Ending Contracts (Page 1 of 2)

How come the idea of "contracts" doesn't feel right to me?  Somebody once emailed me, asking my opinion on contracts and what I knew about them, and to be honest, I know nada!  I never thought about it, nor looked into the topic because it doesn't interest me or resonate with me.   Maybe I'm mistaken, but how can there be "contracts" in the spiritual state??   Plans maybe, a loose idea of accomplishing something, a general outline...but certainly not "contracts."  Nothing that's set in stone!

I was lying around once back in 2003, asking my higher self "WHY AM I HERE???"  wondering, What exactly am I supposed to be doing here, anyway???   !!!!   !!!!!   

The answer that came back?  An exact quote, btw:

"Different timelimes accomplish different things."

Well...that threw me for a loop!  Higher Selves are funny, because their answers are short and to the point, emotionally neutral...and not necessarily what you were expecting to hear!    I believe in multiple timelines, totally, and have my own personal proof for this, but it hadn't crossed my mind that this would also mean that there isn't necessarily a "have to!" plan set in stone.  !    I hadn't integrated that knowledge into "The Bigger Picture."  Depending on the different timelines you establish for yourself, which spring up from the various choices we make in life, there could therefore be multiple "reasons why we're here" and multiple "destinies" that can play themselves out.....and none of them are set in stone.  So, our "reason for being here" changes based on the choices we make in life and the timelines we find ourselves on as a result!

Wow!

Pretty cool, if I do say so myself.   

But tying back into the concept of "contracts", again, it doesn't seem right to me.  It seems like a ploy to trap people into feeling like they're obligated to live out stuff that would be detrimental to them.  The way some abductees claim that the "Grays" are trying to convince people they have a contract to be abducted.   Contracts implies that things are set in stone................when they clearly are not. 

Maybe pre-birth "contracts" are a real thing, I don't know, but it still sounds to me like a disinformation control ploy.

To me the idea of "contracts" is a human idea.  I mentioned this in another thread - how basically people always want to "humanise" everything.  Humans have certain concepts - and live under certain systems and such.  But why would those same systems apply to the Universe and the rest of Reality?

I see the concept of a contract as an Egoic system.  Spiritual teachers always tell us that the Ego is not the true basis of reality.  So why would that reality issue us a Contract?

I do feel that some people have a "purpose" they are here to achieve.  But the term "contract" and "purpose" are not at all interchangable in my view.

However if those that talk of "Contracts" in this manner do so metaphorically, then I guess that is a different story...

I can't be the only person reading that going "huh?" and scratching my head.     First off, this isn't a contract.  You can move to other parts of the world where it's perfectly acceptable to be naked outside your home and nobody would care or bat an eye.  So no, this is not a true contract that you were born into.  It's the local law....not a pre-birth contract.  Big difference!

Now this is more accurate.   It's along the lines of what I think when I read or hear people complaining about how "they want off this ride!", lamenting everything that's wrong about their lives, how they're tired of being here, waaa waaaa waaaaa, and so on.   I always think, Hey, you CHOSE to be here.  There are no victims. 

And choosing to be here, is of course, agreeing to the terms of 3rd density!    It's choosing to be physical, in this world, during these times. 

Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuut....is it still not a contract?  I don't know.   A contract implies that you agreed to do something......or else face punishment and consequences for renegging.  You know, like breaking the lease on your apartment.     Or defaulting on your car payments.

What would the consequences be of renegging on being alive?  Who exactly are we answering to should we change our minds and back out?

It's so subjective, because now we're entering into the realm of religious / spiritual beliefs, and as we know, everybody believes different things.

Or is the idea of "contracts" then like what Marcus described?  Trying to attribute human characteristics to very non-human concepts........?

I have pondered on this one considerably, and this is what I have come up with:

Contracts are restrictions or limitations that are imposed upon our experience as we incarnate.  They appear to be between our self and another entity, but this is part of the illusion of separation that occurs during the process of incarnation.  At the level they are created, they are simply an agreement that we made to our self.

Contracts exist in order to offset karmic obligations, or imbalances in our experience.  They ensure that we will attract experiences and growth opportunities that we may not otherwise choose for ourselves while existing in a limited 3D world.

Contracts may be renegotiated.  This can occur once the contract has been engaged by all parties, whether or not each party is consciously aware of it.  As long as all parties are, at some level, in agreement about the new terms of the contract, changes can be made, which will result in a new timeline being created.

Contracts may also be canceled.  But they can only be canceled at the same or greater level of awareness that they were created.  Achieving the level of awareness where the contract was created is equivalent to unifying the two aspects that were defined as "self" and "other" under the contract.  Thus there is no longer any basis for the contract, and it is simply dissolved.

There are basically four possible outcomes for a contract.

ACCEPTANCE:  All parties agree to the terms and conditions, and perform the contract.  The "original" timeline.

REDEMPTION:  One or more parties defaults on the contract, and special allowances are made by the "damaged" party(-ies) to the defaulting part(ies) to make reparations. The "negative" alternate timelines.

FORGIVENESS:  One or more parties to the contract releases the others from obligations under the contract.  The "positive" alternate timelines.

PARDON:  One party to the contract dissolves the contract as an act of self-will, and life proceeds as if the contract never existed.  Collapse of multiple timelines and a return to the "original" timeline.

OK gotta run, more later if anybody finds this helpful!

I am not sure I express myself that well when I talk about this sort of thing.  I see "contracts" as a bureaucratic measure between two individuals to create a legal (as in human law) bond.

To me - all that falls under a humanistic view of the world i.e. Anthropomorphism

Is this the manner in which people are using the world "Contracts" under these spiritual philosophies?  Or am I missing something?  I understand what Lyra is saying in regards to something less formal (and personally tend to incline toward that view as well)...and hence wouldn't use the word "contract"...

Anyone?

So what did you want to talk about then?

No offense, but honestly, many of your threads are confusing because they wander about, without a direction.  It's hard to tell most of the time what you seek with your threads, where you're going with things, what the bigger point is.   You expressed surprise that people were posting to this thread, indicating that your other threads don't get much of a response.   This could possibly be why....?  I don't know.   I mean, the thread is called Ending Contracts, but now you say that contracts is not the concept you wanted to talk about.  And you've referenced several examples of types of contracts that could be broken, but I don't get what the Bigger Picture point is, or where you're going with it all.   So I think it's safe to say....I'm really confused now....

Okay, just for the sake of discussion here is the dictionary definition of contract:

On this thread I think we are talking about non-government laws, like social customs, physical and metaphysical laws, matrix rules, and so on. Whatever the case, it seems that a contract is an agreement to limit one's own freewill in order to participate in some consensual venture.

If violating a contract brings upon one painful consequences, that is a restriction upon the freedom to do as one pleases without consequence. If it is impossible to violate a contract while still benefitting from it, then that is a restriction upon the freedom to have your cake and eat it too. If agreeing to a contract means agreeing to the possible risks of doing so, then that is a restriction upon the freedom to enter something without ever having to face that risk.

So, willingly binding one's own freewill may be the common factor here. How is that possible? I can think of a couple ways.

First by agreeing to put yourself under the authority of something more powerful than you. It could be the legal system, physical reality and its laws, some metaphysical law of balance or freewill you cannot ignore, some group you agreed to join or derive services from which can make you suffer if you fail to pay up.

Second, by making a choice at a higher level and then having the force of that choice bind you upon incarnation at a lower level.

This means that the only way to void a contract without consequence is to do so at the same or higher level it was made. Voiding a legal contract must be done at the legal level, a level which is not high enough to void a "contract with physicality" which was made at the soul level upon incarnating.

Or another example: a particular manifestation of karmic law, like a repeating painful experience meant to expunge guilt or teach oneself a failed lesson, becomes null and void the moment you rise in awareness beyond the level at which some regretful action was made, basically by understanding and forgiving. 

So I would agree with LipstickMystic (dreamosis paraphrasing) that "pre-life contracts we may have made were probably made in a less enlightened mindspace than we're in now." It's not that a contract necessarily cannot be changed or reneged, but that it must be done at the proper level in order to avoid inevitable or enforced consequences.

Like let's say before incarnating, two souls make an agreement to meet and help each other out in life at a certain point in the experiential sequence. This is not just a casual agreement, since if one resists then the other would suffer setbacks, which is a consequence and thus the agreement is actually a contract. But during life, it may be possible for both souls to agree to change plans at a higher level, and thus the contract is voided without consequence because it was  done mutually. It was made on the soul level between two entities, and it can be dissolved on the soul level between two entities. Contracts can change and be voided, but not just willy nilly. I think the same might go for births, abortions, miscarriages, and so on.

I think there is a subtle difference between a simple "agreement" (which any party can abandon without consequence) and a "contract" that is properly changed or dissolved. Neither then carry consequence, but the contract is a bit more weightily entered and weightily dissolved.