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Topic: Donnie Darko - The Directors Cut

I recently aqquired a free copy of donnie darko the directors cut, when i first saw this dvd, it wasnt the directors cut and well, it spurred some interest in me, i dont know things felt "right"

Anyway, so i studied, the hyperspace, the dimensions, the matrix (i wish id found montalk.net sooner, woulda saved some time).

Anyway, The things in the directors cut, i find disturbingly real. The mention of the manipulated living doing anything to save themselves from oblivion. And the mention of deus ex machina, the savior.

If you havent seen the film i would recommend it. But id have to say after many years of research i find these simple conclusions to be appropriate.

2012 - something big is going to happen.
        - the matrix is real
        - god exists
        - we are being severely misled.


I had a thought that the illuminati, the NWO is promoting all the negativity so when 2012 happens, as many as possible of us will go to the negative 4d realm. Because of course that would increase the amount of energy/workers availiable in the 4d and make it easier to escape oblivion or indeed the 4d realm (perhaps the lack of positive energy, used for creation, is what limits them to such a realm?)

Something big is going to happen.. i feel it, and i know you all do too.

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Re: Donnie Darko - The Directors Cut

Great movie, but I haven't seen the director's cut yet...
  This is another of those movies with far more to it than meets the eye (although there is still alot to it that does manage to meet the eye anyway)...
I found The Butterfly Effect's ending to have a similar theme, that of noble self-sacrifice. Both characters are ultimately good, albeit confused, young men who have a load of bad happenings come their way.
One thing that always played on my mind after seeing DD was <spoilers follow> : after had travelled back to the night when the plane engine crashed through his room, did everyone else retain their memories? Did Gretchen recognise her mother, and simply pretend not to have know Donnie? And what about Patrick Swayze's character? Since time had been "wound back", I'm assuming his pedophiliac tendencies had not been uncovered... But if everyone's memory is still intact I guess it does not matter.

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Re: Donnie Darko - The Directors Cut

You have to see the directors cut for the explanation of why everybody wakes up at the end, you see its to do with the conjoining of the two dimensions, which causes a black hole, then, donnie is given a choice to go back and change it all and sacrifice himself, or to not, its an insurance policy set up by the 4d apparition (frank).

The people who woke up, woke up because after the whole time winding back, some of them remember the "journey" back in time, and it appears to them, en-mass, in haunting dreams. You really need to see the directors cut, it reveals SO MUCH more and you get a good sense of what the film is about.

4d apparition manipulating donnie. smile its cool.

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Re: Donnie Darko - The Directors Cut

Cool thanks, I'll keep an eye out for it. I bought the soundtrack a few years back, brilliant stuff. My copy of the disk has an extra track than is listed, but it's just a repeat of "Mad World". Does that make it more valuable?

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Just a couple nights ago I had a dream that paralleled that movie. 

I was shown a giant vortex in the ocean which rose up out of the water like a volcano. A ship flew into it... then a tree... then boulder, mountains, the sky itself... and finally it swallowed the earth itself. Then I saw the entire galaxy creak and moan like a giant millstone becoming unhinged. It folded up into itself and also got sucked down this black hole of a vortex. For a while there was only silence and darkness... then suddenly these Omega symbols making an OMMMM sound flew out of the black hole and somehow rewound time, reconstituting the past.

The message conveyed in the dream is that our current reality is some reconstituted version of a former timeline that met its end via some singularity / vortex / black hole. I never read the book "The Omega Point" but from what I skimmed of it, the concept was similar. Strange dream.

But in Donnie Darko, from what I understand the wormhole spawned an alternate timeline which the universe had to fix by completing the chain of cause and effect between alternate and original timeline. It does this through synchronicity, dreams, and the mysterious character (Frank the Bunny) who acts as a personification of this restorative force of the universe. Ever see Twelve Monkeys? When the character played by Bruce Willis was caught up in the isolation room, he heard a voice directing him what to do. This voice I think is essentially the same, archetypally, as Frank the Bunny... some type of character animated out of necessity to help get things going. Like the white rabbit in Matrix or Alice in Wonderland.

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Its kind of weird though, because frank is the manipulator, the whole image of steven kings IT, (the book shes reading in the beggining of the movie), and also the thing about an insurance policy kept by the dead to make sure the hero would either choose or die.

Steven kings it is just the same though, 4d manipulation, in other words.. its as though frank was a manifestation of donnies own freewill, donnies shadow as it were. Frank led him to the edge of his sanity forcing him to make the right decision in the end, in which case, the universe destroyed itself and "Reset" eliminating donnie from the picture so the timeline can carry on la-di-da, no hitches, nobody is any the aware.

The reference from dr.monatoph, "did you ever stop to consider that infants need darkness, that, darkness is a part of their natural development", Ive been reading up on Gods Gladiators "thanks spartan!" anyway, and basically it would appear that frank is a 4d negative apparrition, just like IT, but of course, the dark is essentially on the side of the light. So just as in IT, they each had to confront their own fears, as did donnie.

I mean how would you react to a giant blackhole appearing in the sky knowing for certain that the world was going to end?, what would you do if some creature tormented you and provoked you, feeding off of your fear?, the only answer is to not be afraid (as is the same in donnie darko with the lifeline mention).

And as is the same on your website Montalk, with the quote

"in order to leap the highest, you have to crouch the lowest", perhaps this quote could be seen as humility, humbleness, but i disagree.

I think this quote is basically saying there is no light without darkness, you have to confront your own fears and ego before you can transcend, if some bloody evil skeleton monster walked through your wall in the middle of the night and proceeded to try and destroy you, you would be shit scared. Succumbing to Fear.

Darkness is a part of our natural development, it makes sense as god is both positive and negative. Until you fully grasp the negative, how can you understand the positive, How can you be neutral?.

Also, people who take the drug DMT (ayusha or however its spelt, im tired), go through similar experience, in which they go through a period of absolute despair and anguish that, you simply cant put into words.

And this makes entire sense to me, id thought of it before.

If the 4d realm is free of linear space time, and your thoughts are powerful tools of creation, surely if your scared you would create only fear, and thus your own personal hell. You need to evolve PAST fear, so that when your in the 4d, you can better use your tools of creation.

These things come naturally to me, i listen to my intuition most of the time.

Anywho! smile Yes Donnie Darko - the directors cut, kickass movie, i liked the flashes into the future.. But i think that destiny in this world is unique to each of us, and we all must fulfil our own spiritual journey, alone.

Anywhos.

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Re: Donnie Darko - The Directors Cut

The one I saw was not the director's cut.  I was actually advised *not* to see the directors cut if I liked the original, because ... as he said, "the explanations, well... SUCK" ;-)

Sounds like he may have been wrong though.  Still not sure whether I'll watch the DC or not.

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I've seen a similar votrex, tho in my case it was a bit... different.

I've been writing a book about spiritual things for a while now ( i got 29 pages done. Wohoo for me). And i was having a dream where i was talking with my lawyer and going down/up these escalators and up until this point the dream had been normal and "pleasant" and then when i mentioned to him "hey, did you know i was writing a book" then all of a sudden when i'm on top of the stairs the escalators turns into a sort of metally tube, and tries to constantly poke me in the face, i push it away with my hands and hide under a table. Which was rather strange. And then i wake up and i'm royally sweating, and the pillows and sheets and everything are covered in sweat and i feel "thin and off balance" and i have dificulty meditating, after a while it calms down and i get back to sleep. But it did look quite a bit alike the vortex in the movie.