Timeline Jumping or Manipulation? (Page 1 of 6)

Yes, I think so.  And elements of the US government are likely connected with the entertainment industry.  This may be related to why we can see movies like The Forgotten, Dark City, X-Files, Monster's Inc.  etc. etc.  In some cases the influence may be allowing a movie to be made, rather than explicitly writing it.

Maybe.  Maybe not.  I guess it depends how one defines "The Wave".  I think that it is very possible that we have lived through several (or many) significant timeline changes.

Again, depends on how "The Wave" is defined.  I have seen it described as a shift to a higher vibrational level.  Such a shift may be underway, but not yet complete.

A subjective phenonmenon (at least at this point).  I think that the widest base of experience across people  that points toward such a possibility is the feeling that "time is speeding up".

One possibility: sounds to me like you have sufficiently integrated with your Source / Higher Self / subconscious to no longer need these. Synchronicities and number sightings, at least, are just waking dream symbols used by the higher part of you to smuggle a message across the conscious/subconscious barrier via reality itself. If a more active communication line is established, the indirect symbolic/phenomenal method is no longer necessary. Unlike me, you know when you switch timelines without having to have a deja vu or synchronicity.

Makes sense only if they are intending to live openly on the surface as fully physical beings. I would think that solar and cometary dangers make the surface an unfriendly place for any intelligent being to live. They could just stay in underground climate-controlled 4D base networks as always. I'm more inclined to believe in a 4D analog to terraforming - making the earth increasingly more like their own negative 4D realm in terms of frequency. I believe HAARP and chemtrails work together for this purpose as well, to control and condition the dimensional "climate" of our reality. Like what you said, "Part of the black ops agenda is the covert psionic ELF entrainment via a grid of low vibration waves over the planet."

Yup, mothman was a good example of something happening on a large scale that happens all the time on an individual scale. One thing I have observed and personally experienced is that people who are easily obsessed and paranoid tend to get the royal treatment in terms of being stalked, watched, abducted, harassed, etc... by an assortment of scary characters. Why? Because they are game. It's an FRV (soul vibe) thing... have a low FRV, attract low FRV. Stop reacting, and they stop provoking. There's a danger in reveling or obsessing over something that offers you no additional knowledge with further energy expended. On a large scale, this manifests as the entertaining class of Fortean phenomena, things that always make you go "oo-hoo-hoo-hoo!" but never "aha!" Works only to make believers out of skeptics, but once you believe, do you move on or get stuck seeking the same old thrill again and again?

Funny enough, there are 5th column elements of either side that are largely unaware of their status as such until they one day awaken or are triggered. Like people who incarnate with an inner cache of knowledge, skills, mission ideals that remains mostly hidden until the proper time... Or people who are abducted and mind programmed during their lives with a compartmentalized cache of instructions, training, skills, etc... that are triggered at the proper time. One could even be both, a double agent. The population could be saturated with sleeping armies of different orientations awaiting their wake up call.

I think our situation is like the movie Jacob's Ladder. The Ra Material claims that we are already in 4D but that the inertia of mass consciousness is perpetuating the remnants of 3D. Makes sense to me. The cohesiveness of 3D illusion is already becoming periodically and locally unstable, and shall continue to decrease at an accelerating pace - at least for sub-populations that resonate beyond the primary 3D frequency. For a while I've had a hunch that technology is being used to artificially keep things more stable than they would be otherwise (covert scalar effects of wireless networks and HAARP).

4D has always existed, the assembly of 4D earth behind the stage curtain has occurred, but the full lifting of the curtain has yet to happen otherwise I would not be in my current form or environment. From what I understand, the C's concept of the Wave relates more to the lifting of the curtain.

[or an alternate view: the 4D shift has fully happened, but part of our activities there required inserting part of ourselves back into the 3D past to continue those activities "on the ground" while the higher part guides us "from the air"...things in 3D are moving forward towards a repeat of the shift, except along a different and more successful timeline route than the original. Current reality is entirely the product of a future timewar that shifts according to its developments and vice versa]

What I expect is not the arrival of 4D, but the breaking apart of the 3D simulacrum - our current reality - that exists as an artificially stabilized bubble within an existing 4D atmosphere. I agree with you that the key to doing this is getting awareness and FRV to rise beyond critical mass. It's like we have come out of the abyss and are on the surface now in a decompression chamber, yet the hatch won't open until we have adjusted ourselves to surface atmospheric pressure.

Whatever the case, it just means that our personal reality is becoming increasingly manipulable and the shuffling of timelines increasingly dynamic. This has advantages for both sides. It's just an upping of the ante.

Regarding timeline shifts...  I have no doubt that we are hopping timelines like cars changing lanes upon approaching diverging exits. But changing lanes, while necessary to get to the exit, is not identical with making an exit. You are exiting the former lane, but not exiting the interstate entirely.  Likewise, the process of moving in awareness and environment from 3D to 4D is incremental and would happen naturally via a progressive switching of lanes. There are timelines whose inhabitants are firmly 3D in nature, like drivers seeing only ahead and behind them oblivious to all other lanes. Then there are timelines that are more quasi-4D, like the exit lane that already has a different speed zone than the others. 

My interpretation of your experiences, Zarg, is that you are indeed hopping between timelines, that many of the characters around you who could not be phased out of your personal life "plot" remain as holographic placeholders, physical projections of their former selves whose conscious focal points are currently invested in other timelines more appropriate to their growth. You could say that your personal timeline contains "instances" of the same individuals you would see in other timelines, and vice versa, except the consciousness of each individual is not distributed equally across all their instances projected into the realities of others. In fact, it may be possible that those in your reality who are "vacant" are "up for grabs" - ready to be animated by your own energy projection, or by hyperdimensional beings who see all this from "above" and can stick their fingers into the aquarium to swish things around at leisure.

But to cut this short, all I'm saying is that you may be hopping timelines towards ones that are increasingly quasi-4D in nature, and therefore increasingly bizarre. Think about it... lets say your reality consists of 100 characters... if you shared their frequency, you would be interacting with holographic instances that are fully and mutually occupied by conscious energy. It would all be very real and consistent.  Now let's say your frequency shifts to something very different... then maybe 90 of those are now emptier, more responsive to your own thoughts and energies because nothing much is there independently animating them. They would not be as real, not as consistent, not as independent. You would only be left interacting with 10 "real" people, and a couple holographic shells temporarily inhabited by hyperdimensional consciousness, who then function as probes.

Remember what don Juan told Castaneda about differentiating between real objects and dream objects?  Dream objects and characters contain no energy. Something to think about.

This is one of the best threads I've seen here at NR. There have been many, but this one voices so many of the things that have occured to me for a number of years, but had a seeming inability to voice. Thank you Zarg, Lyra, and Montalk.
One reason I know I have failed to voice any of it because it truly has freaked my sh@#t when it would occur to me that all this is happening. Probably because I feel I have been a rather tardy student. However, the information you all have provided adds more to the picture that had formed for me by leaps and bounds. Okay, so now I feel a bit squirmish under the skin. Better drink some tea and say a few prayers.
Discpline has been a major issue coming up with me lately. Not to mention more honesty. Also, I wrote Lyra about this, but I've had alot of ear ringings lately as well as countless number sightings, deja vu's, and synchronicities. While some have been positive in nature many haven't. Better drink some more tea.
I do have some thoughts to add, although I am not nearly as well read as you all seem to be. My notes will be merely from obvservations I've made and pieces that have come together in my own mind. Later, though. I have a date to watch a movie with someone special. Don't laugh, it's William H. Macy.
Thanks again for bringing this all up.

I'm  still trying to come up with some words for a reply.  But yes, I just wanted to jump in and say

"WOOHOO! You rock"

Great thread i have just got to pick my brain up off the floor I dont know much about the math of time and space but have a few thoughts.
The matrix runs on both individual awareness of living in it and trillions of cross references to allow scenes to be played out and for interaction with others so it appears to a be continious smooth world out there that seems to exist when you are not looking and appaers to have a life of its own, while it could well be that reality is created second by second by yourself only as is every body elses and the cross referencing between all these individual realities is the force that both traps us in the cross referencing super matrix or hologram and also may the be the key to a release.
If we accept the above then  time line slips/alternative time lines  could just be when a mind no longer performs to the rules of the cross referencing super hologram that pulls everones individual matrix into a larger one thus allowing all kinds of weirdness and gives the appearence of shifting time lines as other seem to have changed, while in fact it may be you are the one who has changed by having to a certain degree escaped the CR of the super hologram in order to make your individual matrix fit into the super matrix or hologram.

Super thread and comments, everyone!

Zarg, I loved what you wrote about healing yourself in the past.

One of the things I learned some years ago was that whenever I want to heal something or make an adjustment in my energy, I set the clear intention that I am healing the condition throughout time and probability.

This has created some amazing things that only you folks would believe....along the lines of what Zarg talks about with people disappearing from my life all of a sudden... or drastically changing their natures overnight, with everybody around me behaving as if these newly acquired qualities were ones that were active all along....when they most certainly were not! Clear signs that something had shifted. Also situations where I knew somebody who had had a lifelong chronic illness, and after this shifting process, they suddenly didn't have that condition and denied ever having been treated for it. Like I was making the whole thing up! Weird.

I like the probability/time line shift stuff.  Why not heal other aspects of ourselves along with this one? It gets the job done faster so we can start experiencing our happiest, lightest and most bouncy self on all levels. I personally feel that there are so many creative and joy-filled experiences we can all be plugged into, and it's good to plug into that stuff and unplug from trauma-based learning.  How about joy-based learning? That's how the angels do things.

Some shamanic healers are working with healing past life trauma as it has affected the current one, and in the process many are healing the other selves within the healing session, too. I've been working this way for a while and I encourage all healers here on the forum to give it a try.  It seems to work like instant therapy...the whole energy charge of that trauma or phobia goes away, as does its origin or root experience in another timeline.

And then all the stuff you'd been experiencing in THIS life because of that old stuff just ....goes away. Like it never happened and was never real. Wild. It totally loses its emotional charge.

Some years ago a literary agent was going to represent my work-in-progress metaphysical memoir, and some big publishers were interested, and there was a point where my higher guidance kicked in and said, "You are not your past. Do you want to create something that is going to cause thousands of people to add energy to the belief that you are as you were in the past?"  And I received the insight that in binding myself to the past emotional attachments, relationships, and points of view that I was describing in the memoir was actually kind of dangerous...it could suspend me in those old energies and hold me back on my current journey. So I withdrew the submission. 

We're not our past....we are multiple selves experimenting with multiple vibrations. Let's all keep moving!

LipstickMystic aka Jennifer

Great stuff! Barefoot Doc, I liked your description. It's like some massive online multiplayer game with game instances running individually on each computer but all being coordinated by a central server into a consistent virtual world.

Tonight I re-read a paper by Daniel Greenberger that ties in completely with our discussion. This was in the news last year, a paper titled Quantum Theory Looks at Time Travel. It was mentioned on NR before. Or was it? haha.

From the news article:

What the paper says is that you can only causally interact with past timelines that are consistent with your current timeline. "Causally" means tangibly, physically, forcefully - in other words, in a manner that lets you violate freewill of those you interact with. So if you want to go back and shoot your grandpa before he meets your grandma, you'll end up doing only what happened anyway.

The paper says, however, that you can interact with other pasts that are not as consistent with your present, but doing so decreases the causal nature of your interaction. What this means is that the less likely a given past evolves into your present reality, the more indirectly and ambiguously you must interact with the people there. If you are merely looking with zero interference, you can then visit any probable past. But the more you try to interfere, the more restricted the range of pasts you can access.  That much is implied by quantum mechanics.

Putting this to practical use, the more tangibly you want to interact with beings from some probable future, the more you must vector your current timeline towards becoming that probable future. If you want to hear your Higher Self more objectively, perhaps as an actual voice in your head, you must orient your personal progress towards a positive spiritual direction of evolution that aims directly towards that future where you have become your Higher Self. If you want to meet a real Nordic tangibly and not just in dream states or via intuitive nudges, you must live in a manner that reinforces their reality, i.e. by becoming like them yourself in heart and mind.

The same goes for Grays and Reptilians - the more fearful, paranoid, negative, fickle, ignorant, or obsessive you are, the more you support that probable future and the more tangible and physical they become to you. It's a feedback loop between the present and the future, a feedback loop that can be initiated, ended, or switched through freewill.

Example: let's say you are trying to target someone in the past, but that past is not entirely consistent with your present. Like let's say you are a strongly STS lizzie and want to target a relatively positive person in third density. Due to quantum mechanical laws of reality, you can then only interact with them indirectly in ways that preserve freewill. You could telepathically influence them, depress their emotions, send matrix agents their way to drain, intimidate, deceive, etc... everything but outright violate their freewill by, say, killing them. You can even abduct and program them as long as they don't remember, since what isn't remembered might as well never happened and thus doesn't infringe upon freewill that much.  Whatever the case, given your limited range of interaction, you can still stalk and entrain them into willingly switching to timelines that are increasingly consistent with your own. The more they do so, the more objective you can appear to them, the more easily you can control them against their wishes. This is why making pacts with demonic powers, signing away rights via military or government services, inviting aliens into your life, etc... is risky.

Alright, so with all this stuff about preserving freewill, what about times when you wanted to do something but were "blocked" from doing it by some invisible power that put more obstacles in your way than you could surmount? Well, if you don't choose otherwise, or if your choice was made with too weak of intent, then your immediate future is up for grabs by something more powerful. This could be some choice you made at a higher level... it could be negs jumping at an opportunity to change your future. Whatever the case, your intent behind initiating a certain future was not strong enough to resist the progression of events being bent onto some other unexpected future.

That ties into the discussion on healing your past. It seems reasonable to me that if your present self sends energy back in time, if that freewill-energy to change the past exceeds the combined sum of freewill energy holding the past in place, then you change the timeline. The negs don't have that much energy, and they are at an ineffective frequency range, so they tend to target those pivotal  points on the timeline where you are acting most reactively and mindlessly. Just this past week I got indicators of another neg attempt coming up this past weekend, but days in advance I sent positive energy forward into the future. When the weekend came, things teetered near the edge but an unknown boost of positivity (forgot I did that days before) kept things on track, and thus all went well.

But anyway, the point of this post is to show that our experiences regarding timelines, weird characters, synchronicities, negative entities, intuition, changing the past, etc... are consistent with the implications of quantum mechanics, that above is a paper that shows how. Not that we need to be convinced by science, but it's cool when things match up.

I also wanted to repeat the importance of choosing your present-future feedback loop by choosing how you think, feel, and act in the present. By increasing your self-awareness, discernment, knowledge, and positivity, you are more objectively connecting with the most successful probable future and all who exist within it, while decreasing the objective interactions with negative entities.