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AB wrote:

How do numbers hold our spirit in plight?
Read "The Reign of Quantity and the Signs of the Times"  by Rene Guenon.

In numerology, the numbers are nonmaterial entities, quite separate from the idea of quantity. It has been said that "everything is veiled in numbers."

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Jen wrote:
Barefoot Doc wrote:

The article in my post on this page  explores this area a bit. Don't know if this is what Energy had in mind though. http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=1705

thanks, skimmed and saved it.  I don't agree with the author's conclusions about the number nine though.  Far from being the number of "matter", it is the number of universal consciousness.

from crystalinks:

NINE

Nine is composed of the all-powerful 3x3.

It is the Triple Triad - Completion; fulfillment; attainment; beginning and the end; the whole number; a celestial and angelic number - the Earthly Paradise.

It is the number of the circumference, its division into 90 degrees and into 360 for the entire circumference.

Nine is symbolized by the two triangles which are a symbol of male, fire, mountain and female, water, cave principles.

Cultural References

Buddhist tradition holds nine to be the supreme spiritual power, and a celestial number.

Celtic legend symbolizes nine as a highly significant number. It is a central number with the eight directions with the center making nine. The Triple Goddesses are thrice three. There are nine Celtic maidens and nine white stones that symbolize the nine virgins attendant on Bridgit. Nine is connected with the Beltane Fire rites which are attended by 81( 8+ 1= 9) men, nine at a time.

Chinese: Nine is qa celestial power. It is 3x3 being the most auspicious of all the numbers. Nine also signifies the eight directions with the center as the ninth point known as the Hall of Light. There are nine great social laws and classes of officials. In land divisions for Feng Shui there are eight exterior squares for cultivation of the land by holders and the central, and ninth, square is a "god's acre", dedicated to Shang-ti, the supreme ruler. It is also known as the Emperor's Field, giving homage and respect denoting the position of heavenly power.

Christian: Nine is one of the numbers that appears scantly in Christian symbolism. There are the triple triads of choirs of angels and nine spheres and nine rings around hell.

Egyptian mythology nine represents The Ennead.

The Ennead

The Ennead were the nine great Osirian gods: Atum, Shu, Tefnut, Geb, Nut, Osiris, Isis, Set, and Nephthys. The term is also used to describe the great council of the gods as well as a collective term for all the gods.

Atum was the first who created himself (or arose out of Nu, the primal nothingness) and who created Shu and Tefnut from either his spittle or his blood. From their union came Geb and Nut. Their children, the great-grandchildren of Atum, were the first gods of earth: Osiris and Isis, and Set and Nephthys. From those four were all the pharaohs and many of the gods descended.

Graeco-Roman: There are nine Gods and later nine muses.

also see http://www.egyptianmyths.net/ennead.htm

Hebrew: Nine is pure intelligence ( eight was perfect intellingence ). Also represents truth, since it reproduces itself when multiplied.

Kabbalism nine symbolizes foundation.

Hindu: Nine is the number of Agni, fire. The square of the nine forms the mandala of eighty-one squares and leads to, and encloses the Universe.  (90 X 9 = 810)

Mayan: There are nine underworlds each ruled by a God. We find this reference to "nine underworlds" present in many cultures and beliefs.

Pythagorean: The nine is the limit of all numbers, all others existing and coming from the same. ie: 0 to 9 is all one needs to make up an infinite amount of numbers.

Scandinavian: Odin/Woden hung for nine days and nights on the Yggdrasil to win the secrets of wisdom for humankind. Skeldi, the northern Persephone, the goddess of snow, lives in her mountain for three months and by Niord's sea for nine months. Nine is the sacred number in Scandinavian-Teutonic symbolism.

Hi Jen, i am learning here so bear with me, just some thoughts not beliefs.

The article concludes the matter world vibrates with the numbers 1-9, being the limit of physical reality as 9 always becomes itself again.

The 9 only transended by that which feeds it the 10, 10 the true kingdom of god/spirit.
The number of 9s that appear in nature amazed me beyond measure the first time i read that article.

The whole article may explain where those beliefs, religions alien 9 links come from.
http://www.equilibra.uk.com/shop2.shtml

Nine has always been the focus of Man himself and the ego consciousness, which drives him, because most people only choose to see physically and understand intellectually. After all are we not taught from a very early age in most societies to be intellectual rather than spiritual? Therefore, what we observe intellectually all about us becomes ‘all that is’ to our ego, and all around us is based upon the numbers of 1-9 - the end result of creation, matter, the physical aspect.
Accepting this, we can also accept that the physical and the intellect can go no further because once it becomes nine we know it will only keep on repeating itself. The vibration of nine is the limit of physical creation; just as the speed of light - a nine - is the limit of speed in the physical universe. Could this be therefore, the number of Man in a physical and intellectual sense? This is what the Book of Revelation tells us - that 666 (nine) is the number of (a) man. Therefore the number of the Beast is the number of Man; that is, Man is confined by the number to being a beast - i.e. to expressing the baser aspects of the self. Nine is the limit of the ego, the limit of the intellect. Nine is a vibrational prison, as it can be no other than what it is, a vibration which keeps repeating itself and like the speed of light cannot be physically or intellectually transcended.

Is this why we keep making the same mistakes over and over again? Because we have become locked into our intellect and we are becoming more like machines than the integrated, loving and totally interconnected consciousness we truly are? Similar to the goldfish in a bowl swimming around in continuous circles? Can we understand how Man has become so fascinated by and locked into the number nine, and therefore mathematics and geometric shapes? Man continues to use mathematics and geometry to express his understanding of the deeper workings of Nature and the Cosmos and forgets, or is not allowed to remember they are merely a symbolic representation of hidden truths.

9 is a vibrational prison?

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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Barefoot Doc wrote:

9 is a vibrational prison?

No, I feel that author's interpretation is mistaken. 9, the number of completion and wholeness, is the number of the Tao.  And, fittingly,  in analyzing the word Tao,
the letters add to 9:  T = 2, A =1, O =6 =2+1+6 = 9.

It is the unchanging Reality and Truth behind the the appearance of ceaseless change.  It is what Ra speaks of as Intelligent Infinity: " The one undifferentiated intelligent infinity, unpolarized, full and whole, is the macrocosm of the mystery-clad being."

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One more thing, LOVE also vibrates to 9: L=3, O=6, V=4, E=5 = 3+6+4+5 = 18 = 1+8 = 9. 

And real love is about freedom, no rules, no conditions.

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AB wrote:

"love" "vibrates" to 9 in base 10, in other numbering bases, you get different results.

That's true.  Good thing we use the base ten system wink

Unlike "tao" which stays unchanged smile coz numbering base dependent digits are not added.

Not sure I understand what you are saying, could you clarify?

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Amazing artwork
The STS-STO thing IS the same old duality nonsense.
The synergy idea works out.

StarCat

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AB wrote:

But life is not scientific. Start measuring it, and it will lose its magic.

Measuring dis-spells magic. cool

Life IS scientific.  Start measuring it, and it will lose it's illusion. 

Then we can be spoiled by its magic on whim and with joy.

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pokerboy101381 wrote

Life IS scientific.  Start measuring it, and it will lose it's illusion. 

Then we can be spoiled by its magic on whim and with joy.

Siri Arc, followed your link from  http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=4532

This is the jewel which currently crystalises, right  here, right now.  Love it.  Thanks.  smile

When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. Jimi Hendrix 

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Re:

But life is not scientific. Start measuring it, and it will lose its magic.
vs.
Life IS scientific.  Start measuring it, and it will lose it's illusion.

Now, friends, the correct phrasing is:

Life IS magic, start measuring it and it will illude science.

wink

http://www.holoscience.com/news.php

Love is the law, love under will.
   
     Zejith Themis
      .:420-510:.
    FIAT IUSTITIA
    RUAT COELUM

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SiriArc wrote:

New World #1: for the good, shiny, sto, fill in the blank_______ people.

New World #2: for the bad, clueless, sts, fill in the blank_______ people.

Is this somehow different than the heaven / hell, good / evil, fill in the blank_______  distorted duality crap that’s been believed for *lifetimes* ?

smile

Service to Others IS Service to Self. 

What hurts others, hurts yourself.  What hurts yourself, hurts others too. 

What helps others, helps yourself.  What helps yourself, helps others too.

It doesn't serve anyone to be "left behind".  We're all in this together.

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http://forum.noblerealms.org/img/avatars/1214.jpg

It doesn't serve anyone to be ‘left behind‘.  We're all in this together.

It doesn't serve anyone to be ‘left behind‘.  We're all in this together.

It doesn't serve anyone to be ‘left behind‘.  We're all in this together.

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From the pen of Ben Lee, another aussie hottie


I woke up this morning
I suddenly realised
that we're all in this together
I started smiling
'Cause you were smiling
And we're all in this together
I'm made of atoms
and you're made of atoms
And we're all in this together.
And long division just doesn't matter
because we're all in this together

I saw you walking
In the city
and we're all in this together
The city's changing
cause we are changing
and we are all in this together
every 12 seconds
someone remembers
that we're all in this together
In the kitchen of your rent control apartment

come on baby i don't mean to rush you
i only wanted to reach out and touch you
I've got to start to open my heart

I know you think about jumping ship before it sinks
but we are all in this together
ask a scientist
it's quantam physics
we are all in this together
on the subway we feel like strangers
but we're all in this together
yeah i love you and you love her and she loves him
and we're all in this together

You know baby there's never been protection
and all the history of human connection
come on darling its alright to show me
you dont ever need to be lonely
once you start to open your heart

I saw you crying
I started crying
cause we're all in this together
and religion is a big decision
but we're all in this together

we are all in this together (repeated)

all together now...

When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. Jimi Hendrix 

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Beautifully put Siri, and the poem you shared free*world is something I JUST MAY post at work.  Thanks cool

If there is no time
      Then you have time for everything.
   You're never in a hurry.
That's true freedom.

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Glad you liked it Manyeagles.  It is actually a song which I didn't demonstrate very well.  However, the song as sung by Ben Lee is worth a listen if you can download the mp3.  Enjoy

When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. Jimi Hendrix