• From: The Singularity
  • Registered: 2005-09-23

Topic: RE: Timeline Dynamics by Montalk

Just read this article on montalk.net.  Very clear and concise.  Definitely textbook quality!

The article inspired a couple of ideas on strategy to depolarize negative attacks.

Trying to get rid of a neg influence in the present moment can sometimes be very difficult, and is often met with failure.  As the article hinted, interaction of any sort with a neg in the present draws one into a probable future where the neg has greater influence.

Strategy 1:  Connect with a probable future in which you are free of the negative influence, thus creating a positive feedback loop.  If you can make the choice to be free of neg influences, then some future must exist in which you are free.  In other words, find a point in the future which is after the neg "departed" to the present.  Then every time the neg attempts a greeting in the present, the future timeline that you created is reinforced.

Strategy 2:  Connect with a past moment before the negative influence occurred, thus creating a negative feedback loop.  In other words, find a point in the past which is before the neg "arrived".  Then every time the neg attempts a greeting in the present, it is forced to go back farther and farther in time to manifest its will.

Well that's at least the basic idea. . about to run out of the house for now.  Later y'all!

It is not for us to understand love, but simply to make space for it.

2 Reply by Aquarius (edited by Aquarius 2006-04-17 16:40:58)

  • Registered: 2004-10-06

Re: RE: Timeline Dynamics by Montalk

I really appreciated that article too.  What I got from it is a reinforcement of the importance of controlling my negative emotions...not letting anybody push my buttons.  Still have a lot of work to do in that area, particularly with close family members.  My buttons still get pushed, but I can recenter myself more quickly with a lot of practice.

Something I wonder about is whether a desired future goal is something I am free to choose if I wish, if it is inevitable, or perhaps is it precluded due to another inevitablilty.

Sorry if I am straying beyond the intent of your thread.

Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great and would suffice.  ~Robert Frost
  • Registered: 2005-03-07

Re: RE: Timeline Dynamics by Montalk

tenetnosce wrote:

Strategy 1:  Connect with a probable future in which you are free of the negative influence, thus creating a positive feedback loop.  If you can make the choice to be free of neg influences, then some future must exist in which you are free.  In other words, find a point in the future which is after the neg "departed" to the present.  Then every time the neg attempts a greeting in the present, the future timeline that you created is reinforced.

Awesome idea!

One exercise I love, that my Navajo friend taught to me, is to have an imaginary conversation with my future self.  The future self that has the stuff worked out that I'm trying to work out.  You just ask yourself how you did it and listen for the answer.

Maybe being totally free of Neg influence is a perfectionist's picture, though.  It might be easier to "vector with" a probable future in which "you're rubber and they're glue" instead of trying to draw in the experience of being all totally purified of negativity.  Or, maybe I'm splitting hairs.

The way I think of it is we all exist in an ocean of energy.  We're all fish in the ocean and even when we're enlightened we'll still feel the ripples from the Negs.  The difference will be in how we react to the ripples.

You can't change a tiger's stripes,
but you can avoid its teeth.

4 Reply by tenetnosce (edited by tenetnosce 2006-04-18 10:13:31)

  • From: The Singularity
  • Registered: 2005-09-23

Re: RE: Timeline Dynamics by Montalk

dreamosis wrote:

Maybe being totally free of Neg influence is a perfectionist's picture, though.  It might be easier to "vector with" a probable future in which "you're rubber and they're glue" instead of trying to draw in the experience of being all totally purified of negativity.  Or, maybe I'm splitting hairs.

I meant to focus on a timeline free of that particular neg, but heck I dunno, maybe you can lose 'em all in one shot!  I think that it might be an overstretch to imagine a future self that is "totally purified of negativity" however, I can imagine myself at a point where it is no longer useful for the negs to launch an attack on me.

Negs are kind of like bullies.  They pick on the little kids.  Then one day one of them gets a big head and tries to pick on somebody stronger than himself and ends up getting his ass kicked.  After that point the bullies pretty much leave the older kid alone.

It is not for us to understand love, but simply to make space for it.
  • Registered: 2005-03-07

Re: RE: Timeline Dynamics by Montalk

tenetnosce wrote:

I meant to focus on a timeline free of that particular neg...

That's a cool idea, too.  In fact, I'm going get busy with a little of that myself.  smile

Focusing on a time wherein "you're no longer useful" to Negs seems like a great direction, as well.  Directions rather than goal-points seem to be easier to mock-up for me.

You can't change a tiger's stripes,
but you can avoid its teeth.