Topic: Think About It...

I was rereading one of Lyra's posts regarding Dolores Cannon, and thinking about how my instincts resonate with Lyra's. I mean, when a person "channels" an entity that sounds like a robot ("scanning...scanning..." Dolores even "channeled" it sounding like a robot), that sounds to me like it is a lower density being, it sounds almost two dimensional . . .

Then it hit me: These aren't "higher density" beings, they are lower! Think about how their ships move; not like something in the third dimension, but something in the second dimension, very angular, not possible three dimsensionally. When Roswell occurred (their attempt to manifest into our dimension?) the same year the transistor was "invented" at MIT (1947). Since then the "digital" age has encroached upon our society ubiquitously. Quality has been downgraded. Remember when CD's came about? Music officionados complained that there was a significant loss of quality compared to their analog LP's. Now MP3's are even lower in quality than CD's! Speaking of analog, when the tubes in amplifiers were replaced by "solid state" digital technology, people with sensitive hearing complained about the loss of quality then as well (hence the appearance of the "tubed chip" to compensate). And computers, well, we won't even go there . . . (how many PC widows and widowers are out there?)

They're not trying to "bring us up to their level", they're trying to bring us down to theirs!

Genetically we're superior. We have more bodily features, we're more complex and variable, and WE have the power to manifest things without "their help". We have music, art and so many other beautiful things which we humans comprise.  All they have is a two dimensional technology that's only a minor facet within our reality, yet we are deceived into thinking it's the cat's meow (no offense to cats).

They try to appeal to our ego, and our desire to be "differentiated" from others. They know our weaknesses, yet theirs are more profound.

Think about it . . .

Lemniscate

Magis Amica Veritas

I would rather control myself, than someone else.

en courage (heart)
in spire (spirit)
en thuse (theos)

2 (edited by LipstickMystic 2006-02-27 13:00:23)

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Lemniscate,

I think you're right on....great observations.

I have problems with Delores Cannon's material merely because she doesn't seem to have a shield up.....I wouldn't go and hypnotize people and allow just any entities to come through. I would set up a ring "pass-me-not" before we did a healing session, which is what I always did in my psychic counselling practice, and set a certain vibration in the space.  That way you'd be ensuring that only beings of a certain vibration or better are able to "give voice" in the session.

I always liked invoking the archangel Michael, who KICKS BUTT etherically when there are lower density beings trying to pollute psychic work, and Jesus, who is just such an amazing LOVE BUNNY that he raises the bar, so those "garden variety" ET's who just want to engage our egos and get us to become overly intellectual about matters of Spirit aren't even allowed in the door.

I wouldn't want to talk with a robot. What's a robot going to teach me?  They don't have souls. I'm interested in spiritual growth, not obtaining information about how to become a more mechanized, less spiritual being. So you raise excellent points....maybe they're just trying to get us to descend to their level so as to control us.

But it's hard, too, working with other people in healing sessions or hypnotic sessions, because if they have vows of allegiance and karmic contracts with low density beings, then that is what is probably going to come through in a session. Their "highest truth," the highest levels of wisdom that person's subsconscious is able to access, may not be of a particularly high vibration at all! 

And it is Delores' desire to be a "journalist" that I think gets her in trouble. She's obviously an enlightened and lovely person who sincerely desires to do good. But she's allowing just ANY OLD ENTITY to come in the door when she works with people.

So some of the information is high quality, other parts of it are really quite dangerous and deceptive.

I did a Net radio broadcast some months ago on the same network where she has her own radio broadcast. I didn't know this at the time.  I was severely psychically attacked the week before I went on the air by some of the entities she is giving "voice" to through her work.

So I wanted to throw that out there, just urging people to be extremely discerning as far as which vibrations they give "power" to, which vibrations they regard as "authority." 

Because much as I believe Cannon to be a sincere seeker and a brilliant lady, my personal energetic experience proves to me that as much as 20% of what she is bringing through is NOT SO GOOD.

Of course, others may not agree with me on this, and I respect everyone's points of view and individual experiences. It's up to each person to discern for themselves which vibrations they are comfortable with and which energies they will welcome within their sphere of influence.

Lipstick Mystic aka Jennifer

3 (edited by lyra 2006-02-27 13:12:50)

Re: Think About It...

Lemniscate wrote:

I was rereading one of Lyra's posts regarding Dolores Cannon, and thinking about how my instincts resonate with Lyra's. I mean, when a person "channels" an entity that sounds like a robot ("scanning...scanning..." Dolores even "channeled" it sounding like a robot), that sounds to me like it is a lower density being, it sounds almost two dimensional . . .

Hi Lemniscate,

I have to comment on the above excerpt only because you seemed to really misunderstand what I was saying in the Dolores Cannon thread, and have flat out gotten some things wrong and are now basing your post on this miscommunication of sorts.   It's awkward seeing my name in the first paragraph as it is, let alone when it's not what I was actually saying, and being incorrect on top of it.  When I mentioned the part about how "they" have scanned Dolores before giving her information it wasn't to make the point that the entity "sounds like a robot"......nor did I confirm anything regarding Dolores sounding like a robot herself when she "channels."    In fact...............................Dolores doesn't channel.   Dolores speaks to these entities through her hypnotized subjects.   So, a gross error there as well.  The only ones "channeling" are the hypnotized subjects, so I'm not sure where this bit of information came from about Dolores supposedly sounding like the robot.  I'm just scratching my head because where could that have come from unless you've seen video of her doing a session.....?    If somebody has an audio/visual of Dolores doing one of her sessions, I'd LOVE to watch it, trust me!   I've been dying to see her sessions to see what it's like.

Now, the reason I mentioned the "scanning" anecdote was to show that there did indeed seem to be some higher density beings coming through the line speaking to Dolores through her subjects, and that it definitely didn't seem to be a hoax.   Somehow though this has been ALL twisted around.   

I'll sign off here, trying not to get too terribly annoyed and frustrated...


(btw....Lipstick Mystic has good points about Dolores' lack of discernment, and about negs coming through the line with her as a result.  She's what I term an "alien's pet", because they dictate her life and literally, tell her what she can and can't do;  as I mentioned in my D. Cannon thread, she's been allowed to promote this material for 30+ years because she tells everybody at these UFO conferences, reiterating the point over and over again, that "NO abductions are bad....They're ALL good........"   And as we know, that's just baloney!  Total bunk.   So yeah, 80/20 seems to be about right in regards to the truth / bunk ratio!  big_smile  )

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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Re: Think About It...

Hi Lyra,

We posted together again at the same time- are we on the same schedule, or what? smile

I'll leave it to Lemniscate to clarify the above post, but please know that MY response was about the fact that Delores is on this intriguing and challenging path where she is meeting with people all over the world who are plugged into a VARIETY of selves and vibrations and entities.....and while many of them, I truly believe, are plugged into a great spiritual vibration, I don't get such a good read off of some of the robotic and mechanized and unemotional entities that some of her clients are in contact with via the subsconsious mind.

When THOSE beings give information and venture into trying to lecture humanity about its growth, its spirit, etc. I find I have to disregard the info because, as Lemniscate hints at above, it seems that the vibrations are not on the same evolutional path as where we woudl like to be as humans. I even have to be somewhat suspect of their versions of "history" because the read seems rather "off" to me, and I find the information questionable.  But much of her other material is intriguing and of good vibration.  It seems to depend on the subject she has hypnotized and the vibrations THEY are plugged into.

So I hope I haven't complicated things by replying to a post that was already a little confusing!

I know I didn't mean to imply that you had said Delores "channeled" anything.....because obviously, it's her clients who are being hypnotized and giving voice to various selves and entities.

Apologies for any confusion!

Lipstick Mystic aka Jennifer

5 (edited by lyra 2006-02-27 13:13:35)

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I added a PS edit to my post, right as you were posting your clarification.

I'm going to pull back at this point.  I clarified Lemniscate's misinterpretation of my D. Cannon thread, and pointed out where he was getting stuff wrong, and added that I do agree with what you're saying.   Not really much else I can say at this point I guess...

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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Re: Think About It...

lyra wrote:

Hi Lemniscate,

I have to comment on the above excerpt only because you seemed to really misunderstand what I was saying in the Dolores Cannon thread, and have flat out gotten some things wrong and are now basing your post on this miscommunication of sorts.   It's awkward seeing my name in the first paragraph as it is

I shall refrain from using your name or referencing your posts in the future, since it appears to invoke angst within you.

BTW, I was referring to a file located at the Luna Helia website on Dolores Cannon when I was commenting on the "scanning", not your post.

Regarding channeling, I believe that if your are within the link of the communique, then you are part of the channeling. It's pointless to get involved with semantics, though.

I didn't realize you are so sensitive about things. Your posting implied that you didn't agree with Dolores on all points, and I was concurring. It appears that the misunderstanding was on your part.

Remember, though, when you revere the dragon, the flames will eventually be turned on you.

Also, if someone has seemed to have mispoke, or misquoted, there is a modicum of decency that should be applied to the situation, especially on this forum. A calm, rational response is always preferable.

Sometimes the flower is missing a petal;
Not for the lack of beauty, but for us to increase ours.

Lemniscate

Magis Amica Veritas

I would rather control myself, than someone else.

en courage (heart)
in spire (spirit)
en thuse (theos)

Re: Think About It...

Lemniscate wrote:

BTW, I was referring to a file located at the Luna Helia website on Dolores Cannon when I was commenting on the "scanning", not [lyra's] post.

Lemniscate, you opened the discussion by saying "I was rereading one of lyra's posts ..."    So I think it's quite understandable why she responded to what was an apparent misunderstanding of her statement.   If you were referring to something else, you did not make that clear.   Anyway I don't see any reason to get personally upset about a correction by her which was made in good faith.   

Keep in mind we are just hours past the new moon.  Remember yourself!     I remember someone on the forum awhile back posted a comment that they always try to speak to others with their own higher self in mind, and address their comments to the higher self of the other individual.  I thought that was really smart, and so I try to do the same when I remember to.   Of course, that's the hard part -- keeping alert and awake to your own self is the real trick.  Even when intellectually you know you should, actually doing so for any extended amount of time is extremely difficult. 

I think this subject is quite relevant to the thread, since the very subjects at hand include "appeals to ego" and whether we're being influenced by forces of a higher or lower nature.  Let's aim for the higher.

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morningsun76 wrote:

I think this subject is quite relevant to the thread, since the very subjects at hand include "appeals to ego" and whether we're being influenced by forces of a higher or lower nature.  Let's aim for the higher.

I know for a fact I could not have said it better.  Yes, "Let's aim for the higher". 

Regards,

Lee

Re: Think About It...

And it is Delores' desire to be a "journalist" that I think gets her in trouble. She's obviously an enlightened and lovely person who sincerely desires to do good. But she's allowing just ANY OLD ENTITY to come in the door when she works with people.

So some of the information is high quality, other parts of it are really quite dangerous and deceptive.

I agree.  It's been years since I've read her books, but I remember feeling like there was so much to wade through to get to the helpful, higher vibrational stuff.  I would tend to think it was more 20% higher vibration and 80% not.  I felt like a lot of it was sort of stream of subconsciousness stuff that lacked a higher perspective, and the 20% or so was what came through from the subjects' superconsciousness or Higher Self.