one way of picking them out, as is the lack of energy coming from them. They resonate to a different frequency to conscious awareness and again you can symbolise them as the horses on the carousel with no one on board. These interactive software programs can malfunction, go off message, and 'hack' into other programs - as with the Agent Smith character in the Matrix movies. A lot of that is going on, too.

2) Other people do have consciousness, but are so entranced and deluded by the Matrix that their DNA programming calls the shots and dictates the path that they take. These horses do have a rider, but the horse is still making the decisions. They go where the DNA program takes them because they don't think they have a choice or don't choose to make one. They can be lovely, caring people and express their consciousness in that way, but they can't see beyond the illusion. These are the main energy source for the Matrix because it feeds off the emotional energies of fear, guilt, and frustration etc., generated by consciousness trapped in this virtual reality prison and identifying with its programmed 'personality'. Once consciousness identifies with the mind and emotions - the software - it begins to resonate to those frequencies and this invariably means an expression of fear. These people, with what you might call 'back seat consciousness', also represent by far the biggest section of 'conscious' humanity. They are the system fodder who overwhelmingly do and think as they are told.

3) The third, and by far the smallest, group are those who are aware enough to see through the illusion and have begun to access the knowing of Infinite Oneness beyond the walls of the software program. This doesn't mean they understand the full nature of life and reality, but they have at least a subconscious knowing that the world is not as it seems. They are the only ones with free will in the sense that they have the awareness and power of consciousness to break the control of the DNA software. They can ride the horse and, in doing so, rewrite the program. These people stand out from the crowd and are dubbed dangerous or mad because they don't see the world like everyone else. The Matrix is a six- stone weakling compared with consciousness in its true power, and this group is like a computer virus that has the means to scramble the program and download another reality. The Matrix targets these people with a vengeance to protect its control and also because if it can manipulate this level of consciousness to become caught in the illusions and succumb to fear, it is a massive potential energy source.

Consciousness has become trapped by the Matrix in a maze of smoke and mirrors that has implanted a false reality. The 'Red Dresses', or software people, are no problem because they just follow the codes. The targets of the Matrix are those with self-aware consciousness who find themselves, for whatever reason, caught in the flytrap. It is in pursuit of these people - this consciousness - that the system of society is so designed in this part of the program. I have been saying in my books for years that the system has been structured to hold consciousness in a prison of the five senses. You can see everywhere that this is so obviously true. But what is this five- sense jail cell? It is a prison of the brain and body - the DNA! While we are focused purely on the five-sense reality we are slaves to the DNA that dictates our thoughts, emotions and actions. The consciousness of most people never gets its hands on the wheel of life because the DNA will not vacate the driver's seat. Consciousness in its reconnected infinite power could easily take control, but it is difficult to do this when you are not aware that you are Infinite Consciousness and you think that the DNA thoughts and emotions you are having are yours. This is how the movie constantly plays out while slumbering consciousness thinks it is calling the shots! The aim is to turn conscious beings into generators of fear in all its forms to empower the Matrix, and to take away freedom and replace it with what I call feardom - domination by fear. One of the major ways this is done is through the software programs that we call 'leaders'. You will recall the emphasis I have placed on the obsession of the Illuminati families with interbreeding and genetics. As I have already suggested, what we call procreation is the recording of two software programs (father and mother) onto one disk - the child. All bodies are software programs and the difference is whether they are pure software (Red Dresses) or whether consciousness is involved. When consciousness expresses itself through the body it rewrites the DNA programming which, in turn, is transmitted to other DNA and to the Matrix in general. These people change what we call the bloodline and, as a result, these Red Dress genetic lines become increasingly less controlled by the dictates of the program. Such people will have a heart dimension to their views and decisions; they will have a sense of empathy, compassion and fairness. They will not, in short, react as a programmed disk in the way the Matrix demands with violence, bigotry and an absence of empathy with those who suffer the consequences of their actions. The world is awash with this mentality because it is awash with software people.

Onionworld wrote:

In my mind all of this contradicts Icke's "water droplet" theory.

I haven't been able to come to terms with the contradictions and discrepencies in the "water droplet" theory and his "characters that are actually in positions of power manipulating this world are actually projections" comments. Both theories cannot be true. They are in direct contradiction to each other. When David Icke talks about the "water droplet" theory he is talking about the divine spirit that unites us all. The "sentient programs" Icke talks about do not have the divine spirit and therefore cannot be part of the ocean, it's impossible.

Not sure if this addresses your question, but in the same book Icke continues:

Icke wrote:

When I say it's all an illusion and a computer program, I do mean all. It is an apparent contradiction that the earth and the cosmos was supposed to have been created by a loving God and yet what we call Nature is a bloody battle-ground in which one animal's survival is dependent on another's, often grotesque, demise. The voice in Brazil told me that there was no contradiction in this because the law of the wild' was not the creation of a loving God or Oneness in awareness of itself. It was a Matrix software program and, without the control of fear, the relationship between animals, and animals and humans, would be very different.

[...]

The voice in Brazil asked: 'Do you think the Infinite, where you are now, would wish to see anything suffer and live in fear, never mind create a structure in which this happened as a matter of course?' Nature was another holographic projection that was only 'real' because we were conditioned to believe it was (Figure 54, overleaf). The voice said the 'laws' of the natural world reflected the state of being of their creator, the force controlling the Matrix. This was a state of fear and desperation to survive ... a trait of the reptilian brain. (Observe human society and you'll see how it is structured in the same way with people surviving or prospering at the expense of others - 'dog eat dog' and all that.) There were, the voice said, some apparently beautiful expressions of nature on 'Planet Earth' and so long as we realised they were illusions they could be enjoyed. But we should be careful not to become mesmerised by what we see on earth or we would become like a moth hypnotised by a light, trapped by illusions that held us in a disconnected state. The Matrix can be extremely captivating - just look at a clear night sky, or a panoramic landscape. The message was to enjoy what you see, but remember that what you 'see' is merely what you think you see or are manipulated to see.

[...]

Another documentary I saw told the story of Grey Whales which, once again, spent part of the year in warm waters where they were safe, but had little food, and then headed north where there was food, but they weren't safe. Or at least the calves weren't. The programme showed how Killer Whales pursued a Grey Whale calf for six hours as its mother, who was too big and powerful to be attacked, tried to provide protection. The killers sought to separate calf from mother and hold it under the water to drown. The mother fought desperately to save her offspring and help it to breathe but, in the end, exhaustion took over and the Killer Whales lived up to their name. Even after all those hours of pursuit and all that fear and trauma, they only ate the calf's tongue and lower jaw and the rest was left to the scavengers on the ocean floor. It was just another bloody crime-scene in the wonderful world of Nature. What kind of 'intelligence' creates a natural world in which the survival of one depends on tearing another to pieces? What sick mind would design a global life-cycle in which the participants were in a mode of constant fear - humans as well as the animals? Would a loving God do that? No, but the mind behind the Matrix would, and it has.

z3n3rg wrote:

As far as the drops in the ocean, I guess we can stretch that since soul matter is found at all density levels.  Animals have souls.  Inanimate matter has recyled soul matter.  The difference we are dealing with is one of 'level of developement'.

In this respect, I would say that the "sentient programs" do have the divine spirit as does everything.  It's just not developed.  It's more of an imprint or maybe a small gathering of soulness.

Right on, that's a good way of explaining it.

From what I understand, both an inert stone and a person are part of the universal hologram, both composed of a single thought energy that makes them ultimately one. But they still differ in form and function. What makes a human being more than just a sack of minerals are the more developed conscious layers nested within the physical body.

When Icke talks about water droplets as being part of one ocean, he's talking about anything made of consciousness being One with anything else made of consciousness. The paradox is that although everything is made of consciousness, not everything is conscious - although everything is made of thought, not everything thinks. What is conscious and thinks does so because of a "godspark" that endows it with self-awareness and freewill. This is lacking in what Icke calls "projections".

That classification scheme is a subterfuge that was given to the new age by Alien intelligences.
It may have been a useful step on the path at one time, but I refuse to accept it.
There is something very " not right " about it. It does not reflect the divine order of things beyond this realm, but something else entirely.

I haven't been able to come to terms with the contradictions and discrepencies in the "water droplet" theory and his "characters that are actually in positions of power manipulating this world are actually projections" comments. Both theories cannot be true. They are in direct contradiction to each other. When David Icke talks about the "water droplet" theory he is talking about the divine spirit that unites us all. The "sentient programs" Icke talks about do not have the divine spirit and therefore cannot be part of the ocean, it's impossible.

Here's the thought I had yesterday, it's brief.

What if the OP-types actually were born with normal souls, as in fully human, but eventually over time got rid of their soul essence through the choices the made and through spiritual lethargy / being overtaken bit by bit.

Two weeks ago I emailed a gifted remote worker I know about this, asking for their thoughts.  Their response was that most all people who don't appear to have a soul started out with one, but it 'left them' (no details on this part), or in some cases it never entered the body.  An another aspect of this phenomenon in their opinion could be due to folks who 'weren't supposed to have stayed.' 

Weird stuff... but some interesting ideas.  cheers