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lyra,
I know I dont' have to tell you this, but I'll say it anyway, feel free to jump into any of my post's and air your view's, especially when you need to clear things up.
I do respect your opinion on all things and I also agree with Montalk and you about free will and sending energy. The free-will boundry is easy to over-step and people do have to be careful, so it's nice to have you making sure we all see this.
SednaSphere
Your reply is very calm. Your points are taken and I’m sure you will read between the lines of what’s going on here.
Lyra
Your post however is as psychotic as you accuse others of being. I have decided to answer you to at least clear the air.
No one “love bombed” you. <and tell you that it's obvious you need psychic love bombing> Your words not mine or my group. Get it right.
No one from my group emailed you!!
No one sent psychic attacks to you.
<But our friend Mavis/Loraine however, feels that I have no right to recommend Montalk, Stuart Wilde, Carlos Castaneda, Richard Bach, etc....................because I've had disagreements with people.................on a message board forum?? > I did not say you had no right to recommend etc. You made this up!! Period.
<At any rate, LONG story short, I come to find out that Loraine is part of a group of people down in Australia that call themselves "MAVIS", and Mavis' goal is, for lack of a better way to put it, to determine who and what in this world is in need of their psychic energy, and then psychically bomb that person with their good vibes.> You made this up. I have my emails still and never once mentioned that my group is called Mavis or they send psychic energy. Sending psychic energy is not something that I feel I am capable of doing. I’m here to learn other things. I also respect those who ask me to do otherwise. Nothing was sent to you at any time. It’s in your head.
<Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go get my psychic defenses lined up in preparation for the psychic retaliation that is guaranteed to follow this post.> Self fulfilling prophesy or again in your mind. It wont happen and not likely to. It’s in your head – period.
<It didn't matter though, because we traced the IP address, and it took all of about 30 seconds to match Loraine Young's IP with that of Mavis, from Australia. IPs are like fingerprints, Loraine. Remember that. > I’ve already thanked you for the lesson and advice and already told you I’m well up on computing.
<Convenient too how the context of such "blastings" was left out> I am studying today and haven’t the time but if you want proof that’s easy. Just look through some of your past postings.
<In speaking with another member of NR recently, she revealed to me that she came under psychic attack recently by a group of people from Australia who apparently were up in arms over her outspoken stance against some concepts that they apparently hold dear. > If you want people to stop being anonymous let this person come forward with any accusations. Tom can check the IP addresses again to see where it came from. Then you can all apologise.
<while simultaneously trying to educate you about some concepts that your group seems to be very much unaware of> Like you – if we need help,advice and education we will ask for it.
I will expect you to keep up with this stuff as I think you are someone who likes to have the last word. Feel free - it’s yours. If it amuses you to analyse my emails and posts go for it!
Imagine the fear you are engendering for yourself by assuming all this instead of letting go.
lyra,
I know I dont' have to tell you this, but I'll say it anyway, feel free to jump into any of my post's and air your view's, especially when you need to clear things up.I do respect your opinion on all things and I also agree with Montalk and you about free will and sending energy. The free-will boundry is easy to over-step and people do have to be careful, so it's nice to have you making sure we all see this.
Well, I do feel bad because I haven't posted much for the past two+ weeks, for a reason...it was because of stuff like this! Only to have this erupt. Figures. I've kept quiet about my off-forum encounters with Mavis, and just "let it go"...ironically, as she/they have "advised" me to do... only to be baited so that of course, it all gets dredged up......only to be re-told by them to "let it go." Whatever. !
And I do want to clarify that the Mavis group doesn't characterize what they do as love bombing - as mentioned, those were my word choices, not theirs. I don't know what else to call what they do though. I just know that, from what I gathered in my email exchanges, "Mavis" is the name of a group of people in Australia, some of whom live together in a house, and share the computers and such (from what I was told) and they do this thing where they collectively pool their energy to focus it on things in the world that they feel could benefit or use the psychic "help." But it seems they may be the same group that also psychically slimes people when somebody says something they don't agree with. And if they're not, then my apologies for the "libel" as Mavis termed it. But I make no apologies for calling her/them out on the underhanded baiting tactic used to draw me into this exchange, or calling her/them out on their psycho responses. !
The thing is, I can understand how people think they're doing good when they pool their "positive psychic energy" and direct it at people/areas of the world. There are people doing this who really and sincerely mean well and it comes from a good place. And I can understand how people with my view probably come across as sounding totally cold and heartless. But when you tell somebody that you're going to direct your group's psychic energy onto them because they "clearly need it"...then you've crossed the line into free will infringement! yikes. At any rate, hopefully something beneficial can come of all of this.....
Lyra
Posted the last one before I read yours. You have got me and my group all wrong but never mind. We are not likely to get to know each other after these exchanges. Pity as we can always learn from each other.
No one “love bombed� you.
I was told I would have psychic energy directed at me. And actually, I did clarify in my previous post, (and the one before that) that love bombing was my word choice, for lack of a better way to describe what it is you guys apparently are doing.
No one from my group emailed you!!
We traced the IP addresss. It was you.
When I emailed you, you forwarded my email onto your friend "Malores", who I went back and forth with for 2 or 3 emails.
Nobody ever denied emailing me, at any time during our email exchange.
I would think that if "Mavis" didn't email me, then it would have come out in our email exchange at some point.....no?
Also, I find it amazingly coincidental that your friend "Malores" told me the exact same thing, word for word, to "let it go."
If "Mavis" didn't email me.........................then why do you all talk the same way, why did nobody ever deny at any point emailing me, and why does the IP trace to "Mavis" ?
Loony tunes.
No one sent psychic attacks to you.
I was told that - unsolicited - psychic energy would be sent my way. And as stated, yes, I consider that to be a psychic attack, thank you.
I did not say you had no right to recommend etc. You made this up!! Period.
Did I?
You made this up. I have my emails still and never once mentioned that my group is called Mavis or they send psychic energy. Sending psychic energy is not something that I feel I am capable of doing. I’m here to learn other things. I also respect those who ask me to do otherwise. Nothing was sent to you at any time. It’s in your head.
1. The IP address traced to Mavis, and Mavis only.
2. Nobody denied at any time during our email exchange that your group had emailed me;
3. You talk the same way, saying the same things, word for word.
Loony tunes.
Self fulfilling prophesy or again in your mind. It wont happen and not likely to. It’s in your head – period.
Maybe so...and like I said in my last post, if you're not the same group from Australia that psychically slimes people that you disagree with, then my apologies.
Like you – if we need help,advice and education we will ask for it.
Who's "we" ? The same group you deny earlier in your response? I'm truly confused. But I think that's what you're trying to do here.
Imagine the fear you are engendering for yourself by assuming all this instead of letting go.
Loony tunes. "Let it goooooooooooo! Just let it gooooooooooooooo! Never mind that I picked the fight with you through underhanded baiting tactics! Let it goooooooooooooo lyra! Listen to your fear! Oh, the fear! Let the fear goooooooooooooo lyra! Let it goooooooooooooooooo!"
Mavis, I don't feel it would be fair for me to try to "read between the lines." I can
only speak from my own experiences with unwanted energy being sent my way. It is not pleasant. Sometimes words, intents and energy do not match. Anytime there
is not a match, it's best to clarify with words to be fair, and follow up with intuitive and creative approaches. Getting someone on the defensive will only cause them to
lock up more, however.
Different subject matter, same internet forum culture.
Y'all are trippin'!
Hey Pokerboy
Ya got our number. Ya right. I sense your very intelligent.
Hey Pokerboy
Ya got our number. Ya right. I sense your very intelligent.
Thank you!
But honestly.....I'm just really stoned.....so I'm not too terribly wrapped up in my ego right now.
If it weren't for that....I'd prolly try to insert myself in this drama....
Oops....I kinda just did. lol!
You people funcin' rock! Fo' Realz!
Not to keep this going and going, as this should be the end of it after this, but in addition to the other three points I made that proved your group DID email me, I only just caught this huge contradiction this morning. I wish I had seen it last night.....
First Mavis wrote (in the post that kicked off this entire back and forth fiasco):
I was once admonished by a NR member for wanting to do just what Stuie is advocating.
Quote:
<to impose help/love onto somebody who hasn't asked for it is freewill violation>
<if they haven't asked for that then it could backfire on you>I'm surprised this person hasn't seen this thread....
Then Mavis wrote......
No one from my group emailed you!!
!!!!!!!!!
If your group never emailed me.......then where else did that admonishment come from?
??
Or will it be more deflecting attention onto any other poster who happens to post here?
wow. This whole thing is just trippy and surreal at this point. I don't think I've ever encountered something like this on NR....! I'm not sure how many people we're dealing with when we talk to "Mavis", but seriously, you guys gotta get it together. You're either lying, or somebody is clearly out of the loop about who's emailing who on your shared computer in your shared living house.
Lyra
Do you ever give up??? "Last word Lyra" You said someone from my "Group" slimed someone and I said "No one from my group emailed. Maybe I didn't make it clear enough. For heavens sake - you are a persistent one. R U thick?
OK I am a single lady with two incredible sons
We have the house networked - all on line at the same time
One son is currently in Taiwan doing post doc work
The second one is home but planning to leave
No other people in our house!!!!!!!!!!!
I had a family member staying with me
She used our computers duh!
She has since gone home
She is a member of NR
We tried to delete ourselves but there is no function for deleting members
She emailed you first
I also emailed you
You replied several times
Maloros is my email
young loraine is not my email
Nice to know privacy is not respected here
Should I post your email address?
No member of my group lives in my house!!!!!!!!!!!
My group is a local one made up of very caring people
Most are not online and wouldn't dream of "Sliming " people
They wouldn't know what it meant anyway
I would not insult them relating your ****
The group is not called Mavis
Mavis is a person - namely me
We don't "love bomb" people
We respect peoples rights
Do you?
You have let your imagination run wild
Get your facts straight and it wont happen
You are what psychologists call projecting
Google it
Why do you have a need to prove points?
Yes, you are right - It should be the end but I suspect you will keep it going ad nauseum
I repeat - you are a very troubled person
How simpler could this be?
Keep going if you want.
Do you ever give up??? "Last word Lyra"....Why do you have a need to prove points?......
Because you brought the points up to begin with when you "anonymously" quoted from our email exchange. I didn't start this. You did. Take responsibility for that. If you don't want somebody to prove points to you, then don't instigate a dialogue with them in the first place and put them in that position where they will respond to you, and "prove points."
Also, people usually say what you've said here when they've gotten themselves into a jam, and now want to wiggle out of it and pretend it didn't happen. Rather than simply addressing the points that have been made, and admitting to any obvious errors or logical fallacies, they instead do what you did.
I had a family member staying with me
She used our computers duh!
She has since gone home
She is a member of NR
She emailed you first
I also emailed you
You replied several times
Maloros is my email
young loraine is not my email
The group is not called Mavis
Mavis is a person - namely me
It's a bit of a tangled mess, isn't it? What you say here seems to make sense, and if I was an outsider reading this I'd go, Oh, I see what she's saying, I get what happened here...........but the problem is, this doesn't mesh/match up with what was told to me in the emails and by whom. Things are changing as it goes along. And we'll leave it at that, because this is getting surreal at this point.
Nice to know privacy is not respected here
What did you think could happen when you "anonymously" quoted me from an email exchange, baiting me in an underhanded way, while leaving out the context of why I would have said that to you in an email? When you do that, you'll get called out to the forum. If you don't want to be called out, then don't play that way.
Should I post your email address?
Sure. Let me help you though, save you the trouble:
scorpio948@yahoo.com
carissaconti@yahoo.com
We respect peoples rights
Do you?
Absolutely. But if you're trying to imply that this exchange - initiated by you, mind you - is somehow an example of me not respecting people's rights, then I think you may have your concepts confused.
Now, it's back to the self-imposed "Read Only" corner for me. 
Hi Sedna Sphere,
I am in complete agreement with your post. I especially agree with not sending prayers, light, energy, etc...to anyone unless they request it.
I was told once, that if you meditate (or at least quiet down! 
) and ask the essence of that person's permission to send healing energy to them, that you will know intuitively if its OK with them to do so.
The P's and Abe tell us (and I say this, too! 
) the frequencies that we ourselves hold and radiate outward, benefit others ( IF they want and allow it) and OURSELVES. We are still each individually, I believe, creating our own world. To be kind and well intended towards others is a good thing ... because I truly believe that what we GIVE OUT ...returns to us. Be it positive or negative. It's all reflective. To me, the 'secret' of this whole thing is: Concentrating upon my own frequencies, period. Even when we are 'trying to heal the world' ... I think perhaps, it still can be interpreted as our own individual world...
So much for my radical hippie days when I successfully made it onto the Pinko Commie list! ... LOL
I was taught early the basic metaphysical etiquette, and number one is: never pray for someone unless they ask you specifically to do so, because that is an invasion of their mental privacy, and none of your business.
The first impulse I felt was to protest against that. But I figured the statement is absolutely right. I initially thought, prayer is not forcing willpower upon anyone because it lets higher positive forces decide what to do about the “problem" of another being. But I think prayer is not much more than a decisive declaration towards the universe to be ready to receive help – to be open for it, since benevolent energy/beings is all around us. Praying for people who didn’t ask for it, would mean that you determine for them that they are ready to be “helped" . Thanks for posting that!
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