16 (edited by montalk 2006-03-03 15:03:56)

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A couple nights ago Lyra and I had a discussion about why many females lose all sense of self-respect the moment a guy gives them any attention. And here I mean girls who have sex with dirty greasy strangers who proposition them, or normal girls who impulsively agree to be part of a porn movie with little persuasion other than cash and attention.

At first it seemed that lack of self-esteem was the base factor, but after digging deeper it became clear that what is really lacking is a sense of self. Adolescents, due to hormonal and social pressures, are more likely to have their sense of self overridden. Or consider how in dreams you lose your sense of "self" and therefore find yourself engaging the stupidest stuff imaginable. The stronger your self-awareness, the more capable you would be of maintaining your self-respect.

An OP lacking a solid core of "self" would be most easily won over by irrational impulses and social pressure because there is nothing within to resist except potentially further programming.  And since their motivations are absolutely limited to being expressed through the lower chakras, it seems plausible that the porn industry involves a relatively high percentage of OPs. How can you have self-respect, self-esteem, self-awareness if you have no "self"?

By "self" I mean a subconscious self-awareness of one's intrinsic worth as a spiritual being. This is in contrast to the "virtual self" sometimes called the ego which is an internal AI program created through social programming, responsible for selfishness, narcissism, programmed insecurity. OPs have ego, but they don't have "self." You can see it in their eyes. I think that explains a lot about our society.

Zarg, by "grab your auric profile" I meant that through physical proximity and interaction, humanoid probes would be more successful in being used to read your auric vibrational spectrum. This has applications in plotting your emotional, psychological, etheric weaknesses, biases, tendencies, etc... for later exploitation. Our auras diminish with distance, and although you can still read someone's vibes far away by merely focusing on them, there is something more "tangible" and informative about their proximity field. For instance, communicating with a negative person on the net can affect you somewhat, but being around them physically would even more so through sheer bleeding of their realm/aura into yours.

I think black helicopters can do something similar by getting close enough and loud enough to stimulate a fear response in their targets and read the emitted energy spectrum. Back in Florida, Lyra chased one off merely by treating the black helicopter as she would a negative astral entity - by shifting her emotional frequency to something positive and intending that it leave. On the one hand, mere intent can drive something back especially if it is partly fourth density, but on the other hand if they were scanning her fear frequency emissions then shifting that to something positive would interrupt the scan.

There is only one other place that I have read anything close to the idea of strange humanoids reading one's energies, and it's in the Cassiopaean stuff. Excerpt follows:

A: Suggest more questions about the goings on at underground
facilities. JR and TR were visitors involuntary when went to
Albuquerque and Las Vegas!
Q: (J) Oh, really! (T) Read it back, I lost it after visitors. (L) You were
in an underground base? (T) We were in a front door of an
underground base. We were in Carlsbad Caverns, and I know
that there's a government facility at the other end of it,
and they won't talk about it. (J) Is that what they
mean? (T) You're talking about Carlsbad?
A: Abducted.
Q: (T): When we were in Albuquerque?
A: Yes.
Q: (J) And Las Vegas? (T) When we were in Las Vegas, also?
A: Met alien there.
Q: (L) Oh, you met an alien when you were in Las Vegas! (J) Does
that have anything to do with the fact that the pictures didn't come
out from our wedding?
A: Barfly.
Q: (T): Ohhhhh... (J) I know exactly what you are talking about.
A: Disguised humanoid gray species four. Rigelian. Orion union
STS.
Q: (T) Why did he talk to us? Why did he approach us? I know
exactly...
A: Spying on you and aural frequency reading, had you not been as
strong, would have suffered permanent abduction because of your
studies
Q: (L) Now, right there is a point. Everybody take note of this. What
is there about strength that makes one inaccessible to permanent
abduction?
A: Strength is of character, i.e. if STO candidate, not likely to be
victim.
Q: (L) Not likely to be victim... OK, but what.. (T) STO candidate...
(L) I know, but that's... it says when... well, what is it that makes a
person... We know that it means being an STO candidate, but what is
the thing inside one that  stops them... I mean, is this something
that is a core ingredient of certain human beings? Is this
like something inside them that blocks this manipulation and
victimization?
A: Soul pattern.
Q: (L) So in other words, there is something about us, or within us,
that literally they cannot touch or harm, is that correct?
A: Basically, but difficult to facilitate.
Q: (L) OK, in other words, this is something that is in us, that creates
an inherent barrier, but not necessarily something that we can, at
this level of density, reach in, grab out as a weapon, and
wave around, as in facilitate?
A: Can, but intricate to do consciously. A: Network western
experiences for learning purposes please. Knowledge is protection.

[Briefly, TR related the story where he and JR met the barfly at Vegas
World, after having gone downtown to get their marriage license.
They had taken a taxi to City Hall, and foolishly decided to walk back
to the Strip, in 116 degree weather. They made it as far south as
Vegas World, and stopped at the bar inside to cool off. JR was close
to heat prostration, and the barmaid gave her glasses of iced water
and an iced towel to put on her neck. They were getting ready to go
back out and hail a cab back to Bally's, when they were approached
by the "Barfly," who started asking all sorts of personal questions, and
seemed to be acting drunk when he wasn't really intoxicated. He
became belligerent when TR) refused to show him his Florida
drivers license, but switched to disorientation when TR made the
statement "We don't have a problem here, do we?!" While staring
the guy down and putting the force of his personality behind the
question/statement.]

Q: (T) Before we get too far into this, I want to ask them where we
were taken. Because after that, as far as I know, nothing else
happened. We just went on about our business, and we didn't see him
again... (L) In this story that (T) has just recounted, what
instant represents the turning point of resistance?
A: The statement.
Q: (L) What statement? (T) "We don't have a problem, here, do we?!
Everything's cool, everything's OK! I'll buy you a beer?"
A: Yes.
Q: (T): Because that's when he got confused... (J) You totally
nullified the... (SV) Yeah, from the glaring and staring at each
other... (T) He was escalating this to a point, and I don't know,
it just came to me that the best way to do this was to just stop
it right there...
A: Grays and their associates are thrown off by energy flow
diversions or thought pattern interruptions.
Q: (SV) That's exactly what they said in Matrix I! (T) Another thing
that comes to mind while I'm thinking about it, before it turned ugly,
he was leading up to going someplace. (J) Very vaguely, but yes.
(T) He was leading up toward, "We ought to get together and go
someplace." I think that's when I really shut the whole
thing off. (L) OK, now, in this episode where TR and JR were taken
to an underground base, can you identify the location of the
underground facility?
A: Socorro, NM
Q: (J) We were in Socorro, weren't we? (T) We went through
Socorro... We stopped at the geological school. (L) OK, what was
done to them when they were in this underground facility?
A: Quick exam.
Q: (T) Did we pass? I'm not good on quick exams! Which of the
nights in Albuquerque was it we were taken?
A: Second.
Q: (T) We got there Friday afternoon, that would have been
Saturday... (L) Who was in charge of this base, this facility? What
group?
A: Orion union STS.
Q: (T) Why did they take us? I know, a quick exam, but why?
Because we happened to be there, and we were close by? (L) They
said a minute ago because of
your studies. (T) Well, they could have taken us in Florida.
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Because of your studies. Well, you happened to be near a
base, I guess. Not everybody goes to these bases, you know, these
underground facilities. They get taken to ships.... (T) Did we get taken
to the base because we happened to be close by at the time when they
grabbed us? Was it an opportunity for them?
A: Close.
Q: (T) Did they know we were coming out there?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) Why did they follow up with a spy afterwards?
A: Test.
Q: (T) What kind of test? (J) I think we passed... (L) I think that if
you'd failed, they said a minute ago, you'd have been permanently
abducted.
A: Already answered.
Q: (L) It's an aural reading... read the section back about aural
reading... (T) You mean that what they were looking at was to see
whether we were STS or STO?
A: Partly.
Q: (L) And if they had been permanently abducted at that point in
time, what would have happened to them?
A: Body part utilization.

Related to Las Vegas and Synthetics is this from the Cosmic Awareness material:

This Awareness wishes entities to consider that there have been several unusual
movie plots during the past few years, which are not purely science fiction. This
Awareness indicates that the movie Future World, wherein  celebrities were taken
into a new type of amusement park, and their doubles emerged, this being in the
state of Nevada. This Awareness indicates this movie was, in actuality, based on the
alien base which was in existence in the mountains above Las Vegas, wherein these
synthetics were being created, and released into society after receiving proper
training and programming and the necessary money for carrying out their
assignments. 
     This Awareness indicates this movie as having had a substance based on reality.
This Awareness indicates also that the movie Invasion of the Body Snatchers,
wherein entities were being created who became doubles for humans and took their
place. This Awareness suggests you consider this movie in light of the information
which Dr. Beter has given on the robotoids.

More on synthetics / robotoids / reanimated people here:

http://montalk.net/matrix/98/human-simulacra

(this is my collection of excerpts by different sources on the subject)

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

17 (edited by Hkelukka 2006-03-03 15:21:33)

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I posted a similar experience a while back. When i was in a bar and some drunkard started talking with me and then suddenly appeared to have drank nothing at all (very sober and coherant) and talked about aliens, ufos, intelligence agencies and such. And made alot of semi-threats about how "you would be the first to go/die" and how "you have no idea what your up against" smile and such friendly comments. To which i proceeded to note that we all die sooner or later, if they intend to kill me they would have done so already. And at the least i'll die knowing that i threw a wrench in their schemes and they had to kill me=). At one point he tried to touch my hand but i pulled away and stood up and said i'm leaving now, bye. smile It seems these kind of encounters are fairly common in spiritual circles.

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Awesome. Thanks Lipstick and Montalk. 

Reading Lipstick’s account of how the guy spoke reminded me that my roommate usually speaks that way on the phone – only on the phone. In normal conversation between us in the room, he speaks normally. When on the phone, he has a breathy, halting way of speaking that I can’t even begin to imitate. It sounds mechanical….
he’s the OP from Belgium (a foreign student), but has almost no accent.  Strange.

And I appreciate the info given in the C’s text and your ‘grabbing the aura’ explanation. Thanks. I'll print that off.

Lipstick also made me remember an experience I had in Sedona (AZ) in July 1998, of relevant interest here. I was in Boynton Cyn, at the end, up on the ledge, meditating in the vortex. I was sitting under this huge bush that had plenty of space below it, and it kind of reached out and up and over to cover the top end of the ledge (anybody been there?).

As I was meditating, I heard footsteps coming thru the brush and fallen leaves behind me – I wondered what some clown was doing there since there were a lot of rocks and bushes – how could s/he be making such regular footfalls…? (There were people all over that part of the canyon that day, but I was alone.) Then I heard no more, opened my eyes, and saw a big lizard on all fours about 4’ from me, just sitting there on my right -- looking at me. He was about a foot to a foot and a half long, and my first thought was ‘kinda big, aren’t you?’…. and tame. Then he crossed in front of me, looking at me all the way, and then circled me and came to rest in front of me. He was greenish-black and normal looking, but bigger than any of the 4-6 inchers I had seen during my hikes in the area.

Then, he slowly ambles off to my left toward a big boulder sitting at the foot of a small slope, and goes behind the boulder… I waited and waited… he had to emerge on the other side of the boulder as all there was was the boulder and the slope behind it. No lizard. So out of curiosity, I got up, never taking my eyes off the boulder, and went over the 10 feet and looked behind the boulder. No lizard. No hole to hide in. Nothing. Dang.

What I haven’t old you yet is that that day I was sitting there meditating, I was wearing a brand new green T-shirt I had bought in Tucson (I also learned to spell the city while I was there). On the back was a big gold Gekko lizard wearing sunglasses, and a smaller version on the front with the ‘Tucson’ logo. I wonder to this day (and I still have the shirt) – did that attract it, did it know what was on my shirt…. What the hell was that and where did it go? What did it want?

I shared the story back in town at a metaphysical bookstore (near 3 corners) and all the guy said was ‘You were visited. Most folk see little Greys back in there. You don’t want to be back in the box canyon after the Sun goes down.’  I didn’t go back in there till August -- and with friends. Any ideas?

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I had an interesting experience in the burbs with "something". I was walking my dog in a neighborhood, and Im sure Montalk would know if I said Angus Rd. area, and this is a place I walked every day for about 4 yrs, so I basically knew people who lived there. Well I was walking one morning and I see a guy up ahead approaching me, he had what looked like a newborn baby in one of those front cloth carriers. As he approached he saw the dog and immediately walked in front of me and knelt down. I didnt think it was too strange because people wanted to stop and pet me dog all the time, but I had never seen him before. What was curious was the baby. It didnt look real. It looked like a doll. I kept staring at the "baby" hanging off his chest and when he noticed he put his hand over it. He said "nice dog", and when he looked up at me I noticed his eyes had totally black pupils. He got up and said, " see you soon", and walked off.  The word alien popped into my head.  I couldnt get that image of the dead looking baby hanging off his chest. I asked around but noboby seemed to know who he was, never saw him again.  I also saw what I thing was a "time traveler" in the New Age section of our Barnes and Noble bookstore.  I was walking back to the new age section to put back a book I took off the shelf to read while me daughter looked in the kids section. As I was walking back, it became totally silent, I mean not a sound, I felt like I was walking in slow motion, the woman standing at the shelf turned to look at me, and the hairs on the back of my neck stood up, she smiled, and I looked down, when I looked up she was gone, and boom, back to noisy store. I dragged my daughter around looking for that woman, never found her. I asked my daughter if she notice what Idid, but at 5 yrs old, she really wasnt able to articulate it. Upstate NY has a lot of underground bases, lots of ufo activity there.

In man's analysis and understanding of himself, it is as well to know from whence he came as whither he is going.   Edgar Cayce

Beliefs are tools for social conditioning, rather than expressions of inner realization or inner truth.   unknown
Ad Verecundiam

20 (edited by Zarg 2006-03-04 16:08:19)

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It seems bookstores are a hangout for some of these 'people'...

Last June, on a Sunday about 1pm, I was in Borders, sitting in the back, not the cafe, when my cellphone rang and I learned that the 2 painters we sent out to do a renovation had just been kicked off the job by the owner. They were doing lousy work. And there was no one around me. I was in a back corner. I discussed options with the owner and then he told me that the food in the refrigerator had all spoiled because one of the 2 workers had unplugged the refrigerator Friday nite (and they weren't home all weekend). Yet I was not repeating what he said, just trying to handle his issue and be straight with him.

Out of the blue, this mid-40s woman comes over and gives me a piece of paper with detailed instructions on it for what to do in this case! I semi-noticed her, blonde in a pink top, and I assumed she worked there. I spent another minute with the owner and hung up and rushed around the store to find that woman... partly to thank her, partly to ask how she knew what was going on... You guessed it. She not only didn't work there, no one remembered seeing her, she wasn't currently in the store, but I kept the piece of paper as a 'souvenir' ... dang! -- I just happened to think, maybe  it now acts a 'homing device'.

There was so much hand-written on the piece of paper that she'd have had to start writing it when I first started talking with the owner!  And none of it was like 'Oh, I hadn't thought of doing/saying that'... it was ordinary stuff. Common sense stuff.... Jeeze... what if it IS a tracking device!? I can't get rid of that idea...

And I used to live in upstate NY (6 years) and I never once saw a UFO.
I feel cheated.

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Imhoptep, that part about Denver creeps me out.  Let me explain why.

I have a family member I have mentioned before who I am sure is some sort of non-human, like an OP.  She has no personality.  It's creepy.  What she does is latch onto a person like a leech, and replicate the person's personality.  Sometimes she attaches to another person and replicates that personality if that other one didn't work somehow.  Her personality does 180 degree shifts.  I know a lot of young people are influenced by their peers, but this is much different--it's like complete replication of another person, from favorite TV shows to favorite foods to political party affiliation--every detail.  It's creepy.

Now for the Denver part.  For a long time, she has expressed a desire to go to Denver, because "people like me" are there.  That meant nothing until you said the Denver thing. 

Her eyes are an odd shade of blue, and looking at them sends shivers down my body.  I am psychic, and I can "read" people by looking at them.  It's like there's nothing in there, and sometimes I sense an evil being there.

I found out the "others" can sometimes sense this about me, because someone told me that when I look at her, it's like I'm opening her up and reading her soul.  That would explain random strangers becoming alarmed or acting strangely when I glance at them.  I know that sounds weird, but I'm not making it up.

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I just have to post this because its driving me nuts. When i was in religion class half a week ago (its a topic that i study because it isnt about a single religion, its about religions in general and what different ones believe in). And there was this tall woman dressed in dark clothing that i dont remeber seeing outside the class or after i saw her for the first time and i dont remeber anyone leaving in the middle of the class. But it is possible.

Anyway, this dark woman was standing 3-4 meters to my left and kept looking at me very intensly and i noticed it. She might have been looking at the person who was opposite of her and i was straight in the middle of her line of sight to her. But i didnt feel that was the case. She stared at me for the whole time, then i turned to look at her and blinked cutely to let her know that yes i noticed she is staring at me. And after i turned back i dont remeber seeing her at any point. I have the same class thusday and thursday (2nd and 4th days of the week). So i will keep an eye on the situation and ask the teacher if she remebers seeing her.

23 (edited by montalk 2006-03-05 03:36:12)

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Just a quick question - those of you who can see auras, even if only shimmering or a faint white glow, does your ability to see them vary with any important factors like diet, sleep, mental state, mood, etc...? I know the technique, but was wondering if anything beyond practicing can help. Also wonder if UV blocking contact lenses interfere.

Tonight I was people-watching while out grabbing a snack and browsing the book store. Most all of the younger kids had "something" emitting from them, while the ones I couldn't get a read on were two or three guys in their forties, which I wasn't certain was just my poor auric sight or their lack of an aura. Currently, I get a more reliable read looking into someone's eyes than gazing for what is supposed to be their aura, but I'm working on improving the latter.

Any of you ponder what exactly you would do if you had the absolute ability to see who was what? Out in public I would merely look around with amusement and let people be whatever they are. But when it comes to important friends and associates, I would scan and keep my distance from those that are bad news.

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I have a fairly good aura sight, but my fear is not letting it become fully developed at the moment so i can answer some questions.

Mood effects strongly, think of it as another muscle and what effects muscle performance. Long exposure to EM field usually decreases the ability, i've heard vegeterians have a better ability, tho if this is caused by diet or if the diet and the ability are caused by a high spirituality is another matter. Aura sight is easy to develope if you just relax and let your eyes do the work.

Old people have a more faint glow as they have a fainter voice as opposed to young people. Or for example. if the young people were in the book store to pick up chicks then their physical aura would be enhanced as opposed to the old people who were seeking knowledge would ofcourse have a less prenounced physical aura.

There are atlest 7 possibly 9 and likely more levels of the aura. One closest to the skin is the physical aura and beyond that the aura levels expand and get of higher vibrations and thus harder to see. So even a person that has no visible aura to someone who sees only the first 3 levels could have a magnificent aura on the 4th and higher levels. That would still be a health problem but it is possible. I would recommend Barbara ann brennan 's book hands of light for your basic information about healings and auras. There are some things that i believe are inaccurate but it is mostly fairly accurate.

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Montalk, it seems to vary a lot depending on the degree of mental activity that is going on.  When my mind is peaceful for a prolonged period (as in days and weeks) - I begin to see shimmering emanating from people.  It is almost like the heat waves that you can see raising from a car on a hot day.  The shimmering varies from person to person, and seems to give an indication of their personality type.

However when my mind has become full of lots of junk; trivial stuff, day-to-day concerns (i.e. when I become too entrenched in the physical world) then this ability completely disappears.

I have also found that drinking lots of water - instead of sweet drinks (too much glucose) - helps a lot with keeping the mind calm.  Further, daft as it may sound, cluttered environments such as messy rooms seem to have a negative affect as well.  I suspect this has something to do with  such mess often being a result of a some form of emotion (laziness, boredom etc.) this is especially true if it is mess I have created myself.

Mostly though - as I said above - it seems to pivot on the amount of mental activity I have going on; which in turn is affected by many other things.

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Zarg, your Tuscon incident reminded me of one I had back in 1981. My husband was in the Air Force at the time, and we were stationed on Guam.  My husband was showing me around some old unused portions of the base, like the old flight lines from WW2 that were no longer in use. I noticed a huge monitor lizard, which are common there. they are about 3 to 4'. It was by an old abandoned dump, so we pulled over to watch the lizard.  A shiny black sedan pulled up over where the lizard was, across the street from us near the old dumpsite. Two pasty white men in black suits and sunglasses got out of the car, and looked at us, stood there and conversed for a few minutes and got back in the car and drove away. Back then, we didnt really think too much of it, we just thought it was kind of silly for two guys to be in suits out in the boonies where we were, also, they were so white in complexion and we were on a tropical island in the middle of the pacific.

In man's analysis and understanding of himself, it is as well to know from whence he came as whither he is going.   Edgar Cayce

Beliefs are tools for social conditioning, rather than expressions of inner realization or inner truth.   unknown
Ad Verecundiam

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Zarg, the Hudson Valley in upstate NY is known for its ufos.  The Ashokan Resevoir, is the water supply for NYC, and people see ufos out there a lot.

In man's analysis and understanding of himself, it is as well to know from whence he came as whither he is going.   Edgar Cayce

Beliefs are tools for social conditioning, rather than expressions of inner realization or inner truth.   unknown
Ad Verecundiam

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Montalk,
Interesting you should ask about what can be done to enhance your auric sight.   You reminded me of an experiment I did once, after reading the book "Change almost anything in 21 days" by Ruth Fishel.   

I had used affirmation's in the past to enhance my clairvoyance and but in this book they recommend writing down the affirmation's to better impress your subconscious mind.   So I tried it with "I am now profoundly clairvoyant".   I wrote this down at least 10 times a day for 21 days.   During this time I had some spontaneous clairvoyance flashes, even before I reached the 21 day mark, and did prove that writing it down works wonders. 

This would probably also work with seeing aura's, you could write something like "I now have the profound ability to see aura's" or "My auric sight has increased to profound level's" or some such wording.   

Being a veggetarian is also a big thing, from what I read, to develop our psychic abilities, which I'm sure you probably already know about that.   I ran into an angel book where the angels gave the author the adivice of drinking alot of pineapple juice, since this juice in particular, according to them, help's develp our inner vision.

And the last thing that would probably enhance your vision is using a beaded string of lapis beads around your neck.   I've had spontaneous telepathic occurances happen to me with a string of lapis on, I would imagine if you focus on aura's that would probably be enhanced too.


J.P.

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One technique to enhance auric perception is to take a bright orange piece of paper and cut a disc about two to three inches in diameter.  Put the disc on a wall at eye level and look at it until you see an aura around the disc.  Apparently it is a Buddhist yantra technique although I haven't come across it in books.

In order to see, you have to stop being in the middle of the picture

    -Sri Aurobindo

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check out the book 'Alien Love Bite' which there is a link to on the Montalk site.

In order to see, you have to stop being in the middle of the picture

    -Sri Aurobindo