Topic: A Polarization Example, or Individual Growth?

The author of "Your Aura and Your Chakras", Karla McLaren, has quit publishing and is going to school for a sociology degree. She has written an article in the May issue of "Skeptical Inquirer" magazine, and swung competely into the hard science
"camp", but more than this, she feels that ALL beliefs that have fallen in the metaphysical category, not only fluffy New Age love and light stuff, (which she never presented it as, anyway) are harmful, invalid and irrational, it would seem.

Having noticed a lack of interested in, and perhaps a greater difficulty in, doing certain aura and chakra energy work set forth in the book by this former leader in the genre, I set out to find her latest work online, and instead found this apologia.
Otherwise, I would have gone on believing and purchasing her books and audios, which are still for sale at such outlets as Sounds True. The reason I will avoid them now is not so much that the information is invalid or even retroactively insincere, but that the psychometric "charge" has been removed, and this makes it almost "dead" in that sense.

Perhaps the predicted "chakra lockdown" which was indeed predicted for 2006 is in effect? This doesn't mean we can't do the meditations, which are real and work, but only that, as Zarg mentioned in his elephant analogy, most people will cease to do them and neglect their energy, pulling it down such that it makes it more difficult for those of us still keepin' on. They have removed the "bigwigs" in the various Believer Categories, and polarized the "Cautious Believers" ( which is the best stance to take, I feel) into the more Hardline Skeptic end of the sprectrum.

Within this one person, apparently, she went from a True Believer to a True Skeptic within a brief period. It makes me wonder how this gells with the TimeLine
and if it is a part of the plan to further stigmatize "those crazies" (i.e. us, the ones who have an idea of what's really going on) in order to do...something. The Wave, the Reptilian Plan...I'm sure it must have to do with this. On top of this, I think it is sadly notable to "throw out the baby with the bathwater" and assume that
there is no real dialogue between camps. I'm fairly certain that this is all a part of a smokescreen ultimately, although she may not even realize this herself. What do you think?

Re: A Polarization Example, or Individual Growth?

It's hard to not believe that some very unpleasant event occurred in her life -- bad divorce, loss of a child, etc. -- that created this pivot in her life.  AND, in my opinion, she might have had her own personal agenda with her work.  As in -- doing this will "save" me from the suffering of bad divorce, loss of a child etc.

It's rare that people shift into a seemingly opposite and  new mindset -- abruptly -- either into a "positive or negative" one without some manifested reason.

At least that's been my experience --- and yes, it could be Lizzie influence that caused this of course but I tend to believe that without her agreement the result (True Skeptic) couldn't have come into play.

And good to see you again SednaSphere!!

Christine B.

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Well, then it is my firm opinion she never really "believed" anyway.  Much less was she a "leader".

Once you go light, you don't turn around.  And if you do, you were never truly light to begin with.

Unfortunately, many of our "leaders" have the appearance of being genuine and couldn't be further from it.  The fact is, whether these leaders actively choose to do this or not (turning around), it has the end result that the "PTB" and hard science are looking for.  It turns many of their followerrs around as well, effectively putting them straight back to sleep.

What is someone like, oh I dont know, David Icke?  came out and said "oh you know what, I've decided I was wrong all along and none of this hoaky stuff is true".  What effect would that have on his followers?  And then think of what effect it has on those who were skeptical to begin with, but could later have started to accept alternative theories?  Killed that baby before it was even born.

Just my take.

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Ps.  The reason I mention David above is because I've noticed him appearing on shows for Discovery et. al, even though he *for a fact* knows their attitudes toward these sort of things.  They debunk and make a mockery of such people/things.  Therefore I suggest he's either become a full-blown idiot, or he is really the mole/disinfo agent some people have suspected him to be, and he may potentially perform a "turn-around" in the near future.  Just a possible scenario, I have no proof.

This is no time for the righteous
Only the wicked survive
Bake up a batch of the Yellow Cake
Bake up a batch of the lies
- - - - -[ Yellow Cake - Ministry - Rio Grande Blood (2006)

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Yes, Christine, I was thinking that perhaps some life event triggered this, as well.
It was a suprise. And thanks for the welcome back.
Risen, I know what you mean. Perhaps it was more of a "monkey see, monkey do"
thing, albiet a sophisticated metaphysical monkey. Once she got some success,
the guilt hit, and she reacted in a knee jerk fashion to align herself with so called
"real knowledge," as she puts it in the article. Or perhaps it was all planned out by
the TPTB ahead of time.
I don't know. But I'm always fascinated by the choices people make, and how they
change. I did find an interesting discussion on a google chat room about this, and some real hard core skeptics duking it out with the gnosis crowd.

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In this world, it seems to be more important to be effective, than to be right.

"Once you go light, you don't turn around."  -  Why not?   Turning around is easy....you just...turn around.   Simple as that.  It's not very hard.

How do you define genuine?  Is genuine remaining static in your beliefs?  Or is genuine simply keeping it real, with yourself....no matter what the cost.

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Wow, you guys are really something!--meant as BIG compliment... this NR site just blows the rest away. My own observations here: My mom and Aunt say they've seen David Icke change over the years. After awhile you just can't 'get away' from all that you concentrate on, because you keep drawing those negative vibes to you .. and some people's idea of 'the only truth' is when its saturated in negative vibes.
I'm a big Pleiadian fan and have seen THEM change for the 'better' more positive after laying out all the 'behind the scenes' stuff for us. One thing they said that has always helped to lift me up during my down times is this: (paraphrasing slightly here smile ) "The only time anything NEW can get through to you people is when you say you have stopped believing in it all.' You set up such barriers when you think you know it all so it becomes necessary for you to LOSE it so some new and possibly better ideas can get past your insistance that you NOW own all the truth.' So when I have a 'down, don't believe a damn thing day' ...I just tell myself: 'BOY, Summer, you must be learning a LOT today'...Life no longer remains life when its static..that's death, according to physicists... So, I just intend to stay open. Sometimes its a little tough! smile But hey, we are all doing OK. I know I'll learn a lot from posters like you all!
Peace, Summer

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Hourthirteen wrote:

Wow, you guys are really something!--meant as BIG compliment... this NR site just blows the rest away. My own observations here: My mom and Aunt say they've seen David Icke change over the years. After awhile you just can't 'get away' from all that you concentrate on, because you keep drawing those negative vibes to you .. and some people's idea of 'the only truth' is when its saturated in negative vibes.
I'm a big Pleiadian fan and have seen THEM change for the 'better' more positive after laying out all the 'behind the scenes' stuff for us. One thing they said that has always helped to lift me up during my down times is this: (paraphrasing slightly here smile ) "The only time anything NEW can get through to you people is when you say you have stopped believing in it all.' You set up such barriers when you think you know it all so it becomes necessary for you to LOSE it so some new and possibly better ideas can get past your insistance that you NOW own all the truth.' So when I have a 'down, don't believe a damn thing day' ...I just tell myself: 'BOY, Summer, you must be learning a LOT today'...Life no longer remains life when its static..that's death, according to physicists... So, I just intend to stay open. Sometimes its a little tough! smile But hey, we are all doing OK. I know I'll learn a lot from posters like you all!
Peace, Summer

Word to big bird!

"Knowing it all" is the human security blanket of choice.

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SednaSphere wrote:

Perhaps the predicted "chakra lockdown" which was indeed predicted for 2006 is in effect?

I hadn't heard about this.  I thought things were getting more "open" rather than on "lockdown".  Though I don't generally read much of these sorts of ideas; is it quite a widespread idea?

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Unfortunately the exact links aren't readily memorable to me! However, a number
of the links on the Montalk site, if I am recalling correctly, mention this. It may be
in accord with certain Native American tribe' prophecies. The idea is the TPTB are using HAARP, using mental influence, social engineering, etc to cover up advanced technologies capable of reading, influencing, polluting the auras and the chakras
of the general public. They have different terms for the chakras, centers, etc, but
in essence the idea makes sense if you consider that on earth most Westerners, the power bloc, haven't heard of chakras, or if they have, pooh poohed them until very recently, at least. Yoga is becoming more popular, but gurus confused the chakras in many people's minds, and besides, whenever anything esoteric or its related disciplines, like yoga, become more popular, it's a near certaintly that the popular versions contain incorrect information and delete more important information. I speak from a modest amount of experience. But most New Age people don't want to hear this stuff. They believe they are beyond influence, and many times they base their self-esteem on being above it all. Then when any one
of them gets sick or has a breakdown due to a combination of their own ignored free will and these outside influences, there is nowhere for them to go but back to
square one, and to figure it out on their own, if they ever can or will. It's not a widespread or popular belief because it allows one the freedom that
you have been sold: "You can be free if you meditate this way, do this, things are really not that bad, relax, and do it OUR way." When the freedom is already yours, if you utilize it. That kind of thing. That's one reason why Montalk advocates using
protective devices to block out mind control waves. But one mention of that to the
wrong people ( and they are all over the place), and "woo hooo you're nuts!" is the response you get. Then they take another swig of vodka.
How a chakra "lockdown" could be done: remote influencing, HAARP, other devices,
belief that it doesn't exist so you don't do any work on yourself...can anyone think of more ways?

It's also clear to me that those who keep their minds questioning and exploring, and don't cease, maintain their basic auric and chakric health, while those who align themselves with particular approaches weaken it. It' a much more rigorous and difficult path. Look at LipstickMystic. If certain symbols can make people sick, it must also be possible to "jam", at least temporarily, certain chakras in the
general public. Look at the flak she gets just by posting an alternative, critical view of Reiki. They don't want to hear it. But they'll just keep going in circles. Since time immemorial , before the days of Merlin, it's been a big kahuna mind war on this planet, from my observations.

Anybody else heard anything, had any experiences? Care to share?

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Here is one from my links section that sort of relates to the idea of a chakra lockdown, or at least a "frequency fence":

GLOBAL MIND CONTROL SLATED FOR HUMANITY BY 2004
--the Next Revolutionary Battle will be Fought within Your Own DNA--

By Spring 2004, an invasive mind control technology known as a  ³Frequency Fence ² is slated for implementation onto global society. This Frequency Fence is a bio-neurological, electromagnetic induced form of mind control which will block your higher sensory abilities. A literal "perceptual harness" or "mental prison" will be built around you without you even knowing it is happening, and the scariest part is, your five senses will not alert to you that anything is wrong.

continued here

Sounds like a wet dream of STS elitist factions. I think something like this is possible to attempt, but not with complete success. From what I can tell, chemtrails may be something along these lines, a conductive grid that may sample the frequencies of the population below to monitor for "DNA activation" rates then employ biological vectors and scalar EM techniques to counter that.

Sedna wrote:

The author of "Your Aura and Your Chakras", Karla McLaren, has quit publishing and is going to school for a sociology degree. She has written an article in the May issue of "Skeptical Inquirer" magazine, and swung competely into the hard science
"camp", but more than this, she feels that ALL beliefs that have fallen in the metaphysical category, not only fluffy New Age love and light stuff, (which she never presented it as, anyway) are harmful, invalid and irrational, it would seem.

Yeah, that's pretty suspicious. It could be something as "normal" as some great tragedy in her life making her disillusioned. But in my opinion, cases like that sound a lot like reanimation / duplication / total reprogramming. I agree with Risen though, it takes nothing for a poser to switch beliefs. Someone of conviction requires heavier methods of conversion. Ever see the miniseries "V" ? -- public figures and dissidents were put through a conversion process by the reptiles which left them entirely reprogrammed.

I highly doubt that you can be taken out, chakra-cauterized, or reprogrammed without some incremental process of weakening that would take total ignorance to let slip. But one manifestation of that could be prolonged negativity that shrivels the soul until it becomes too weak to resist the moment of conversion. Some people really enjoy their own bitterness, rage, paranoia...or revel in their self-pity and victimhood...and they would be prime for targeting. The Ra Material detailed one process by which positive individuals are targeted, encircled, worn down, and eliminated or converted. It happens. And it's happening at a greater pace now than before.  Part of the polarization process... those on the fence are in a vulnerable position.

I'm reminded of a particular passage from the book "Brotherhood" by the author of "Impersonal Life":

[...] the Evil Masters, where opportunity offers, will deliberately break the Divine Law by disloding and driving out the Souls of the infants, thus stealing their bodies from them, or by driving out Souls from mature bodies, dispossessing them, and thereafter obsessing and impersonating such Souls to their friends and associates. Such in the near future will be of common occurrence, and will be made easy for them by all who succumb to fits of passion, indulgence in intense hatred, jealousy, or self-pity, or continual brooding over wrongs done to them, or habitual condemnation of others, and who will suddenly wake one day in another world minus their physical bodies. (Brotherhood, p. 76)

Mentioned this in one of my articles.

SednaSphere wrote:

How a chakra "lockdown" could be done: remote influencing, HAARP, other devices,

Well, there's something I have experienced for myself, and the closest thing I have read which approximates it is what the C's call "FRV zapping." Basically it's an external scalar electromagnetic modulation of your FRV, your soul vibe. It depresses it and makes you artificially negative and reactive. It can be done with ELF waves as well... read about an experiment where a room had a large coil built into the ceiling, and when pulsed at a certain frequency the people in the room got agitated and even hostile. But every once in a while, for a period lasting no more than a week leading up to some stupid matrix-manipulated energy extracting attempt, I get this 8 Hz pulsation of light in my field of vision, most noticeable in dim lighting. Looks like there's a pulsating night light in the room.

This keeps up for several days during which I feel this strange agitation, like being fatigued but just having drank too much coffee. The kind of energy that makes one breathe shallowly, get easily distracted, and bounce the knees incessantly. Heart rate goes up, sleep becomes uneasy and filled with negativity, attempting to wear me down. This agitation puts me in a less focused and more reactive state, basically cut off from my heart and crown chakras, which then preps me for being 'set up' by an externally orchestrated event to make a reckless move, the goal of it all.

I no longer fall for it since I know how to override the entrainment and reconnect with my heart. Sounds paranoid to anyone who hasn't experienced it, but I am observant and intuitive and have eliminated all other possibilities. So this is the closest to "chakra blocking" that I have encountered. If you can overcome it, you only become stronger.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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Fascinating story about the coil. Yep, I too know the agitated state you speak of!
And when it happens, indeed, connecting to one's heart is the way to go, no doubt about it. This can take some effort at times due to the spastic, uncalm energies
that are created by interference. I don't have the nightlight effect, but I know when I am being messed with at this point, versus it being a fully self generated thing or conventionally explained psychological effect. It took study to sort some of that out,
along with experience.

Huh, it's just so amazing though. If this is a case of a poser, then think how skillfully it is done. I'm grateful I started getting into the alternative research.
It's funny. I did alot of good work with the techniques in the book, but at some
point, I ran into a statement on Crystalinks, in addition to this "frequency fence"
(thanks for posting that link, by the way) information, which contradicted some of
the book's info. Ellie said that if you're still trying to burn contracts, then you don't
have a real picture of what's going on, that there are no contracts. As I am constantly cross-comparing things as I learn and grow, I put it on the back burner
and made a mental note of it. This, combined with my seeing holographic people,
tended to make the material in the book seem ineffectual in the light of a greater
interplay of new information. And so it turned out to be that the author herself did not really believe the information at this time. An interesting synchronization of events.

Ah, well, I put the work in, which was not victim based at all, in fact, the opposite of that, so I at least strengthened myself by getting to know my own energy system and letting go of old resentments, anger, etc. This is why it's so amazing to
me, whatever the cause and ultimate implications. I do agree with pokerboy that one can be genuine and still change radically, as long as one remains, as I put it,
"a flexible flyer." Being "real with oneself no matter what the cost" is important, and
I am in no way assuming that there are nefarious reason's for McLaren's changes.
I admit I found it astounding, but  I put in a great deal of inner work, most of
which I feel is valid as long as one is sincere. I guess the lesson for me is to keep
information about spiritual practices up do date on a monthly basis, and to look into science more. It also never hurts to see things from a point of view which is in opposition to one's own, to try to see why, to look into what it is others see in their changes. After all, scientists are often seeing much more in the physical than many
supposedly more spiritual types see in it. Ideally the differing views have an interplay, and now more than ever, they are.

At this point I'm sensing, however, that she was sitting on the fence until she got knocked over by a combination of internal conflics (i.e. the left hand not knowing
what the right was doing; turns out her father's a hard science/skeptic guy, and
her mother and sisters lifelong "crunchy granola types" whom she sided with until this point) and outer pressures of constant interaction with low vibe people and entites and thoughforms. The "frequency fence" also probably exists in some form
to help create the jumpy electric matrix of inanity surrounding this confused victim/predator mind soup. I dunno!

Hint: it's lousy soup. That much I know.

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Montalk, thanks so much for bringing up the strange agitation thing.  I have had that on and off for about 10yrs. I too would experience the fatigue but also feel restless at the same time, all the same sympotms you described. I had all kinds of bloodtests done thinking I had some wierd thing. My three kids and my brother all do the knee bounce thing too, its like we cant control it.  That makes total sense to me now.   I feel like lately all I can do is read everybody's post and go *holy crap, that's happening to me too!*. But in doing that, it's starting to *bring it all together* for me. Hopefully soon, I can post something a little more profound than *me too*!l

In man's analysis and understanding of himself, it is as well to know from whence he came as whither he is going.   Edgar Cayce

Beliefs are tools for social conditioning, rather than expressions of inner realization or inner truth.   unknown
Ad Verecundiam

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treehugger,
I wonder if EMF's could be the cause of your nervousness?   I'm amazed at how restless you and your family seem to be.   I'm sure we all have a little of this, but not to the extreme you seem to have it.   Have you looked into EMF blocking devices?    There's a website that has some interesting products for this:

http://www.earthcalm.com/

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I read somewhere (sorry I don't have a link) about someone channeling Satan and the words were analyzed using reverse speech technology. At least 3 times Satan said he is not afraid, he has everything under control with the "bubble". I'm thinking perhaps chemtrails may be a part of this, a giant envelope electromagnetically controlled to keep out any waves of positive energy designed to cleanse the earth and the consciousness of humans.
  Regarding coils, I had a local in Sedona tell me that 10 yrs ago the govt had buried very large copper coils in the vortexes there. He said it was in the local newspaper at the time.

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WEOPPOSEDECEPTION wrote:

I read somewhere (sorry I don't have a link) about someone channeling Satan and the words were analyzed using reverse speech technology. At least 3 times Satan said he is not afraid, he has everything under control with the "bubble".

Well given that Satan is the biggest liar and deceiver in the universe I think that's extremely encouraging! I think I'd be more concerned if he said he WAS afraid! smile

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