1 Topic by Ayahuasca (edited by Ayahuasca 2006-02-27 08:21:25)

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Topic: Amitakh Stanford

Fairly recently I started reading the articles of Amitakh Stanford on her www.xeeatwelve.com website.

I thought I'd mention it because I'm seeing some of her teachings crop up more and more lately. I take it from some of Zarg's recent comments in his Prison Planet thread that he also subscribes to many of her views and is familiar with her writings.

Anyway, i've read about three quarters of her articles so far and some of it is interesting, some of it resonates, and some of it is just flat-out loopy.

She writes a lot about the different reptillian factions and goes into a lot of detail about their wars and what they're doing, even providing the names of their leaders, although she never states where she gets all this information from.

She keeps saying things like "I know all this sounds like science fiction, but it's the way things are" Well personally I don't care if something sounds like science fiction if you could just say where you're getting the information from or how you know all this stuff.

Anyway, that's beside my point.

I'd just like to expand on her overall worldview and see what other people think because some of it flatly contradicts some of the key concepts that many of us in Noble Realms take for granted.

She has a very gnostic worldview. According to her we're trapped in what is essentially an evil universe created in error by evil demiurge's who rebelled against the true creator (or Divine Mother) and created their own false creation. She usually refers to this creation as the Virtual Reality Matrix. You can read an overview of this here http://www.xeeatwelve.com/articles/eigh … minds.html

She also says that there are basically two types of beings in our universe. There's what she calls True-Light Beings who belong to the true creator and for whatever reason have become trapped in this reality by the evil demiurges.

Then there are False-Light beings which are the creations of the demiurges and which I think is essentially her term for what we would call organic portals and perhaps other STS beings.

According to Amitakh there is currently a rescue mission in progress to rescue as many of the True-Light souls as possible and take them home to the original creation where this is no darkness or evil.

Apparantly this rescue mission is almost complete and once all the True-Light souls have been rescued the Virtual Reality Matrix will be destroyed and so will the Demiurges because the True God/Creator (or Mother) plans to cut them off from receiving any kind of sustenance. Thus putting a complete end to all evil within the universe, so all the True-Light souls can finally live happily ever after!

Now all this pretty much contradicts some of Montalk's key concepts which state that 'good' and 'evil' are necessary forces in the universe. Ie:

    *  good and evil are subjective and relative, but positive and negative are objective and absolute

    * proper balance between good and evil forces results in positivity

    * too much good leads to stagnation, too much evil leads to total destruction, which is negativity

    * balance is maintained by having both in proper ratio and diametric opposition

Amitakh seems to reject these ideas and says that evil only exists within our universe which is an evil false-light creation. Outside of the virtual reality matrix is the universe of the true creator which is entirely positive.

She also rejects the idea of True-Light soul advancement through the densities. She doesn't reject the reality of higher dimensions or densities, but she says these are just higher levels of the false-light virutal reality matrix and even though they may appear to be positive, they are still evil!

Interesting stuff indeed, and essentially the same thing as what David icke is saying in his last book "Infinite Love is the only truth...". Icke too rejects the idea that we need to progress through densities as part an essential evolution of our souls.

Anyway, here are a few excerpts from a couple of her articles:

On dimensions:

Amitakh wrote:

Everyone on Earth is affected in various degrees by the monetary prison imposed upon them. All monetary prisons - like all the other prisons imposed by Darkness - will crumble when all the invisible, symmetrical solid prisons holding the True-Light beings and those holding the False-Light beings are fractured in this so-call third dimension.

Many loosely use the term "third dimension", which is a very confusing misnomer. The term itself implies that there is a progression of dimensions from the first to the second, third and onwards. Some esoteric movements have promoted misinformation about an upcoming shift to the fourth dimension, with many of the "gurus" taking the misinformation even further by claiming that there will be a jump directly to the fifth, sixth, seventh or whatever dimension.

In reality, the concept of a "dimension" is a highly esoteric expression that very few people on Earth would normally contemplate or take seriously, let alone comprehend. A "dimension" can be a vast, independent existence or part of a very complex existence.

Time exists in the Mind of the Usurper; It delegates authority over time to certain Archons. A particular time circuit is a field of operation of the mind of a particular being of the Dark hierarchy that creates its own type of space, and within that space all thought forms manifest as things. Within chronological time exist all dimensions in the False Creation, with each dimension operating on its own vibrational rate. It is commonly believed among esoteric circles that the higher the vibrational rate of the dimension, the finer and less dense it is. Likewise, it is believed that the lower vibrational

dimensions have coarser vibrations across the spectrum of existence in those dimensions. Superficially, this appears to be true. However, on very close circumspection, things are not what they appear to be, as will be shown later. In the lowest of the coarser dimensions, conditions are so bad that even the administrators of the Dark hierarchy are nervous about going down to them. In the past, when things got out of control in one of these coarser dimensions, Darkness simply destroyed the dimension with everything inside it.

Some people believe that dimensions are like spheres existing according to higher or lower vibrations. They believe that the higher the sphere, the finer the vibrations within that sphere.

They also believe that the lower the sphere, the coarser the vibrations operating within the sphere. In fact, all dimensions appear to be spheres, which are the apparent shapes of the spinning traps (prisons - cubes, tetrahedrons, spheres etc.) housing various dimensions. The higher vibrational dimensions in this Virtual Reality are akin to low-security prisons and the lower vibrational dimensions are more like moderate to high-security prisons. When beings reach the so-called finest levels, the traps are removed entirely, however, certain restrictions still apply to the top administrative levels.

On Earth, many so-called spiritual teachings expound that the spiritual vehicle must be purified sufficiently before one can enter the higher dimensions of the Light according to one's spiritual advancement. But, this is really a false promise because there is no access to the True Light in this entire Virtual Reality. Darkness has sealed off the whole Virtual Reality with an invisible, giant symmetrical "prison" which contains prisons within prisons. Only the Rescuers of the Light have been able to get in and out of this Virtual Reality.

The higher one moves on this pseudo-spiritual system, the more programmed they become, until they can eventually graduate to become an obedient administrator for Darkness, which is why they get their invisible symmetrical prison removed. Hence, the higher one proceeds on the spiritual ladder of Darkness (which is falsely presented as the ladder of progression of Light) the more evil and well hidden one becomes. In other words, the so-called finer vibrational dimensions in this False Creation are still evil, but the evil is more complex and hidden. It is in these so-called finer dimensions that evil is most sophisticated and dangerous. Thus the evil ones in the so-called finer vibrational dimensions of this Virtual Reality are comparable to white-collar criminals, while the administrators in the coarser dimensions are more like blue-collar criminals. The higher one goes on the Dark ladder the more they are able to veil their evilness and hide it from those below them. This becomes very dangerous to those who are sincerely seeking Truth. Many of the so-called Ascended Masters are really masters of this category, but many sincere seekers of Truth have been deceived by these beings.

http://www.xeeatwelve.com/articles/virtual_reality.html

On Karma:

Amitakh wrote:

Here on the physical plane, the evil lords of Karma, through their so-called laws of "cause and effect" have caused much pain, suffering, fear and confusion.  Karma was never dispensed justly.  People are not aware that there is such a thing called astral karma as well as karma in this physical world.

Karma is evil.

Even in the astral world, one is subjected to the astral "laws" of karma.  Astral beings are forced to re-incarnate again and again for reasons that are based upon lies.  In the astral, one is forced or coaxed into believing that one has to do this or that in order to rid oneself of astral debts in order to attain liberation from the astral rebirths.

If this is true, one has the horrible task of ridding oneself of the unjust karma.  It is unjust because, contrary to its claim, karma is not administered fairly, even though its main claim is that "you reap what you sow."  This is not always true.  Karma is carried out in such a way as to make sure the true beings are always being disadvantaged.

There are, however, some loopholes and means of bypassing or modifying karma, but few know of these or are capable of using them.  Unless there is some special intervention by those who can avoid karma, astral beings are stuck in the endless and pointless cycle of birth and re-birth.  This perpetual cycle forces being to move from the astral to the physical and back again, endlessly.  Whether a being is in the physical or in the astral, that being is incurring karmic debts.  These debts are impossible to repay under the evil system.  Trying to pay off physical and astral debts is like attempting to pay off a perpetual mortgage for the soul.  The evil lords of Karma extract such high interest that nobody can pay off his/her debts...

...The reason is that karma is evil and capricious.  It favours some and abuses others.  Such an unjust and horrendous plan can only be the creation of a very sick and very evil god.  It is very obvious that the war between Good and Evil is also being waged in the astral world.  The chaos exists in this physical dimension also exists in the astral and to a much higher degree...

...The karma operating in the astral world forces "souls" to reincarnate.  The astral inhabitants are programmed to think that they have the choice of selecting their own parents, place, time and culture of birth.  This is in appearance only.  In truth, they are programmed to think that all is planned for the highest good of the "soul".  What a big lie!

http://www.xeeatwelve.com/articles/spirit_world.htm

Anyway, I just thought I'd toss this out there and see how people react to it because I know a lot of people (including myself I guess) believe that karma is a natural force of the universe, and that negativity is an essential force to balance positivity.

I'd be interested if anyone knows who this Amitakh Stanford really is, and how she has such indepth knowledge of how the reptilians operate. Apparantly Satan is a reptilian and she's had a few battles with him http://www.xeeatwelve.com/articles/sata … stand.html

As I said, some of it is completely nuts, but there's also a lot that is very analogous to what Stuart Wilde writes about, and also David Icke so I can't dismiss it. A lot of what Stuart writes about sounds pretty crazy at times!

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2 Reply by tenetnosce (edited by tenetnosce 2006-02-27 09:35:42)

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Re: Amitakh Stanford

There is one set of questions at the back of my mind whenever I come across this kind of cosmology.

How did the Demiurge / False Creator god get created in the first place? How did it get to so powerful as to create sn entire "false" universe? How did it entrap all the "true light" souls into its false universe?  Why is it so difficult for the "true" creator God to restore things to their proper place? 

I mean, if the false god can wipe out a "dimension" with a blink of an eye, then why doesn't the true God just wipe out the false God?

What also doesn't sit right about these ideas is the underlying concept that all spiritual growth is fake, and just gets you deeper and deeper into evil.  Oh, I see.  I can become more evil, but I cannot become more good?  Or perhaps I should just turn the tables and run around the planet shooting everybody, because that would be the opposite of what I think would be spiritual growth.

The problem with this type of thinking is that it is ultimately disempowering.  We are poor helpless souls that were tricked into coming to a "false" universe by a being who is more powerful than we could ever hope to become.  We are absolutely powerless to do anything about our situation, and in fact, the more we attempt to extricate ourselves, the more harm we are causing.  All we can do is sit around and wait to be rescued by some other being who is more powerful than we could ever hope to become, if they ever get around to it, because it's clearly not a priority.

Victimization.  Disempowerment.  Hopelessness. 

If that's what the "true" universe has to offer me, perhaps I'd rather stay here.

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A funny thing – as I go to reply to this thread, the forum seems to have fallen down.  So I will write this now and post it a little later.

There are a lot of these Stories out there, and from what I see, it appears to be a growing trend to follow one or more of them.  Many of them seem to sprinkle a mixture of truth in with a mixture of fantasy.

By “truth"  I mean that which it is possible to intuit, discern or experience for ones self in one way or another.  The method of seeing / experiencing such a truth isn’t necessarily relevant – what’s important is that we as individuals are able to see it for ourselves.  For example it is easy to see, understand and accept there is indeed a Matrix.  Of course what that Matrix is about is subjective and open to interpretation.

Generally these Stories seem to follow a generally linear structure.  They often talk about the creation of one or more aspects of our reality.  And they generally have humans as a central focus (a little too anthropomorphic no?)  These are the aspects of the Stories – which to me – feel like fantasy.  They are entirely non-verifiable, and come from a limited number of sources upon which we have to rely to “learn".  In essence these sources or people are the storytellers, the teachers or the priests.

Most religions follow a very similar structure.  A core truth which is verifiable by ones own experience, surrounded by a linear historical story and often a rich mythology.

I want to be clear here though – I am not saying that these stories, myths and legends have no truth to them, because many of them no doubt do.  However I do question their use to us beyond entertainment (or “bait" , “hook-in" ) value.

So in short I personally feel it is wise to be very cautious of any of these Stories.  It is all too easy to be hooked in by the core-truth.  Many of us have experienced various non-normal aspects of our reality.  And a lot of us have awareness in regards to the nature of our consciousness.  But there are no easy answers – the temptation is to believe these Stories may be able to provide some.

Let me pose a question.  If this Universe was indeed created accidentally and is full of evil; what difference does that make to the here and now?  Does it in any way affect our inner being?  Of course it doesn’t.  All it does is provide food for our intellect to toy with.

And this is where there is a vast difference between Stuart Wilde’s material, and many of these other Stories.  Stuart Wilde discusses inner worlds.  He often relates many of the experiences he has had – but any and all of these could be taken metaphorically, and even still they would provide a great teaching.  Stuart understands much about the nature of what we are and where we are going, and his focus is always on that.  It is an inward focus.

Think about it – how else can we learn about our own nature other than by looking within?

Nearly every one of these fantastical Stories I have came across, always has an external focus.  Alien beings, mysterious invisible planets, reptiles, angles, beings-of-light, strange bird-men from planet Y.  And always without fail a threat that is undoubtedly external to us.

Now whilst many of these things may well exist – what worth are they to us that we should pin our very existence onto them?  Sure – there are many things in our reality that we should learn about.  And indeed many of those things have a direct or indirect affect upon us.  But these Stories we talk about here have no interest in helping us climb out of the system in order to become independent spiritually and physically.  Very little of their content is of much use; indeed I would go as far to say that a vast majority of it has Matrix like qualities; just another system to trap us in.

We can seek and learn both internally and externally, and learn to liberate ourselves.  There is one hell of a lot of information out there to assist us in doing this.  What we need to remember is to keep our wits and sense about us.  Use discernment and our own experiences to feel what is right and what is not right.  If a thing resonates with us – then it is more than likely that thing is useful to us.  However that does not mean we have to take the entire surrounding package along with it.  Especially when that surrounding packing is non-verifiable - doesn’t that seem a little dodgy?  Is this not how churches work?

When I read David Icke’s stuff – I feel there is a vital part missing.  He provides so much information and little of it is really cohesive.  Though he really does attempt to string it all together – no matter how tenuously – bless him.  Even so, what he does is infinitely better than the stories people like Amitakh Stanford provide.  You can take Icke’s stuff and work with it.  With Standford’s stuff you really need to go back to – guess who? – Standford, in order to get the next stage in the saga.  Most of these storytellers are just the same; the Zeta’s are another that spring to mind.

Wilde and even Montalk are in a whole different arena – they propel your awareness forward…as opposed to picking it up and trying to carry it in their own chosen direction.

This life is a wondrous journey.  And the inner journey can perhaps be even more wonderful.  I can’t deny that.  But when I see these different Storytellers cropping up again and again – all of which follow a similar basic structure (just like all the hundreds of different 60’s and 70’s sci-fi shows were all alike)…I really do think we need to question why we would feel any pull into such an elaborate work.

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Re: Amitakh Stanford

tenetnosce wrote:

Victimization.  Disempowerment.  Hopelessness. 

If that's what the "true" universe has to offer me, perhaps I'd rather stay here.

Yes, I can't help feeling the same way. I admit there are some days where I just long to live in a place where there is absolutely no evil or negativity and everything is beautiful and good. But then I think, - hang on, wouldn't that get very boring very quickly?'

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Ayahuasca wrote:

Yes, I can't help feeling the same way. I admit there are some days where I just long to live in a place where there is absolutely no evil or negativity and everything is beautiful and good. But then I think, - hang on, wouldn't that get very boring very quickly?'

I don't know though...would it??

I have had that thought before - but now it comes to it - I ask myself "Why would it be boring?"  I can't really answer that.  Can you?

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No, I don't think it would get boring.  It's just that we don't even know what we'd do if nothing was "stopping" us!

7 Reply by whywhywhy (edited by whywhywhy 2006-02-27 10:35:45)

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It makes for a fun reading on a rainny Sunday.

Here is a few things I got from what I read.

1.  She discusses a final soul rescuing and souls being left behind to suffer in a terrible world.  As soon as I read this I see a flag being raised and I am definetely not getting in the rescue spaceship or whatever vehicle is used on the rescue.  Sounds too GREY, too alien!

2. She believes that one divided by zero being infinite to be a hoax, a deception.  I don't recall anybody saying 1/0=infinite.  I remember that the limit of a number "X" divided by a number "Y" as "Y" approaches zero is infinite for lack of better words. 

3. She does not care for negative numbers and think they are useless.  There are many applications on which a negative number is a viable, real solution.  It is all relative to the conditions adopted when setting up the problem.

4. She thinks "imaginary" numbers are a hoax.  Well, in the fields of 3-D fluid dynamics, electromagnetism and others the transformation of the "X-Y" to the "Z" (imaginary) plane simplifies the problem immensely.

5. She is a supporter of the cubic sun theory.  I do not have a lot to say about this theory but there is a high level of resistance going on in my brain.  Yet, I am trying to stay open.

I think that her position on some mathematical concepts is due to the fact she does not understand them and her resistance to the perception that mathematics is an aboslute system.  I cannot help her on her lack of mathematical understanding but on the issue of mathematics absolutism I will have to agree with her.  Mathematics like languages are tools and symbols humans have developed to communicate ideas but they are not abolute.     

Aya-----Yes it would be the heck of a boring place!  And that's what got this whole thing started.  We are the tentacles from which the Creation can be felt and Experienced by the Creator.
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8 Reply by Ayahuasca (edited by Ayahuasca 2006-02-27 10:39:57)

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Re: Amitakh Stanford

Marcus wrote:

I have had that thought before - but now it comes to it - I ask myself "Why would it be boring?"  I can't really answer that.  Can you?

No, I don't suppose I can. I guess I'm approaching this from a very human 3d perspective. I imagine that spending an eternity basking in the glow of infinite love and goodness might get, well a bit samey after awhile! But if there's no such thing as time, then I guess there's no such thing as 'awhile'.

But to me, having good and evil duking it out across the galaxy sounds a bit more interesting than absolutely everything being good and harmonious. Or perhaps I've just watched too much Star Wars! smile

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Ahh but what if a purely positive world was whatever world your imagination came up with.  Your "perfect dream world" as it were.  Who knows - maybe it could work like that too... big_smile

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10 Reply by Auendove (edited by Auendove 2006-02-27 12:47:03)

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Marcus wrote:
Ayahuasca wrote:

Yes, I can't help feeling the same way. I admit there are some days where I just long to live in a place where there is absolutely no evil or negativity and everything is beautiful and good. But then I think, - hang on, wouldn't that get very boring very quickly?'

I don't know though...would it??

I have had that thought before - but now it comes to it - I ask myself "Why would it be boring?"  I can't really answer that.  Can you?

I'm with you on this one, Marcus. I have thought about this plenty. How does one know what living outside of the realm of chaos would be like? Whose to say that existence without chaos would be boring? When I think about living without chaos and negatively imposed intervention I just find myself thinking about unending possibilities for open-ended learning and growth.

Personally, I wouldn't be surprised to find that the whole notion of perfect living conditions being boring is like something akin to a bad, bad rumor started by so-called "controllers" to incite doubt. For those of you who think life would be boring, let me ask you this question--is the idea that life would be boring without at least some level of chaos something you'd before read or was otherwise suggested to you, like in conversation, or was it something you'd garnered under your own powers of discernment (like through meditation/thoughtfulness)? I remember the first time I'd heard this, and even then I felt incredulous...like, "Are you serious?" It didn't help that the person who told me this was chuckling while he told me.

Anyway, Amitakh Stanford. I've not read all of her articles, and really don't want to because her articles are a bit "heavy" for me. If asked to describe her to another, from my perspective I would say she's radical, but as well, confident. That doesn't mean I necessarily would make a personal claim that she's all wrong or right because of those attributes, but I just don't want to go deeper into reading her material. I already know reality sucks, and I really don't want to read about it on a weekly basis.

The one article that was very useful for me, having brought together some loose ends, some that have been flapping in the wind for up to a few years, was this recent one--"The Collapse of the Astral and Physical Systems" found here--

http://www.xeeatwelve.com/articles/coll … stems.html

As it was, I was made aware of this article because a friend emailed the link to me in relation to something we had noticed and had been talking about. I think I've posted a quote or two from her on NR before, as have others, but I've definitely not been a follower of her work. Even so, from my point of view, this article is an interesting and I think right-on read based on some personal intuitions and experiences, or a read at least worth some consideration.

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Re: Amitakh Stanford

Ayahuasca wrote:

Or perhaps I've just watched too much Star Wars! smile

"Too much" Star Wars doesn't even exist tongue

But really, to answer the question of eternal bliss being boring... I'd say nay.  If we're creative beings, we could create any scenerio, even create a "Star Wars" scenerio being a Jedi wink

No way that is boring. LoL

Love definately isn't boring.

But on the other hand, duality creates such a fun ride that we don't want to be anywhere else!  Why else would we be here?

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12 Reply by Ayahuasca (edited by Ayahuasca 2006-02-27 15:13:37)

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Ok, I've been reflecting more on my boring statement, and I realise I'm completely wrong about that. I know that I definitely don't need chaos and negativity in my life to make it more interesting. Nor do I wish to stay in a world that contains chaos and negativity. If anything, that's boring. I've long felt like I'm finished with it.

These days I frequently find myself imagining what life might be like living in a fully STO 4D (or even 3D) world, and it's anything but boring. A few months ago I recommended a book called Original Wisdom in the Walking the Walk forum which describes the authors experience of living with indigenous peoples of the Malaysian rainforests. He describes what is almost certainly the nearest thing we have to a fully STO culture living on this planet right now. People who live in complete peace and harmony with their surroundings and with each other. They don't have a concept of possession. There's no concept of me, mine, yours. They also live a life of almost constant leisure. They don't work or farm and I'm certain they have any concept of boredom either. They also fully understood the concept of oneness and how everything is connected. Compared with our lives, there's is simple to the extreme, yet they are probably the most peaceful, happy and content people you would ever meet. While reading the book I found myself longing to live in world like theirs. Anyway, I strongly recommend getting hold of this book http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/produc … p;n=283155

I guess my main problem with the Stanford material is that I'm having a hard time accepting that we're living in a 'false' universe created by an evil being. I know there's undoubtedly a lot of things in this world that suck. But I also see an incredible amount of goodness and beauty too. The universe to me seems more benevolent than evil. And perhaps I'm wrong, but I sense a strong purpose to my life and to everything that's going on around us right now. It doesn't seem to me that we're being kept prisoners in a fake reality that was created by accident. But who knows, I could be very wrong! All I really know is that I know very little!!

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13 Reply by Risen (edited by Risen 2006-02-27 16:44:52)

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tenetnosce wrote:

There is one set of questions at the back of my mind whenever I come across this kind of cosmology.

How did the Demiurge / False Creator god get created in the first place? How did it get to so powerful as to create sn entire "false" universe? How did it entrap all the "true light" souls into its false universe?  Why is it so difficult for the "true" creator God to restore things to their proper place? 

I mean, if the false god can wipe out a "dimension" with a blink of an eye, then why doesn't the true God just wipe out the false God?

Like you, this is always on my mind as well.  And I've come to one (at least, temporary) conclusion:

First, as background, I do think there is an "ultimate" light, creator or God, who is infinitely more powerful than darkness.  Second, I know from experience there are also powerful forces of evil or darkness, destruction.

And after pondering all the "how" and "why" of the matter, the one conclusion that I keep coming back to is:  This is all being *allowed* to happen, either to teach us a lesson, to teach the forces of darkness a lesson, or both.  One possibility is the Creator is attempting to save some (or all) of us -- perhaps exposure to darkness helps refine us.  Another possibility is that the Creator is attempting to save not only some of us, but some of the forces of darkness also. 

This leads one to the thought that the Creator must have known what the forces of Darkness would be like before he ever created them.  Therefore I think its also possible he could still be merciful to them and save at least some of them.

I mean, we humans breed some pretty mean dogs.  Is it the dogs' fault?

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Only the wicked survive
Bake up a batch of the Yellow Cake
Bake up a batch of the lies
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14 Reply by Zarg (edited by Zarg 2006-02-27 18:07:18)

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Re: Amitakh Stanford

Ayahuasca, I like your approach and basically what you said, and when I saw the post title, and since I know something about Amitakh, I felt I might be able to add something… I know who/what she is and ‘followed’ her for a few years and then lost track after the David Booth fiasco (Art Bell, Rense, etc all carried him for a while). He was a follower of hers, as well as meeting with Sister Lucia (3rd Fatima Prophecy fame), and it just got convoluted and nutty at points. He was largely discredited.  Maybe I can clarify a few things.

First, my post ‘Prison Planet’ was posted here and a reader emailed me and referred me to his website and hers – my info (as posted) comes from a different source. Yes, it was interesting that I had some points in common with what she promotes… I didn’t copy her, however (and I know no one has suggested that). I have points in common with the one who was known on another forum as the Insider and yet that person has some disinfo in his lengthy info of last Fall. I also have points in common with one who called himself Kangaax on a 3rd forum (2-3 years ago). But my info does not come from any of those sources. (And I keep it high level on purpose.)

I do differ from Amitakh in that the Virtual Reality matrix I see is earth-bound – not a feature of our extant universe. We are victims of a dumbing-down via DNA manipulation, life-span shortening, and the Grid which I have yet to mention which is sustained/fueled by the OPs and off-planet technology. There is a reason people cannot accept truth – besides the more obvious ‘cognitive dissonance’ issue. People can be entrained by ELF (extremely low frequency) waves that can, but don’t always, carry a ‘message’ that one ‘hears’ in the brain. They can entrain you to alpha cycles so you ‘space out.’ The technology is very advanced, and it gets me at times, too, and I know better. In some cases, with under-developed souls, they can use straight mind-to-mind influence/control: their thoughts/will overpowering yours.  This is partly why I called earth a prison.

I also differ with her on karma and reincarnation. Karma is payback and she sees it as an evil structure that (due to our ignorance) we can never do everything perfectly and so create ‘karma’ that has to be paid back and hence keeps the game going here on earth: screw up, reincarnate. Screw up, reincarnate. She’s right: that isn’t true karma. That is manipulation…. you die, you don’t know the Light, you get to come back – and ‘karma’ is the excuse. New Agers are buying it! And it isn’t even a law or construct that we ‘violate’ – it is merely the whim of the Lizzies. How? There is only one way off this planet and herein come some insights from the world of NDE – when you die, you either go thru a ‘tunnel’ that protects you from those who would keep you here and you come out the top end in the Light… Or, you get ‘recycled’. Ugly but true. That is why earth is a prison. That is all she’s saying between the lines.

What you should be asking is why do some get the tunnel and some don’t? 
What would you say if I said that Jesus was/is real and he came here not to die for our sins, but to set an archtype, a path, a ‘way’ off this planet? That’s why he said 'I am the way, the truth and the life.'  'I am the Light of the world.' For this he was killed. He dared to mess with the Lizzie agenda. Wake people up.

No, I am not a Christian, nor am I a New Ager (both are paradigms that spawn their own matrices). He didn’t say that no one comes to the Father except thru him; what he said was that you can break the stupid wheel of death and rebirth (into the same thread by the way) by ‘following’ him… which means Do What He Did.  As the path, the way, the archtype which is the Light. Focus on the Light, choose the Light as the ‘lord’ of your life and you’re out.  Stay attached to the worldly things and you stay in – your choice. And you even have a choice of what matrix you play in: Christianity, Buddhism, Catholicism, atheism, true seeker, etc…  The enemy doesn’t want anyone to know they have a choice. And that your choice governs your reality.

I digress. Amitakh has a lot of truth and perceives the world thru her filters because she sees more than we do, intuits more than we do – it is hard to live in 3D and stay anchored when your spirit/soul is more advanced. And yet I cannot totally support all that she says, either, because I give her the benefit of the doubt – I’m not where she is... I do not agree with the cubed Sun idea either because I don’t know what she is really describing… my gut tells me it’s not 3D. And I have a problem with her Hollow Earth idea, too… but I put that on the shelf… there is evidence for it, but I don’t like it personally and can’t convince myself to RV it… the underground caverns, bases are enough right now. And it doesn’t change the battle for our souls any.

There is a 'rescue mission' as I have been told, but it is up to each one of us to choose it and work with it; know yourself and why you are here. (Insider was right on that.) You will rescue yourself by working with the Light to resonate and shift timelines when the time is right. On a one-by-one basis, as it has always been.

I agree, David Icke, whom I have met (spent a whole day with him and Mr. Green) is an interesting guy, but he has gone off the cliff with partial info – he doesn’t deeply study something and then form an opinion. In the case of Jesus (in his book the Greatest Secret) he throws the baby out with the bathwater… and believes that the Pisos wrote the whole NT. Made it up. The RCC did do a lot of that. But the reptiles do not spend a lot of time shape-shifting – he was fed that, bought it, and wrote it. Don’t forget, this is a planet of deception and manipulation.

It is very easy to feed a human being partial truth and then convince him/her that s/he is here to save others. (A trap that will keep you here – IF you spread what is not true.)

I’m getting ahead of myself, but it is fitting to state here that to the extent that people believe the wrong thing(s), to that extent can they be manipulated, and their energy will then resonate with the low, base energy of this world -- and keep them here. Montalk points out that free will relates to the amount of knowledge (true knowledge) people have – ‘knowledge protects’ because when you know what’s going on, who’s doing it, why and how, it is very hard to manipulate you. 'The truth will set you free.'  AND, true knowledge carries Light, in fact Light is information/knowledge. The more knowledge you have, the more Light you have, the more your DNA ‘rewires’ to accommodate the Light, even strengthening your aura, changing its base color, opening the charkas, and that in turn opens the 3rd eye and crown chakra… you can become an adept. And you move from 2-strand DNA to 3, 4 or more, and that is reflected in your personal ‘power’, your will. The human being is a fantastic creation (the Lizzies are jealous – they don’t have a spiritual component) and to fulfill one’s true (spiritual) potential, is what the Lizzies want to stop – they don’t want 50,000 or more Jesuses walking around the planet. But that is our birthright. Hence deception, decay, destruction, disinformation – that is why this matrix is earth-bound. Hence the Prison Planet.

One problem with reading Amitakh. She sees on different levels and writes the same way – I have recently printed off some of her articles and as I sat in Borders with my Mocha Freeze, reading some of them, I felt a definite pull/entrainment from one level of mind to another. Got a headache from that. From the subtle to the concrete, to the wispy astral and back to the subtle. Sheesh. She cannot be read just on one level.

Amitakh is a very spiritual woman, a female ‘shaman’ (no disrespect), who lives in Australia. She looks oriental but is not. She also looks much younger than she is.  She is part of the Attas group and anchors the Light in that part of the world. (Beware: some of her articles have been hacked on her website… read them with caution.)

I think you guys are so great to be questioning these issues and pushing the envelope. More power to you!

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Re: Amitakh Stanford

Zarg--u got it goin on.  u r prolific, i love and agree with ur thinking, concepts, constructs.  couldn't agree more.  same conclusions.  we have a very base planet here.  it is BASE.  it is designed that way.   purposefully.  not tellin u anything u don't know.  yes/yet, for some to realize, there are cosmic/universal laws, ie...the laws of attraction, allowance, etc,. no matter what happens or who or what, or whom is believed, these ring true, they are unwavering, they rule, they are cosmic.  i love it when people say "they don't believe this, they don't believe that..."  it 's sorta inconsequential, cosmic/karmic laws apply throught-out the universe.  structures are set up, fall, change, etc.. in accordance.  the uninitiated or novice reader forgets this or just doesn't know it.  all this fits in with Tenentnosce's recent writings--which were, like yours TERRIFIC and certainly right on.  Lyssa Royal, and others, say some of the same, i've read similar channeled info, i've seen and experienced, and just KNOW of the same.   been studying material from ALL sources and tying ends together, scrutinizing, analyzing, since age 6.  are u an RV'er?  fascinating, takes quite a warrior i think.

i think there are quite a few around here.  i've trained all my life to be one, was probably born one.  a conclusion that could be stated from what LipstickMystic was explaining in her latest post.  also agree with her findings, experiences.  Light Warriors.  i know i am off on my own tangent here.  done alot of reading over the years.  some fabulous esoteric and nonesoteric works say all of this.   u, LipstickMystic, RonD, Montalk, Tenetnosce, and more--all r accurate and cohesive.

really good explanation/description of Amitakh, Icke.  don't agree with her cube theory, loses me but sorta reminds me a little of those weird "Cube" horror movies.  i thinbk there's 3 of them.  last one i saw by accident last wk, had an alien presence moving the cubes, in an experiment.  and funny, been reading her for awhile now, i come and go on her stuff, but totally pictured her EXACTLY the way u described.  wow. 

Thanks to u and those i mentioned, excellent posts.  I love this place.  come almost everyday, and am catching up today.    just waiting and watching EVERYDAY.  really wanna get this spiritual war/show going down the road faster, tired of hanging around on this base planet.  kinda left awhile ago but hangin' and waitin' in 3D, one part, to fight the fight.  knowledge protects.  thanks again--all of u.  good readin', sage and wise people in the true sense(s) of the words. 

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