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First of all, my website gives a rundown of all of this junk. It is the #1 source of the truth, and will give you the proper worldview. Go to www.trm.info.

Second of all, all of you guys are still in the matrix. Just face it. You care more about happiness than the truth. Always remember this: The truth is greater than anything else. It is greater than man, it is greater than happiness, etc.

As Zarg said, Noble Realms is just a social club, as is MySpace.com and the David Icke forum. You all need to grow up and accept the truth. The way you look at the ignorant common man is the same way that I look at you: Scared to accept the truth, and wanting to live in your own happy little world.

You guys equate personal intuition to personal desire. To you, what "resonates" is simply what makes you happy. What a joke!

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what in the hell r u talking about?  i just went to ur website.  i don't get it--what u just posted.  do u think we disagree with the stuff ur website?  do u think we/i disagree with ur subject matter?  do u think we don't understand or are better than?  do u think we r disagreeing with Amitakh?  do u think WE THINK we're NOT in the matrix?   WTF?  what truth r u talking about or referring to?  nobody said anything about being "happy", nor did we/i say anything like that at all, there's no personal desire thing goin on here other than to KNOW more.  is that a limiting concept?

r u kidding here? what truth r u talking about?

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"

18 (edited by lyra 2006-03-01 16:59:18)

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troydungeon wrote:

As Zarg said, Noble Realms is just a social club, as is MySpace.com and the David Icke forum.

NR is different things to different people.   It's whatever you want it to be.


troydungeon wrote:

Second of all, all of you guys are still in the matrix. Just face it.....You all need to grow up and accept the truth. The way you look at the ignorant common man is the same way that I look at you: Scared to accept the truth, and wanting to live in your own happy little world.

Those who bark the loudest about who's "right", "wrong", or "trapped in the matrix", and especially those who consider their websites to be "the #1 source of truth" are usually the people who are the most trapped with the longest to go in their journey.  But don't tell them that.   It usually takes about ten years or so of additional life experiences and growing up to realize how much they actually didn't know back then when they thought they knew it all. 

Just an observation.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Oooops. I think I want to qualify my comment about 'social club'. These forums can be a very social place to make friends (enemies), or learn/share new stuff... and I initially saw a lot more 'reviews' and 'replies' to the subjects Music, Soul Mates, Books, etc and that's OK. What I was looking for were some 'heavy hitters' who get down and into some of the more abstract/metaphysical/Quantum issues -- and since I posted that comment, I have found some heavy duty people out there, too.  This forum is not a waste of time and that is why I am here and not in some woo-woo forum.  Keep on truckin'

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lyra wrote:

Those who bark the loudest about who's "right", "wrong", or "trapped in the matrix", and especially those who consider their websites to be "the #1 source of truth" are usually the people who are the most trapped with the longest to go in their journey.

Good point, and very true! Reminds me of a quote I once came across, although I'm not sure who said it.

"Follow those who seek the truth! Flee from those who've found it!"

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Hmmm...

I wonder how she has come about her experiences.

Some of what she says I think is quite accurate. There ARE positive dimensions that are real and exist without negative energy. (please note that my use of positive/negative is just using familiar terms) Those places are mostly beyond our dimensional understanding, since our dimension is designed for growth resulting from crisis/resolution/observation principles. Such lessons learned here are generally not available there, and some principles simply must be understood and accepted before transcendence can be achieved.

There are also things she says that I think are deeply tainted by her own fears and personal biases. IMO, karma is quite natural and absolutely necessary for spiritual evolution, so a large part of me wonders why she feels the need to find a way to "beat the system." That sets off alarm bells in my mind more than anything, since such a person is most likely just a pawn of another entity that is desperate to find an escape. Why would someone view karma as a trap? The answer is simple if you consider that there are hordes of negative drains that are willing to completely corrupt your interpretations if you let them.

I can also understand where she might be coming from. I experienced a lot of anxiety after my experience, since I couldn't really understand most of it, so when I tried to interpret it, it just became more oppressive as I allowed my own biases to unconsciously enter into my interpretation. Finally I realized that I was imprinting on it before I had any time to reflect. This would explain a lot of the helplessness she projects.

22 (edited by Zarg 2006-03-03 08:37:54)

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Sorry about that, Zenden -- you had asked about RV'ing (remote viewing), and I did something like that in my teens, but shut it down when I 'barged in' on an underground base scenario that really surprised me and got to me. Nowadays, if I need info, it comes thru another avenue, no channeling, no voices, and it is best described as a kind of 'intuiting' -- it comes up from within -- as if I had always known it. And it has been very trustworthy. And then seeing auras started in the last year and has been a big help... I wouldn't know for sure that my roommate is an OP (even after Montalk's long and excelent article on Montalk.net) unless I had seen his aura flick on and off, and somethimes is just not there. The intuiting, seeing auras, and sensing energy are three things that allow me to make some of the comments I do and know that I'm shooting straight with you folks.

Il faut tout voir de la hauteur de 40,000 pieds.

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thanks zarg.  wow.  neat.  u r gifted.  i wish i lived close to u, we could really share some info.  i've been afraid to do REAL RV'ing for one reason, the very thing u said u ran into.  oh my god.  i guess one would have to be fearless or very skilled. prolly both and MORE. do u know that "Viking" RV'er guy--viking rv self defense?  anyway--thanks for ur reply.  i wish some of us lived closer so we could really interact.  i think montalk should do a conference thing.  i'd go for sure.

good possibility too,  gibbletronic, i think u could be right on that.   thanks both of u.
zenden

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"

24 (edited by Zarg 2006-03-03 17:45:13)

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I agree... and thought about a get together in a city central to most of us... idea sounds great.... when?  where?  I'm in TX.  Maybe get a guest speaker and all of us could congregate for 1-2 days.

Has this ever been tried with this group?
Maybe a city/place that would interest others -- Roswell, Taos, Carlsbad Caverns -- so they could get us all at once...? yikes

Il faut tout voir de la hauteur de 40,000 pieds.

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Zarg wrote:

Maybe get a guest speaker and all of us could congregate for 1-2 days.

Why look outside for a guest speaker when there are plenty of talented people within the group worthy of speaking?  wink   I can think of a few offhand that I'd love to hear speak!   And I think that's what would make it really neat - members who'd like to speak about something, getting up and doing just that....in an informal, relaxed way.  Nothing stuffy that would make it nerve wracking or discouraging for people.    We get to read each other's words on a screen, but imagine getting to hear them from the source itself?  Pretty cool!  We've got quite the talented group here, no doubt.  It would really be cool to have some sort of Noble Realms gathering!

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Interesting Zarg mentions remote viewing.   I've been to two different remote viewing schools in the past, I learned a few things here and there, but only reached an intermediate level.   It would be interesting to see if those on NR could come up with some other more basic way to turn-on these skills.   It's not as hard as it sounds, and it's not as scarey as most would think.   Just because someone ran into an underground base should not be the reason to back off.   Developing these skill's falls right in with "movement" of removing oneself out of our Matrix existance.

I had mentioned awakening the third-eye in another post, but would rather toss around some ideas here.   I also don't want to lead this string of post's into another area, I just wanted to toss out this idea and see where it goes.

J.P.

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Re: PleiadianHealer post...  I appreciate your observation.

(1) Running into an underground base that was populated by aliens during an RV 'exercise' was unnerving because they saw me --  they are telepathic, and I showed up on their 'radar screen', as it were. They knew I was there. I was sent some very bad energy and spent the next several months undoing what looked/felt like a nervous breakdown: my nervous system overloaded from whatever they sent me. I wasn't supposed to be there. And I was unprotected. I was only 17 and was not able to handle the 'vibes'.

(2) RV'ing in my opinion is not the way to get out of this matrix, nor will it develop skills to do so. Developing higher consciousness, greater awareness, love etc will set you resonating in greater and greater dissonance with this matrix/timeline the longer you do things that get you into higher vibrations, and thus could pop you into another timeline. I think that is what happened to me, and although I am in the same state, same city, as last Fall -- things are different. And have stayed different. Also in the last 7 years I do not get deja vu any more -- used to get it a lot. Now nothing, and in its place I know things and can do things -- BTW, it would be easy to handle RV'ing into an underground base now, but I don't choose to deliberately tangle with Lizzies!

Speaking of tangling, I got into an altercation with a person in Mt Shasta and wound up cursing her and her shop -- have only done that 2 times since 1987 and won't do it again. It worked, but I paid for it, too. But then, that wasn't the current 'me', either.

And the only thing that changed last Fall was absorbing more real knowledge -- true knowledge. I don't meditate, don't do Yoga, and I am somehow waking up. My health for the last 3 years has been excellent... that is really different for me. Recently I got that crap that was going around, and always in the past, that would lay me out... respiratory issues. Not this time, I did not take antibiotics, but healed myself with Light. 

Anyway, in last Fall, I felt myself change and then I started noticing things and people were not the same. And it has stayed that way. (I plan to say more about this in its own posting.) Would like to get more clear before sharing it...

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I would say that these writings bear the need for some careful investigation over time.
There are distortions in any information stream coming into the Earth plane because we all filter things in unique ways. The jury's still out on this one. There are seemingly some interesting points made and also some feelings of inconsistency and agenda.
What happened that Amitakh was married to Joseph Chiappalone, a seemingly cynnical MD who predicted impending apocalypse and now is married to Mr. Stanford, a lawyer??
The former spouse used to do shows on Jeff Rense called " terminal madness at the end of time."
I would say there is not future in putting thought energy into apocalyptic thoughtforms.
We can do a better job at transformation than such.

StarCat

29 (edited by Xenopope 2006-10-01 01:29:43)

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I find the site quite helpful, moreso than most any other that I have found. Amitakh is really onto something and I can say that after more than three months of thinking about and researching the new concepts I had recieved from the site (and troydungeon's posts here at NR) that I really do feel that her articles and views are spot on. But this latest article really struck me. I think what attracts me to her articles is how she can write in terms of thinking on a multiverse scale and how so many things match what I hold. Amazing and insightful article here from August 18th.

http://www.xeeatwelve.com/articles/is_b … _tool.html

I am as is Void.

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Funny, two nights ago I was thinking I would search NR to see if there had been any discussion of Amitakh Stanford, and the next day I see someone has posted and brought the topic to the top!

I was introduced to xeeatwelve.com by a link on educate-yourself.org back at the beginning of 2006. Over a period of about four months I read all the articles on her site, as well as some of the material she wrote when she was Amitakh Chiappalone. I was going through a very intense period at the time and was feeling deeply disillusioned by the failure of all of the New Age modalities of thinking I had been trying to apply to my life for the previous year and seeing lots of frustrations. I found Amitakh's writing to be, on the whole, very centering and resonating very strongly with me. But some of the material made me feel uneasy, especially the whole concept of "viability" of True Light Beings.

In July, Ken Adachi posted an article I'm Experiencing Grave Doubts Concerning  The Reliability of Amitakh Stanford at  http://educate-yourself.org/cn/conceren … ul06.shtml  , and later updated it to include some reader letters. I also sent in a letter in response to some of the things written there, but the article has not been updated since then. I am glad to see Amitakh Stanford being discussed here, as I did feel like I had a few things I wanted to share. smile

This is what I wrote in July:
"The first article we read was The Long Awaited Truth About White Buffalo Woman, which we found synchronistic to come across as we had just finished a book on Lakota mythology and had learned about the White Buffalo legend, which Amitakh debunks in her article in a way that spoke to us very strongly and resonated within us such that we felt moved to read all of her material.

Having spent several years of reading "conspiracy theory" and channeled material, Stanford's material fits with the picture of reality that has come together from the puzzle pieces of information available. She dismisses the notion that humans create their own reality with their thoughts, because our reality is in fact a virtual reality mockery of the "True Light Creation" which was the original reality that we inhabited before Darkness fractured off and formed this reality. Whereas much channeled material seems to posit that evil does not really exist, or is just an expression of light that must be healed with love, corrected, moved beyond into unity and wholeness. Amitakh states that True Light beings have been trapped in this reality and energetically exploited by Darkness, and there is no healing of the situation with love and light. This is what the "Divine Mother/Father Creator" has found to be the case, and thus the plan now is the "dismantling of the virtual reality", with the aid of the Attas, the Amoebas and others. You definitely have to read all of the material to understand all of her terms.

The problems that I see with Amitakh's material are that it feels very nihilistic. There does not seem to be much we can do other than pray and affirm that we are aligned with the True Light, refuse to "surrender" our Will to Darkness, and seek "purity" in all aspects of our lives. (See  Are Humans Merely Sophisticated Programmed Robots?) We seem to be dependent on the team of Rescuers that are facilitating the breakdown of the virtual reality, by increasing the rotation of our sun for example. It is unclear if people who read her material can assume that *they* are part of the Rescue team or if we as readers are just waiting in bondage. Solutions discussed on educate-yourself such as orgonite and energetic visualization and meditation techniques are not really addressed in her writing. I have gifted with towerbusters extensively in California as well as spots in Maryland, including an underground cave used for Masonic rituals in the 1800s in Northern California. It felt strongly to me that it was the right thing to do, and I believe in the energy behind the intent of the action of orgonite gifting. But is orgonite having an observable effect? Not for everyone I have spoken with, and to be honest its effect has been extremely subtle at best in my life. This is particularly in view of all the hardship and poverty we've experienced which only worsened after acquiring over a dozen pieces of orgonite from Georg at orgonize-africa. That does not invalidate it at all! But we learn through experience. What have we experienced?

Amitakh Stanford wrote previously under the name Amitakh Chiappalone, and was married to Joseph S. Chiappalone, and yes that is them in the photo. A while ago I searched for other material of Amitakh's on the web, and found ANNWN Publications, http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/prophecy/23/#
which released the Chiappalone's books from the mid-80s through late-90s. The website archives newsletters that were written by J.S. Chiappalone from 1997 through 1999, as well as summaries of the books they published up to that point.
http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/prop … ntents.htm

All of Amitakh's and J.S's writings are out of print and very expensive from used sellers. I recently acquired Amitakh Chiappalone's Guide To Meditation which turned out to be a 30 page booklet which I enjoyed and J.S. Chiappalone's Making Sense Of The Madness which is a thick, hot-pink tome which I am half through [never finished, put down for now, 10/06]. Chiappalone's material has all the same elements and concepts as Amitakh's, Making Sense of The Madness was first published in 1986. I find J.S's writing to be more intense and judgemental, confrontational, and definitely apocalyptic. He does raise many valid points and I do not dismiss his writing, but it is a bit intense and gloom and doom certainly. He speaks often about "spiritual poisons" and the need for purity, and lists many elements as spiritually poisonous, including breathing oxygen, smoking tobacco, drug use, alcohol, eating chocolate, all animal products (meat, fish, eggs, dairy, all), coffee and caffienated tea, and vegetables from the cabbage and cauliflower families. Also masturbation, loveless sex, taking in media. All of these poisons increase the probability of demonic possession and can lead to further entrapment of True Light beings, to the point that the entity is no longer considered "spiritually viable" and will, upon final judgement, be stripped of all memories and experiences and transmuted into pure energy and returned to the True Light. Which strikes me as harsh. It is also unclear to what degree these poisons have an effect, and basically fasting and strict discipline are advised, which I do agree with certainly but it tends to give the writing a fearful edge. Am I pure enough? Do consciousnesses that have succumbed to evil programming really deserve to be transmuted to their pure energy and have all memories taken away? J.S. Chiappalone says yes, its sad but true, period. So it is a tough conclusion. He seems to have pretty much disappeared after 1999 and I can't find any reference to him on the web after that.

Amitakh seems to have begun writing again in early 00's, under the name Stanford, with her husband Steffan Stanford, from their Alukar Heights Animal Sanctuary in Australia, which has now been relocated at least once. She has written under the name D.M. for Divine Mother, and it may be that she is the individual refered to as the current incarnation of the White Buffalo Woman, I'm not sure if she makes that entirely clear. An older version of the xeeatwelve website had an article called Tai Chi As a Spiritual Practice by I-chi, which I found inspiring but is no longer there. All other articles have remained intact to the present updates. It is interesting to note that most of the articles begin with the statement "reposted from the Nara site". I have no idea what the Nara site is and have been unable to find it through searching. Indeed there is no email address or contact info to be found in connection with Amitakh or xeeatwelve.com.

Something else interesting to note is that David Booth's book Code Red which was found to be heavily guilty of plagiarism http://www.rense.com/general51/plagiar.htm
Booth copied almost verbatim an essay by Amitakh Stanford entitled Nibiru And the Annunaki in one of his chapters. Again searching on google for Amitakh has yielded a few critical posts dismissing her material but they do not have much substance. There is little other information on her that I can find. It is interesting to see a discussion developing as previous discussion on other forums was met with dismissal of Amitakh's material for being too far out. Nothing is too far out anymore and I want to discern the truth through my own experience. I agree with Amitakh about the goal of the True Light being the Liberation of Truth. That feels right to me, and I believe that most of us qualify as Beings of the True Light and have not succumbed or given up our will to Darkness, or none of us would still be here, reading this material. I believe many people, such as Brice Taylor and the countless others, who have been victimized by trauma-based mind control have indeed had their free will taken from them. I believe that this invalidates the whole paradigm of creating ones own reality, and really exposes it as a thought pattern that tends to blame the victim for anything bad that happens to them. What thought patterns in an infant would attract (like-attracts-like paradigm) ritualistic abuse with the intent of controlling all aspects of its being? It became clear why so much channeling focused on feel good positivity and never seemed to address any of the global mind control issues I was becoming aware of from non-channeled authors such as David Icke, Ted Gunderson, Brice Taylor, and many others. I still suspend judgment, and have found validity in the Messages From Matthew, but I am definitely still confused as it does not fit with Amitakh's ultimate thesis that this is a virtual reality of Darkness that has entrapped True beings.

I have found that for me personally it is still important to do creative work every day, and actively work on detoxifying oneself and one's environment to the greatest degree possible. "

I also agree with Ken Adachi that it is somewhat confusing that Amitakh lists Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson as Attas, on the Rescue Team of the True Light. In my own research, both Franklin and Jefferson are associated with/members of many high level secret societies that imply active participation in occult ritual work, including the whole human sacrifice thing. Well, I'll go ahead and post some short excerpts from Springmeier's research on Franklin and Jefferson.

I would love to hear more discussion on this topic. smile
Tim