Topic: Sleep disorders
Does anyone else out there in NR-land have Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome? I know I do, and have had it for as long as I can remember.
When I was a kid, getting up at 6:30 in the morning to catch the school bus was literal hell.
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Does anyone else out there in NR-land have Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome? I know I do, and have had it for as long as I can remember.
When I was a kid, getting up at 6:30 in the morning to catch the school bus was literal hell.
Sufferers – sometimes termed "night owls" – have an identifiable sleep pattern where the majority fall asleep in the pre-dawn hours and wake in the (early) afternoon.
... guilty as charged ![]()
Even if I force myself to get up early, I'm a half-awake zombie for most of the day and don't start fully waking up until evening, then am too awake to fall asleep until 2AM-5AM. So it doesn't matter when I get up, just can't naturally reset my clock. High school and college were about paying attention to dull classes and tedious homework while terribly fatigued. By the time I felt somewhat awake, classes were already over. And moving the clocks forward in Spring, that still annoys me. The only thing that saved me in the end was supplementing with melatonin.
The Wikipedia article says this might be genetic. Makes me wonder what evolutionary advantage being nocturnal might have. Or maybe it's environmental... I slept with the lights on through my childhood due to aliens and ghosts and such, so that could have desensitized me to changes in light conditions. Combined with artificial lighting and 60 Hz EMF affecting the pineal gland, that could account for it.
Americans are waking up earlier than ever
"It's my favorite time of day," Reid said. "It's the only time I can fit in personal things, spiritual things and time with my family."
"Did I sleep last night?" Donovan said. "I don't sleep, period. I wish I would sleep. I haven't slept in months. It's usually a couple hours up, a couple hours asleep. I drive my wife nuts. Sleep deprivation is something I deal with all the time."
Late for work again? Just blame it on 'social' jet-lag, say researchers
HALF the population are in a permanent state of jet-lag because their body clocks are so out of synch with the demands of modern life, sleep researchers claim.
Brain Activity is Visibly Altered Following Sleep Deprivation
In the earlier study, the team studied sleep-deprived subjects performing an arithmetic task involving subtraction. In that study, they observed that the brain regions activated in rested subjects doing the arithmetic problems were not active in the sleep-deprived subjects.
Some advice from Steve Pavlina on becoming an early riser:
But after a while I couldn’t ignore the high correlation between success and rising early, even in my own life. On those rare occasions where I did get up early, I noticed that my productivity was almost always higher, not just in the morning but all throughout the day. And I also noticed a significant feeling of well-being...
With the help of melatonin I've been trying (since last night at least, so your post, morningsun, is synchronous) to start the day early again, just so that I can get more things done. Recently I read this article on CNN about a family that wakes up at 3AM or 4AM and pride themselves on being early risers... they looked like uptight Jeopardy contestants, and that made me shudder. I wondered why I felt such resistance toward that idea of being gleefully happy to jump at the day before anyone else, as though it were the conformity beyond social conformity.
So it crossed my mind that the delayed sleep-phase syndrome could be another bit of self-destructive programming given by the military/alien factions. It's easy, all they have to do is insert "You will not go to bed until 5:30 AM" and unless you catch and counteract it, the posthypnotic suggestion does its thing.
Even if I force myself to get up early, I'm a half-awake zombie for most of the day and don't start fully waking up until evening, then am too awake to fall asleep until 2AM-5AM. So it doesn't matter when I get up, just can't naturally reset my clock. High school and college were about paying attention to dull classes and tedious homework while terribly fatigued. By the time I felt somewhat awake, classes were already over. And moving the clocks forward in Spring, that still annoys me. The only thing that saved me in the end was supplementing with melatonin.
Yeah, I can definitely relate. I never slept with the lights on as a kid, though, so that definitely was not the culprit in my case. I actually don't so much mind being up at night in and of itself, since it's quiet and there's less people to deal with. But I often seriously slip up on getting things done. It's hard to get to the Post Office or bank after waking up at 3 in the afternoon ... by the time I'm semi-conscious, have showered and eaten it's usually already way too late to do any of that stuff. It often requires serious effort and a specific act of volition to accomplish these things. Not having a "regular" job to report to makes it that much easier to slip up.
I guess I'll have to research melatonin and see if that helps at all.
I'm probably one of these. Back into childhood before I knew what caffiene was, getting up at 6am to get the schoolbus was hell. I like coffee which makes it even worse. I use melatonin and valarien tincture which is a liquid tincture that comes in a small dark glass bottle with the dropper also found at the health food store. And if you can avoid any form of caffiene it helps. But so far nothing I do works for long and is made worse by living with other night owls who are noisey at 12-4am like it is early afternoon.
I remember when Don Juan noticed that Carlos was a "creature of the night", as he got to know him better. He would reflect how Carlos always seemed to have more power at night. Whereas Don Juan was drawn to the early morning brilliant sun, and was the complete opposite as far as he could tell.
It's interesting to see which parts of the day has the most "power" for you, it's also interesting to see how many on NR are creatures of the night. I do too "wake-up" at night, and have also had other people, without asking them, mentioned to me how I seem to be more awake and have more energy in the evening. And in the morning I drag myself through it as best I can, and start to feel better in the mid to late afternoon.
Melatonin has always been a great friend of mine. I've been taking it for at least 6 or more years by now. I started out with the regular type but after hanging out on the C's forum's learned the sublingual is best. I would highly recommend using the sublingual since it seem's to get into your bloodstream much quicker and you also need smaller doses of it to fall asleep.
I take a 2.5 mg. tablet and cut it into 4 equal pieces and that's enough to get me to sleep every night.
These are all good points. I recently started drinking coffee again only when I first get up, but that's probably not such a good idea either way. If melatonin does help, I like the idea of taking it sublingually to help it work more rapidly.
I have taken 30 mg of melatonin before to see what would happen. Nothing other than feeling as though it were only 3mg. There is a plateau beyond which more melatonin does nothing. My experience: .5mg - just enough to fall asleep but runs out after several hours, 1mg - just right, 2mg - get dizzily tired within half an hour, 3mg - groggy and discombobulated in the morning. I swallow a 1mg tablet and it kicks into full power within 45 minutes. Once knew a guy who took sublinguals that were sweetened for taste...he ran into dental problems from sleeping with a sugary mouth for months...so I would brush afterwards, just in case. Lastly, should add that melatonin has been non-addictive... going cold turkey just makes my sleep cycle fall back to its naturally delayed style, no withdrawal or anything.
I was doing so well. I guess it had to happen some day. I am now the proud owner of a "syndrome". And here I thought it was just because I could save more energy without having to interact with the daywalkers. I used to own a "disorder" back in school. Attention Deficit Disorder. I just called it severe boredom from lack of challenges. Didn't realize it was a disorder back then. If it wasn't for the pharmaceuticals I would have never known. ![]()
Just being playful, don't flog me!
Its a cyclical thing for me. This march was hell and Im quite sure two eclipses underscored by a change in season played a huge part in that. For myself, coffee is a given. I have found that eating a proper breakfast, weather I want to or not does infact help and the humble apple has some incredible "wake-up" properties to it.
This helps as well....Give it a try
Just being playful, don't flog me!
Play is good! Humor is supreme!
BTW, you all most likely have already heard of this, but I thought I'd offer up the link. I've used it for several years, and it's very potent (non-chemical, and non-addictive). Well worth the regisration fee.
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